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Old 04-09-2008, 19:38   #161
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Not one. That's what's so funny about it.
Thanks Tim, I was afraid I would eventually begin to understand American elections!
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Old 10-09-2008, 06:35   #162
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Oh no! LOL

The feminist/novelty/former disillusioned republican voters do their job, apparently. And suddenly the appointment of a clueless, hypocrit like Palin doesn't seem that dumb anymore. If anything it totally hits home with her target voters.
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Old 10-09-2008, 07:55   #163
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Not one. That's what's so funny about it. She was only picked becuase she's a woman. On top of that, she has no experience with foreign policy, comes from one of the most sparsely populated states in the union, and...has a knocked up daughter for the rest of America to devour. Haha!
You know... South Dakota only has 100,000 more people in it than Alaska so you're one to talk


I find it HILARIOUS, and I do me hilarious, that Palin is the governor of one of the LARGEST (by landmass) States in the US.... Yet my tiny, tinnnnny little state of Rhode Island (the smallest state by landmass) has over TWICE the population of Palin.... So if population size of the state you are governor in, is the ONLY qualifications necessary to be a V.P candidate for the Republican ticket.... Palin is still the WORST choice because their are far more populated states in the Union with better candidates... which means she's still a Shitty choice even without considering the fact that she doesn't know anything about our Economy, Foreign Policy, or Energy Concerns (the three major issues in this election) and she's sooo far right that she's alienating all the Moderate Republicans who I might add are now jumping over to the Obama camp in massive numbers and helping him campaign door to door in battle ground states.

It doesn't matter now if Palin can rally the Fundamental Right (25% of the country, scary number) to McCain's cause... the other 75% of the country is following Obama. Hate to break the news people, but it's really the independents that decide elections, not a Political Party's base. And the independents love Obama.
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Old 10-09-2008, 07:59   #164
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You know... South Dakota only has 100,000 more people in it than Alaska so you're one to talk
But Mike Rounds isn't a running mate to one of the candidates!
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Old 10-09-2008, 12:33   #165
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Hate to break the news people, but it's really the independents that decide elections, not a Political Party's base. And the independents love Obama.
That may be true but American Independents seem to have the memory of goldfish.
Sorry but I'm expecting the worst out of this election.
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Old 11-09-2008, 06:52   #166
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You're sort of missing the point though... McCain actually took the lead from Obama! How's that for independent voters?
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Old 12-09-2008, 00:00   #167
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A video for all McCain supporters to see and understand ... and for everybody else to enjoy: A POW on McCain as a presidential candidate.
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:15   #168
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You're sort of missing the point though... McCain actually took the lead from Obama! How's that for independent voters?
Actually McCain hasn't taken the lead. At least not in the vote that counts which is the Electoral College. Here's some proof for you NY Times Electoral Map... States that have traditionally been solid Republican states are swinging or are toss up states. Ohio is currently a toss-up leaning Blue, they have 20 electoral votes (Brings Obama to 258), Michigan is leaning Blue with 17 electoral votes (which gives Obama 275), New Hampshire is leaning Blue with 4 electoral votes (Obama would have 279), Colorado is leaning Blue which has 9 electoral votes (Obama 288).... HEY! That's well over the 270 votes he needs to win.

If the election were held tomorrow, McCain would only be able to muster 250 electoral votes, guess what he looses. And that's even assuming that New Mexico, Nevada and Virginia continue on a Red Trend... But I doubt that will last long with Republicans jumping ship and joining the Obama campaign in droves daily. Not to mention the HUGE voter registration drives every bloody college campus is going to be having in the next few weeks and that demographic is overwhelmingly Democratic and behind Obama.
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:06   #169
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We will see. I just don't like the looks of Palin making McCain more trendy than he really is. Since she's been named as a potential vice president their campaign has been on an upswing and if it continues to go down that road they might still surprise on election day. Hopefully not, though. Eight years of lunacy might give people at least some common sense and prevent them from falling into the trap of small-town populism.

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Palin talks about a possible war with Russia. These are definitely not words of someone who has experience in interantional politics. Sure NATO is obligated to protect it's members but you DO NOT say something like that out loud during a tense time like this. That's the abc of diplomatic relations. That's her first "axis-of-evil" type slip-up. If she becomes the VC how many more are yet in store I wonder. :-/
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Old 20-09-2008, 18:05   #170
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Now they turn to Socialism!
What ever happened to the Free-Market Enterprise and having no government intervention... and oh, I don't know... PULLING YOURSELVES UP BY YOUR OWN FUCKING BOOTSTRAPS!!!

This is sickening.
I am sickened.

