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haku, how come I know NO one from Sweden since ABBA? ....and how come I know TATU ...? and even went out of my way to buy that mugshot CD.. how many CDs of TATU that I have here .. hmm .. oh .. and let see .. songs were written by infamous writer and lyrics are ...you know.. videos directed by Ivan ..an advertiser and psychiatrist... Y&L from out of nowhere... can't sing live .. throat problem.. smoking problem .. So .. who is interesting in Sweden now? |
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Kent The Ark Cesars Palace Antiloop E-Type Neneh Cherry Dr. Alban Robyn And numerous hits by Britney Spears, N'Sync, Back Street Boys, etc... have been written by Swedish writers. A page on the Swedish music industry: http://www.abbamail.com/news/billboa..._spotlight.htm And denial, Britney Spears' first and third albums were done in Sweden by Swedes. Max Martin in particular, Y&L would be *so* lucky if they could work with him and his team. Contrary to Ivan, they know what they are doing. |
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13-02-2004, 07:30 | #28 |
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We have so many threads about the girls splitting from Ivan, the lawyers trying to break up the contract etc... we should all merge it to one universal thread about that topic. It's no confusing like it is now... you write your oppinion on one thread, while the points you discussed on that one have been mentioned in ANOTHER thread about the same topic.
Oh! About Swedish bands... you forgot Alcazar (Crying At The Discoteque, Sexual guarantee), and Harpo (Movie Star). |
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No, I think Yulia and Lena are smart! They know that they can't survive without Ivan. It's not like they write their own songs, or have a wide vocal range. They are not exactly rock so they can't do a courtney love and split from their group. Their voices need more mixing and modification when put into songs. Ofcourse, they could always go back to Lena Kipper!!!!! That would be hilarious.
Tatu is composed of marketers, songwriters, managers, song editors, musicians. Tatu would not be what it is withough all those people and the software. I also don't think Yulia and Lena want the stress of taking care of everything themselves. They see how much work it is. They are 18, they probably don't want a lot of work to do. They also probably want to make more money out of tatu. If Lena and Yulia were seriously considering leaving Ivan, they would do it swiftly. They would already have another producer to organize their events or they would have been signed to another record company (or the same one). It smells like a PR stunt because the articles report that Yulia and Lena have announced that they have left the group and do not talk about their future plans. If this is not a PR stunt by Ivan, it's prob. just Lena and Yulia's way of making more money. They realize that tatu will end in the next 2-3 years so they probably want to draw up a new contract. On another note, Yulia, Lena and Ivan all seem to get along. They don't exactly look like they want to split up. |
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By the way concerning Max Martin - he is a gifted song-writer but I don't want Y/L to sound like B. Spears and Backstreet Boys! |
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But those people are professional, i'm sure they can create a Tatulike sound with good lyrics for Y&L. And most importantly, they can do it efficiently. |
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TATU music are so different...with concept and everything.. and random lyrics .. and how they were promote. We are so different in what we see in TATU or what we want them to be next and why we still fan even without release of new album or unpromise future. I agree with Dollarspart about Yulia and Lena being smart and beside that they have been working with Ivan for like 4 years. They must have learned alot from him. But .. this really seems like "reality PR stunt" for Reality Show.. the next level. |
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Anyway, i don't see the problem. If Y&L leave Ivan, Ivan will probably hire two new girls to record the second album and continue as the new Tatu since he owns the name. So the fans who prefer Ivan will follow him and his new band, and the fans who prefer Y&L will follow the girls in their new career. Everybody wins. Quote:
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It has nothing to do with the PR. What's the problem? All artists get into disputes with their managers from time to time. Some manage to uphold their good cooperation and some part.
To the question if Yulia and Lena will survive without Ivan, the answer is "the time will show". Ivan is not a super-star, you know? Managers come and go. |
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To me can't really say it was a lie .. everything begin with Lena Kiper's idea wasn't a secret. |
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Let me start by saying that I think all this is just another publicity stunt. Ivan has obviously realised that we're all wise to his little game of creating scandals purely to keep the band in the public-eye while he f#cks around and wastes even more time. Realising we're onto him and he can't get away with this kinda thing for much longer he plays the ultimate mind-f#ck and turns our opinion against us by letting us believe that Julia and Lena themselves are sick of his little game!
Anyway, the point I wanted to make was this: we are all discussing what kind of new management would be best for the girls, where the management should be based, what direction the new management should take the former tATu in etc. But what makes you so sure that any management company is actually going to want Julia and Lena now? After all, it's gonna take a hell of a lot of work to clear up the mess Shap has made - their reputation (or lack of) is a complete joke now, even in Russia! Any management company that takes the girls on now is gonna have a lot of work on it's hands and, quite frankly, I don't see anyone wanting to have to salvage what's left of Julia and Lena's musical prospects. |
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Well, we'll soon know if the break up was a PR stunt from Ivan. If it is, it will be the final straw for a lot of people.
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