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Argos 27-08-2011 19:54

Yulia Volkova Solo Project pt.2
 
After shooting the cinematic masterpiece in Belarus, Volkova will return to the studio to continue recording the vocal tracks of the single. Guess we will get it 'very soon'. :laugh:

EsseAmaAquele 27-08-2011 20:18

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Originally Posted by Argos (Post 396717)
After shooting the cinematic masterpiece in Belarus, Volkova will return to the studio to continue recording the vocal tracks of the single. Guess we will get it 'very soon'. :laugh:

:D I think Argos should be part of management or TeamVolkova :D
At least here we are free, as in the "Cosmos"

fanoff 27-08-2011 21:15

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Originally Posted by michael (Post 396716)
Eh? I'm confused? Where did I call Julia a liar????

You did not, but some people there would tell you so.

michael 27-08-2011 23:34

The zombies look impressive

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h...x_8d8e5916.jpg

Please someone tell me this is a spoof....:blabla:

obez17 27-08-2011 23:40

I actually brought up this debate on there and while I did see some negative responses, there were also people that supported my argument. A lot of people just defended Julia immediately. I just think that if your official update says late August, it should happen in late August. If her official update said "soon", there would be no issue here. :)

Slayer 28-08-2011 01:24

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Originally Posted by RowerB (Post 396715)
What a load of bollocks.

:done:

Argos 28-08-2011 10:57

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Originally Posted by obez17 (Post 396721)
I just think that if your official update says late August, it should happen in late August. If her official update said "soon", there would be no issue here. :)

It depends when exactly the information has been released and what happened since then. It's possible that the shooting of the movie came surprisingly sudden and so moved dates, or that people from the label told her to 'polish' the vocal tracks before release. A professional management is aware of false dates given, and corrects them in time, but we know that she doesn't even have a working one. Anyway, a postponement of a few weeks isn't a drama.

michael 28-08-2011 11:24

^ My memory is that Julia mentioned the movie before the press release emerged.

Anyway the official line is that August date came from the record label, and the decision to delay for further vocal recordings was made only in the last few days. It seems that she is expected to have time to commute back to Moscow for the recordings while the filming continues.

Looking back certainly Julia herself never mentioned anything other than "soon" in her more recent personal messages.

Argos 28-08-2011 11:41

^
Anyway, it's not uncommon that two projects at the same time often stirr up dates. Wonder, who calls himself/herself Yuyla's manager at the moment. Probably nobody feels appointed. :D

michael 28-08-2011 12:29

I think David Junk is still the "World Manager".

No official word on identity of Russian manager but the fans who met her in Moscow, said she mentioned someone - I forget the name they gave it began with a B, but Schlachover and Tityanko seem to be out of the frame now as far as I can make out.

Ironically most of the publicity announcements seem to be coming from the English speaking side - the Russian fans seem to be getting official news via her English forums at the moment. It's not really clear what (if any) of a Russian speaking PR engine she has at the moment.

Argos 28-08-2011 13:19

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Originally Posted by michael (Post 396726)
No official word on identity of Russian manager but the fans who met her in Moscow, said she mentioned someone - I forget the name they gave it began with a B...

No, it's not Boris! :laugh:
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Originally Posted by michael (Post 396726)
...the Russian fans seem to be getting official news via her English forums at the moment. It's not really clear what (if any) of a Russian speaking PR engine she has at the moment.

That is exactly my impression. Pretty much every information comes from overseas via the forums, a Russian PR management doesn't exist. :confused:

Not exactly on topic, but maybe interesting. Yulya's ex (maybe you remember - Parviz Yasinov) has been arrested for organizing an assault on the daughter of the ambassador Mihail Barschevskij.

Slayer 29-08-2011 00:48

It seems the people who really hate t.A.T.u. are the fans, this forum is proof of that. There is a fine line between constructive criticism or not agreeing with someone does and just plain insulting them and everyone here crosses that line a lot. Lena uploads a video of a puppy? Half the forum is going to call her lazy and accuse her of not working hard because she's not working 24 hours a day every day. New pictures of Yulia? Half the forum will call her and ugly b~tch because of her lips, or whatever else she's had done.

No new song? Complaints that the girls are unprofessional and aren't working hard enough
New song? Complaints about how terrible the song is

No news? Everyone says they don't care about their fans
News? People relentlessly criticize whatever the bit of news is about.

f**in hypocrites what ever happened to being supportive of the people you once loved ??? huh? :3

thegurgi 29-08-2011 17:01

Slayer, you describe pretty much how the public reacts to everything. It's always either never enough or too much.... I can guarantee after the correspondence I just had many of these folks will be eating their words. totally unexpected stuff coming up. the delay seems definitely worth it ...

Slayer 29-08-2011 19:41

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Originally Posted by thegurgi (Post 396734)
the delay seems definitely worth it ...

