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LOL @ Lithuania! Men in black back! :lol: :bye:
This kinda confidence can only bring bad luck on you ;)
LMAO@Lithuania!
No they're not. :p
Ok.. Well, Lithuania beats them all.. What the f*ck is this? This definately beats them all - for the loser award :rolleyes:
Oh myyyy...that dance is like the famous dance from "The Office"! :lol:
spyretto
18-05-2006, 21:23
Eurovision needs to DIE
I'm pretty much convinced tonight.
Oh wait, Portugal just saved the day with those great outfits!
Waterloo rip-off. Hehehe. Tonight we're gonna party like it's 1974.
Portugal can't sing even if they are trying so hard with their "Waterloo". Byeee :bye:
Exactly what I was thinking.. I'm sure they had a better chance of succeeding if they just ripped all of Waterloo..
Portugal is like ABBA vs. Spice girls after reactivation :p
At least Portugal had a hot performer! That girl with spikey red hair! :eek:
spyretto
18-05-2006, 21:29
Sweden's got the best song so far. They should get top 3 at least.
Sweden's the best so far.. But it was easy to beat everyone else that was on earlier tonight, but Kate Ryan..
Ah well, they won't win anyway :p
Sweden is through, like it or not.
Sweden's the best so far.How?! :ill:
She makes me want to strangle her! :bum:
spyretto
18-05-2006, 21:32
How?! :ill:
She makes me want to strangle her! :bum:
She's favourite in the odds to win and lots of people like it, that's why. Wanna bet? ;)
How?! :ill:
She makes me want to strangle her! :bum:
Have you seen anyone better tonight? I sure haven't.. Ok, maybe Kate Ryan, but I had heard that song before..
Sweden is through, like it or not.
Well, in that case.. That much cockiness should be cooled with a bucket of icewater.. Down with Sweden!! :p j/k
Estonia! WTF? They stole "Does Your Mother Know" riff from ABBA? :eek:
spyretto
18-05-2006, 21:34
^ Have you seen anyone better tonight? I sure haven't.. Ok, maybe Kate Ryan, but I had heard that song before..
Well, in that case.. That much cockiness should be cooled with a bucket of icewater.. Down with Sweden!! :p j/k
Sweden will most likely win ESC this year, so better get used to it.
Estonia should be through also
They stole "Does Your Mother Know" riff from ABBA?
Yep and the singer is Swedish.
Estonia should be through. It's neutral and the performance is confident.
Props to Estonia for finding a young version of Agnetha.. Down to the outfit..
So many ABBA references this year :laugh:
Wanna bet? ;)Nope :no: Coz so many people have bad taste in music and like the drag queen.
Have you seen anyone better tonight? I sure haven't.. Ok, maybe Kate Ryan, but I had heard that song before.I think they're all bad. :bum:
I'm probably gonna be the only one who finds Bosnia's entry boring, right? :p
Bosnia is through too. Such staff always gets into top 10 even at the final.
That guy gives me the creeps :rolleyes:
spyretto
18-05-2006, 21:38
Bosnia is awesome.
So 3 good songs so far, Finland, Sweden, Bosnia Herzegovina.
Iceland - go home. Byeeee :bye:
The most dreaded performance of the night. :p
God help Iceland. LOL
LMAO.. Everybody's booing Iceland :laugh:
I heard the Dutch voice over say she's a spoiled bitch? Ah well, she deserves to lose royally then :rolleyes: Not to mention - the song is almost as crappy as Lithuania's :rolleyes:
spyretto
18-05-2006, 21:42
What's the point of Iceland sending THAT again?
She wasn't booed about the performance but some joke she made about the Greeks saying they are"f*** lazy"...as if it isn't true, lol.
I'm not wasting my money on voting :rolleyes:
I am insane, I capped everything. LOL Anyone (other than fanoff as he pmed me about it already) want any of the performances?
Iceland was so hilarious. :gigi:
spyretto
18-05-2006, 21:45
I'm not wasting my money on voting :rolleyes:
Yeah, good thinking.
spyretto
18-05-2006, 21:46
I think Bulgaria deserves to go through for the performance only. And also Finland, Sweden, Bosnia/Herzegovina should qualify easily.
Maybe Estonia can make it too. Hopefully Belgium though the performance was too weak.
InviCHIble..hihi......for my taste , Carola is the Best until now....even if I like my little Turkish Girl..:lalala: ...and the Romantic Russian Gymnast...:lady: + Belgium ...and Finland ..original..+ Greece of course
My 9 finalists:
Slovenia
Belarus
Belgium
Macedonia
Russia
Ukraine
Sweden
Bosnia-H
Estonia
I have no idea who's going to be the 10th.
I am insane, I capped everything. LOL Anyone (other than fanoff as he pmed me about it already) want any of the performances?
Do you have last year's Shiri Maimon :laugh:
spyretto
18-05-2006, 21:49
My 9 finalists:
Slovenia
Belarus
Belgium
Macedonia
Russia
Ukraine
Sweden
Bosnia-H
Estonia
I have no idea who's going to be the 10th.
Finland.
My pick: Bulgaria, Belgium ,Cyprus Form... blah... Macedonia :p, Finland, Poland, , Russia, Turkey, Ukraine, Estonia, Bosnia (following the tradition of all ex Yugo republics qualifying EXCEPT Slovenia. :p) ...
And a permanent ban for Iceland...
Edit: Ops.. I've put down one too many... scrap Estonia from the pack.
Dutch people are such hypocrites.. They voted Treble to win the National finals with like 75% of the votes, leaving the other 2 finalists with 25%.. And then they all voted that Treble wasn't going to amount into anything at Eurovision.. I don't care for the national finals and stuff, but that just seemed stupid to me.. Why vote for someone you don't feel confident about anyway :rolleyes:
BTW - that Sakis guy annoys me :rolleyes:
spyretto
18-05-2006, 21:56
My pick: Bulgaria, Belgium ,Cyprus Form... blah... Macedonia :p, Finland, Poland, , Russia, Turkey, Ukraine, Estonia, Bosnia (following the tradition of all ex Yugo republics qualifying EXCEPT Slovenia. :p) ...
maybe one day Slovenia will qualify...just send a good song for a change and we'll vote for you !
maybe one day Slovenia will qualify...just send a good song for a change and we'll vote for you !
