USA - General discussion (Part 2)

[Khartoun2004]

Originally Posted by haku

Some comic relief, and the retard leads the most powerful country in the world. (Thanks Rach for the link )

That's hilarious Haku. Thanks for the link Rachel I still can't wrap my brain around how that moron got into office... can we talk about "ROGUE" courts??

[freddie]

Originally Posted by haku

Anyway, what i meant is that most democrat politicians who are considered 'left' in the US would end up in center right parties in Europe (and most republicans would end up in extreme right parties), European socialist parties (what is called 'left' here) have no equivalent in the US.)

The labour party, maybe.

Originally Posted by haku

Some comic relief, and the retard leads the most powerful country in the world. (Thanks Rach for the link

That was great.
I actually don't think Bush is as dumb as some think - people in this clip made some good points - he's not rhetoric savvy, but at the same time he's no Britney Spears either. Of course he's not qualified to be the president of ANYTHING, but that's far from labeling him as stupid. The man did graduate from Yale after all (presuming he didn't breeze through the classes hiding in his dad's pocket).

[Amy_Lee_Rocks]

I dont understand this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV_16PdWnBo

[PowerPuff Grrl]

POPOV35 and 36 are two pilots that identified a convoy on the ground. Hotel Manilla is the on the ground giving orders to the pilots to shoot the convoy. The one of the pilots sees that there are orange panels on either side of the convoy indicating that the convoy may be a group of "friendlies" i.e. allies. The British ally's missiles are usually orange. The one pilot repeatedly asks for Hotel Manilla to confirm that there are no friendlies on the ground and Hotel Manilla repeatedly confirms that there are none.

The pilots bomb the convoy and immediately afterwards "Lightening" informs them that there are friendlies on the ground. (I have no idea what or who "Lightening" is.) Hotel Manilla then states that there were in fact friendlies down there.

Part 2 of the tape, pretty much of the pilots saying "fuck," "Goddamn it," and "I think I'm going to be sick" and some pretty heavy breathing.

It's all really disturbing.

[Amy_Lee_Rocks]

Originally Posted by PowerPuff Grrl

POPOV35 and 36 are two pilots that identified a convoy on the ground. Hotel Manilla is the on the ground giving orders to the pilots to shoot the convoy. The one of the pilots sees that there are orange panels on either side of the convoy indicating that the convoy may be a group of "friendlies" i.e. allies. The British ally's missiles are usually orange. The one pilot repeatedly asks for Hotel Manilla to confirm that there are no friendlies on the ground and Hotel Manilla repeatedly confirms that there are none.

The pilots bomb the convoy and immediately afterwards "Lightening" informs them that there are friendlies on the ground. (I have no idea what or who "Lightening" is.) Hotel Manilla then states that there were in fact friendlies down there.

Part 2 of the tape, pretty much of the pilots saying "fuck," "Goddamn it," and "I think I'm going to be sick" and some pretty heavy breathing.

It's all really disturbing.

So in other words, that guy killed his own buddy?
Yeah, i think it is pretty disturbing. I was just confused..i guess
i wasnt paying much attention

[PowerPuff Grrl]

Originally Posted by Amy_Lee_Rocks

So in other words, that guy killed his own buddy?

Buddy as in the British soldiers on the ground who were mistaken for being Iraqi insurgents. Not buddy as in the other pilot.

[haku]

US appeal court confirms that it is alright to detain people indefinitely without charges or trial in the Guantanamo concentration camp.

[forre]

A bit offtop here but since it's the USA General thread, I thought to add a few general comments. Sorry for being absent - right, I was in the States to check how the life is.

1. Everything works in this country. It just works. Whenever you've got a problem, people are generally very helpful and they won't ask you for a penny as for instance in Egypt or similar countries.

2. Americans are neither blind nor dumb. They perfectly understand what faults the country has and what can be better. They admit that there's a lot of fraud in big politics and they wished it could be the other way round.

