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Old 27-09-2003, 00:47   #21
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:: thegurgi looks at taty994945 in horror thinking about the silence ::

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Old 27-09-2003, 01:07   #22
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disengage I'm not speaking about genre's.
That seemed to be what you're implying by saying that she doesn't like any classical, therefore she doesn't like music. I know it seems a little far-fetched because classical is such a broad genre, but it's possible for someone to just not be into it and still, in gerenal, like music. Although I guess she didn't mean it when she said she likes all kinds of music. I dunno, whatever.
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Old 27-09-2003, 01:25   #23
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I most definitely like music. I can usually get more emotion from the music itself than from the lyrics. The way I see it, the lyrics alone are just poems, and poetry tends to kind of bore me (no offense to all you poets out there). Add music to it, and you've got something totally different. It's the music that makes the song.

I tend to like almost everything, except the majority of rap and hip-hop (I like maybe 5 or 6 of rap songs...). Personally, I like any kind of song I can get emotion from, be it happyness, sadness, anger, etc. That preference tends to be a double-edged sword for me though, since while a happy song will cheer me up when I'm sad, a really emotional, sad song could possibly bring me down a bit. But I love that ability anyway. One of my favorite things is just closing my eyes and getting lost in the music. It's my idea of nirvana. ^_^

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Old 27-09-2003, 01:39   #24
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Disengage, i mentioned that classical made her fall asleep AND she couldn't stand song in forieng languages. It was one thought.

rivierakid, i understand that. and i am the same way.
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Old 27-09-2003, 11:15   #25
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Of course I do LOVE music!!Or I would never know who are tatu, and I won't play so many instruments I spent at least 30 minutes to listen music or play the instrument everyday, it's my habit, I almost could say I can't live without music My life would be meaningless if there is no music !
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Old 27-09-2003, 14:59   #26
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I spent at least 30 minutes to listen music everyday, it's my habit, I almost could say I can't live without music
i DO say i can't live without music
i listen to it every minute i can... when i'm home the music plays here ALL THE TIME... and even when i go to sleep i ALWAYS put a cd in my cd player and by the time the cd finishes, i'm asleep
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Old 27-09-2003, 17:00   #27
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and even when i go to sleep i ALWAYS put a cd in my cd player and by the time the cd finishes, i'm asleep
that wouldn't work for me. the music would just keep me awake, cause i would listen to it. so i don't know if you mean, you fall asleep WHILE the music is playing... or right after the music is playing. cause, that just doesn't work. It's getting rough here the dorm, cause i can always hear some music, and it keeps me awake. gah.
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Old 27-09-2003, 17:34   #28
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well...

i fall asleep WHILE the music is playing.
you see, i don't go to sleep because it's fun, but because i'm tired and need that sleep...so basically i make it through few songs and fall asleep. i don't actually LISTEN to them...they are like background music that just break that awfully silent nights
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Old 27-09-2003, 18:12   #29
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i would listen to them, as of no choice of my own. My brain and ears just automatically focus to the music. i only fall asleep to music if i'm utterly exhausted.
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Old 27-09-2003, 22:13   #30
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But otherwise...yeah I'd agree that we put AWAY to much emphasys on the lyrics while the music is suffocating in eternal loops and special effects (rap, R&B). The whole rap thing has become to big right now, to the point that it really hurts the creativity of music and what it represents.
you had me going until this portion of the post. firstly i would like to say that rap and r&b are the 2 most critized forms/genres of music ever. to me a voice is an instrument. therefore it just as important to the song as the drums, guitar etc.

what is rap?
rap is poetry put to music. it is a form of expression many ppl outside of its culture misunderstand. rap music is normally frowned upon by many b/c of its lyrics. some say b/c of its vulgarity and others say b/c of the promoted violence. unfortunately, those who make this statement are 99% of the time only exposed to mainstream rap. artists like ludacris, chingy, snoop dogg etc. these are only the few that are fortunate to have exposure to the public. there are other rap artist such as nas, de la soul, mos def, common and other who promote a more positive outlook on this type of music.
rap, still a widely misunderstood form of music has both its negative and positive artists, as every other (for the most part) form of music.

