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On the other hand, if the group goes on and they keep hugging and touching each other all the time for the cameras or in their concerts, it'll be a little ridiculous. |
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Those kisses were carrying strong emotions and a message, everything is gone now, all that remains is a cheap way to attract attention. I can't even watch the old kisses now, they feel empty and vain, all the beautiful emotions have disappeared. |
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24-02-2004, 17:32 | #164 | |
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Concerning the kiss - they didn't kiss during the 2nd concert in Tokyo and still it was obvious that they were close. |
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25-02-2004, 02:42 | #165 | |
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25-02-2004, 03:33 | #166 |
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bpro50, i was disagreeing with Haku.
I don't think [and never really thought] that they are lesbians, but i thought and think that they meant something when they kissed, not for themeselves but for others. Even IF it wasn't intentional, it represented something much more. They are actresses. Actresses have kissed each other with as much emotional and angst in the past... and they represented something for the characters. And no matter what, that song is about those emotions, and the girls sing and do whatever they can to get those emotions across. So, i wouldn't mind. But, bpro50... i hope you still don't think that they are, cause, i wouldn't live in denial [just live like Denial, cause she rocks!] and i've been watching those videos for nearly 2 years... i don't think i need a Refresher... |
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25-02-2004, 05:40 | #167 |
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actresses: that's how i felt thegurgi Y&L were playing parts, which didn't make it any more fake than a move. They were characters who played in a relationship. What I think is funny is how the West was unable to combine the idea of "acting" into the music world. Here, so many people criticize someone for being fake, not genuine, a creation. But in a time when image matters so much, it's just taking the truth and not altering it....but recreating it into a new reality....like a movie. To say Yulia and Lena were acting is a very accurate statement.....they made something, a very creative effort, and all people had to do was take it or leave it. As soon as people took it too seriously, it became a problem.
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25-02-2004, 06:02 | #168 |
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I know that what you're saying is the truth and the right way to see things... actresses playing a part, yes. I was only talking about what *i* am feeling, or not feeling that is. I am no longer able to connect with their acting, but maybe with time i'll see things like you. And cirrus Well, everything is so fake here in the west, all bands are fabricated. I guess that when we saw that band coming from the east, some of us hoped that it would be rawer, more genuine, not tainted by the music industry... Oh well, the illusion lasted a year for some of us, it's not that bad. But yeah, in the end they are like western pop bands, no real difference. Ooh and happy 666th post! *evil grin* |
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25-02-2004, 07:02 | #169 |
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haku, I disagree that they are like western pop bands. *shakes head vehemently*
There *is* a difference. Always was and always will be. |
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25-02-2004, 17:48 | #170 | |
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25-02-2004, 18:09 | #171 | |
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Yulia: "We are always the same: at home, on the stage, and when we are together. I often read in newpapers that Vanya (Ivan Shapovalov, t.A.T.u.'s producer) makes us kiss on the stage, sing about lesbian love, and then we cry quietly in the dressing room, cursing our fate. It's bull sh*t. We are the way you see us." (Molotok 2/2004) xena225 |
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Ambiguous because when they perform ATTSS on stage, they are playing the roles of two lesbian lovers. By saying that they are the same off stage, they continue to hint that it may also be the case in their real lives. Meaningless because we have now overwhelming proofs that they *are* different off stage. Those statements have become just plain ridiculous. Quote:
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Too bad Yulia and Lena are not together at home... or anywhere besides where they have to be because of work ! And lately, as we see in this episode, they arent together that much even for work when they have to LoL ...besides Ivan doesnt have to make them kiss anymore..... Ivan cant do anything anymore LoL ... besides to tell you 'great philosophical thoughts' .. such as: a person wants to understand? what understand.... and how does he know that he understands that he wants to understand... why understand.... he doesnt understand that he wants to understand... what is there to undnerstand.... there is no future... and there is no past..... do you understand? ...but yes.... they are the 'way you want to see them' .... |
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25-02-2004, 20:45 | #174 |
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really Im always suprised the way some of you guys can interpret things in the for me most illogical way *shakes head* this is starting to be sad..very sad. honestly I never in ATTSS noticed that its about lesbian lovers. I could have sung that with my best friend and we never were a couple. *lol* haku, honestly I'm *very* suprised to hear such an generalising cruel remark from you. This really makes me hope that Ill never get on the wrong side of you, which is a scary thought. |
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"We're the same on the stage and at home" - yeah, at home Yulia fcuks her boyfriend and cuts his nails, and on the stage she hugs Lena, holds her hand and kisses her - pretty similar "Oh well"... |
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26-02-2004, 02:25 | #178 |
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Quite the predicament they are in i c *strokes beard pensively* yesssssssss
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I am not sure what to say anymore ..... what 'neat' theories (not to mention the work neat just drives me nuts) .... what quote .... did you get recite that Yulia said that? when did she say it? Im sorry im gonna stick to this "quote" from Yulia for a while longer: Quote:
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