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Old 02-05-2007, 05:50   #84
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Originally Posted by Talyubittu View Post
- As for fact/fiction of science. I believe things that have SUBSTANTIAL evidence to be true. Being a transexual as I said, is something you convince yourself of, and then opt to either have an operation or not. It's not like transexuals are natural beings of the world that are not yet understood. It's a man created science that causes the change, just because a person can confuse their body, does not mean that it's something that is normal to do. I think scientists should take this into concideration when they make some of their analysis.
I definitely disagree with your assertion that you convince yourself of being transsexual. I knew when i was a kid that something was not right because I did not find girls attractive. It's something that came as a dawning light, a realization, over an extended period of time when i was coming of age.

I've had the privilege of being the friend of someone who was a girl when i met them, but is now transitioning to a boy. And by listening to them and listening to the opinions of professors at my school (Not everyone was on the same side of the debate, mind you), I honestly believe that it is the same type of realization for transgender people: A realization that, as a kid (or whenever they realize it, after all, sexual orientation is also something that doesn't become apparent to people until sometimes mid-life), they just don't feel comfortable in their own skin.

It's something foreign to them. "Not their body." I mean, when I look into the mirror, I have to say I'm pretty pleased with what I see. The freckles irk me sometimes, but what can i do, I'm Irish. But that's NOTHING compared to being absolutely disgusted with myself every time I have to look at my torso or groin. The trauma associated with that is probably a factor psychologists take into consideration when they diagnose someone with Gender Identity Disorder. It really does hurt the person mentally to be "trapped" in a foreign body.

I mean, and perhaps this is a point you can empathize with me on, how would you feel if you, as the person you are, with your own beliefs, morals, values etc, as well as your confidence in being a boy and your appreciation for your genitals, suddenly were thrust into a body with boobs the size of tangerines and a vagina? How would you feel?

How you might feel in that situation is something that psychologists take into account. You might respond that you don't think a transsexual is IN that situation to begin with, because they have convinced themselves they're the opposite sex. But take into consideration the studies that have shown that transsexual people show the cognitive and behavioral characteristics of the gender they identify with. To cinvince oneself to go against society and copy the opposite sex is a pretty remarkable feat. I wouldn't go through such a re-conditioning of my mind if it were a "choice". But transsexuals don't have a "choice" to make in that regard. Their only choice... is to take the steps necessary to bring their body in line with the thinking patterns and physical make-up of their brain. Of what they truly feel their body is supposed to be, feel like, and look like.

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Oooohhhhh.... make no mistake, my friend, I am THE definition of the provincial RHode Islander. I whine every time I get taken as "far" as Massachusetts on a small errand (read: roadtrip). I see people on the road with license plates from any state other than Massachusetts (read: Massholes), Rhode Island, or New York (Just because one of my best friends is a New Yorker and I'd get backhanded for dissing NY) and I get flustered and tell them to get the f*ck out of my state.

Out-of-staters can't drive, are rude and obnoxious, refuse to obey our traffic laws, DARE to dis my accent, AND (ohhhh...) seem to think that Rhode Island is too small to be a state. NEVERMIND those gods-condemned Nutmeggers (The Connecticut people), who have this LUDICRIS idea in their heads that they should annex Rhode Island. Ohhh, Taly, let me tell you, out-of-staters are crazy. Absolutely looney.

"I'ma Roe Dy'landa and you'se out-a-statahs have no idear what you'ser talkin' 'bout."

PS: It's all in good fun, this Off-TOpic, and I hope it made you smile, but seriously, one of my weaknesses (well, *I* consider it a strength...) is that I'm a damn provincial son-of-a-gun. Feel free to poke fun at it. BTW, the quote above IS how my accent sounds. Ask Khartoun2004...
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