Spoken like a true fan mate:coctail:

fanoff 29-08-2011 19:47

Slayer, he knows what's coming up. He's from Team Volkova.

thegurgi 30-08-2011 03:40

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Originally Posted by fanoff (Post 396737)
Slayer, he knows what's coming up. He's from Team Volkova.

not really ... but i'm connected in ways to know that stuff is happening cause I may be involved down the line. It's work so I can't say anything else about it - other than that sometimes all this pessimism and outrageous negativity while I know their working their butts off, FOR YOU, is a little unnerving. But it's the nature of the business... it's just tough to acclimate to this high a publicity level for a project. famous clients - it's fun but stressful sometimes.

fanoff 30-08-2011 06:53

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Originally Posted by thegurgi (Post 396739)
not really ... but i'm connected in ways to know that stuff is happening cause I may be involved down the line. It's work so I can't say anything else about it - other than that sometimes all this pessimism and outrageous negativity while I know their working their butts off, FOR YOU, is a little unnerving. But it's the nature of the business... it's just tough to acclimate to this high a publicity level for a project. famous clients - it's fun but stressful sometimes.

Juliavolkova.com is a well done website. So it's cool.

Argos 30-08-2011 18:10

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Originally Posted by Slayer (Post 396733)
It seems the people who really hate t.A.T.u. are the fans, this forum is proof of that.

You are pretty random with this. Maybe some bad food?
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Originally Posted by Slayer (Post 396733)
There is a fine line between constructive criticism or not agreeing with someone does and just plain insulting them and everyone here crosses that line a lot.

Don't charge others if you just mean yourself! :laugh: This forum has been pretty modest with criticism lately, so what's the reason for your cant? And 'constructive criticism' - two foreign words in a row with a meaning, purposeful like 'round corner' or 'true lie'...
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Originally Posted by Slayer (Post 396733)
f**in hypocrites

Hypocrite would be if I don't like what I get, but glorify it, just because I am in a forum dedicated to an artist. You should learn to use foreign words correctly before you use them against other forum members here! I recommend 'Webster's New Encyclopedic Dictionary'.
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Originally Posted by thegurgi
sometimes all this pessimism and outrageous negativity while I know their working their butts off, FOR YOU, is a little unnerving.

Ok, to put it simple. It's only the product that counts in real business. If the customer is not satisfied he will complain. If I buy a new car and I have troubles with it all the time, I don't give a sh** if the guys worked their butts off, FOR ME, so unjust and heartless.

So, what do we have from Volkova the last couple of years or so? Two new boring songs under phonogram, with weak lyrics and uninspired arrangements, a few embarrassing appearances on some TV shows, one or two (very old) tatu songs in duet with another far more professional singer - playback again of course, a new lover who looks even more deranged than the former, and some face corrections which make her look like a porn star in her latest years of activity. I don't know if this is satisfying for a fan who is not a hypocrite. If her work progress doesn't show a significant move in some more promising direction, I would recommend to her what Artemij Troitskij did many years ago (Podnebesnaya) - take a rich guy and have many children, if she didn't already follow his advice.

So, now there is reason to complain about forum members' plain insulting, pessimism and outrageous negativity!

michael 30-08-2011 20:00

Julia is back in the studio tomorrow, recording new vocals for the single.

thegurgi 30-08-2011 21:26

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Originally Posted by Argos (Post 396741)
So, what do we have from Volkova the last couple of years or so? Two new boring songs under phonogram, with weak lyrics and uninspired arrangements, a few embarrassing appearances on some TV shows, one or two (very old) tatu songs in duet with another far more professional singer - playback again of course, a new lover who looks even more deranged than the former, and some face corrections which make her look like a porn star in her latest years of activity. I don't know if this is satisfying for a fan who is not a hypocrite. If her work progress doesn't show a significant move in some more promising direction, I would recommend to her what Artemij Troitskij did many years ago (Podnebesnaya) - take a rich guy and have many children, if she didn't already follow his advice.

So, now there is reason to complain about forum members' plain insulting, pessimism and outrageous negativity!

I'm surprised to see you lash out like this on, what is essentially, a 26 year old girl who left her former management and is trying, with no money, to do something with her career. Can we have no fucking benefit of the doubt? It doesn't matter how many times we say that she only released those demos because the fans were demanding to hear them. Julia only recorded them as essentially practice in the studio and her English. I was in the studio with her when they played Stand Up for her and the laundry list of changes she had, that were never made, was extremely long. As I said, it's tough with a high profile client because it's no longer this person i've never met before - this is someone i've had dinner with, sat on a couch with, talked on the phone with, emailed, worked with... and it's seems so fucking easy for ya'll to say these things. For me it's a bit more personal now... and I can see how for some old fans it still is. So let's just wait... for Julia and for her new management team it's learning game. We weren't fans of some well oiled machine - we were Tatu fans.... a band from Russia. I don't know why we ever expect any sort of stability... i'd also like to state that the amount I take any of the criticisms I see on these boards is very little. I understand and relate to where it all comes from - I merely have a new perspective now.


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