Eurovision 2006

[Rachel]

Simon, I liked the song a lot. I don't think it was shit. Just not the kind of material for Eurovision.

[simon]

Originally Posted by haku

Honestly, i think the UK and Ireland send the worst songs they can find on purpose because they don't want to have to spend any money on organizing the next show if they won. Anyone remember that 'Father Ted' episode (an Irish show) made at the time when Ireland won Eurovision three times in a row? In that episode Irish officials were looking for the worst act possible for the following year so they would finally *lose* because organizing Eurovison 3 times in a row was costing the country too much money.
It was a joke, but i'm thinking it may not be so far from the truth.

That was then, this is now. The British regard Eurovision as a joke, so it's been hard to find anyone who's any good to volunteer to go. The UK hasn't won since 1997; there's no question of the BBC not having the money. I thought this year's British entry was much better than usual, one of the best songs in this year's competition. A sort of melange of elements of 'Where is the love?' (the music) and 'We don't need no education' (the lyrics), with just a little bit of 'Baby one more time' (the costumes). It made me laugh, but maybe the humour was too subtle for most. The victory of Lordi points to a new solution to the perennial problem of the British song - submit a more obvious joke entry. If it becomes a contest for who can take Eurovision least seriously, the British should win.

Originally Posted by haku

Oh i totally agree, everybody should go through the semi, songs in French would be eliminated right there (look at poor Kate Ryan, lol, only the title was in French but that was enough to get her kicked out) and that would be less embarrassing than nul points at the final.

I feel bad for Kate Ryan because she had the best song and so the pundits naively made her the favourite. I don't think it was a French title that did for her in the semis, it was that it was too modern. Music that sounds like it belong in this millennium is too avant-garde for most of the Eurovision audience. As spyretto said, maybe a trance song will win in 30 years' time.

Originally Posted by haku

That may be true, but even if we sent one of our top-selling artists with a potential hit, it would still end up last or close to last, that's just the way it is now.

It's the same for the UK and Germany. It should be pointed out that Eurovision was traditionally dominated by the far west of Europe and countries like Finland and Greece never got a look in. The new order in Eurovision is the revenge of the formerly oppressed and excluded.

[forre]

Out of the simple fact that I take Eurovision as it is, I'm not dissapointed. France will win when they send again something like Natasha St-Pierre. So it's not about any rigged voting. Finland won even when Ukraina voted for Russia and Germany for Turkey.

[QueenBee]

Am I the only one who did NOT like Russia's song?

[Argos]

Originally Posted by QueenBee

Am I the only one who did NOT like Russia's song?

At least two! But let's be happy, if he had only an average song, Russia would have won easily. They have strong minorities in quite a lot of voting countries to get high scores plus the other slavic countries' friendship points, nothing could stop Russia from winning. Thank God, they have nothing really good to present. They would win every ESC!

[haku]

Originally Posted by forre

France will win when they send again something like Natasha St-Pierre.

Yeah, but that something would have to sing in English like everyone else to win, and that ain't gonna happen.

[simon]

Originally Posted by QueenBee

Am I the only one who did NOT like Russia's song?

I didn't like it either.

Originally Posted by forre

France will win when they send again something like Natasha St-Pierre.

But she didn't win when they sent her, although she did better than they usually do. That's the kind of music France always sends and it hasn't won for a very long time.

Originally Posted by Argos

But let's be happy, if he had only an average song, Russia would have won easily. They have strong minorities in quite a lot of voting countries to get high scores plus the other slavic countries' friendship points, nothing could stop Russia from winning. Thank God, they have nothing really good to present. They would win every ESC!

Aren't those fighting words on a Tatu forum?

[forre]

Originally Posted by Argos

They have strong minorities in quite a lot of voting countries to get high scores plus the other slavic countries' friendship points, nothing could stop Russia from winning.

Where did you get this idea from? Russia has been trying to win this contest for a while now and nothing helped so far.

Btw, the Turkish trassexual Superstar entry has been spinning in my head all the day today. Speak about a devilish sticky crap! Ha-ha!

[Argos]

Originally Posted by simon

Aren't those fighting words on a Tatu forum?

Russia has a lot of talented artists, but they would never go to ESC, and tatu will do it never again. (And their 2003 performance was certainly below average). Not against Russia, but for fairness and equal conditions as much as possible.

[socialite]

Originally Posted by haku

The show already lost its way when it included Turkey and Israel.

Turkey lies at least about 0.1% in Europe. It's also consequent with it being considererd to join the EU (not that I'd favor that).