That shan't happen anytime soon. We have a tradition to nurture. ;)
She wasn't booed about the performance but some joke she made about the Greeks saying they are"f*** lazy"...as if it isn't true, lol
LMAO... that'd explain it. Though honestly she could have been booed for the horrid performance as well.
EDIT: Sakis looks like a gay-lord. Or something out of an S&M nightmare. :/
spyretto
18-05-2006, 22:10
yeaaaaaaah Russia through!!!
and former... is through!
B&H is through
so far so good.
Both Ex Yu republics through... except the obvious one. :p
Lithuania?! My God... let them not be the winners.
Alice Cooper is through! Yay!
Ukraine... expected... solid vocals.
Ireland? Come ON. Tackytackytackytacky...
Sweden... predictable again.
Turkey...yeah.. she's weird... but the song was okay.
Armenia?! The ethno thing one more time? Blah...
WTF?! Belgium missed out. :eek:
... also Bulgaria...
spyretto
18-05-2006, 22:12
Still hope, lol
WTFFFF Lithuania???
ok, Europeans are offically assholes.
WTF Lithuania?!
It's corrupt, for sure..
spyretto
18-05-2006, 22:14
ok, total nonsense...now Ukraine is through.
and Ireland... which means deserved songs will be left out.
Well done.. "Okraine" :rolleyes:
WTF? Ireland??
Where's Belgium?! Slovenia?!
spyretto
18-05-2006, 22:16
Belgium will be left out I think.
Oh no, Armenia with the totally off-tune guy made it ;)
The results of the semi-final (running order in the final):
Russia (10)
Mecedonia (11)
Bosnia-H (13)
Lithuania (14) - haha Viva Eurovision!
Finland (17)
Ukraine (18)
Ireland (21) - haha Viva Eurovision!
Sweden (22)
Turkey (23) - haha Viva Eurovision!
Armenia (24) - haha Viva Eurovision!
I won't be watching Saturday.. I'm convinced it's corrupt :rolleyes:
spyretto
18-05-2006, 22:21
They got that Raz Sampson on BBC3 now and he's such an IDIOT.
He says he can win. Booo!
Sibel Tuzun's performance for fanoff:
Spec:
Video: DivX 5 800x450 1500Kbps 25.00fps
Audio: MPEG Audio Layer 3 44100Hz stereo 192Kbps
Size: 40MB
Length: 3:20
Rapidshare Link (http://rapidshare.de/files/20799759/Sibel_Tuzun_-_Superstar__2006_Semi-Final___Rachel_.avi.html)
spyretto
18-05-2006, 22:24
I won't be watching Saturday.. I'm convinced it's corrupt :rolleyes:
Or maybe that Eastern Europe STILL got the upper hand in voting? Look at the demographics of the countries through.
It's obvious this year that some really undeserving songs went through, which means that we should be start thinking about an Eastern European winner again...Romania perhaps?
Anyway, the semi was pretty crappy indeed..needless to say...with an appropriate ending
...Romania perhaps?Romania has a GOOD song :yes:
I liked Belarussia, Macedonia, Belgium, Iceland (funny), Russia (not bad)
11Russia
18-05-2006, 22:26
:cry: I'm so sad Kate Ryan didn't make it to the finals! :( :( :(
11Russia, it's quite surprising considering she is already famous :confused:
spyretto
18-05-2006, 22:28
The voting was rigged.
I'm really shocked about Kate Ryan not making it. She wasn't perfect but she was better than self proclaimed Lithuanian winners or the whiney Irishman. And WTF were they thinking with that Armenian ethno guy? He was annoying.
11Russia
18-05-2006, 22:29
11Russia, it's quite surprising considering she is already famous :confused:
I know :cry: and considerating that her song wasn't that bad (I mean listen to other songs that made it to the final :bum: )
:mad:
Or maybe that Eastern Europe STILL got the upper hand in voting? Look at the demographics of the countries through.
It's obvious this year that some really undeserving songs went through, which means that we should be start thinking about an Eastern European winner again...Romania perhaps?
Anyway, the semi was pretty crappy indeed..needless to say...with an appropriate ending
That's what I've been thinking for the past few years, that the Eastern Europeans are taking over Eurovision.. I think it won't be long before at least Holland calls it quits - the tv station that's been broadcasting Eurovision ever since the very beginning doesn't even want to host it anymore.. Maybe another commercial tv station will take over, but whatever.. I don't think it'll work anymore for us westerners :p
I wanted Kate Ryan :( And the cute short haired dancer chick from Slovenia :laugh:
spyretto
18-05-2006, 22:33
She had definitely one of the better songs. But the performance was not very good, I was surprised, I expected her to be less nervous.
That's what I've been thinking for the past few years, that the Eastern Europeans are taking over Eurovision.. :laugh:
If that were to be the case Bulgaria, Belarus and Slovenia would go through as well. :p
Well, Lordi and Finland are safe and sound through the semi-final. Now let's look forward to saturday and some hard rockin'! :D
If that were to be the case Bulgaria, Belarus and Slovenia would go through as well. :p
Well.. Wouldn't that just make it a tad bit TOO obvious?
Well.. Wouldn't that just make it a tad bit TOO obvious?
Yeah... but that's the point. :p
spyretto
18-05-2006, 22:45
If that were to be the case Bulgaria, Belarus and Slovenia would go through as well. :p
Bulgaria and Slovenia are still outsiders with no pedigree, both need to do more ass-kissing to go through next year.
Though Bulgaria was nice. They just need to find a more suitable ESC song.
Having said that, I'm watching Slovenia again and it was an OK performance with a ESC type of song so my verdict is that his beard is to blame.
Having said that, I'm watching Slovenia again and it was an OK performance so my verdict is that his beard is to blame.
More likely the fact he's only 19 and that hairy. It had to take some hormonal therapy to get him to this stage.
