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Old 15-05-2011, 18:10   #83
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It's a better idea if they divide the semis between East and West instead of all those...
Not so easy to draw the line between east and west. Both sides should have the same amount of countries, but it doesn't solve the problem of the minority/migrant voting in neighbouring countries. Russia would benefit on cost of it's neighbours, for example.
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... having 5 big rich Western European countries going straight to the final is fundamentally wrong.
Completely unacceptable, if we talk about fairness and equality. But who would pay the bills, if there were not this foul trade-off?
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...get rid of the nonsense jury voting...
The jury voting should correct a few flaws of the public voting: reducing the chance to cheat the audience with cheap show effects instead of quality, reduce the effect of neighbour/minority/foreign worker voting, give good singers a better chance.

Well, in reality nothing has changed for the better. This year saw the biggest amount of block voting of all time. Good singers were rare because they already knew from the last 2 ESCs that good singing doesn't get you more points from the jury. The good singers were hopelessly behind. What the jury voting brought: good singers are less, interesting show performances are less, mainstream pop gets the bigger points (no wonder, jury members are mainstream pop people), neighbour voting has increased in west and central Europe.
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It's embarrassing to see air guitars and air pianos in the contest
Chease pop and live instruments - sit down and reconsider!

Well, I made some statistics and there are a few interesting results.
- In a west-only voting Ireland would have won.
- The ranking of the western as well as that of the eastern side of Europe each had 7 of their own among their top 10.
- The UK entry though was more favoured in central and eastern Europe.
- There's a clear sign of political voting in the west. Except for Azerbaijan (swedish song) and Moldova (more considered Romanian than Russian) the ex- Soviet countries had the last places in western votes, without counting Switzerland, which got into the mud too.
- the ex-Soviet countries 'boycotted' the Balkans. Never before seen so few points from them.

Another observation concerns the foreign workers votings. Turkey got into a semifinal group where they could not get points from the rich countries, where many Turkish workers live. Consequently they had no chance to reach the final with their not so ESC-fit candidate. Bosnia on the other hand could draw on opulent ressources. 57% of their semi-final points (and 48% of the final) came from their guest countries.
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