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Lady GaGa is talented. I have no doubts about that.
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at last. No ones arguing lady G has some talent. Def more than most todays pop artist, it just when people start worship her like Curt Cobain (which you seem like to do in your previous posts), searching hidden meaning @ place where theres no such, I for example starting to have allergic reaction to her, which is really weird considering the fact I like what shes doing.
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Finally I found time to watch the whole interview. Interesting - more than 900.000 people were curious to watch the first part, but only every fifth of them watched the second part, and finally only one out of nine watched the last part. Comes close to my own estimate that only 10 percent of the Gaga fans are interested in her artistical aspects, the other 90 percent like just the scandal chick with her umtsa-umtsa-Ga-ga-hullala-ha. Well..she looks quite barbecued on the picture. In those 40 minutes I didn't get anything answered I hoped to get. I've watched other artists' interviews less than 20 minutes with much more insight into their work. Her inspiration - Warhol, Bowie (poor guys to be mentioned here!), Diana, some hip-hopper...scanty. She made much the impression that she wanted to 'legitimate' what she does, and she wants to be acknowledged as an artist, not as a celebrity. Who from the other pop stars does not? If you have to justify your work, there is certainly something wrong. Don't know if her efforts to be accepted as an artist - and God knows she tries hard, will finally bear fruits. Dance pop is so far from accepted artistry that she may try even wider splits, her chances are not that good. What makes her outstanding among the pop stars is that she makes the best she can in every aspect of her work, be it her singing, the choreographies or the arrangements of the music. She cares for details and is not content with usual practice in that genre. We know from tatu's third album how sloppy work can sound. In that respect she is an enrichment in the scene, and for bringing dance out of the corner of the 'perverted' right into the mainstream. If that is reason enough to see her as the yardstick of world's music is a bit beyond my comprehension though. |
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Let's follow your line of thought anyway. Since you are the resident Gaga expert, I ask you if any of these artists that Gaga has collaborated with have made comments with regards to Gaga pushing musical boundaries? In addition, I ask you, do you think in ten years time that people will look back at Gaga and say that her music was truly groundbreaking? Quote:
In Sweden where I come from, Eurodance, Europop, Eurodisco etc, were hugely popular in the early 90ies. Are you familiar with these genres? They weren't considered the highest quality music, but some of it was catchy and it was possible to dance to it. The Swedish group Ace of Base was extremely popular for instance. I believe "Bad Romance" and the rest of Gaga's "oeuvre" is more reminiscent of these genres than industrial (you may of course argue against it and I'm all ears). Have a listen to "Happy Nation" by Ace of Base: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joMfVFAK5Qc Please note that this track was released almost 20 years ago. Quote:
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Here is Pelageya singing the Diva Dance of the 5th element: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apE21p-y4A8 Pelageya singing a song from her latest album, somewhat in the style of seventies rock à la Rainbow/Deep Purple: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq--rJtgadc Here is a small snippet of Pelageya showing her vocal capabilities: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UQE5tQoRDQ And Pelageya singing a Cossack song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO8Ka...eature=related |
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^ Kudos for your Industrial likes. I share these.
Also, i do agree with you regards Ace of Base, who i love also. When i first heard Alejandro i nearly died at how much it sounded the blatant spit of AoB. |
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I bought Ace of Base's first album in '93, and still quite like it. A few of those melodies are very catchy (nostalgia may also play a part in why I like it). I agree about Alejandro and AoB's version of "Don't turn around". There are a few remixes of those two together on Youtube. |
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Lady Gaga is good when she is doing these acoustic session with piano.
Otherwise, it's pure show-business, well oiled, sung half playback and not enough authentic for me. I will not say that her shows are bad, i am sure they are great. Just not my taste. Lady Gaga isn't specifically a musician for me. She uses her musician abilities and skill but she doesn't use them to the highest. But maybe one day i would try just a Gaga show to have an idea. |
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She's a smart lady in the way she brings all those elements of past musical genres into a nice fusion of electronica pop and I like her videos but she's not breaking new ground musically. This is the way things go with new music these days, they either rehash old ideas through a modern perspective or are merely selling albums to female teenagers, because those are the only ones who care about music these days.
Lady Gaga manages to do both succesfully...another group that is doing that from a different perspective is Muse, they also rehash old ideas and genres, shaping them through their own mold. I think innovative music stopped with Tatu, that was the last trully original thing that came from music |
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Wow, just watched a few short clips from the VMAs, does GaGa have a new face? Sorry, I know I am not the first to ask this, but her nose if defo newish. And did only dykes hand over the awards to her? Oh my... how thoughtful of MTV...
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^ Again, I am just being a bit ironic here. I said I've seen bits of it (on YouTube where you can hardly find anything these days anyway) and those bits happened to be Ellen and Jane Lynch giving her the moon men. Apparently, shows like those get extremely boring if you have just one person receiving everything and no Kanye West interrupting your thank-you-speeches.
And yes, you might know by now that I am being very ignorant when it comes to GaGa . She can do whatever she wants, I haven't been impressed much so far. But good that you have known her since she was born. |
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Tim, that's quite an assumption you make here. I'm not really enjoying t.A.T.u., have hardly enjoyed anything in the last three and a half years from them. But I like tatysite and don't want it to die completely and of course, I want to know what the girls are up to now after the years they have been such a big part of my life. I guess, I am a rather "loyal" person... I can't quite see the point though why you compare GaGa and t.A.T.u.. It's a question of taste, isn't it? I said I am not overly impressed by what GaGa does - I didn't say it's worthless. I like some of her songs and videos, but that doesn't mean to me she is the new light some of her fans want everybody to believe in. Might become irritating someday: the argument that she is oh-so-innovative. Of course and without any doubt is she the biggest thing out there right now and good for her fans who love and support her. Nothing wrong with that. But there will always be people bitching about someone who is famous, so let's be happy instead that I am also posting in this thread because she is everything that MTV can be grateful for right now. |
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I thought GaGa was adorable at the VMAs. Born this wayyyy~~~~
Anyway, I always think she looks different every few months, but that's only because of her hair and make-up. When she stopped wearing those straight-cut bangs, I hardly recognized her at first. Her "new" hairstyle though, makes her look totally identical to how she looked in her younger years, only with blond hair. I think it's a cute look for her. |
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The record companies themselves. Those demographics are the source of the lion's share of sales from CD's/itunes these days. In the 1950's they were the ones who were buying records, so it's coming full circle. Look at the current top 40's in the UK/USA, do you see any other style of music there than the current hybreed of hip-hop/r'n'b/electronica pop? Not any more. The Americans were snubbing electronic music for so many years and they're now embracing it fully. Who do you think this is, mom and dad? Yeah, that is the foundation of pop, but hey, 20-30 years ago they were experimenting, plagiarising unknown classical pieces, what they're doing now is rehashing each other's ideas who in turn were ripped off from ideas from 15-20 years ago. Our ears are well trained but it's not going anywhere. Quote:
But common, what's so special about Gaga, other than being a very succesful, sonically pleasing marketing tool. |
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