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Not ALL muslims are like that. I'm guessing the shia (?) muslims are more conservative, it's usually shia (? again, lol) women who wear cloths over their whole bodies, also convering their eyes. But the sunni muslims are less.. eh.. I don't know how to explain it, but from what I've learned they're basically a *bit* more open-minded, where the women have more rights (and are actually allowed to drive etc.). At least that's what I've learned from my muslim friends who are all sunni. (Besides the politics and history of course, I know nothing about that! Just the 'modern' muslims) Most of them don't pray, they don't even know how to pray, haha, but yes some of them do sometimes. One of them does it 5 times a day I believe. I don't mean to offend, but I'm glad I'm not a muslim. Glad I'm not a christian either. Don't really see the point of being part of a religion as they're all corrupted and have slipped away from their original goals (peace on earth, love, equality). |
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But they never do ! Because they know only too well that they never have in a million years such a life at home . Could you picture them standing on the street back home ,protesting something and a few feets away the police busy with the parking lot?? And as for UK police ...what do you want them to do ? Honestly ? Beat them ? gas them ? lock them in prison ? That is not a police fault that country is too soft and kind, to give bread and roof and better chance in life and then being bitten on a hand which feed them ! Send them packing I say ! |
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Europeans who visit or go to work in Muslim countries are required to respect Islamic rules to the letter, but Muslims living in Europe not only refuse to understand and respect our values and laws but they actually want to impose Islamic rules to all Europeans by limiting our freedom of expression in areas that they consider 'sacred', which is of course absolutely unacceptable for Europeans. Europeans have fought hard to acquire that freedom, we have fought against absolute monarchies, the Christian church, and all kinds of fascist regimes, and we are not about to let another religion take that away and dictate what we should or should not do, should or should not say in our own countries. And if Muslims living in Europe really can't stand to live in countries where freedom of expression exists and where religion can be criticized because it doesn't hold any special status, then they can simply go back to Muslim countries where Islamic rule prevails and freedom is inexistent, and have a happy life over there. |
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07-02-2006, 14:19 | #86 |
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I do believe there are loads of tolerant Muslims out there - in Arab countries as well as in the West. The problem though is in the fact, they're too lethargic when their religion is REALLY being mocked - like when extremists take to the streets holding up banners carrying racial slurs pointend against anything non-Muslim. THAT'S the real mockery. Anyone who trully believes in Islam should distance themselves from ignorant people like that.
I also believe that European leaders condemning these cartoons as well as network stations like CNN censoring them, when shown on the screen, is a huge mistake. They're giving up on the freedom of speech - a value we treasure in Europe for centuries - too easily. And who are they giving it up for? Moderate, reasonable Muslims? Nope. Extremists. Madmen. I find that extremely sad. We'd trade one of our basic rights because of fear. |
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you are fucking wrong,man.its called absoulte insult.they should have thought before they did wirte something.God didnt give us brains just not to think. |
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07-02-2006, 15:43 | #89 | |
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Have YOU thought about it? What if NOTHING happens? That's gonna be fun for you, who wasted your whole life praying 90% of the time. |
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07-02-2006, 15:44 | #90 |
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07-02-2006, 15:54 | #91 | |
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you all better try to respect my and millions of people's beliefs and not misunderstand me.i used to respect your choices(do you understand?if not,i can tell it),and i am waiting the same from you |
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fanoff, give it a rest, you're just making a fool of yourself and looking like a total fanatic.
Obviously for you Islam is the only religion and the only truth, and you are totally intolerant of anything else, you're not even willing one second to consider that there are people with other beliefs and that some people don't believe in any gods, your comment that people who do not believe will go to hell speak for itself. So much intolerance in someone that young, that's just sad. Quote:
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personally, i dont agree with the cartoons. i believe whoever published them knew it would incite the sort of chaos thats now happening.
i dont agree with muslims issuing death threats and causing as much damage as they are in retaliation. in fact all theyre doing is proving the morons who published the cartoons in the first place, right about islam and muslims. this is sad. islam is a religion of peace. too bad about the way its being portrayed by some groups of people. for the record, my feeling is that islam is still a younger religion than christianity for example. but some pockets of muslims are not the only ones being stupid in the name of religion. it happens in other religions too. think about doctors who perform abortions who then get killed by fanatical christian anti-abortionists. its not limited to one religion. and hey, thats done in the name of god too. and yes, thats also horrible and misguided. i found the cartoons pointless, unless all they were trying to do was incite a few riots cause hey, all muslims are the same arent they ? well newsflash, all of us muslims arent the same. i believe in constitutional rights and everything else but if i wanted to get really childish, i could say the riots and burning of buildings is just another form of freedom of expression. im not going to be childish though. i think both sides are wrong. |
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im explainin it for the first time.one time i decided that theres no god but tried to think objectively,then understood the truth by myself.noone told me what to do.i said i dont care about people's beliefs or anything else.i learned to be tolerant to people but if they are using this against me,its the point that i get mad.and youre intoleant to me(about The Eu thing)you dont see how Turkey's changing.just say what you think,by not realising the truth |
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i do wish different cultures would try to integrate more. its happened here in cape town where you have huge groups of different cultures intermingling, not keeping to themselves and actually just integrating so well that lots of people just get along. you still get the ones who refuse to try, but theyre in the minority. i think the viewpoint of the people emigrating to different european countries is that "this is the country that took so much away from my country by force, i will go there for a better life, while clinging desperately to a way of life that has been a part of my family and culture for generations" they want better lives, but they want it on their terms. but yes, integration is key if we're all gonna try and get along with each other. |
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rosh,good point!!
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Being called gay is not an insult, just as being called straight isn't. Fucking grow up!!! |
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isnt it intolerant?do i know wrong?intollerant,not sure about it.i know its not an insult,i think theres a misunderstanding here,i said called you gay in an insulting way?i hope you did understand.
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