I'm actually more sad for Bulgaria, though.
thegurgi
18-05-2006, 23:11
i'm actually glad that Lithuania got through... but i'm a newcomer to the contest but as we (a group of people with no real ties to any country, or can understand neighboorly voting) liked Lithuania the best, it stood out and had a fun, light hearted nature and seemed to be performed well. We also liked Monaco (even though she was flat most of the time) and Bosnia. Most of the people here had never heard of the contest until yesterday... but yeah.
:: waits for backlash ::
spyretto
18-05-2006, 23:19
i'm actually glad that Lithuania got through... but i'm a newcomer to the contest but as we (a group of people with no real ties to any country, or can understand neighboorly voting) liked Lithuania the best, it stood out and had a fun, light hearted nature and seemed to be performed well. We also liked Monaco (even though she was flat most of the time) and Bosnia. Most of the people here had never heard of the contest until yesterday... but yeah.
:: waits for backlash ::
Well, I'm sure there are fans of the Lithuanian song, otherwise who else would have voted it through. Lithuania
never made it to the final before while the other Baltic counties are both recent winners so..well I don't know... :p
Of course there's no neighbouring voting in ESC, that's a long-standing myth as far as I'm concerned... :lalala:
thegurgi
18-05-2006, 23:21
Of course there's no neighbouring voting in ESC, that's a long-standing myth as far as I'm concerned...
i think neighboorly voting just makes sense, how can ask such a large group of people to vote merely on 'musical creditability'... of course they're going to vote like that.
i think neighboorly voting just makes sense, how can ask such a large group of people to vote merely on 'musical creditability'... of course they're going to vote like that.
I think he was just being sarcastic. OF COURSE there's neigbourhood voting, come on. :p ... it's a very accepted (and obvious) fact.
I think Lithuania came through simply on the symphaty vote, though. People thought "awww... look at these poor deluded people... let's vote for them so their utopia will last till saturday at least." If they win on Saturday though... I'mma shoot myself. :p
thegurgi
18-05-2006, 23:29
I think he was just being sarcastic
i know he was... but i thought he was thinking i said it didn't... so, i felt the need to reply. although, I think it was well placed sarcasm. :goodjob:
Having said that, I'm watching Slovenia again and it was an OK performance with a ESC type of song so my verdict is that his beard is to blame.
:laugh: Beards are badass! Hehe. But aye, that was an ok song, indeed. It was one of the songs I thought would go to the final for sure. I mean, Lithuenia (the ones with that 'We are the winners' thingie) ..? Pleeaaase... I know they are comedians and stuff, but ohoh my gaawd. Hehe.. it's just "bah!". Slovenia could easily have switched with them and all would be ok really. Hehehe.
hey that was not a wonderful show but it works i think.the performances were weak as they all countries can do just better.as for the results im happy that we could get to the final!Sibel's performance was weak at times but ahow was good.its not her best.the results im not happ about are lithuania,armenia and ireland get to the final.the performancesof those countries,especially that armenian guy that couldnt get the breath to sing some parts and lithuanian guys that couldnt add anything for fun,fifnt deserve to make it at all and sıhould be replaced by Belgium,Slovenia(even though i dislike the song) and Estonia
p.s:thank you rachel for capping sibel's performance.you rock!
im not that crazy about eurovision but this year is specal for me that its the first contest i can feel the improvements of songs and listen them all before the shows.
spyretto
19-05-2006, 00:06
I think Lithuania came through simply on the symphaty vote, though. People thought "awww... look at these poor deluded people... let's vote for them so their utopia will last till saturday at least." If they win on Saturday though... I'mma shoot myself. :p
Ahem, what type of gun are you going to use? I'll organise a little betting contest on that too!
Ahem, what type of gun are you going to use? I'll organise a little betting contest on that too!
Smith & Wesson, thankyouverymuch. I'd like to go out in style. :p
Poor Kate (http://belgovision.com/en/index_f.php?id=1214) :(
11Russia
19-05-2006, 03:18
Poor Kate (http://belgovision.com/en/index_f.php?id=1214) :(
:cry: OMG I feel very sad for her... She did a great job! :rose:
volkovito
19-05-2006, 03:51
13- dima bilan - russia PEVAIA (Sexy)..
Photos.:
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o_O
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<<:lalala:>> :rolleyes:
coolasfcuk
19-05-2006, 04:34
ok, i couldnt watch, since ive been gone all day .. cutting WOOD in desperate attempts to finish my project :dead:
so Bulgaria didnt qualify .. BOOOOOOOO .... Rachel :lalala: would you be SO kind to upload it for me.. i now want to see if at least was as good as freds says.. i like her and i think the girl can sing... just the song is so ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz... take that back, i like the song in general, but it is not an Eurovision song
"Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" LMAO
Silly Greeks.It's not silly. :D The Slavic people who live in that country are basically Bulgarians, they have nothing to do with the genuine Hellenic Macedonians, they have no rights on the name. Why not rename the country West Bulgaria? Or better yet, merge with Bulgaria altogether. :D
LOL @ Lithuania…I'm taking that as a not so subtle "fuck-off" to the show itself, and i can appreciate the humor in that. :laugh: Something Tatu didn't dare to do 3 years ago.
Poor KateOh well, it's better for her to go back to what she does best, dance music. The good news is that she's releasing a new album in September, yay! :D We'll talk about it in the Begian Dance Music thread.
coolasfcuk
19-05-2006, 05:00
The Slavic people who live in that country are basically Bulgarians, they have nothing to do with the genuine Hellenic Macedonians, they have no rights on the name. Why not rename the country West Bulgaria? Or better yet, merge with Bulgaria altogether. :D
dont even go there... it is slippery grounds you are stepping on :gigi:
ok, i just watched Turkey (thanks rach for uploading it)... what the F...... she looked BAD - spilling out of her ugly dress, did not have body for that dress, horrible face.... then she sounded BAD .... and where was her voice? just because she threw in a little 10 sec ethno bootie shaking dance in there doesnt mean good... and this made the final? pleasssssse....
angelmouse
19-05-2006, 06:43
Oh crap! I completely forgot all about this last night, I was so tired. I tried to catch up on this thread but how many pages did you write last night :)
Anyway, I saw the list of qualifiers, I guess that's all I need. No I'll just have to concentrate on remembering to watch the final....is it tomorrow?