it also deals with the realities of a life lived in the ghetto. i was and still am being raised in a more middle-upper middle class environment, therfore i don't know what it is to hear gunshots fired in the middle of the night, however i find it interesting to hear about and i understand the pain expressed through lyricist such as tupac (who is the greatest btw).

most ppl simply shrug this kind of music of because they:
1. refuse to accept life's harsh realities.
2. labels it as unimportant b/c of fear of actually, agreeing, understanding or God forbid, enjoying this kind of music.
3. just refuses to take the and understand where the musical poet/artsit is comeing from

r&b
this form of music consists of producers such as timbaland and the neptunes who take anything from a baby's cry to wind blowing and make it into music. often times these are the more complex rythms, more like a "start-and-stop-beat" (eg. aaliyah's "are you that somebody"). unfortunately many persons dismiss it and failing to actually take the time to listen.

then there are the songbirds, who use their voices as melodious instruments and bless the tracks which the producer have created. imo, the complex the song, the more you (i) listen to "get" each layer of the song. normally on each time these masterpieces are listened to the person often discovers something "hiddwn" that they hadn't heard b4 from the previous hearing. that alone is enough to make me a fan.


well ladies and gentleman, i have ALOT more to say about this particular topic but i am simply to tired/lazy to type anything else. any more comments or statements i will respond to at a later time, but for now that will have to do.
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Old 27-09-2003, 22:34   #31
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Guesshoo, i would say we a mostly criticizing the MAINSTREAM, and not so much underground. I've heard some great underground rap that had a real emotion to the flow and the beat of the words...

but it's MAINSTREAM POP, RAP, ROCK and etc that are ruining it for me and others. And because of this stuff that's being released it's becoming very hard for even me to ligitimize these kinds of "art forms" if you can even call it that.

But it's hard for me, sitting here listening to my neighboor playin "Fitty Cent" and it sounds just so.. i dunno, stereotypical.
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Old 27-09-2003, 23:12   #32
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but it's MAINSTREAM POP, RAP, ROCK and etc that are ruining it for me and others.
Yay...And how I agree with that..

1995 was the dawning of hip hop purgatory, artists became greedy, vain and mass monotony ensued. Mainstream subsequently sprouted its new form of commericialism(which kind of split off into its own market), in other words they made music that supposedely "talked" to the population of housing projects/ghetto's etc of America. Sooo many artists/record labels knew that they could sell from this and so therefore jumped on that band wagon. Being that America has alot more Urban area's than other countries, this is what made rap so popular in Amercia(for the worse) and is causing problems to the music industry(IMO).

It seems a person(i.e me LOL) can only get a select few to listen to Underground stuff. Apparently people would rather listen to something monosyllabic that they can bump in their "ride" or "indaclub", rather than something that portraits a deeper message and is actually interesting....strange people

Doesn't stop me from bumping Aesop Rock in my brothers Saxo though..Hahaha...

Sorry I just had to post a couple of cents seeing as we were talking about hip hop and how bad the mainstream is...LOL
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Old 01-10-2003, 14:29   #33
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I'm not sure if I like music by that definition, but I like to think so. But lyrics really can make a song. Take the Red Hot Chili Peppers for instance - they've got some great lyric. Sometimes, they don't really mean anything, but it's still cool. The rhyming is real interesting, the first two lines are rhymed in the middle and the end, and at one point there's four lines rhymed in a row instead of just two. This song is kind of unique in how it stops abrubtly after the last word in the lyrics - there's no guitar solo at the end, just silence.

