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OK I won't reply to anyone. There's WAY to much replying going on around here and I get confused.
The basic dispute here seems to be wheter the Iraqe people themselves consider the fundamentalist as legitimate freedom fighters or not. My opinion is that they don't. Maybe they have then the fight was still sitiated on the battle-grounds, but now when they're starting to behead inocent civilians... no civilized human being, doesn't matter if his family was killed, his country invaded or freedom taken would EVER approve of something as hideous as the fundamentalists are doing. Furthermore I do belive that Iraqis are stupid. They KNOW what awaits for them if the fundamentalists take power. Maybe it'd be even worse than Sadams regime. We could have another Afghanistan on our hands. Despite of their hatred towards America or Christians they have to think about their own well-being first. And I don't belive the majority in Iraq thinks they'd be better of under the extremist Islamic regime. Especialy since Iraq has a large Christian popultion which would be DOOMED under such a regime (Sadams regime wasn't radical islamist in it's nature. I think Osama Bin Laden even labeled him as "an infidel".) The answer to the question why Iraqis don't expose the radical groups and give leads to the US soldiers (I bet they do, but not as often as one'd like), might be in the fact that they are simply intimidated. The groups might as well have local people living under a constant fear of immediate execution at slightest suspicion of treason. 2 Iraqis were accused of giving out information to the US sources and were beheaded in the usual manner and their videos put online. For future intimidation. Very effective I'd say. It's the same reason for which no one wants to testify against the mafia. |
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Today is not a day to argue with me, dear ... so maybe it was about time i also said it to you... like others have.... just because you come from an educated family doesnt make you a genius, yeah? it is not the thing that is going to make me 'WOW' and respect you tremendously, and take anything you say as a very educated opinion - is that what you expect... because why else remind us every 5th day about it....we've read your comments x amount of times ... and even though most of the time i do feel bad about how insecure you are, it does reach a boiling pont, and you should be reminded to step down from your cloud. - that of course having nothing to do with the topic in here... but i just felt it was about time I said it out loud... for that, a mod's duty... coolasfcuk: 1 warning |
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i've always believed in peoples right to debate... but usually when i feel it's going to lead to something or change something. But in this case, this whole topic seems to be getting more and more closer to something completely inane. I read every comment here, and as probably one of the few born americans speaking on this thread (as far as i can assume)... they just anger me. None of it seems very educated cause they only go by the statute of "i read, or heard or saw" which i don't think is very filled with wisdom (cause you can't really trust the media). In fact, nothing said has come from any bit of that (haha, and neither is this)... all i'm saying, is maybe we should talk about, the ELECTION or maybe the issues that are driving the voting patterns of the people who will be voting. and may i just say that "the war" isn't the biggest issue. It's the economy and jobs.
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Well, the people outside the States aren't the ones voting for. We're going to vote for our own well being. We don't really want to be in this war either, but we also want to keep our jobs.
To me, as well, science is the issue for me, i'm voting for social issues, not economic. Stem Cell, Abortion, Gay Stuff, the rights of, you know, people. Just have faith in the people to do the right thing. Those voting for the economy will probably vote for Bush, but those who are voting for social reasons will most likely vote for Kerry. It's as simple as that. |
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So, if Americans are the ones who are voting, it's pointless for others to talk about it? So Americans can even invade a country and tell them how to create a society, but we should just watch the whole thing silently and shut up? Do you think this is strictly America's business? Unfortunately, it is not. It is a World issue. |
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Global Vote 2004 Basically a way for people outside the US to voice their opinion on the election to the American public, which will learn of how this vote went 48 hours prior to the election here. |
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ypsidan04, thanks. I voted! No need to guess for whom.
Interview with Eminem, if any of you are interested. It's about his anti-Bush song. Lol. Eminem Slams Bush Source: RollingStones RS: You get deep into your feelings about President Bush and Iraq on “Mosh.” Do you think the Iraq War was a mistake? E: He’s been painted to be this hero and he’s got our troops over there dying for no reason. I haven’t heard an explanation yet that I can understand. Explain to us why we have troops over there dying. RS: There is no good answer. E: I think he started a mess. America is the best country there is, the best country to live in. But he’s f**kin’ that up and could run our country into the ground. He jumped the gun, and he f**ked up so bad he doesn’t know what to do right now. He’s in a tailspin, running around like a dog chasing its tail. And we got young people over there dyin’, kids in their teens, early twenties that should have futures ahead of them. And for what? It seems like a Vietnam 2. Bin Laden attacked us and we attacked Saddam. We ain’t heard from Saddam for ten years, but we go attack Saddam. Explain why that is. Give us some answers. RS: Are you voting? E: This is the first year I’ve registered to vote. And I’m gonna vote. Bush is definitely not my homie, but I’m still undecided. Kerry has been known to say some things that’s caught my attention, made a few statements I’ve liked, but I don’t know. Whatever my decision is, I would like to see Bush out of office. I don’t wanna see my little brother get drafted. He just turned eighteen. I don’t want to see him lose his life. People think their votes don’t count, but people need to get out and vote. Every motherf**kin’ vote counts. RollingStones interview with John Kerry, HERE: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/_/id/6562106 |
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