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Old 28-02-2004, 02:54   #238
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First of all 'you are welcome' for everyone who said 'thanks'. Not. It was neither boring nor tiresome to type those posts. First of all I felt I was doing the right thing, as many of U provided lots of material I'd never hear and see even living here in Russia. Thank you. And the second thing is that typing those post I got another opportunity to think about what I've seen one more time, do some analysis and put my opinion in the right words, wich was a practice that never harms. The only reason I said I was glad the show was about to end is that I don't feel very comfortable seeing ppl basing their negative opinions on my mostly positive posts. I feel some kind of guiltiness that I may be didn't express myself well enough and my words were the only source u could base ur opinion on. Thats all. No matter what's going on in my tired mind now, you are getting the report on the last episode tomorrow. That's for sure. [well... if I wan't fall asleep waiting for the show of course I'll try my best not to. I promise]

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Yeah, sunny poison, your English is really good. I mean, Russians aren't exactly famous for speaking good english
Well... thanks... but first of all my english is not even half as good as it could be if I wasn't so lazy and at least bothered to attend english lessons at my uni. Doesn't matter. Just situation changed a bit in Russia. For a long time foreign languages were taught in USSR but teachers were instructed and taught to make their lessons as boring as possible. You know, we communistic a bit here Then the system failed but teachers... they were still the same... thats why things were changing slowly here. But now when new generation of teachers appeared, young russians speak english pretty good. You can stop any young moscovite and he/she will speak english well enough more likely. My class had 16 students and at least 4 of them spoke english better than me. At my uni the percent of students with good english is even higher. Kids that are 7-10 yo now will speak it even better when reach my age if they aren't better already... give us some time. We have MTV for a bit more than 5 years. We weren't much in computers before. And only now ppl begin to realize that english is something they really can use. It wasn't like this before. When my english teacher at school became mad at us (we were a bit lazy ) she gave us old books for the 6th grade (we were in 11th then) and made us to retell the texts written there (usuall practice for old system), it was a serious punishment, I tell you
I was lucky. I had a great teacher who didn't make me HATE the language like my french and german teachers did. We were just having fun at our lessons talking abot 'sex, drugs, rock-n-roll' (no kidding here). We were USING the language not just LEARNING it. And I need to thank tatysite also. My english improved a lot after I got here.

Huh... Kate, when I was ur age (well... not like I'm much older now, just I'm talking about the time when I was 17 exactly and finished my school), I also thought that the degree was the most important thing on the earth. And 'i'm ready to bite my nails now' (u know what i mean, i think) that I made it the main goal of my life. Just 4 years were enough to understand degree means nothing as far as u aren't happy in life. I don't say U shouldn't study. Do as far as u like it. Just don't see it as 'the most important thing'. There are many other ways to be happy. Now I'd exchange everything for having what Yulia has. I'm not talking about fame. I mean doing something u really like to do in ur life and getting enough money to survive for this. I almost have a degree of the most prestigious uni of the country. And every time someone hears about it, he becomes like 'wow! that's so cool'. And I can't look in his eyes coz *I* know what this degree costs me, and I know I pay this high price for something I don't really need. And degree isn't a measure of someone's intellegance. Trust me in this. I've seen many ppl without good education. They were very interesting to talk with and they were making money ppl with 2 high educations could only dream about.

simon, yeah... ur ideas make sense. It's obvious that Ivan was surprised by reaction TATU got from the West. It was very different from one in Russia. Here nobody got TATU so serious. They were just a pop band, provocative and with this sense of freedome... hard to explain... but nobody was thinking about political correctness here. This thing just doesn't exists in Russia. Anyway, such things as 'paedophilia and child pornography' just didn't pop up in russian minds. TATU were about love, desperation, being missunderstood. Ppl were looking at their facial expressions with emotions and not under their skirts. So, Ivan just didn't realize that ppl on the west took it all really serious. His comments were half-jokes half-provocations. He tried to tell 'hey! this project is about love and fear, life and death and u are talking about paedophilia. What's wrong with you, guys?' But he wasn't smart enough to understand these his comments will be taken not any less serious than the whole thing with TATU. Anyway, I don't think he regrets his own words. He founded TATU to SAY something to ppl. Not for money. So, the audience that refused to understand wasn't a big loose for him. [I don't say girls agree with him on this. Their aims were a bit different, I guess]. He wanted to do something more than just project. It wasn't understood. As well as his words that he doesn't want to record 2nd album. He wanted to record something more than just album, weren't understood also. Everyone is blaming him for delay [Y&L included if the whole Podnebesnaya thing is true], while 'something more than just album' takes a bit more time to do than just usual album

Hello Linda16, really glad to see u here Welcome to the forum
Ur post was just like a breth of fresh air. Finally someone forgets about senseless details and sees the whole concept or at least tries to see... I don't know what's wrong here. Why ppl are so stuck to opposites. Why for some only pure blind love or bitter hating exists? You know... even in black&white movies there are shadows. Oh... ok... i shut up now. I'm a bit tired so can be talking nonsense...