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nath 12-02-2005 08:11

Mylène Farmer
 
For those who know her , here the new single of Mylène Farmer: "Fuck Them All" which was on the radio wesdnesday 9th of february. The full album "Avant que l'Ombre.." (Before than the Shadow...) will be released the 7th of April.
http://www.nichya.net/denial/FarmerFThemAll.mp3
:rose: for Dear Miss Denial whom I use the serveur for this song..kiss


Fuck Them All

La nature est changeante
L'on respire comme ils mentent
De façon ravageuse
La nature est tueuse
Nature is changing
One breathes as they lie
In a devastating way
Nature is a killer


Au temps des favorites
Autant de réussite
Pour l’homme, qui derrière, a
Une belle qui s’affaire
At the time of the favorite ones
As much success
For the man, who behind, has
A beautiful(a woman) who busies( ?to busy)


Faire de la vie un empire (… tear)
Faire l’amour à Marie (… tear)
Et Marie est martyre (… tear)
Sur le mur nos soupirs
To make life an empire To transform Life in an empire(... tear)
To make love to Mary (... tear)
And Mary is martyrdom (... tear)
On the wall their are our sighs

FUCK THEM ALL
Faites l’amour, nous la guerre
Nos vies à l’envers
FUCK THEM ALL
Faites l’amour, nous la guerre
C’est nous, notre enfer
FUCK THEM ALL
Faites l’amour, nous la guerre
Nos vies à l’envers
ROCK AND SOUL
Faites l’amour, dans le texte
Le sens est le sexe
FUCK THEM ALL
Make love, us we make war
Our lives upside down(in revearse)
FUCK THEM ALL
Make love, us we make war
It’s us, our hell
FUCK THEM ALL
Make love, us we make war
Our lives upside down
ROCK'N'ROLL AND SOUL
Make love, in the text
The direction/meaning ? is the sex

De nature innocente
On manie élégance
Et d’une main experte
D’un glaive nous transperce
With innocent nature
We handle Elegance
And of an expert hand
Of (from ?) a sword transpierces us

Les discours trop prolixes
Que de la rhétorique
Lâchetés familières
Qui nous rendent guerrières
Too prolix speeches
Just rhetoric
Familiar cowardices
Which transform us in warriors

Faire de leur vie un empire
Faire l’amour à Marie (… tear)
Et Marie est martyre (… tear)
Sur le mur nos soupirs
To make life an empire /To transform Life in an empire(... tear)
To make love to Mary (... tear)
And Mary is martyrdom (... tear)
On the wall their are our sighs

FUCK THEM ALL
Faites l’amour, nous la guerre
Nos vies à l’envers
FUCK THEM ALL
Faites l’amour, nous la guerre
Signez, notre enfer
FUCK THEM ALL
Faites l’amour, nous la guerre
Nos vies à l’envers
ROCK AND SOUL
Faites l’amour, dans le texte
Le sens est le sexe....
FUCK THEM ALL
Make love, us we make war
Our lives upside down(in revearse)
FUCK THEM ALL
Make love, us we make war
Sign our Hell
FUCK THEM ALL
Make love, us we make war
Our lives upside down
ROCK'N'ROLL AND SOUL
Make love, in the text
The direction/meaning ? is the sex


One english part is missing but words are easy to understand... :rolleyes:
My translation is very bad so may be someone could help me to correct it ?...Haku , may I ask that to you, please...b advance thanks :)

forre 12-02-2005 09:14

Great song! Love it!

haku 12-02-2005 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by nath
Haku, may I ask that to you

Ok, i've found the complete lyrics on a fan site, and i've added the translation in english between brackets. :)

Fuck Them All

La nature est changeante (Nature is changing)
L'on respire comme ils mentent (We breathe as they lie)
De façon ravageuse (Devastatingly)
La nature est tueuse (Nature is a killer)

Au temps des favorites (At the time of "favorites" Note: In France, a "favorite" was the official mistress of a noble man)
Autant de réussites (So much success)
Pour l'homme qui derrière a (For a man who behind him has)
Une belle qui s'affaire (A beautiful woman working)

