figure skating?

[11Russia]

T_T Well now that I see the comparation... I guess you're right...

Btw... Slutskaya is very loved here in Mexico =))) The little comunity in Mexico that does Figure Skating, says
she's such a nice person.

[fanoff]

Originally Posted by forre

The only guy who could give him a match is Yagudin. Too bad that he quit competing. Even his 4 years old performances could get at least silver at this Olympics. If you've never seen them, do it. You won't regret.

i know yagudins performances.yagudin must have quited cause he could see that he wouldnt be able to win over plushenko .now the year is 2006 and theres no sight of him.anyway,plushenko is a star and he knows it.if more people wathc figure skating,its just because theres a star(plushenko).not the chinese or japanese women.

[zebu]

i think plushenko is much more artistic and has a better feeling for music than yagudin had. he really dances on the ice.

oh, i cant believe cohen got higher marks for presentation than slutskaya. and cohen, is she on some kind of steroids or smthing that prevent her from growing, she looks like those girls that do gimnastics. in fact most female american skaters look like that, kwan, that hughes kid in salt lake city, i cant beleve thats just a coincidence. its just sad that they do that. which brings me to salt lake city, if that wasnt a rip off, nothing isnt.

[forre]

Yagudin quitted because of his hip problems and he's known as an artist on ice. There's no judge in the world that gave Plushenko higher artistic marks than to Yagudin ever. I think it was Curt Browning who said that Plushenko is like a great carpenter on ice building his house from the base, hammering there all the parts while Weir or Lambiel, for instance, are like artists painting their works. There's something in this statement.

Plushenko is a star and there was no real competition for him in Torino. He's done his job and did it well. American skating school is good enough to give the world a few Olympic champions on the girl's side and they were great. Remember Lipinsky's free 1998? Triple-triple combination, triple-double and some 5 landed triples. Hi-hi. She'd win in Torino with that set if she competed. I don't think it's fair to say that Russian women singles side is better or stronger or more artistic. It really isn't.

[xmad]

forre,you said 1998 and it reminds me of Maria Butyrskaya.She did great in 1998 and 1999.I remember it when she won the 1999 World Championships.
And also she's so gorgeous.

[fanoff]

plushenko is an absolute performer and he can make people get the feeling of his dance.there must be no argument on that.and johnny weir is one of the skaters i find nothing in except meaningless spinning.all he does is to jump and get his points.i dont think he is neither a real performer or an artist on ice.it means i think the opposite of what you think.

[forre]

I never said he wasn't an artist on ice. I just said what I said. Plushenko is leaving to become a pro. He's a history for my part. I still hope that he'll come for the worlds though. It will be pity if he decided not to.

[fanoff]

you didnt say that but you meant something like that.theres something you know and we dont know about his professional life?i think he shouldnt quit now he must go on at least till the next olympics then when he gets the second olympic gold he can quit comfortably

[forre]

Originally Posted by fanoff

you didnt say that but you meant something like that.theres something you know and we dont know about his professional life?

No, professionally he is a top gun. No doubt about that. I love figure skating too much to say any other things. I just say that his artistism doesn't touch me. There are not so many skaters that ever did it either. Gordeeva/Grinkov, Rodnina/Zaitsev, Torwill/Dean, Yagudin, Witt, Bestemianova/Bukin, Platov/Grishuk, Anissina/Piezerat did. Weir does it now but he's missing a bit technically.

As for Plusheko, he said the following:
"I can compete maybe for seven years on the professional level, maybe even more. As for the amature level - I don't know. It's hard to skate as an amature all the time. You need to stay in a great shape all the time for that. Too all that, amature level doesn't give any good financial support. It's enough. I've already got enough medals for the country. There's no other Russian skater, who has such a set of medals as I do. I'm planning to skate for my own profit now."

[zebu]

seeing plushenko as a carpenter on ice is impossible for me. when i watch him i get special feeling, tears can come into my eyes , for me hes pure art. i never get that feeling when watching other skaters, femal, male pairs whatever. i hope he continues competing until the european championship in zagreb, seeing him live must be a super experience.

but yeah de gustibus non est disputandum.

[forre]

Originally Posted by fanoff

and johnny weir is one of the skaters i find nothing in except meaningless spinning.

He's one of the kind. Weir doesn't skate, he flies over the ice. A natural talent considering that the guy began to skate at the age of 12 and won Nationals at 19. In 4 years no one would be able to beat him. He just needs some more time.

[fanoff]

Originally Posted by forre

Quote:
Originally Posted by fanoff
and johnny weir is one of the skaters i find nothing in except meaningless spinning.

He's one of the kind. Weir doesn't skate, he flies over the ice. A natural talent considering that the guy began to skate at the age of 12 and won Nationals at 19. In 4 years no one would be able to beat him. He just needs some more time

if i called an american skater as the future on ice,it would be evan lysacek.he showed that by being 3rd in his first world championship and being 4th in the olympics,ahead weir.and he is more like a human than the weird Weir(lool!).i still believe that plushenko wont give up and dominate at least four years ahead(till the next olympics)

[forre]

Lysacek is good too. It looks like Plush leaves immediately. Not even sure he'll show up at the Words.

[fanoff]

The world championships are taking place in canada Calgary now.and you know what,our king plushenko isnt taking part!!!!i hope he has a problem with his legs or some injuries(its always been the opposite for him,but now the statement is different,it may mean that we wont get to see him again on ice and i dont f***ing want that!)

[11Russia]

No one from the Russian Skating Comunity will take part on the Championship...
Neither Tatiana or Roman... too bad cause they are really good!!!
But they said they want to rest.

[forre]

Why no one? There are plenty of Russians, who already took part. Dance pairs are left. The best Russian result in this Worlds so far is Petrova/Tikhonov (pairs) - bronze medal.

[11Russia]

Originally Posted by forre

Why no one? There are plenty of Russians, who already took part. Dance pairs are left. The best Russian result in this Worlds so far is Petrova/Tikhonov (pairs) - bronze medal.

I'm not sure if NO one... but at least the best one are not gonna participate...
Like Tatiana and Roman and Plyushenko...

[forre]

Why gonna participate? The championship is almost over.

I knew that the best Russians from Torino wouldn't go to Calgary. I'm more curious now how it will go in the Dance where Bulgarians are in the lead.

[marina]

Evgeni Plushenko top Russian (and world) figure skater has some sexy moves for you. He literaly strips on ice, and audience goes crazy.

[forre]

Yes, it's his famous show. He ran it all through the last year I think. A good one! Thanks for the link, marina.

Btw: Bulgarian Dance pair won in Calgary! Yeah! After so many years, they really deserved it. I absolutely love them! Happy here.