Mylène Farmer
 

For those who know her , here the new single of Mylène Farmer: "Fuck Them All" which was on the radio wesdnesday 9th of february. The full album "Avant que l'Ombre.." (Before than the Shadow...) will be released the 7th of April.
http://www.nichya.net/denial/FarmerFThemAll.mp3
:rose: for Dear Miss Denial whom I use the serveur for this song..kiss


Fuck Them All

La nature est changeante
L'on respire comme ils mentent
De façon ravageuse
La nature est tueuse
Nature is changing
One breathes as they lie
In a devastating way
Nature is a killer


Au temps des favorites
Autant de réussite
Pour l’homme, qui derrière, a
Une belle qui s’affaire
At the time of the favorite ones
As much success
For the man, who behind, has
A beautiful(a woman) who busies( ?to busy)


Faire de la vie un empire (… tear)
Faire l’amour à Marie (… tear)
Et Marie est martyre (… tear)
Sur le mur nos soupirs
To make life an empire To transform Life in an empire(... tear)
To make love to Mary (... tear)
And Mary is martyrdom (... tear)
On the wall their are our sighs

FUCK THEM ALL
Faites l’amour, nous la guerre
Nos vies à l’envers
FUCK THEM ALL
Faites l’amour, nous la guerre
C’est nous, notre enfer
FUCK THEM ALL
Faites l’amour, nous la guerre
Nos vies à l’envers
ROCK AND SOUL
Faites l’amour, dans le texte
Le sens est le sexe
FUCK THEM ALL
Make love, us we make war
Our lives upside down(in revearse)
FUCK THEM ALL
Make love, us we make war
It’s us, our hell
FUCK THEM ALL
Make love, us we make war
Our lives upside down
ROCK'N'ROLL AND SOUL
Make love, in the text
The direction/meaning ? is the sex

De nature innocente
On manie élégance
Et d’une main experte
D’un glaive nous transperce
With innocent nature
We handle Elegance
And of an expert hand
Of (from ?) a sword transpierces us

Les discours trop prolixes
Que de la rhétorique
Lâchetés familières
Qui nous rendent guerrières
Too prolix speeches
Just rhetoric
Familiar cowardices
Which transform us in warriors

Faire de leur vie un empire
Faire l’amour à Marie (… tear)
Et Marie est martyre (… tear)
Sur le mur nos soupirs
To make life an empire /To transform Life in an empire(... tear)
To make love to Mary (... tear)
And Mary is martyrdom (... tear)
On the wall their are our sighs

FUCK THEM ALL
Faites l’amour, nous la guerre
Nos vies à l’envers
FUCK THEM ALL
Faites l’amour, nous la guerre
Signez, notre enfer
FUCK THEM ALL
Faites l’amour, nous la guerre
Nos vies à l’envers
ROCK AND SOUL
Faites l’amour, dans le texte
Le sens est le sexe....
FUCK THEM ALL
Make love, us we make war
Our lives upside down(in revearse)
FUCK THEM ALL
Make love, us we make war
Sign our Hell
FUCK THEM ALL
Make love, us we make war
Our lives upside down
ROCK'N'ROLL AND SOUL
Make love, in the text
The direction/meaning ? is the sex

One english part is missing but words are easy to understand... :rolleyes:
My translation is very bad so may be someone could help me to correct it ?...Haku , may I ask that to you, please...b advance thanks :)

Great song! Love it!

Ok, i've found the complete lyrics on a fan site, and i've added the translation in english between brackets. :)

Fuck Them All

La nature est changeante (Nature is changing)
L'on respire comme ils mentent (We breathe as they lie)
De façon ravageuse (Devastatingly)
La nature est tueuse (Nature is a killer)

Au temps des favorites (At the time of "favorites" Note: In France, a "favorite" was the official mistress of a noble man)
Autant de réussites (So much success)
Pour l'homme qui derrière a (For a man who behind him has)
Une belle qui s'affaire (A beautiful woman working)

Faire de leur vie un empire (To transform their life into an empire)
Blood and tears
Faire l'amour à Marie (To make love to Marie)
Blood and tears
Et Marie est martyre (And Marie is a martyr)
Blood and tears
Sur le mur nos soupirs (On the wall are our sighs)