Faire de leur vie un empire (To transform their life into an empire)
Blood and tears
Faire l'amour à Marie (To make love to Marie)
Blood and tears
Et Marie est martyre (And Marie is a martyr)
Blood and tears
Sur le mur nos soupirs (On the wall are our sighs)

Fuck them all
Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, nos vices à l'envers (Make love, we make war, our vices upside down)
Fuck them all
Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, saignez notre enfer (Make love, we make war, bleed our hell)
Fuck them all
Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, nos vices à l'envers (Make love, we make war, our vices upside down)
Blood and soul
Faites le mou dans le texte (Make the soft in the text)
Le sens est le sexe (Sense and sex)

De nature innocente (Of innocent nature)
L'on manie élégance (We handle elegance)
Et d'une main experte (And with an expert hand)
Un glaive nous transperce (A sword pierces us)
Les discours trop prolixes (Too prolix speeches)
Que de la rhétorique (Only rhetoric)
Lacheté familière (Common cowardice)
Qui nous rendent guerrières (Which makes us warriors)

Faire de leur vie un empire (To transform their life into an empire)
Blood and tears
Faire l'amour à Marie (To make love to Marie)
Blood and tears
Et Marie est martyre (And Marie is a martyr)
Blood and tears
Sur le mur nos soupirs (On the wall are our sighs)

Fuck them all
Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, nos vies à l'envers (Make love, we make war, our lives upside down)
Fuck them all
Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, saignez notre enfer (Make love, we make war, bleed our hell)
Fuck them all
Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, nos vies à l'envers (Make love, we make war, our lives upside down)
Blood and soul
Faites le mou dans le texte (Make the soft in the text)
Le sens est le sexe (Sense and sex)

Hey bitch, you're not on the list
You witch! You suck! You bitch!
They said
Hey bitch, you're not on the list
You witch! He suck you, bitch!
They said
Hey bitch, you're not on the list
What's your name again?

QueenBee 12-02-2005 19:51

I like the song.. really powerful :D And the lyrics are very interesting too.
Thanks for the song Nath and Haku for the translation. :rose: x2

nath 12-02-2005 21:10

Thank so much Pat ! A lot of enormous kisses to you ! :) Merci....
Queenbee...so happy that you like the song and the lyrics...could you explain their meanings to me, please... :p a little lost here....Mylene is too "intellectual" for me :rolleyes: ...seriously ..i'ld be glad if you could give me your interpretation...

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Originally Posted by QueenBee
I like the song.. really powerful :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by forre
Great song! Love it!

I KNOW, I KNOW....everybody around me seems to like this song.... :rolleyes:
...Me I was waiting ....more.....I think the music is a little easy...i'm sure she will make a Top again but...I think that her music from 15 years ago was better...better sound , quality and a kind of more research in the arrangements...
for exemple I prefer this song ...in thinking , of course , it's 15 years old or more....
http://www.nichya.net/denial/Farmer_...ontrefacon.mp3

The title is "Without forgery I'm...a Boy"... :p

sasha 27-03-2005 04:16

Ahhh I've been waiting for years to hear something from her!

Quote:

Originally Posted by nath
I KNOW, I KNOW....everybody around me seems to like this song....

Have to say, after all this waiting I'm a bit disappointed. Ok more then a bit...

Quote:

Originally Posted by nath
...Me I was waiting ....more.....I think the music is a little easy...

Agree to that. I hope the other songs will be better. Just of curiosity..does anybody know who arranged the music? Please don't say Laurent cos then I'll be even more disappointed.

Still a BIG thanx Nath and Haku :10x: :10x:

XSpex 27-03-2005 06:32

I remember I read those lyrics somewhere... anyway, I have never heard this woman before, thank you for posting the link to the song :) :D .
I liked it, and from your comments now I am curious to hear more of her previous work :kawai:

spyretto 27-03-2005 07:54

Her previous work ( of almost a 20 year-old career but only like 5 or 6 studio albums ) comprises elements of goth, baroque, pop, dance, rock etc. Each album is different but the "classic" Mylene is the one of the first three albums - which are also my favourite.
She has made songs out of Baudelaire's poems and has shot videos like short movies - she was one of the first to do that in the history of the music video ( pretty controversial stuff too as some of her videos were banned in France ).