The thing with Israel is somehow understandable, because the arab league doesn't recognize it and excludes it. But somebody has to.

But I really don't understand the inclusion of Armenia.

[Argos]

Originally Posted by forre

Where did you get this idea from? Russia has been trying to win this contest for a while now and nothing helped so far.

Trying with some Troll or Prime Minister, a boring Savicheva, Podolskaya. Come on, a bit more quality should be easily available in Russia.

Originally Posted by socialite

But I really don't understand the inclusion of Armenia.

Armenia is thought to belong to the European culture (religion) by a lot of people, so maybe ...

[dradeel]

Originally Posted by QueenBee

Am I the only one who did NOT like Russia's song?

For an ESC-song I thought it was kinda decent, not the worst, but still I didn't like it. Heh. It's not my cup of tea, but I saw a bunch of other songs that were alot worse by far. At least his performance were ok. It's not good when people sing awfully false, as maaany did yesterday!

Originally Posted by socialite

The thing with Israel is somehow understandable, because the arab league doesn't recognize it and excludes it. But somebody has to.

I don't think Israel is in ESC because Europe feel sorry for them not having any friends down in the middle east. I guess it's much rather the fact that it's the only "western" country in the middle east, and therefore there's no reason to keep them out. I think more and more countries "down there" will join up as they get westernized. I have no idea about Armenia, but I'm guessing it's the case? hehe. Either way, I don't mind some countries outside europe joining up. Get some fresh blood into the competition...

Originally Posted by forre

Russia has been trying to win this contest for a while now and nothing helped so far.

Just my thought excactly. I don't think artists in Russia don't give a damn. Russia has been up there fighting in the top every last year, aye? I think they're trying, and it's bound to happen soon...

[volkovito]

Originally Posted by Rachel

volkovito, "Never Let You Go" in sendspace for you:

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Thanks Rachel..!!

[simon]

Armenia is culturally European and politically it's a member of the Council of Europe. Why on earth would we want to exclude them? Israel is culturally more European than Middle Eastern. Turkey is geographically 3% (not 0.1%) in Europe. Any country that belongs to the EBU can participate. Morocco took part in the contest once. Lebanon was going to participate in 2005, but it turned out that Lebanese law forbid them to show the Israeli entry so they had to withdraw. I think Georgia wants to take part too. Why not? Europe should be defined by culture, not geographic pedantry. I read that the number of countries that can take part is capped at 40, so Georgia will have to get in quick before Kosovo joins Montenegro in getting independence. (I liked it when the Serbian announcer on the show last night said he was speaking from 'Belgrade, the capital of Serbia and Montenegro' - until tomorrow, I thought).

[Rachel]

Originally Posted by Argos

Trying with some Troll or Prime Minister, a boring Savicheva, Podolskaya. Come on, a bit more quality should be easily available in Russia.

Oi, nothing wrong wrong with Yulia Savicheva (although they did pick the wronggggg song for her!) and Natalia Podolskaya!!

[fanoff]

Originally Posted by forre

Btw, the Turkish trassexual Superstar entry has been spinning in my head all the day today. Speak about a devilish sticky crap! Ha-ha

i think you are wrong in this point.Sibel Tüzün is much more beautiful than an avarage looking woman.and i think she looked cool in that outfit that weighs 3 kilograms,even though she had given birth to her daughter lately.anyway,to see the truth in your eyes,you gotta check them out(these are just some examples of her beauty)
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[11Russia]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Oi, nothing wrong wrong with Yulia Savicheva (although they did pick the wronggggg song for her!) and Natalia Podolskaya!!

Indeed! There's NOTHING wrong with Savicheva she's GREAAAAAT! And very famous
2 of her songs are on the top of the charts in Russia (not sales cause there don't sell singles) but Airplay and stuff like that...
They just picked a bad song for Yulia...!

[Rachel]

fanoff, I still think she has a penis hiding in there

[haku]

Originally Posted by fanoff

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Those pics change nothing, she totally looks like a tranny, i mean:
http://sibeltuzun.com/swfs/foto76.swf
Hello?

But there's nothing wrong with that, and that certainly doesn't mean she's not beautiful, i'm sure many people find her attractive.

[fanoff]

Originally Posted by Rachel

fanoff, I still think she has a penis hiding in there

Offtop:
ok about the work!
nooo..she is beautiful!Did you know that she was bald like 8 years ago when she used to do hard rock?ill try to find a pic of her like that.