Fuck them all
Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, nos vices à l'envers (Make love, we make war, our vices upside down)
Fuck them all
Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, saignez notre enfer (Make love, we make war, bleed our hell)
Fuck them all
Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, nos vices à l'envers (Make love, we make war, our vices upside down)
Blood and soul
Faites le mou dans le texte (Make the soft in the text)
Le sens est le sexe (Sense and sex)

De nature innocente (Of innocent nature)
L'on manie élégance (We handle elegance)
Et d'une main experte (And with an expert hand)
Un glaive nous transperce (A sword pierces us)
Les discours trop prolixes (Too prolix speeches)
Que de la rhétorique (Only rhetoric)
Lacheté familière (Common cowardice)
Qui nous rendent guerrières (Which makes us warriors)

Faire de leur vie un empire (To transform their life into an empire)
Blood and tears
Faire l'amour à Marie (To make love to Marie)
Blood and tears
Et Marie est martyre (And Marie is a martyr)
Blood and tears
Sur le mur nos soupirs (On the wall are our sighs)

Fuck them all
Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, nos vies à l'envers (Make love, we make war, our lives upside down)
Fuck them all
Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, saignez notre enfer (Make love, we make war, bleed our hell)
Fuck them all
Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, nos vies à l'envers (Make love, we make war, our lives upside down)
Blood and soul
Faites le mou dans le texte (Make the soft in the text)
Le sens est le sexe (Sense and sex)

Hey bitch, you're not on the list
You witch! You suck! You bitch!
They said
Hey bitch, you're not on the list
You witch! He suck you, bitch!
They said
Hey bitch, you're not on the list
What's your name again?

I like the song.. really powerful :D And the lyrics are very interesting too.
Thanks for the song Nath and Haku for the translation. :rose: x2

Thank so much Pat ! A lot of enormous kisses to you ! :) Merci....
Queenbee...so happy that you like the song and the lyrics...could you explain their meanings to me, please... :p a little lost here....Mylene is too "intellectual" for me :rolleyes: ...seriously ..i'ld be glad if you could give me your interpretation...

I KNOW, I KNOW....everybody around me seems to like this song.... :rolleyes:
...Me I was waiting ....more.....I think the music is a little easy...i'm sure she will make a Top again but...I think that her music from 15 years ago was better...better sound , quality and a kind of more research in the arrangements...
for exemple I prefer this song ...in thinking , of course , it's 15 years old or more....
http://www.nichya.net/denial/Farmer_...ontrefacon.mp3

The title is "Without forgery I'm...a Boy"... :p

Ahhh I've been waiting for years to hear something from her!

Have to say, after all this waiting I'm a bit disappointed. Ok more then a bit...

Agree to that. I hope the other songs will be better. Just of curiosity..does anybody know who arranged the music? Please don't say Laurent cos then I'll be even more disappointed.

Still a BIG thanx Nath and Haku :10x: :10x:

I remember I read those lyrics somewhere... anyway, I have never heard this woman before, thank you for posting the link to the song :) :D .
I liked it, and from your comments now I am curious to hear more of her previous work :kawai:

Her previous work ( of almost a 20 year-old career but only like 5 or 6 studio albums ) comprises elements of goth, baroque, pop, dance, rock etc. Each album is different but the "classic" Mylene is the one of the first three albums - which are also my favourite.
She has made songs out of Baudelaire's poems and has shot videos like short movies - she was one of the first to do that in the history of the music video ( pretty controversial stuff too as some of her videos were banned in France ).

Anyway, "Fuck Them All" also has a video which is an incredible artistic work - and her best video in years - directed by Agusti Villaronga. Laurent wrote the music for the song :done:

video

I think it's about the destructive vicious circle of humanity but I'm not so sure...always difficult to interpret Mylene's words and videos.

I like the song a lot more now, the video version is great :done: Looking forward to listening to her full album, the first in 6 years.

Thanx for the info spy :rose:

Hey bitch, you're not on the list
You witch! You suck! You bitch !
...
Hey Spy!..You know what I thi-ink ?...
This Clip is MA-GNI-FI-IC ! :p
I'm not crazy about the song but I really LOVE It !!!......because it is as the Mylène that I loved...the Mylène of Tristana....the one who doesn't need to show systematically her "a...s" to proove she is in the move....For me she is BEAUTIFUL in this clip ...and it's for YEARS that i dont think anymore that from her...she is simple but ELEGANT and has recovered her mystery!....