3. People are polite and well behaved. I've spent 2 days in a big city of NYC visiting some weird places as China Town and Brighton Beach and still felt very safe. I'm sure criminals are doing exactly the same thing as in Europe but generally you don't feel threatened from any side.

4. Of course, being a tourist in a country and living there are 2 different things, that's why I payed attention to what my friends said. Basically, apart from a very expensive medicine and not a very sufficient social security, everything else is just as good or better that in Europe. One more thing - I haven't seen as many beggars in NYC as here in Paris.

[Talyubittu]

Originally Posted by forre

A bit offtop here but since it's the USA General thread, I thought to add a few general comments. Sorry for being absent - right, I was in the States to check how the life is.

1. Everything works in this country. It just works. Whenever you've got a problem, people are generally very helpful and they won't ask you for a penny as for instance in Egypt or similar countries.

2. Americans are neither blind nor dumb. They perfectly understand what faults the country has and what can be better. They admit that there's a lot of fraud in big politics and they wished it could be the other way round.

3. People are polite and well behaved. I've spent 2 days in a big city of NYC visiting some weird places as China Town and Brighton Beach and still felt very safe. I'm sure criminals are doing exactly the same thing as in Europe but generally you don't feel threatened from any side.

4. Of course, being a tourist in a country and living there are 2 different things, that's why I payed attention to what my friends said. Basically, apart from a very expensive medicine and not a very sufficient social security, everything else is just as good or better that in Europe. One more thing - I haven't seen as many beggars in NYC as here in Paris.

Thanks for the report forre! America's a great place to live! I love living here, it's not as cultural as I would like but I generally do feel safe and well cared for by my country. I'm glad you pointed out that we're not all stupid and rude like many think . I am glad you enjoyed your visit to my country.

[Amy_Lee_Rocks]

Originally Posted by forre

A bit offtop here but since it's the USA General thread, I thought to add a few general comments. Sorry for being absent - right, I was in the States to check how the life is.

1. Everything works in this country. It just works. Whenever you've got a problem, people are generally very helpful and they won't ask you for a penny as for instance in Egypt or similar countries.

2. Americans are neither blind nor dumb. They perfectly understand what faults the country has and what can be better. They admit that there's a lot of fraud in big politics and they wished it could be the other way round.

3. People are polite and well behaved. I've spent 2 days in a big city of NYC visiting some weird places as China Town and Brighton Beach and still felt very safe. I'm sure criminals are doing exactly the same thing as in Europe but generally you don't feel threatened from any side.

4. Of course, being a tourist in a country and living there are 2 different things, that's why I payed attention to what my friends said. Basically, apart from a very expensive medicine and not a very sufficient social security, everything else is just as good or better that in Europe. One more thing - I haven't seen as many beggars in NYC as here in Paris.

hmmm, i dont know but i dont think you can judge a whole country just by goung to 1 place. You'd have to go to at least every major city to know the U.S well.

[coolasfcuk]

Originally Posted by Amy_Lee_Rocks

hmmm, i dont know but i dont think you can judge a whole country just by goung to 1 place. You'd have to go to at least every major city to know the U.S well.

what false statement!

[Amy_Lee_Rocks]

Originally Posted by coolasfcuk

< So Adorable!!!

what false statement!

Originally Posted by coolasfcuk

when are you coming? come visit MEEEE

this is so fucking ridiculous - how many times do we have to say that being in different states in america is like being in a different country!
and please, stop presenting South Dakota as something great - i am sorry, but for the main part it is a big, steaming, pile of SHIT! and i am saying that from personal experience, i am probably the only other person here that has actually been there

< This is so fetch!

Not everyone is friendly, if you come down here to Texas you'll find that alot of people can be donkey holes. I do agree that most people can be friendly, and i dont know about the people who beg for money, but not every place is friendly.
In New York City you might not feel threatened but places like Dallas you cant go out
alone. I havent been to New York yet, so i dont know what its like. But i've been to Dallas Houston, Autin, Oklahoma City, and Alburquerque. Honestly I felt more safe in Alburquerque.
Alot of people here are racist.