Anyway, "Fuck Them All" also has a video which is an incredible artistic work - and her best video in years - directed by Agusti Villaronga. Laurent wrote the music for the song :done:

video

I think it's about the destructive vicious circle of humanity but I'm not so sure...always difficult to interpret Mylene's words and videos.

I like the song a lot more now, the video version is great :done: Looking forward to listening to her full album, the first in 6 years.

sasha 27-03-2005 23:25

Thanx for the info spy :rose:

nath 28-03-2005 19:08

Hey bitch, you're not on the list
You witch! You suck! You bitch !
...
Hey Spy!..You know what I thi-ink ?...
This Clip is MA-GNI-FI-IC !
:p
I'm not crazy about the song but I really LOVE It !!!......because it is as the Mylène that I loved...the Mylène of Tristana....the one who doesn't need to show systematically her "a...s" to proove she is in the move....For me she is BEAUTIFUL in this clip ...and it's for YEARS that i dont think anymore that from her...she is simple but ELEGANT and has recovered her mystery!....

First mystery : How could she be the same physically than 18 years ago...hihi....

No, about the meaning of the clip I think it would be a good thing to get some informations about the reference mentionned in the clip: "from "Les épouvantails" de Martial Leiter"...
Indeed, by my side i don't search really the meaning right now.....just some flashes...
...the sound of the wind of "Giorgino"
...the horse of "Libertine....
...the snow of "Tristana"...
...the factory of ...I don't remember "Tout est K.o..." ...
...the crow of "L'autre'...
...the crow and Mylène/Witch in a cage..symbole of Inquistion...
...the stockings of Libertine and as Farmer's brand but discret , here...
..the short hair of...i don't remember the name of this clip , when she is with her puppet and a guy who is acting her puppet which becomes alive...
....her wonderful coat!!!....I mean it's an alegant coat as she use to wear before instead of her last Bit...ch clothes.....
..the mirror of Tristana White Snow..
...the dead Mylène as her puppet with the magician...
...the glave..as the sword of King Arthur...
...the grave as in "il n'y a pas d'ailleurs"....
...the glave and the coat , walking in the snow...the same shapes as "Le petit Prince " de Saint-Exupéry, excepted he walks in the desert..
...the tissus as in Inamorrata , I think...
....and the face of dead birds......
i don't want to say stupidities....but i'm pretty sure i saw these same faces in drawing ....I mostly think it is Max Ernst 's drawing...not 100% sure ...but I think so....

So....
Hello, tatysite's little members....!!!! What do you wait to look at this clip!!!!! It's a good farmer 's ONE ! Yeah !

Thanks a lot Spy....a kiss to you for the clip..... ;) :rose:

ps: http://www.lexpress.ch/loisirs/voyag...ouvantails.jpg "Les épouvantails" de Martial Leiter"

spyretto 28-03-2005 19:16

The song is cool too, you people check the video :)

you don't remember the video with the puppeteer? that's Sans Contrefacon, LOL :D

nikki 29-03-2005 01:01

I love the vid, Spy :D . Thanks. Hehe, I've always been interested in Mylene since I saw Libertine ...

I am on painkillers so I'm not making very much sense !

spyretto 29-03-2005 01:16

Quote:

First mystery : How could she be the same physically than 18 years ago...hihi....
answer: special makeup and a inspiring point of view from the director. I was really susprised by the video too...tell me who makes videos like these anymore ? ;)

forre 29-03-2005 05:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by nath
could you explain their meanings to me, please...

Here is my take. The song is built out of contradictions which resemble pretty much of the things happening around us and often referred as double standards, so Mylene says go to hell to double standards of the modern world. I don't know, I think the meaning is enough obvious.