First mystery : How could she be the same physically than 18 years ago...hihi....

No, about the meaning of the clip I think it would be a good thing to get some informations about the reference mentionned in the clip: "from "Les épouvantails" de Martial Leiter"...
Indeed, by my side i don't search really the meaning right now.....just some flashes...
...the sound of the wind of "Giorgino"
...the horse of "Libertine....
...the snow of "Tristana"...
...the factory of ...I don't remember "Tout est K.o..." ...
...the crow of "L'autre'...
...the crow and Mylène/Witch in a cage..symbole of Inquistion...
...the stockings of Libertine and as Farmer's brand but discret , here...
..the short hair of...i don't remember the name of this clip , when she is with her puppet and a guy who is acting her puppet which becomes alive...
....her wonderful coat!!!....I mean it's an alegant coat as she use to wear before instead of her last Bit...ch clothes.....
..the mirror of Tristana White Snow..
...the dead Mylène as her puppet with the magician...
...the glave..as the sword of King Arthur...
...the grave as in "il n'y a pas d'ailleurs"....
...the glave and the coat , walking in the snow...the same shapes as "Le petit Prince " de Saint-Exupéry, excepted he walks in the desert..
...the tissus as in Inamorrata , I think...
....and the face of dead birds......
i don't want to say stupidities....but i'm pretty sure i saw these same faces in drawing ....I mostly think it is Max Ernst 's drawing...not 100% sure ...but I think so....

So....
Hello, tatysite's little members....!!!! What do you wait to look at this clip!!!!! It's a good farmer 's ONE ! Yeah !

Thanks a lot Spy....a kiss to you for the clip..... ;) :rose:

ps: http://www.lexpress.ch/loisirs/voyag...ouvantails.jpg "Les épouvantails" de Martial Leiter"

The song is cool too, you people check the video :)

you don't remember the video with the puppeteer? that's Sans Contrefacon, LOL :D

I love the vid, Spy :D . Thanks. Hehe, I've always been interested in Mylene since I saw Libertine ...

I am on painkillers so I'm not making very much sense !

answer: special makeup and a inspiring point of view from the director. I was really susprised by the video too...tell me who makes videos like these anymore ? ;)

Here is my take. The song is built out of contradictions which resemble pretty much of the things happening around us and often referred as double standards, so Mylene says go to hell to double standards of the modern world. I don't know, I think the meaning is enough obvious.

Spy, thanks a bunch for the video! The video is absolutely fantastic!

:eek: I'm married with you ?!!!...My God! My Wife is a genious!!! :cry: but i don't even understand your explaination, babe.....If you begin to speak as Mylène Farmer ...I'm lost ! :p

spyretto, thank you very much for the video, It's great!
I like it, very dark and cold, good :), and the only colorful thing there is her hair hehe
Thanks nath for the info about the vid :)

"Fuck them all" specially dishonest people

I have a -possibly- false interpretation of the video in my mind: that MF herself is the perpetrator of her alter ego's killing who then goes to "avenge" her death, so the scarecrows are accomplices. She commits suicide -in a sense- afterwards, so it comes full circle. Maybe the little detail of the "black blood" pool morphing into a crow ( crow-scarecrow? ) is a clue? So the paranoid MF kills the innocent version of her - the one in the cage; but she's also a victim.

or then again, maybe not ;)

This silly reading of mine might hold some water when it comes to interpreting the song's message as aiming at society's hypocricy and double standards. The scarecrows - rigid, static - may be symbolic of our society's values, norms and preconceptions.

Consistent with the song's lyrics, we get the two sides of Mylene in the video, the delicate side ( the captive ) and the paranoid side ( the warrior ).

"Of innocent nature we handle elegance" ( the crows are the example )
"And with an expert hand a sword pierces us" ( but we are the ones who arm the hand, cause it's the world of our own making )

It makes sense to me that way.

Since Ms. Farmer doesn't give an impression of being any exceptional lyrics writer she leaves key phrases and then doubles them with examples. The key phrases are:

nos vices à l'envers (our vices upside down)
nos vies à l'envers (our lives upside down)

The rest is used to picture these statements.
(Of course, "Fuck them all" is another key)

So what do we have?
The values are upside down and fuck them all.