That money could have gone to Univesral Healthcare, or actually reforming the public educational system, freaking New Orleans, or even to buying out the interest of mortgagees which was actually proposed by a congressman last year but was rejected because it stood against capitalist principles.

But no, instead it'll go to the very people who lobby for no regulation which was the very cause of this credit crunch. Generations of taxpayers' money will be doled out to save the people who have rarely paid taxes via Bushes tax cuts.

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Old 21-09-2008, 04:15   #171
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Now they turn to Socialism!
What ever happened to the Free-Market Enterprise and having no government intervention... and oh, I don't know... PULLING YOURSELVES UP BY YOUR OWN FUCKING BOOTSTRAPS!!!

This is sickening.
I am sickened.

That money could have gone to Univesral Healthcare, or actually reforming the public educational system, freaking New Orleans, or even to buying out the interest of mortgagees which was actually proposed by a congressman last year but was rejected because it stood against capitalist principles.

But no, instead it'll go to the very people who lobby for no regulation which was the very cause of this credit crunch. Generations of taxpayers' money will be doled out to save the people who have rarely paid taxes via Bushes tax cuts.

Privatise Profits, Socialize Losses.
People, revolutions were started for lesser reasons.
Actually what is more disturbing than this... the fact that Governor Palin thinks she has the authority to disband the Alaska Legislature because it Subpoenaed her husband in their impeachment investigations against her. That is frighteningly similar to what Hitler did to Germany's parliament when he made himself Dictator.

But as usual, no one seems to remember that history repeats itself. If McCain wins, I am leaving this country before she takes over and tries to kill off anyone that isn't a white Christian conservative in this country. My Jewish survival skills are kicking into overdrive at the moment.
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Old 21-09-2008, 11:25   #172
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Now they turn to Socialism!
What ever happened to the Free-Market Enterprise and having no government intervention... and oh, I don't know... PULLING YOURSELVES UP BY YOUR OWN FUCKING BOOTSTRAPS!!!

This is sickening.
I am sickened.

That money could have gone to Univesral Healthcare, or actually reforming the public educational system, freaking New Orleans, or even to buying out the interest of mortgagees which was actually proposed by a congressman last year but was rejected because it stood against capitalist principles.

But no, instead it'll go to the very people who lobby for no regulation which was the very cause of this credit crunch. Generations of taxpayers' money will be doled out to save the people who have rarely paid taxes via Bushes tax cuts.

Privatise Profits, Socialize Losses.
People, revolutions were started for lesser reasons.
A direct contadiction of Adam Smith's "invisible hand" principle of liberal capitalism. And this coming from a country that is it's loudest supporter of it. If anything the government should let all these financial institutions ridden with speculative investments get washed away. Despite the fact it was the government who spawned the whole thing with it's encouragenment of speculative investments, it was Wall Street greed that took the bait. A lot of people made billions of dollars of profit, bailing in just in time before the whole thing collapsed. If the government helps these ailing giants it just gives off a signal that anything they'll do the government will come and bail them out eventually. At least they did the right thing with Lethman Brothers.

And when American consumers aren't buying the whole globla economy collapses (aside from teh EU but we have enough of our own problems - inflation being the most severe). I've lost so much money in the Brazil-Russia-China-India market sector in 2008 that my head is spinning in utter disbelief.
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Old 26-09-2008, 07:21   #173
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Old 13-10-2008, 21:58   #174
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Here's the latest polling from pollster.com, the race is pretty much over if a conservative leaning source has Obama nearly 10 points ahead of McCain. And traditionally red states are now up for grabs... We'll be cheering President Obama soon enough.

In the Senate and Congressional races, Democrats are poised to win a Filibuster proof 60 seat majority, and gain another 20-30 seats in the House of Reps.

I'm so excited, I'm not sure what to do with myself. We're in another political playing field shift like 60 years ago it looks like. Really North Carolina is leaning blue people, along with West Virginia and Indiana?? WTF?
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What I don't get is that Georgia is still massively on McCain's side, eventhough it's a country with a big presence of coloured people. One would think black people would vote for their own guy.

McCain is making a few last ditch efforts, to promote his potenial as the messiah who'll save the flagging economy, with populist statements like promising to cut all public spending for anno domini 2009.
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What I don't get is that Georgia is still massively on McCain's side, eventhough it's a country with a big presence of coloured people. One would think black people would vote for their own guy.

McCain is making a few last ditch efforts, to promote his potenial as the messiah who'll save the flagging economy, with populist statements like promising to cut all public spending for anno domini 2009.
yeah, but no one believes him so it won't work. The NY Times and CNN are both calling the election in favor of Obama... The only thing left to worry about is the Bradley Effect... but if donations are any indication, I don't think the Bradley Effect with cause to many upsets in this election.
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OBAMA WON!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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