It's not silly. :D The Slavic people who live in that country are basically Bulgarians, they have nothing to do with the genuine Hellenic Macedonians, they have no rights on the name. Why not rename the country West Bulgaria? Or better yet, merge with Bulgaria altogether. :D
Goodness. You'd get slaughtered for saying that in Skopje. :p That's like saying merge Belarus with Russia. Ain't gonna happen. And yeah sure... Macedonia was hellenic in the genuine sense of the word. But it's not really a trade-mark if you know what I mean. That part of the region was always named Macedonia (or at least a part of the original hellenic Macedonia) and it just so happens it's currently being run by slavics who call themselves Macedonians and identify as such. It'd be asking much of them to start calling themselves Bulgarians all of a sudden. That's like asking Spaniards, Italians and French to call themselves former citizens of the Roman Republic. :p
Anywayz... my hot pick for saturday is still Finland followed by France (though their chances are limited considering they don't sing in English).
little_polar_bear
19-05-2006, 09:52
Last night I watched the show with a couple of English and German friends and our best three didn't make it to the final - Belgium, Slovenia and Andorra (well, I remembered the song of the lady in black really well after having listened to all the entries only once, so that made me feel, it's a good song...).
Anyway, my favourite is still Romania.
It's Sakis Rouvas and Maria Menounos(model or sth).
coolasfcuk, it appears that Rachel is busy somewhere so here's my cap in the meantime > Bulgaria (http://rapidshare.de/files/20869807/Bulgaria_-_ESC_2006.mpeg.html). It's lower quality than Rachel but still watchable. :gigi:
coolasfcuk
19-05-2006, 20:26
haku, darling, thank you very much! :rose:
took a while to dl but i just watched it once (will re-watch later, gotta run out now), but first impressions:
ok, at least she looked good, the dancers looked good... Azis and the other guy didnt look that good on that stage, but Azis was SO background, I am not used to seeing him like that... and so little drag for him!
Also, at least MAriana can sing, just too bad it wasnt an eurovision song... i cant comment on whether it shouldve qualified or not, as i have only seen this and Turky;s performances...
btw, i cant watch anything from the official site on a mac... it was not the case last year,... any other fellow Mac user streaming the show?
haku, I am actually more interested to know what the french commentators were saying at the end... with that cute laugh lol
oh and it also shows you how UNPOPULAR we are when it comoes to europe... even Armenia surpasses us :dead: and speechless!
haku, I am actually more interested to know what the french commentators were saying at the end... with that cute laugh lol
Haha, well, the guy was basically saying that the singer reminded him a bit of Tina Arena, and then the girl said she liked the backup singer, and then the guy replied that he looked like the supermodel Satia (http://lesrobinsdesbois.free.fr/gfx/stars/saita.jpg), only after eating a bit too much, which made the girl laugh. :)
spyretto
19-05-2006, 22:07
Goodness. You'd get slaughtered for saying that in Skopje. :p That's like saying merge Belarus with Russia. Ain't gonna happen. And yeah sure... Macedonia was hellenic in the genuine sense of the word. But it's not really a trade-mark if you know what I mean. That part of the region was always named Macedonia (or at least a part of the original hellenic Macedonia) and it just so happens it's currently being run by slavics who call themselves Macedonians and identify as such. It'd be asking much of them to start calling themselves Bulgarians all of a sudden. That's like asking Spaniards, Italians and French to call themselves former citizens of the Roman Republic.
They can call themselves Slavo-Macedonians, that's what they are, aren't they? you said before 'that wouldn't be fair to the Albanian minority or whatever; I say it's perfectly fine. A nation of Slavs who occupy a small part of what used to be territory of the Ancient Macedonian kingdom.
So you have just admitted yourself that we do have a case about the name here, didn't you? - depite the 'siliness' :p
Actually they were on the brink of being recognised as Slavic Macedonia in the early 90s and they would be if we stupid Greeks weren't so cocky in our demand to lose the name Macedonia completely. At the end we got a worse deal than what we were bargaining for.
As for the name nowadays, I can see no siliness in calling them 'Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia'as which is the officially recognised name in the whole of the EU, and that is what they were called in the ESC last year in Ukraine, and the year before, can go back and check.
As for the history, and to set the record straight,only a small region of what it is proclaimed now as Republic of Macedonia used to be part of the ancient Macedonian empire - the rest of it - before the expansionism under Alexander the Great - laid in what is now modern Greece; I've been to the ruins of the capital Pella -not far from my home town in fact - and seen the tomb of Philip II, son of Alexander, discovered by the late Manolis Andronicos. What were the Macedonians? There was a debate during the hellenic and hellenistic times as to whether they were Greeks or not; maybe they weren't Greeks at all. Athenians for sure didn't recognise them as Greeks; however the fact remains that they spoke a Greek dialect, had strong ties with many of the Greek city states, their culture was very much Greek-oriented, their kings proclaimed themselves Greek Macedons; and Alexander the Great in particular went to great lengths to prove his Greek heritage.
spyretto
19-05-2006, 22:29
haku, darling, thank you very much! :rose:
took a while to dl but i just watched it once (will re-watch later, gotta run out now), but first impressions:
ok, at least she looked good, the dancers looked good... Azis and the other guy didnt look that good on that stage, but Azis was SO background, I am not used to seeing him like that... and so little drag for him!
Also, at least MAriana can sing, just too bad it wasnt an eurovision song... i cant comment on whether it shouldve qualified or not, as i have only seen this and Turky;s performances...
btw, i cant watch anything from the official site on a mac... it was not the case last year,... any other fellow Mac user streaming the show?
haku, I am actually more interested to know what the french commentators were saying at the end... with that cute laugh lol
oh and it also shows you how UNPOPULAR we are when it comoes to europe... even Armenia surpasses us :dead: and speechless!
The bottom line is that to see Bulgaria qualify would be good, to see Belgium qualify would be even better but watching Lithuania being booed by the spectators for making it to the final was indeed priceless.
Finally, this year should be a wake-up call to change the voting system. I propose that each country should not be allowed to vote for a) any neighbouring country b) any country where people speak the same language. Only then would we see a fair contest :p
Finally, this year should be a wake-up call to change the voting system.