Spy, Why do you always delete your messages? Anything wrong with your computer? If not, please just use edit function.

No, some I delete cause I update them, this one was updated a few times. Then I don't like the "last edited by...etc" part, and by deleting and posting a new message it brings the message to the top.
It's my favourite feature you got on this forum :cool:

Others I delete cause I simply don't like: I might write something impulsively and then think it's either too crap or too offensive so then I delete it.

Is there a problem with deleting them then? I'd like the forum's approval to continue to do so, please. It's very important to me ;)

As for Mylene not being a particularly good writer, I wouldn't put my finger on it since I don't speak French; she didn't go into advanced education - as far as I know - and therefore her lyrics are good and challenging as far as popular music goes
Cause we're talking about popular music, not poetry :)

Have a good day :)

No, it's okay to delete, you have the righ to do so. I was just wonderring.

It was not my point to disgrace Farmer in any way by saying that she apparently dosen't have any exceptional talents of writing her lyrics. It's about the structure of the lyrics where you can easily find the whole meaning in one phrase and the rest is just a sort of "chewing around" on the main idea. Of course it's okay for a pop-music or any music for that matter. It would do for an opera too, LOL!

Well ;)

It's easy for you to say, cause you use refined methods to get the message straight away. Others may be still confused, wondering about her lyrics, and I'm sure her fans have jumped on the wagon of trying to give different interpretations.

"Is it about Afghanistan?", "is it a feminist critique?"? "is it this? is it that?

Well, I think it's what you say it is, cause Mme Farmer would rather take refuge in universal truths than refer to things so specific. She has built a myth of herself over the years and is doing a good job at holding on to it for dear life. Others have lost it.

I'll try to reduce the habit of deleting messages, so we're all happy ;)

i don't see that like that ...the captive mylène "is" in a cage as a "witch" for me....i mean cut hair, prisonner robe... the interpretation of "witch" ...in the middle age "witches" might be linked to "magie" ,bad conception of religion or Sexe....things which ere against the "moral"..

So i don't think Mylène killed the Mylène captive....think this last one was killed by the Society because she acted against the trditionnal moral....

So the Black Mylène come to "avenge" her and fights against the all anonymous, power, religious frighting members...the traditionnal society...
So she returns the situation : usally men said "Faites l'amour, nous la guerre"....here she becomes a warrior herself...

Who could be the black Mylène ? I mean which relations with the captive Mylène ? She could be her "emotionnal, thoughts" sister....(another person who is in the same position...agaisnt the traditionnal moral...)...she could be her real sister....she could be her Ghost, fantôme...reincarnation....I mean she could be the captive Mylène who comes back to have a revange...so when she acts she thinks about the captive Mylène , her previous life....flash-back...She has her vengeance in usisng the "society, men" weapon: the War instead of the traditionnal role devoted to women : Love..., with her friends , the crows (traditionnal friends of witches...not as a symbol of rigidity or society , for my part...Mylène awlays loved the crows...they are the symbol of all what is occulte...)....
When her vengeance is accomplish, she diseapppar in dust or little crows to fly and go further with the wind and fight again against the Injustice of Society which doesn't recognize difference way of life......

I feel it as a song against the Society linked to Tradition and Religion/Power (the allusion to Marie /Martyr is Strong in the song and dead Mylène apppears in the clip as a true Martyr... victim....The witch becomes a Saint/Holy)..

I saw a question of Nath's to help with the meaning and answered it. I said why there's a key and what purpose all the additional info has. I don't know why her fans think of her as a sort of myth. If you are searching for another weird artist with more international success, then Bjork is a good example. Farmer is good, her songs are fine.

..almost a feminist reading nath good :)

Well, I held on to one specific effect for my interpretation: from the blood of the scarecrows a new crow is morphed. I thought that had some significance.
On the other hand, she was always fond of playing heroines ( of sorts ) in her videos.

P.S. Bjork? Why not Madonna - with more international recognition and she's also a better dancer ;)

The world of Farmer is : occulte, communications with Dead people, all things linked with Death, opposition to society with her "Witch Side: sexe linked to Evil, death communication..."...She loved Allan Edgar Poe and this one wrote a lot about The Double..."Wilson Wilson" and so on...
I mean ...Farmer I think was during some times in a Religious School Institution when she was a kiddie or a teenager and she is a rebell agaisnt that ...

