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Old 31-01-2011, 23:00   #1
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Eurovision 2011(Germany)

The contest will take place in Dusseldorf.

Famous boyband Blue will be representing the UK with their new song "I Can". That's a big thing for me as they were so popular in Europe when they kept releasing singles.

Previous winner of the contest Lena will compete again for Germany.

According to a gossip, UK band Hurts submitted a song for Russian selection (wtf?)

Several countries have selected their songs but none of them is worth a second listen.

Tell us what your country has to offer for Eurovision!

My country-Turkey- selected the band Yüksek Sadakat(High Fidelity in English) and the song is still to be announced.
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Old 01-02-2011, 01:26   #2
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On February 12th the finals in Norway will be held, so our contribution will be known then. Also this year an extreme metal band is applying, Susperia, but their song fell out of the first semi finals and are part of the "second chance" knock out. Probably won't make it, so it'll most likely be the generic sappy crap this year as well

The metal song isn't that good either. It's toned down. The vocalist doesn't do his normal raspy growling vocals, but sings clean, and the melody is borderline happy metal. I guess they hoped that would make it more likely to win, but meh... Hehe. Listen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEQOUEG1mPs
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Old 01-02-2011, 14:06   #3
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Apparently we have the retarded boyband Blue performing for us. Yet another epic UK fail!
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Old 01-02-2011, 14:40   #4
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Hehe. Listen here
Last year Keep Of Kalesin's effort was much better. Some song from two girls called "Ah Oh" is the favourie I guess.
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Old 01-02-2011, 23:02   #5
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I loove a song from Ukranian selection, a girl with a great voice and a piece that may get the title in Dusseldorf.

Zlata Ognevich - Kukushka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd_N6VsdIuQ
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Old 02-02-2011, 19:50   #6
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I loove a song from Ukranian selection, a girl with a great voice and a piece that may get the title in Dusseldorf.

Zlata Ognevich - Kukushka
Unfortunately she isn't yet qualified, the national final is on Feb. 27th and there are other candidates with good chances too. Especially the much better known artists like Jamala (everybody's darling), Anastasiya Prihod'ko (represented Russia two years ago) and Mika Newton with the song Angel. I wouldn't even exclude the girl group A.R.M.I.A from the favourites list with their song Allo, allo, but they still have problems with the "fine-tuning" of their voices (their plus being more on the dancing side than on the singing skills) although they hired a top lead singer recently for their ESC enterprise.
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What do you mean by "qualified"? I thought that she qualified to the national final?

I love Jamala's and Prikhodko's songs too but I love Kukushka more

And to add a new thing. The national tv would not pay any money to the PR activities of the song. In that case they would like to have someone with money and we know who got more money than any other, that is Prikhodko, in fact she won the Russian national final the same way two year ago.

What about Russian selection? I don't know anything about it.
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Old 02-02-2011, 22:05   #8
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I thought that she qualified to the national final?
Yes, of course she is. But she has not won it and with time other artists get better chances (when the artistical value gets less important than the economical one). Well, Prihod'ko isn't very rich, she won Russia's qualification because of her (meanwhile ex-)producer Konstantin Meladze and the wife of the boss of Channel One (Nastya's artistical and executive Star Factory producers). If bribe (main sport in Ukraine!) and advertising plays the dominating role then A.R.M.I.A should be the winner. Producer Yurij Nikitin has five successful girlgroups running (plus Verka Serdyuchka), which brings him more money than any other project of the contest.

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I love Jamala's and Prikhodko's songs too but I love Kukushka more
Jamala gets really good only late in the song. I think the song is not competitive enough to win. Prihod'ko's song is quite an image change. Not sure if her fans will support her enough.

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What about Russian selection? I don't know anything about it.
Insider joke: Russia wants to get into the Guiness Book. On one day they will publish the conditions of participation, make the selection and prepare everything necessary for the departure of the winner to Germany.
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Old 03-02-2011, 13:28   #9
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So much info, thanks Argos! That Armiya is like Ukranian Pussycat Dolls!

I don't think Russia will go for national final, they would choose internally. Who do you think Perviy Kanal would offer to? Could it be Yulia?
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Old 03-02-2011, 16:51   #10
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I don't think Russia will go for national final, they would choose internally. Who do you think Perviy Kanal would offer to? Could it be Yulia?
My last information is this:
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ВЕРА, Россия, Пермь | Интерактив | 16:12, 01/02/2011:
Здравствуйте. Скажите, пожалуйста, когда же начнется отбор на Евровидение? В других странах отбор или вовсю идет, или уже прошел. А у нас - мертвая тишина. Или, может быть, отбора не будет? Первый канал сам назначит участника?