Spy, thanks a bunch for the video! The video is absolutely fantastic!

nath 29-03-2005 06:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by forre
Here is my take. The song is built out of contradictions which resemble pretty much of the things happening around us and often referred as double standards, so Mylene says go to hell to double standards of the modern world. I don't know, I think the meaning is enough obvious.

:eek: I'm married with you ?!!!...My God! My Wife is a genious!!! :cry: but i don't even understand your explaination, babe.....If you begin to speak as Mylène Farmer ...I'm lost ! :p

XSpex 29-03-2005 06:43

spyretto, thank you very much for the video, It's great!
I like it, very dark and cold, good :), and the only colorful thing there is her hair hehe
Thanks nath for the info about the vid :)

"Fuck them all" specially dishonest people

spyretto 30-03-2005 05:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by forre
Here is my take. The song is built out of contradictions which resemble pretty much of the things happening around us and often referred as double standards, so Mylene says go to hell to double standards of the modern world. I don't know, I think the meaning is enough obvious.

I have a -possibly- false interpretation of the video in my mind: that MF herself is the perpetrator of her alter ego's killing who then goes to "avenge" her death, so the scarecrows are accomplices. She commits suicide -in a sense- afterwards, so it comes full circle. Maybe the little detail of the "black blood" pool morphing into a crow ( crow-scarecrow? ) is a clue? So the paranoid MF kills the innocent version of her - the one in the cage; but she's also a victim.

or then again, maybe not ;)

This silly reading of mine might hold some water when it comes to interpreting the song's message as aiming at society's hypocricy and double standards. The scarecrows - rigid, static - may be symbolic of our society's values, norms and preconceptions.

Consistent with the song's lyrics, we get the two sides of Mylene in the video, the delicate side ( the captive ) and the paranoid side ( the warrior ).

"Of innocent nature we handle elegance" ( the crows are the example )
"And with an expert hand a sword pierces us" ( but we are the ones who arm the hand, cause it's the world of our own making )

It makes sense to me that way.

forre 30-03-2005 05:45

Since Ms. Farmer doesn't give an impression of being any exceptional lyrics writer she leaves key phrases and then doubles them with examples. The key phrases are:

nos vices à l'envers (our vices upside down)
nos vies à l'envers (our lives upside down)

The rest is used to picture these statements.
(Of course, "Fuck them all" is another key)

So what do we have?
The values are upside down and fuck them all.

Spy, Why do you always delete your messages? Anything wrong with your computer? If not, please just use edit function.

spyretto 30-03-2005 06:10

No, some I delete cause I update them, this one was updated a few times. Then I don't like the "last edited by...etc" part, and by deleting and posting a new message it brings the message to the top.
It's my favourite feature you got on this forum :cool:

Others I delete cause I simply don't like: I might write something impulsively and then think it's either too crap or too offensive so then I delete it.

Is there a problem with deleting them then? I'd like the forum's approval to continue to do so, please. It's very important to me ;)

As for Mylene not being a particularly good writer, I wouldn't put my finger on it since I don't speak French; she didn't go into advanced education - as far as I know - and therefore her lyrics are good and challenging as far as popular music goes
Cause we're talking about popular music, not poetry :)

Have a good day :)

forre 30-03-2005 06:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by spyretto
Is there a problem with deleting them? I'd like the forum's approval to continue to do so, please. It's very important for me

As for Mylene not being a particularly good writer, I wouldn't put my finger on it since I don't speak French; she didn't go into advanced education - as far as I know - and therefore her lyrics are good and challenging as far as popular music goes
Cause we're talking about popular music, not poetry

No, it's okay to delete, you have the righ to do so. I was just wonderring.

It was not my point to disgrace Farmer in any way by saying that she apparently dosen't have any exceptional talents of writing her lyrics. It's about the structure of the lyrics where you can easily find the whole meaning in one phrase and the rest is just a sort of "chewing around" on the main idea. Of course it's okay for a pop-music or any music for that matter. It would do for an opera too, LOL!


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