Not really a Feminist but Religion & Power & Laaws are Masculine.....so femisnist indeed...but i don't feel her as a feminist to "get more"...but just as a feminist to "repear/ fix" the injustice....
Faites l'Amour, Nous la guerre: Men are made to make War so have the Power, Women have just to shut up and make love..

Madonna used religion as a provocation...but she seems enough structured in her head....Mylène isn't clear at all in her head ...and I don't know Björn but she seems worse...with more creatiity and talent I think...but Björn could be dramatic but I feel her with more positive sides, more light sides than farmer who doesn't seems to advance ...she statys in the same state for 20 years...closed in her dark aspect...

I'm sort of a fan of her work - not really a fan of her person - but when I was referring to creating a myth I meant it this way: she's avoiding the public eye as much as possible. We always see the artist (actor) Farmer and not the real person. Doesn't give interviews. So the less you see of her the more of a myth is created around her name.
So I said she's trying to preserve the myth and mystery she constructed around her name, if that makes any sense.

As for Madonna and Bjork..well, no, I don't think so. Not my cup of tea at all. Bjork is plain weird, and not evolving much as an artist. As for Madonna..well, I'd rather not say. But I understand where they're coming from.

Nath informed me yesterday that the trick is borrowed from Garbo. ;)

It's not about the myths anyway, Farmer is sending an important message. She has a very good but somewhat critical perseption of the world and she's good at telling that to the audience.

In France I think we have 2 Stars in the meaning of Garbo Or Louise Brooks: secret , who seem unaccessible....Farmer and Isabelle Adjani.....but , by my side, I think if they 'ld make the tatysite test of nevrotic pathologies , they'ld be both Very High n all the options ..hhih...
But here , the question is : "Is it possible to be a "creator", an artist if you 're without "nevrose", psychological problems or fragilities?"....If you're perfectly okay with yourself , why this desire to show you to the public , or to write to share ?

So, she sees herself as a heroine again...a bit vain for my liking but it's her. She could have done it a little more powerful in that case though. We don't see much in a way of a story.

'Cause you can become rich and famous? ;)

it's not the first or the last who is nihilistic in her approach--> these ones lie! hihi! to say I love nobody , i care of nothing s just the protected way to say "I want everybody loves ME!" hihihi...always the same story ....hahah...these ones are the worse narcissics... :D

We had Arnold the Terminator ...now we have Spy The Ereaser....hihi...it was the nickname of Jean Reno in "Leon".... :p

Track 1 Avant que L'ombre, beautiful beautiful song, her falsetto at the end, amazing.
Track 2 Fuck Them All, alas, the only rocking song of the album.
Track 14 Et Pourtant, very nice ballad, Mylene's trademark.

The rest are fillers, they sound like Alizee's songs only they're WORSE.
I'm pretty disappointed but her fans seem to like this work so... :rolleyes:

I think 'Fuck them all' is a great song, except the parts where they say 'fuck them all'. It's so annoying and stupid imo. :bum:

Thanks nath!

I have the feeling that Track 13 - Peut-être Toi could work ...with a better mixage...."Shut Up, Shut Up,Shut Up..."...it could work in the gay night-club.....*by the way Mylène has improved in english!.. ;) *

Well, now that I listened a bit more to her album I think that all the songs are interesting for about a minute. All the ideas are exhausted after that, and they degenarate into boredom. It's as if they had some ideas but they couldn't develop them into a 4 minute-song that'd be interesting enough, or maybe they only had few ideas for too many songs. Quantity is not always quality.
Peut-etre Toi for example, it starts well, you expect a spark to come out from somewhere but it doesn't. Same with almost all the rest of the songs.

It's intruiging, because you want to keep on listening hoping that you'll start liking the song but there's not much there, neither a grower nor an instant hook. Most of the choruses are weak ( example: Tous Ces Combats, nice start WEAK chorus ).

She has improved her English, how? Cause she uses English phrases? It reminds me of japanese pop, LOL

in silence solehwa
in silence hatehshinaku
in silence sotto
oh my heart mayotteh ita

:D

Okay... I know this is WAY of topic... but could someone tell me how "Mylène" is pronounced? I'm wondering especially cause of the funky "è" in the middle.

the stress goes where there's a stress Mylene..last "e" is silent :)

Thanks. That's what I thought. :p