Can't Stop
Can't stop addicted to the shin dig
Cop top he says I'm gonna win big
Choose not a life of imitation
Distant cousin to the reservation
Defunkt the pistol that you pay for
This punk the feeling that you stay for
In time I want to be your best friend
Eastside love is living on the westend
Knock out but boy you better come to
Don't die you know the truth is some do
Go write your message on the pavement
Burnin' so bright I wonder what the wave meant

White heat is screaming in the jungle
Complete the motion if you stumble
Go ask the dust for any answers
Come back strong with 50 belly dancers

[Chorus:]
The world I love
The tears I drop
To be part of
The wave can't stop
Ever wonder if it's all for you
The world I love
The trains I hop
To be part of
The wave can't stop
Come and tell me when it's time to

Sweetheart is bleeding in the snowcone
So smart she's leading me to ozone
Music the great communicator
Use two sticks to make it in the nature
I'll get you into penetration
The gender of a generation
The birth of every other nation
Worth your weight the gold of meditation
This chapter's going to be a close one
Smoke rings I know your going to blow one
All on a spaceship persevering
Use my hands for everything but steering
Can't stop the spirits when they need you
Mop tops are happy when they feed you
J. Butterfly is in the treetop
Birds that blow the meaning into bebop

[Repeat Chorus]

Wait a minute I'm passing out
Win or lose just like you
Far more shocking
Than anything i ever knew
How about you
10 more reasons
Why i need somebody new just like you
Far more shocking than anything I ever knew
Right on cue

(repeat first paragraph)

Kick start the golden generator
Sweet talk but don't intimidate her
Can't stop the gods from engineering
Feel no need for any interfering
Your image in the dictionary
This life is more than ordinary
Can I get 2 maybe even 3 of these
Come from space
To teach you of the pliedes
Can't stop the spirits when they need you
This life is more than just a read thru
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Old 01-10-2003, 14:39   #34
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ypsidan04, i <heart> that song LOL

CP's rock when it comes to lyrics...and i only started recently listening to their lyrics Used to just dig the tune.

Scar tissue is also another really good one

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Old 02-10-2003, 18:28   #35
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In one moment, I'm listening to Britney, and then, AFI, and right after, the Kronos Quartet (with compositions by Clint Mansell), a bit of Diana Krall, Nine Inch Nails, Jane's Addiction, Beyoncй, Our Lady Peace, Emma Shapplin and Infected Mushroom. I'll relax to some Chopin and flip to some Punjabi MC or Prodigy, get annoyed half to death by Chingy, but listen to him anyway and finish off with some Sarah McLachlan, or acoustics by Robert Michaels.
Emma Shapplin? Have you checked Era out ?
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Old 02-10-2003, 19:36   #36
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I'd say I love music. Whether it's in English or Russian, or any language, it's the music, the atmosphere, the emotion that gets me. I think a good song is something you can understand or get the feel of no matter the language. My music collection is all different styles and languages, and I think the creative process behind songs - the lyrics fitting with the music to create something - is amazing. I make music using computer programs, but I'm also gonna learn the guitar.

Unfortunately, a lot of people don't feel the same way. They want things they can understand, and go out and buy (or download). I can understand that, but I think people don't really explore music or challenge their taste in it. They just want what's easy and popular. I can't be like that. I like more underground stuff cuz it's more interesting. It's different. Mainstream stuff is kinda boring because, in a way, you've heard it before. I respect people who make music they like, and like to be different or creative.



I think it's obvious that music is more than record companies and CD sales. It's more personal - a collection of someone's thoughts and emotions - whether through words or instruments - and that's what you really connect with.
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Old 02-10-2003, 20:02   #37
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just thinking....

i was remembering the first time i went to my sisters band concert [back when our high school band was REALLY good] and listening to them play i got chills, and i could repress the smile on my face. i was simply moved by the music....

i look over to see tons of people...just sitting there, looking like they were wondering what time it was going to be over... yawning... seeming as if they were deaf to how good the band was... :: sigh ::

cirrus you are right... people don't explore how wonderful the whole spectum of musical styles there are.
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Old 04-10-2003, 17:27   #38
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spyretto, actually, I have checked out Era. ^_^

The often played The Mass on one of our two music TV stations here. ^_^ Thank Goodness for musical diversity in Montreal.

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