Never! This contest is fun and not any super serious show-business project where you HAVE to find the best. All the fun about the contest is its unpredictible result. :coctail:
*Goes back to make her Top 10*
spyretto
19-05-2006, 22:48
Never! This contest is fun and not any super serious show-business project where you HAVE to find the best. All the fun about the contest is it's unpredictible result. :coctail:
*Goes back to make her Top 10*
Hmmm fair enough, but no complaints tomorrow after Sweden loses due to some dodgy political voting. ;)
but no complaints tomorrow after Sweden loses due to some dodgy political voting.
I don't think Sweden wins tomorrow. So no complains here. :D
some comments about the final rehearsals
As for the performance, the only ones worth talking about are;
NORWAY : Strong prformance. Very good reaction.
MALTA : Fabrizion has thankfully shaved:D and moves much better. Change the bad haircut.
GERMANY : Better than before but not he big hit in the arena which I expected.
RUSSIA : I now think that this could win. Top 3 at worst.
ROMANIA : 100 times better than earlier. A HUGE reaction in the crowd. Grece will give this 12.
BOSNIA : Another huge reaction.
GREECE : I'm afraid this wasn't better than before. Anna's head movement are not as distracting, but it was poor vocally and she still looks like one Little Bo Peep gone wrong.
FINLAND : Power but very static.
FRANCE : Better than before, but it will still struggle not to be last.
CROATIA : Good, but not getting the reaction in the arena, that I hoped it would get. ot a winner I'm afraid.
IRELAND : Same as before, and Top 10 is the best we can hope for.
SWEDEN : A VERY shakey performance by Carola, who is missing her cues and was holding back vocally. It's like herself and Anna Vissi are shadow-boxing.
TURKEY : Great performance and a surprise candidate for the Top 5
I am not a fan of Eurovision but I think the UK entry is far worse than usual.
I quite like Lordi though :D .
spyretto
20-05-2006, 03:08
Hopefully the UK will flop. I expect Greece to flop as well. People who saw the final rehearsal are reporting that Vissi's performance was weak and as she has no supporting cast on stage - no backing singers or dancers - it all depends on her mood on the night but it's certainly not good at the moment. Even the most optimistic of Greeks think this won't live up to the hype.
Anyway, as long as the UK and Greece flop below the top 5 I'm happy.
As for Lordi, there's a conspiracy orchestrated by metal fans who never watched Eurovision before to get them as high in the rankings as possible. Expect the UK to be giving a lot of points to them.
Greeks like Sweden, Bosnia/Herzegovina and Romania and will be voting for them. Lordi will get points too.
There are some other wild cards in the contest, namely Norway and Russia, though a surprise might come from the lower regions too.
I personally liked the Ukrainian "Shakira" Tina Karol; she's cute, energetic and got a powerful voice, great falsetto towards the end of the song as well; dancing's good too.
I'm not gonna be voting but this will be my only bet for the night...so good luck to me
Who will win Eurovision 2006 (Grand Final) - Live on RTE1/BBC1
On 20th of May 2006 8:00pm
Outright e/w 1-2-3-4
Romania @ 7.00
No time to make a proper prediction, so here's my quick Top 10:
Finland
Russia
Romania
Greece
Bosnia
Sweden
Croatia
Ukraine
Turkey
UK
spyretto
20-05-2006, 08:32
ok , here's my definite top 8
1. Sweden
2. Finland :p
3. Romania
4. Bosnia
5. Russia
6. Ukraine
7. Croatia
8. Germany
if I was forced to include a number 9, I'd say Turkey; though the performance was a little weak considering and Sibel looks a bit weird herself; perhaps they should have opted for a different presentation. Probably Norway for #10.
So its Nordic heaven vs hell battling out for my top spot; though I tipped Romania to win because a) it's probably the only song we will hear again after the competition is over b) they'll get a lot of neighbouring votes as they're consistenty getting good positions in the last few years c) haven't heard of a single person who didn't like it so far d) a male solo performer hasn't won the contest in ages.
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 08:52
hmm, can i request Romania as well... pleeeeeeeeease :girl:
My betting:
Finland
Russia
Romania
P.S. I had to move Greece a bit up.
*waves from Sky City*
Mad Debz
20-05-2006, 19:31
I've been on a college holiday in Greece since Monday, I came back this morning. I was in Athans thursday and Friday. I've fell over a few Eurovision people in the lobby of our hotel. On thursday I was sat on the steps in Syntagma Square when I heard some Russian voices, then I spotted the Eurovision bags and ID's and the Dima Tshirt. I do belive this is some of the Russin entourage. ;)
Russia in Athans (http://www.teamtatu.com/files/rueuro.jpg)
Those cow moddle things are following me they where on display in Mosow last Aurgust ;)
I couldn't resit buying this badge ;)
I Love Russia (http://www.teamtatu.com/files/rubadge.jpg)
I have a UK one too ;)
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 19:40
halleluiaaaaaaaaa, i finally had the time and patience to read about that god damn online plug-in you need to play their stream.. and there is a BETA version for Mac, so it isnt working perfectly, but i am connecter :rose: (even though BG isnt on booooooooo)... i think its 20 mins to start and they are playing the audience catchy POP-song that i hear on the bulgarian radio i listen to all the time... :lol: very good, get them prepared... where is my popcorn :epopocorn:
spyretto
20-05-2006, 20:14
So anybody watching? I wonder if those people representing Switzerland can get any more noisy and annoying.
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 20:15
i am and its BAD ... lol what is this: educational christian tv? that songs was SO BAD! Switzernald -10 points
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 20:16
ricky martin on crack? :lol:
So anybody watching? I wonder if those people representing Switzerland can get any more noisy and annoying.
I begged for mercy, but ...!
spyretto
20-05-2006, 20:17
There's a LOT of thrash this year. Next up is Moldova...it should come with a healthy warning.
Switzerland, Moldova, Israel ... I'm taking earplugs now! Brrrrrrrrrr!
First two passed without even drawing my attention. Israel is ok but boring. 16th place.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 20:23
oh my god , listen to that woman squealing from the Israeli delegation of Jesus. :bum:
Next one is Latvia and it's acaPpella. ( and I believe HORRIBLE )
hey, guys YOU CAN'T SING, LET ALONE ACAPPELLA. :mad:
Latvia - fun but too sophisticated for an average audience.
