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31-05-2006, 21:36 | #1 | |
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Dutch political party supporting child sexual freedom and pedophilia
I found this article on Slovene national TV's website.
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Though I found a small promo advert in english as well: Naastenliefde, Vrijheid & Diversiteit (NVD, Dutch for “Neighborly Love, Freedom, and Diversity”) is a new political party in the Netherlands launching on May 31, 2006. The founders are Ad van den Berg, Norbert de Jonge, and Marthijn Uittenbogaard. The party platform includes lowering the age of sexual consent to 12 and eventually eliminating it, lowering the voting age to 12, granting many other social rights to children as young as 12, permitting public nudity, legalizing hard drugs for people 16 or older and soft drugs for people 12 and older, and comprehensive animal rights. So what do you think guys? Strangers with candy? |
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31-05-2006, 21:57 | #2 | |
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31-05-2006, 22:08 | #3 |
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So many party's are being established every year here.. Doesn't mean they'll actually survive..
What can I say - yes, besides the fabulous me, we also have total opposites living here, complete morons so to speak |
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31-05-2006, 22:28 | #4 |
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Looks like they'll join the ranks of NAMBLA, the North American Man/boy Love Association.
Although the whole thing is sick, their logo cracks me up. |
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31-05-2006, 23:12 | #5 |
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01-06-2006, 20:32 | #6 | ||
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02-06-2006, 10:00 | #7 | |
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Well , I try to explain myself. If someone feels unbeatable, unstoppable surge of sexual desire towards the children , to the point that he feels that everything goes out of hand , that he cannot control himself anymore and the next step all hell breaks loose : he /she could hurt the kid ( insert here anything that you like : touching the kid in that way , raping , talking to little boys and girls nasty lustful things with showing them porn and asking to try promising sweet candy for that to gullible little fools etc) . In that case , person has all the rights to seek medical help. What kind of help ? It’s not for me to decide , it depends of severity of the case I suppose. Drug them , sedate , control the hormone balance of his body with medication , lock them in the medical institution ..I don’t know . And frankly , I don’t want to know . What I want to is to feel safe and that children will be out of danger. |
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02-06-2006, 12:03 | #8 | |
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The question is not whether we're to allow adults to have sex with children but on the other hand it's debatable whether a person under the age of majority at the age of 16 or 17 is a child ( certainly not anatomically or psychologically as they're very much sexually aware and most of them sexually active ). Still legally they're considered "children". The most hypocritical society on the planet - won't say which one that is -treats number 18 as a magical number where suddenly once a person passes that age everything becomes normal, but before everything is forbidden - as if you can flick a switch and suddenly become an adult with everything that can entail. But this is such a grey area when the age of consent ( even in that society ) is 16 and over. So what happens when you're between 16 and 18 years old? You're sexually considered an adult but legally you're not. Nevertheless, I can't see how a party would advocate a case of people under the age of consent to have sex and treat it as a "right" for them when they're both unaccountable for their own actions and also under the age where experts think that a person can safely be in a sexual relationship ( not that it's not happening of course ). As nath pointed out a child is unable to cope with the psychological burden of that as they're forming their own personality. That's why most people who end up becoming pornographic actors come from backgrounds where they were sexually abused in childhood. So it may be considered a right for the adult individual who engages in sexual acts with an underage person but it's certainly not a right for the underage person themselves. |
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02-06-2006, 15:18 | #9 | ||
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I think there are many pedophile persons that are peaceful citizens who'd never think about doing any harm to a child. It's not like all hetero sexual men who see good looking women simply have to rape them. Quote:
And also, I don't think the women are treated as objects any more than men in porno movies. Again you have different kinds of fetishes and so on. You'll see both men and women being the master, and both sexes will be the sub ... an object. I'm no expert on the area and I'm not saying all women in the porno industry are treated nicely, but I do think it's somewhat of a myth that porn actresses are being used and treated badly. They are all filthy rich and they most probably do what they like. Or else they wouldn't have done it. I'm convinced that they have a choice. (At least in the american porno industry which is laaarge and where everyone is stuffed with money) When it comes to having "kids" playing in porn movies --- as long as the law have a legal age of ... 18 or whatever, then of course kids shouldn't be allowed to play in porn movies. I'm only saying that maybe this "legal" age should perhaps be lowered or even abolished, having a whole new system where you get some rights along the way, and not all of them at one age... but that's a whole new different subject tho. Hehehe. Either way, I disagree with this party's policy. They are simply too extreme and frankly kinda ignorant. As I said, the only good thing they wanted was to legalize all drugs |
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02-06-2006, 15:32 | #10 |
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According to the Constitution, you have a right to establish any party. If the actions will lead to propaganda of nationalism, racism, etc. - those are prohibited by a current law, then it becomes a legal case. Any party may suggest changes in the law of own country. So legally it's all ok. Another thing is how people use own Constitution and Law. As we see, there's no support of such a party generally and even more than 66% of people think that the party should be banned. Such bizarre things pop up now and then but disappear almost at once.
My personal view is another story here. I personally think that you can't allow everything. A society needs rules accepted by its members, otherwise there won't be any society. The idea looks very much criminal to me too. Crazy bunch of lunatics. |
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02-06-2006, 21:27 | #11 | |
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