Correct me if Im wrong..hardly doubt im wrong about Dallas being dangerous.
< this is so cute

[Talyubittu]

Originally Posted by Amy_Lee_Rocks

< This is so fetch!

Not everyone is friendly, if you come down here to Texas you'll find that alot of people can be donkey holes. I do agree that most people can be friendly, and i dont know about the people who beg for money, but not every place is friendly.
In New York City you might not feel threatened but places like Dallas you cant go out
alone. I havent been to New York yet, so i dont know what its like. But i've been to Dallas Houston, Autin, Oklahoma City, and Alburquerque. Honestly I felt more safe in Alburquerque.
Alot of people here are racist.

Correct me if Im wrong..hardly doubt im wrong about Dallas being dangerous.
< this is so cute

LMAO! I love you Yoshi.

Honestly - there isn't much difference in people from state to state other than their day to day activity. A lot of people have the same viewpoints and all. It's not like jumping from country to country at all. If you were in a room full of 100 people you didn't know and someone told you they were all from new york and they really weren't, you wouldn't be able to tell based on their personalities and viewpoints that they weren't. I do have to agree with Yos here a bit though at the same time I'm disagreeing. Many Americans find New Yorkers to be rude just becuase of the fast paced lifestyle they live, not becuase they're actually rude. It's just that they are always rushing. If you can handle being in New York, you can handle anywhere in the U.S.A. You should see more of it Try visiting some of the midwestern cities like Chicago, Denver or Minneapolis. Minneapolis is one of the nicest cities in America in my oppinion.

[Amy_Lee_Rocks]

Originally Posted by Talyubittu

LMAO! I love you Yoshi.

Honestly - there isn't much difference in people from state to state other than their day to day activity. A lot of people have the same viewpoints and all. It's not like jumping from country to country at all. If you were in a room full of 100 people you didn't know and someone told you they were all from new york and they really weren't, you wouldn't be able to tell based on their personalities and viewpoints that they weren't. I do have to agree with Yos here a bit though at the same time I'm disagreeing. Many Americans find New Yorkers to be rude just becuase of the fast paced lifestyle they live, not becuase they're actually rude. It's just that they are always rushing. If you can handle being in New York, you can handle anywhere in the U.S.A. You should see more of it Try visiting some of the midwestern cities like Chicago, Denver or Minneapolis. Minneapolis is one of the nicest cities in America in my oppinion.

Will do so, my brother is moving to Chicago in May to finish his Doctorate Degree in Metalurgical Engineering, so ill be visiting him.

[coolasfcuk]

oh my GOD! couple of teens presenting the American view... wonderful!
thanks for quoting me twice, but i think its not gonna work - i was rollnig my eyes becuase going to every major city in the US is still not going to give you a complete understanding of the country - i mean, your friend's S.D. world for example...
and that statement up there that people in all states are the same ... i mean, at this point it isnt even annoying anymore, it is more like HUMOR! i mean
actually, i am glad you guys are posting here, its like a REAL TRUE representatoin of the views of mid-west/Texas (excluding Austin, since its a non-texas town in texas) teens

[Talyubittu]

Forre obviously see's it as a nice place. I don't see why you need to get all worked up over it. The mid-west contributes tons to America, just because it isn't your cup of tea does not mean it's worthless.

Have you been to minneapolis before Yosimar? Chicago is beautiful...especially at night.

[Khartoun2004]

Originally Posted by Talyubittu

. If you were in a room full of 100 people you didn't know and someone told you they were all from new york and they really weren't, you wouldn't be able to tell based on their personalities and viewpoints that they weren't.

umm... I have to disagree with you to a certain extent. If a person from the South walked up to me and said they were from NY or anywhere other than the South really, I would know right off the bat that they were lying. Each state and even regions/cities have different accents. A Boston Accent sounds Nothing like a New York accent or even a Rhode Island accent and NY is only 3.5 hours away and RI only 30 minutes away.

