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04-10-2006, 22:38 | #22 |
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That website is full to the brim of Turkish propaganda. I take that website as serious as I do Paris Hilton.
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05-10-2006, 00:41 | #23 | |
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It's a sad day when people have to revert to such petty excuse as "only 1.5 million people is considered a genocide" or "other nationals were killed as well" to justify attrocities of their own ethnicity. I think accepting one's historical faults and repenting is a true measure of a nation. Unfortunately this is one bitter pill Turkey just won't be able to dodge. It was to blatant to deny. It sends shivers down my spine when someone is semi-justifying the slaughter of a million ethnic Armenians with the fact that their own nationals were killed in the struggle as well. There is NO excuse. Ever.
This coming from me - a person who always supported Turkey's EU ambitions. What's right is right, though. And I don't think they should ever be allowed to join before they take that final plunge and accept their own mistakes. If not then Turkey's membership would be a total mockery of those killed in the attrocitiers. Not to mention other things should be settled as well. First and foremost, the Cyprus issues. Second - human rights. They're walking a fine line between Arab style represive Islamic culture and the liberal western culture. A few years from now will show which one will prevail. And then the EU membership question will be resolved. Offtop: Oh right ... on a side note ... Quote:
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05-10-2006, 00:56 | #24 | |
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I totally agree. Bush has absolutely no right to interfer with which country the EU decides to allow admission. I know America would be pissed if the EU tried to interfer with making a US territory a full fledge state, we have no right to order around the EU. I'd say with the latest Republican scandle... Bush won't have unilateral power in the US government much longer... Oh I can't wait for Nov. 7. |
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05-10-2006, 00:58 | #25 |
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freddie, I was just watching BBC News 24 and they were talking about corruption in governments. America was 9th if I remember correctly. Don't even forget the power of money |
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05-10-2006, 01:57 | #26 | |
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Are you suggesting the US would want to bribe the EU into leading favourable politics for them? They can't afford it. EU wants to make it's own riches, not American left-overs and recent market-monopoly trials and scandals proved that clearly. I didn't see any significant continental EU member state condoning the war on Iraq from what I remember. |
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05-10-2006, 14:00 | #27 |
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Yet another example of Turkey being "unreasonable", a delegation from the EU Parliament was supposed to visit Turkey, and Turkey won't allow the trip because one of the MEPs in the delegation is Cypriot.
There are 2 simple things Turkey must do to come to terms with its dirty military past and finally be able to move forward as a modern country: 1. Withdraw its troups that illegally occupy Cyprus (and therefore the EU) and recognize the full sovereignty of the Cypriot state and the EU over the island. 2. Recognize the Armenian genocide. Simple, and unavoidable. |
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05-10-2006, 14:52 | #28 | |
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05-10-2006, 18:48 | #29 |
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I'd be satisfied if they at least recognized the Armenian genocide for what it was. The "Turkish" part of Cyrus is probably lost to Greeks about now - that ship has sailed. Europe didn't show enough decisiveness when it happened initially. It'll only matter on a symbolic level after they join the EU, anyway.
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05-10-2006, 19:03 | #30 |
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How could you be so sure that it happened?you are saying those like you all lived in that period.i can see Armenian Diaspora works smoothly,getting the idea to turn 180 degrees!i should know better what was lived in my ground,not you just reading the books that tell that it happened!
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05-10-2006, 19:39 | #31 | |
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05-10-2006, 19:59 | #32 | |
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Coincidentally.. wasn't that same rationale the one you used as your argument against the theory of evolution? |
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05-10-2006, 20:25 | #33 | |
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05-10-2006, 20:41 | #34 |
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fanoff, I don't really know how to react to your post
to set an exemple, French had done bad things in history (Algerian war, Petain's government during WW2), and I just said it happened it's life but our rulers admited it and gave some excuses ... stuff like that so, do you believe there's no Armenian genocide cuz' for you it's ok to kill 1.000.000 people or just cuz' you're Turkish (talking about the state of mind, but no offense )? cuz' I really don't understand you said that history books are bullshit? |
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05-10-2006, 21:02 | #35 |
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Yeah cause you know... history books can't even POSSIBLY compare to the all-factual Qur'an, right? No offence to you fanoff, nor to any Muslim out there but do you see the paradox here?
You believe what you want to believe. It's human nature. Every person has his own subjective truth but it just so happens that official world history isn't really a sabotage against the Turks. Because in that case it's also conspired against most nations on the globe, since just about every political entity did SOMETHING wrong at some point in history. But I guess that can't apply to Turks... |
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05-10-2006, 21:23 | #36 | |
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05-10-2006, 21:26 | #37 |
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You are a lost cause. That's my last post in this thread.
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All historians in the world agree that Armenians were victims of a massive extermination by the Turks, 1 million dead at the very least, and it doesn't matter if those people died during a 'relocation', it's still a crime. The history of Armenians in Turkey is actually quite similar to that of Jews in Poland… 1.5 million Armenians were living in Turkey before the "events"… There are only 70,000 left today at best… Oops! What happened i wonder? Quote:
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This poor guy fanoff is totally brainwashed. I have seen it before in my life in another country. He believes what he has been told. If he starts to doubt after this discussion, it's already an achievement.
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