Next one is Latvia and it's acapella. ( and I believe HORRIBLE )
I've found my never before used mute-button!
Norway - very beautiful but too old. 12th place.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 20:28
Latvia - fun but too sophisticated for an average audience.
Sophisticated? :p
ok, at least the Norwegian girl is very nice indeed. Solid performance
Norway quite o.k. but not really great.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 20:30
Norway - very beautiful but too old. 12th place.
top 5..
Las Ketchup :bum:
The chairs are from IKEA?
Omg. Las Ketchup now. :lol:
Sophisticated?
Yep.
Spain, bleh.... 11th place, oops. It's flat.
Las hijas del tomate - I've expected something more, rather moderately original.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 20:34
Norway is the best so far. Las Ketchup must have ended their career right on that stage.
Malta - out of key. Bye Fabricio! 14th place for ABBA tunes.
Edit: The whole song out of key, wow! 20th place now.
Malta - iiiiiiiiiiiiiii!
And this grin! (The girls look o.k.;) )
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 20:38
lol, im falling asleep in my bed while trying to watch... so far its SO bad!!!!!
Norway was the only one that was ok.. and only because she was good and beautiful... but the song was BAD
everything else... wow i cant pick the worst of the worst...
Germany - the singer is Australian. It's fun but nothing special. It'll be forgotten. 13th place.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 20:40
lol, im falling asleep in my bed while trying to watch... so far its SO bad!!!!!
Norway was the only one that was ok.. and only because she was good and beautiful... but the song was BAD
everything else... wow i cant pick the worst of the worst...
I warned you :p
ok, Germany is up to whether you like this style or not. Pretty old-fashioned.
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 20:40
Dolly Parton in Mexico (the cactus) ... Oh my fucking GOD! I am about to give up on the eurovision SOON! WHY HOW is this better than Bulgaria?>???????
Texas lightning! Country Oldie Band, nice, but not carrying away.
Argos, are you watching on ORF? I was watching on Das Erste but the signal just TOTALLY went :none: That fucked up the capping of 2 songs :(
spyretto
20-05-2006, 20:43
Dolly Parton in Mexico (the cactus) ... Oh my fucking GOD! I am about to give up on the eurovision SOON! WHY HOW is this better than Bulgaria?>???????
It's not but what do we know ? ;)
It didn't have to qualify.
Denmark - I'm beginning to think this might enter top 10.
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 20:45
i just have one questions... what year are we? LOL
on my pixaleted screen one of the danish girls looks JUST like Paris Hilton though :lol:
Argos, are you watching on ORF? I was watching on Das Erste but the signal just TOTALLY went :none: That fucked up the capping of 2 songs :(
yes, I do. No problems.
Germany, Denmark...Is this an oldie show:confused:
spyretto
20-05-2006, 20:46
Denmark - I'm beginning to think this might enter top 10.
It won't.
ok, Dima Bilan here's your Russian boy.
Russia - Top 3. I love it!
spyretto
20-05-2006, 20:48
Dont tell me the girl will go out of the piano! We've already seen that! do something else dude.
yes, I do. No problems.ORF is broadcasting at a very tasty 8Mb/s right now with Dolby AC3...yummmmy :liplick: :liplick: :liplick: Guess I'll be sticking to this all night.
Russia - very average, and a very phantasyful outfit - workers streetware!
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 20:49
ok, at least we are back in OUR times, but.. i really cant stand the singer... his hair, his facial expressions, and his DAncing style ahhhh.... but the best one so far.. not hard to surpass the others though LoL
Macedonia - out of key. Bye Britney.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 20:52
common nynanaynyananaya...shake that ass!
COOL do you like it? it's ethnic..
ok, lets see if Romania wins or not.
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 20:52
alright, if its going to be trashy at least be OUR trash! Balkan trash is always BETTER LoL
go Macedonia
FYRM - behaves like a casting band, but quite o.k., at least some expression and choreography.
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 20:54
i have to disagree forrer, this is obviously not about who can sing.. but who can shake it the best.. and has the most friends around europe that is , so that was more entertaining for me than 95% of what we've seen so far LOL
Romania - it's great! 2nd place or perhaps a winner.
Romania - his voice is convincing, the song is not to my taste, but it's the best performance so far.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 20:57
hope I get my $$$ ;)
Oppsss. I'm a bit late.
I loved Romania just now. Awesome vocal. Catchy song. Nice boy. Daaangerous.
Denmark was good as well.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 20:59
alright, if its going to be trashy at least be OUR trash! Balkan trash is always BETTER LoL
go Macedonia
That's sooo predictable. :p
Now we got Sakis and Maria who wouldn't be able to say something good even if you didn't pay them.
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 20:59
oh baby, we have a winner!
Romaania was great!
young, great looking, stage was alive, could sing ... my #1 vote so far
not to mension anyone who wears pink (red?) convers is a winner! LoL i got a pair as well... so i can be a winner i mean
That's sooo predictabl
you know me :girl:
HariMataHari are pretty legendary in these parts of the world (ex Yu)... I was bored with this song on thursday but it's getting better now. Like it more and more. I doubt it's a possible contender for the win though.
Bosnia - very beautiful. Top 6.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:02
I have my money on Romania this year...did my homework and all.
fingers crossed.
Bosnia - The song is great, but eggs and tomatoes upon the singer!
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:03
Yeah, we knew from the start Bosnia would do well. Like Croatia did last year. I like Croatia better though.
When is Severina Vuckovic performing?
Lithuania - refrains from commenting. *dead*
P.S. It's funny, I have to admit it.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:05
Bosnia - The song is great, but eggs and tomatoes upon the singer!
No, save the eggs for LT united. So who actually voted for that in the semi? Weirdos!
But yeah, it's a novelty thing. :bum:
Wow, they really think they can win? nice booing
UK rapping is next, more novelty!
Yeah, we knew from the start Bosnia would do well. Like Croatia did last year. I like Croatia better though.
When is Severina Vuckovic performing?
At the very end. Severina looked like a slut though with that thick lipstick overdrive.
Oh God... Lithuania looks even more ridiculous today.