Первый канал:
Вера, отбор скоро начнется. О его начале будет сообщено в эфире и на сайте.
Some Vera asked the channel two days ago:
Hello. Tell me please, when will begin the selection of Eurovision? In other countries the selection is either in full motion, or already done. But here - deadly silence. Or, maybe there will be no selection? Channel One will choose the participant on their own?

Channel One:
Vera, the selection will begin soon. There will be a notice about it's beginning on air and on the site.


By the way, an intermediate result of Ukrainian fan votings. Moronic...
El' Kravchuk on No1, do they have bees in the ears? And Zlata far behind!

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Old 03-02-2011, 23:32   #11
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I read something that there was a cheating on the online voting. They say Jamala's votes are overcounted but who knows.
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The Polish song is just amazing!and the girl is very beautiful

Magdalena Tul - Jestem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrCLhva9Bks
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Old 26-02-2011, 22:27   #13
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Ok, this is Austria's entry, and I swear I didn't vote for her! At least she wrote this herself.
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Blah, really boring. Trackshittaz were much much better

Ukraine chose another boring ballad from Mika Newton amongst a good number of interesting acts.

Wanna listen to the Turkish song? We could even win this time from this bunch of garbage.

Yüksek Sadakat - Live It Up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn3E351esUI
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Blah, really boring. Trackshittaz were much much better
Usually I can't bear hip-hop. But "Oida, taunz!" is a masterpiece (of plain nonsense, of course! )....and we paranoids are sure that the votings were manipulated.
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Ukraine chose another boring ballad from Mika Newton amongst a good number of interesting acts.
Mika won because of the SMS votings. She has a huge armada of young fans. Jamala lost because the head of the jury dislikes her and made official statements against her about a week ago. Zlata was too new to gather enough fans. It would have been interesting , if ARMIA could have won, but they cancelled and travelled to South America instead, to the more important contest in Chile, Vina del Mar.
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Yüksek Sadakat - Live It Up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn3E351esUI
Probably too tame performance for a rock number.

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Mika won because of the SMS votings.
She became first in every section. SMS, Internet voting and jury choices. Zlata Ognevich became second in SMS and jury but behind in Internet voting.
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She became first in every section. SMS, Internet voting and jury choices. Zlata Ognevich became second in SMS and jury but behind in Internet voting.
Yes right, but the jury votes were after the fan votes were known, so despite their weight of 45% it wasn't important, they just 'confirmed' the results. The internet voting (10%) was almost a draw between Mika and Jamala, where Zlata was only 7th (un-thanks to the lack of internet presence of the newcomer). The winning margin of Mika in the SMS votes was huge and therefore the winner was determined even before the final show.

For Ukraine as well as for Russia there is a simple rule to have good results in ESC. Get a well known performer with a song which goes to heart (if you don't have something super-duper). This makes people in the (not so different) neighbouring countries vote for you. Zlata could have got more points in the west, but she would have failed in the 'dominion'. There was no reason for the jury to overrule the results of the peoples' choice. The only question was: Is Mika still known in the neighbouring countries, after she was practically absent during the last three years? By the way, her singing performance was by far the best I've ever heard from her.
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I think the song is ok, and think the same way. It'll be in the final thanks to the voting of neighbouring countries. So WTF about Russia? Did they forget that they have to choose a song
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So WTF about Russia? Did they forget that they have to choose a song
Everything is done secretly. It seems that they don't have enough interested parties. Good people have no money for this adventure. We have a few names, but they all are unimportant. There are rumours that the timeline for the handover of the candidates' songs was Feb. 21st, and the Final would be on Mar. 5th, but there is no sign of it on Channel One. There will probably be some ex-Star Factory member still in contract with Channel One, or some wealthy singer like Elena Esenina, Pavla or Pyotr Nalich (last years' embarassment), but there are rumours that Glyuk'oza might be chosen. She released a song these days, Vzmah, for which there is an English version too (although there are no obvious international ambitions from the singer). But Natasha isn't used to sing live. Another possibility is to invite some Ukrainian with international ambitions, because Russia is in serious lack of young, strong singers. They don't even have great performing acts. Their scene is artistically completely down.
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Another possibility is to invite some Ukrainian with international ambitions
How I wish it would come true! After last night's disappointment from Ukraine, remaining songs will do it for Russia, especially Zlata Ognevich and Jamala!!

By the way, the Glukoza song is cool! It could be chosen too.

It's said that babushki group which became second last year is invited too.
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