I don't mean to sound like a prick, but your statement is way to generalized and factually incorrect. Regional Differences are quite noticable. Southerns piss me the hell off because they do everything from speaking to driving way to effing slow for my Northeastern Tastes and I'm sure I piss off Southerns for talking and driving way to effing fast. I'm over being a bit to general but I'm to lazy to write a whole essay on the differences of the States in the US.

Many Americans find New Yorkers to be rude just becuase of the fast paced lifestyle they live, not becuase they're actually rude. It's just that they are always rushing...

Are you joking? We are fucking rude , but not to be mean. I was actually talking to my friend from North Carolina about this the other day. New Yorkers (or Northeasterns in general) will tell you to your face when you are pissing them off. It's a cultural brutal honesty and obligation to state things as the way they are. It's considered to be more rude and cowardly to not tell a person to their face that you dislike something they are doing. In the South or Midwest even people just smile and "ACT" like everything is fine and dandy, then turn around five minutes later and bitch to the entire town about something as trivial as "That bastard stole my parking place".

I personally would prefer to deal with issues I have with another person face to face then talk shit about them to the whole fucking world. But that's just another one of those many cultural differences found within the US.

[Talyubittu]

Originally Posted by Khartoun2004

umm... I have to disagree with you to a certain extent. If a person from the South walked up to me and said they were from NY or anywhere other than the South really, I would know right off the bat that they were lying. Each state and even regions/cities have different accents. A Boston Accent sounds Nothing like a New York accent or even a Rhode Island accent and NY is only 3.5 hours away and RI only 30 minutes away.

I don't mean to sound like a prick, but your statement is way to generalized and factually incorrect. Regional Differences are quite noticable. Southerns piss me the hell off because they do everything from speaking to driving way to effing slow for my Northeastern Tastes and I'm sure I piss off Southerns for talking and driving way to effing fast. I'm over being a bit to general but I'm to lazy to write a whole essay on the differences of the States in the US.




Are you joking? We are fucking rude , but not to be mean. I was actually talking to my friend from North Carolina about this the other day. New Yorkers (or Northeasterns in general) will tell you to your face when you are pissing them off. It's a cultural brutal honesty and obligation to state things as the way they are. It's considered to be more rude and cowardly to not tell a person to their face that you dislike something they are doing. In the South or Midwest even people just smile and "ACT" like everything is fine and dandy, then turn around five minutes later and bitch to the entire town about something as trivial as "That bastard stole my parking place".

I personally would prefer to deal with issues I have with another person face to face then talk shit about them to the whole fucking world. But that's just another one of those many cultural differences found within the US.

Well before you write me another essay - I should explain that I figured people would understand that my statement was a statement on their personalities, not their accents. That is why I said "Based, on, their, vew, points"

I doubt you've lived in the South/Midwest as well - becuase that is definately not how it is. Anytime anybody has anything to say, it is said. Thats a large generalization that all people who aren't from the north east just let problems slide by and then bitch about them later.

[Amy_Lee_Rocks]

Originally Posted by coolasfcuk

oh my GOD! couple of teens presenting the American view... wonderful!
thanks for quoting me twice, but i think its not gonna work - i was rollnig my eyes becuase going to every major city in the US is still not going to give you a complete understanding of the country - i mean, your friend's S.D. world for example...
and that statement up there that people in all states are the same ... i mean, at this point it isnt even annoying anymore, it is more like HUMOR! i mean
actually, i am glad you guys are posting here, its like a REAL TRUE representatoin of the views of mid-west/Texas (excluding Austin, since its a non-texas town in texas) teens

I said cities because they are the ones with the highest populations.
Places that are not cities are usually the most friendly among themselves.
Austin is not a town, its a city, the Capital of Texas..

[Amy_Lee_Rocks]

Sorry for double post..
But, i find it funny how Bush had alot of guards
when he went to Mexico, i think it was today or something..
But i dont understand why, if the last time he went he didnt have
that..