Lithuania - can it be worse? ESC was getting well and now this!
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 21:08
well, obviously it pays to mock.. this passed semifinal no? :lol:
Bosnia was ok, but not my fav.. i like Croatia more as well... even last years Croatia which was similar to this years bosnia, but BETTER
Uk - Hilarius. Top 10. It could win too.
QueenBee
20-05-2006, 21:09
I only started watching just now.
WTF @ the UK?
UK - School's out now, go home (SILENTLY!)
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 21:10
what is it with educational and christian songs this year? helloooooooooooooooo
omg, UK is always horrible! at this point this stuff actually is making me laugh... at the begining i was frawning
UK: Rap on Eurovision? What's next? Chicks with dicks?
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:11
well done Daz! great performance . Now please go back to your cage.
QueenBee
20-05-2006, 21:11
Haha, the guy who's commenting is so funny... "Just so you know, all those girls in that performance are over 18 years old" :laugh:
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:12
Greece is next, forre's fav.
It's Carola vs Vissi for the price of the most annoying diva.
Greece - forre is old, forre loves it. top 5.
Such an Eurovision standard. Top 10 for Greece. Not my fav though. Anyone reminded of "One of Us" by Abba?
Grrece - a convincing appearance, but the song itself is a bit weak, nevertheless good performance.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:15
She was good, I gotta give her that. Carola was holding back too wasn't she.
ok, turn up the volume now :D
Lordi next! Too bad Eurovision is decided by housewife votes, otherwise they'd win.
Associations: HIM, Alice Cooper, Darkness ...
EDIT: That back-up singer has a mighty fine vocal.
Another association: Marc Bolan & The T-Rex.
Finland - funny, good. A great performance! Maybe another winner?
What's next? Chicks with dicks?Just wait, Turkey is coming up.
Oh LORDI! Finland twelve points (times 24):lol:
QueenBee
20-05-2006, 21:19
Awesomeness.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:19
Cheeky Tina Karol next.
Mad Debz
20-05-2006, 21:19
Russia, not catchy enough, UK, It's grown on my. Finland- Mummy I'm scared! ;)
*runs off to the pub*
Just wait, Turkey is coming up.
:lol:
Ukraine is annoyingly infectious. :p
Ukraine - good performance, but Ruslana was faaaaaar better! But some spice in the show:done:
I loved Lordi :D .
(my gf is so embarrassed to be Lithuanian right now !)
Take it or leave it but Ukraine does nothing for me. Should do well though.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:24
time to take a nap. It's France next!
QueenBee
20-05-2006, 21:24
Finally someone who is not singing in English...
I love the French entry. But it's gonna do badddddd :(
France - will be forgotten in next 2 minutes. 18th place.
Edit: The bridge is out of key. F**k!
France - just boring, if her voice were a bit 'warmer' it might have not been so bad.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:26
Yeah, sad but true. although the pop ballad will be back one day. Yeah the performance was flat, they needed a performer with more flair and feeling for that kind of song.
Nice song by France but this girl is totally defeated vocally. :none:
Croatia = :ill: :ill: :ill: :ill:
Severina. Ironically this song sounds like total Serbian folklore song. That's like Israel coming to Eurovision with belly-dancing from 1001 nights. :p
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:29
What it's about a red shoe...Africa paprica :p
Croatia - Lively, good choreography, but the girl should do some vocal training.
Oh God. She sluts it up. Ew. :/ At least she's singing in Serbocroatian though. :p
Irish crooner. Wake me up in 3 minutes.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:31
Ireland next...just behold the smarminess!
The Ireland entry reminds me of Daniel O'Donnell :ill: :ill: :ill:
Someone PLEASE shut him up! :bum:
Ireland - 15th place. There's only one place for a ballade in Top 10 and it's taken by Greece without any doubt.
Ireland - let's howl together! wooohooooooooooo!
If he'd go one octave higher he'd be up there with Vienna Boys castrati. :/
If Europe falls pray to this schmalz I'm officially giving up on European people having any taste whatsoever.
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 21:35
Iev been sticking to my bed, but since Ireland is sooo Zzzzzzzzzzzz
Severina... LoL I liked it more in the video.. not to mention that she shouldnt have torn that dress off... it was provocative enough at first and i was fine with it, but the second it came off anu sort of class flew out of her... the song is good though and i OF COURSE loved the dancing... sucha good CHALGA!
opaaaaa sirtaki... mmmm hmmmmm i am enjoying those greece blurbs in between
i wanted to say that i liked Greece as well.. am not sure how good the sining was, but i liked the singer
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 21:37
omg, ANOTHER bad ABBA... sweeeeeeeeeeeedene are you kidding me?????
*is off to PUKE* :ill:
Sweden - top 7.
yeah, cuse norway, danmark, finland and some other neiighbor is gonna give it 12 :lol:
Carola's facial expressions scare me :cry: :cry: :cry:
:lol:
Sweden - auweia, that hurts! (My granny loves it!)
S-U-P-E-R-S-T-A-R Gooooooooooooo!!!! #10. That's it.
Sweden was cool. I liked it better than on thursday. The Turkish tranny is next. Supesrstaaaar.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:40
Is there any more left?
Oh Turkey.
So guys, who do you think will win?
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 21:40
omg, the drunken prisoner from turey! .. i have to admit, the song is so catchy its grown on me.. LOL the singer is still SCARY though.. i like how turkish sounds!
Turkey's entry is fucking awful. Nothing more to be said.
Does s/he have a penis hiding under her/his clothes?! :gigi:
Tukey - let the boys dance and hide the singer (and her voice too, annoying, brrrr!)
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:44
Higher than 20 for sure forre. It's ethnic.
Ethno throwback from Armenia... hmmm... it's definitely catchy. He seems like a less goodlooking Tarkan. :p
Armenia - I'd rather listen to a squeeking door! Swallow the microphone, please!!
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:47
ok, I'm not voting for anything. Not even for Lithuania :p
but who do you guys think can win?
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 21:48
the last song HURTS LoL
my vote goes to Romania... i really cant pick anyone else... ummm... this was so bad!
i enjoyed Croatia.. and kind of enjoyed Russia and Turkey.... i think that's about it... oh and greece was kind of OK....this year was def a lot less chalga... .maybe the ethno is finally dying....
So, go Romaniaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. if BG doesnt give 12 points to Romania i will kick thier butts!
muaaaaaaah nana... lol... she is great looking..i dig the glassses!... what language, honey?
Romania was very good, Bosnia had a great song. but not the most appealing singer, Vissi from Greece was a perfect performer with a song, which may not be the best, but I pray fpr LORDIIII!
The rest, forget it!
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:53
Romania for me also...song's nothing special but the performance was great. Plus I have my money on that boy.
Nath thinks:
UK
Russia
Greece
Romania
spyretto
20-05-2006, 21:56
Terry Wogan wants Sweden and he very much enjoyed Germany cause it was country
The spanish song was horrible again... I think my country is going to get the last position...
I like UK, bosnia and lithuania....this one was very funny...
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 22:00
ok, commenting on the re-cap
from the top 9 only Norway gets a point for being hot and Spain for the cute 'Muchas Gracias' at the end lol
Russia gets 7 points
Macedonia gets 4.5
Romania 12 points
Bosnia 5
Greece 6 - i am not a ballad person, but this performance i liked
Croatia 10 just because i like the Balkan song.. and the chalga dance
Turkey .. oh god, 8.. because its stuck on me
so really, if i judge by that, my voting would be, notice not who i think would win, (i wanna see if i am as close to the bulgarian vote like last year):
Romania: 12
Croatia: 10
Turkey: 8
Russia: 7
Greece: 6
Bosnia: 5
Macedonia: 4
Spain: 4
Norway: 3
sorry, i cant even fill all the spots LoL
All the rest get somewhere between 0 and -10 points!
Is this Elena on the stage... that was bad LoL
The spanish song was horrible again... I think my country is going to get the last position...
Never, Ireland and France were far 'better'!
spyretto
20-05-2006, 22:07
yeah, same for me, I'd only replace Germany with Greece - because it was a great performance and reshuffle the places a bit.
So:
Romania 12
Sweden 10
Finland 8
Bosnia 7
Russia 6
Croatia 5
Ukraine 4
Norway 3
Greece 2
Turkey 1
My vote:
Greece 12
Uk 10
Russia 8
Romania 7
Bosnia 6
Turkey 5
Sweden 4
Ireland 3
Demnark 2
Croatia 1
spyretto
20-05-2006, 22:09
wow, Greece 12? I was right then! ;)
coolasfcuk
20-05-2006, 22:09
i know finland would score high.. i just cant stand it lol
omg spy i am loving the greek presentation.... opaaaaaaaa, see, i LOVE things like that... the horo dance (what did you say you call it in greek?)
ok, i am off to my comfy bed again.... will be abck to see if we guessed right, spy ;)
I knew it... rigggggged. Bosnia and Croatia. Pffff. LOL
spyretto
20-05-2006, 22:11
which one of all? They had everything in those 10 minutes. Sirtaki must be the one.
Oh this is how they're gonna do it this year? Cut the voting procedure by at least 1 hour? :p
Moldavia-Romania.. haha. Riggged. :p
My top 3: Finland, Romania, Bosnia btw.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 22:14
Romaonia gave 12 to Moldova...shocking!
Baltic states are gonna be generous to Finland.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 22:16
So, Lithuania is 4th..have you picked the gun yet, freddie?
They'll never win it. I'm safe. :p
Haha... Sweden doesn't disappoint. :p
Finland shoots itself in the foot.
spyretto
20-05-2006, 22:19
Belgium are pretty pissed Kate didn't make it.
Serbia montenegro voted for the rest of the ex yugoslavs :p
Ex Yugoslavians are so predictable...almost as much as Scandinavians.
*predicts 12 to Finland from Norway* EDIT: ...score. :D
spyretto
20-05-2006, 22:26
It looks Finland just made with their Hard-Rock Hallelujah. Provided how updated they do sound
we can hope for trance to enter the ESC world sometime around 2030 :done:
Yeah. It's officially sealed. Rock and Roll angels were kind to some people it seems. :p
Cyprus is predictable...
I just CANNOT believe Lithuanian joke is so high up. What the hell is the matter with people? :bum:
I just watched the scoring for a little bit.. What a f*cking disgrace that Lithuania still got that many votes.. I'm appalled :rolleyes:
Dutch votes up now.. I wonder who got 12 points.. Turkey?! But ofcourse, what else is new :rolleyes: Almost half our population is Turkish.. We could just aswell change our countries' name from the Netherlands to New Instanbul or something :rolleyes:
Paul de Leeuw embarrased me as a Dutch person :laugh:
spyretto
20-05-2006, 22:37
That was Paul de Leeuw? well, even Sakis made a joke out of him which doesn't speak much of the guy.
France is on the nil pois :(
Menouros brings such an American flavour to the show..."amazing" :bum:
Eastern Slavic commeradery strikes once more. Ukraine 12 to Russia... however Russia doesn't return the favour. Odd. There must be a huge Armenian diaspora in Russia.
UK 10 to Lithuania?! Jesus Christ. :p
That was Paul de Leeuw? well, even Sakis made a joke out of him which doesn't speak much of the guy.
Paul beats Sakis any day.. He's hilarious!! Sakis is a dumbass pretty boy who isnt even all that pretty :rolleyes:
spyretto
20-05-2006, 22:50
Paul beats Sakis any day.. He's hilarious!! Sakis is a dumbass pretty boy who isnt even all that pretty :rolleyes:
Who is Paul anyway, some gay comedy reject? Don't even know the dude, he seemed a bit high and drunk at the same time, delaying the voting with his stupidity and that's what the whole of Europe saw.
At least we all know Sakis is a dumbass, don't even have to try, it comes naturally to him. Paul tried too much to prove exactly the same.
Reject? Are you serious? :lol: Not even hardly.. He's has his own shows for decades.. He's a very well respected, happy go lucky guy and he's fucking halirious.. His show rocks!! If he was American, he would've been on Saturday Night Live for sure, just to give you an comparision.. He's also very straight forward - maybe that's something other Europeans aren't used to :rolleyes:
Ofcourse you wouldn't know him, or do you watch Dutch television?!
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