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Old 26-06-2009, 02:39   #1
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RIP Michael Jackson, August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009

I can't believe he's gone.

Unfortunately most of my memory of him mainly consists of persisent (and convincing) allegations of paedophilia, but I can't help but be ridiculously sad about all this.

I'm (most of us) are too young to have been alive during the 70s and 80s to experience him at his finest but he's been such a presence throughout pop culture; now we're just left with just his imitators.

My parents said that while we were living in the Middle East, Western Music music wasn't exactly listened to often as it is now (never reciprocated, unfortunately). Though the Beatles were known somewhat, there wasn't much of a mania happening anywhere else aside from Western Europe and N.America. If anything it was Boney M but they are pretty much unknown here in N.America, even now. I think it was Michael Jackson that was the first to actually break through that divide. He's left such a legacy.

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Old 26-06-2009, 02:50   #2
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When i saw the news ... it was utterly shocking. Growing up in late 80s and early 90s, Michael Jackson was like the soundtrack of my childhood. Every classic song conjures up vivid memories. It's weird... i was never a huge MJ fan and i wasn't too concerned or interested by his personal quarries (i try to not care about the lives of celebrities). You just don't expect to loose an icon of your culture and youth to be gone. Three American Icons dead in the span of a few days. It's odd.
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Old 26-06-2009, 02:59   #3
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It sucks. He was one of those icons you never thought would pass away ... but to be honest, he had been living overdue for some years now. It was just a matter of time.

Luckily he left behind him an amazing collection of music and a memory that will live on for all eternity.
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Old 26-06-2009, 03:48   #4
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He was a real king the time he was active. Such a shame he died... RIP.
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Old 26-06-2009, 04:17   #5
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I cant believe it, my mother gave me and my friends the shocking news, I´m shock,RIP King Of Pop, I really liked some of his songs, condolence to his brothers , sisters and his children
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Old 26-06-2009, 04:51   #6
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I've been watching about it all day. So sad that he's overshadowing Farrah, I truly feel sad for both losses. It's terrible. At least Farrah lived a happy life, poor Michael though...damn. Rest in peace my idol.
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Old 26-06-2009, 05:10   #7
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WHAT.
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I can't believe this It's like Pavarotti... you think they will never die.
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Old 26-06-2009, 08:32   #8
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This is really unexpected and pretty sad. You just - like QueenBee said - don't expect someone like that dies.
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Old 26-06-2009, 10:08   #9
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I'm still in shock...

Don't know what to say. Still can't believe it...
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Old 26-06-2009, 10:40   #10
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Farrah's death has affected me more than the Jackson one. I was never a fan of him whatsoever but i appreciate that there are many people upset by his death and have a love for his music. The guy was a good musician but he was far from an angel.
He started his career as a happy go lucky guy who slowly allowed himself to descend into murkier waters. The last 20 years of his life were plagued with child abuse accusations whether it be the molestation of other kids or hanging his own over a balcony!
Unfortunately that is the image that will forever stay in my mind for MJ...
Another thing that has pissed me off about his death is the whole upsurge of people posting statuses on Facebook cooing "Aww what a shame.. RIP Michael" etc when in reality that is utter shite! I was disgusted by many people's hypocrisy as given half a chance (and a gun) they would have killed him over the past few years due to his shenanigans. And not one person here can deny that they have laughed at or pulled a crude MJ joke.
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Old 26-06-2009, 13:32   #11
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AshMcAuliffe, what was the outcome of the child molestation accusations? I'm wondering because I didn't exactly follow that, so I have no idea what happened there.

My theory on Michael is that he is (was... omg) a very sick person. I don't mean sick like "Ewww pedophile" because like I said, I had no idea if there was any truth to that, but I mean I think he was mentally ill.

From what I've heard:
Growing up, his father was very abusive and perfection was very important. Apparently Michael and his brothers got beaten a lot and had to practice their little routines for hours on end, or else their father would get upset. I think the dad was the worst to Michael? I don't know exactly, but the image you got of that family is not a good one.

Also he obviously didn't have a real childhood, especially if the thing with his father is true. In that case it's easy to understand that Michael never had any time to do what he wanted, because he was either performing or practicing.

(I admit that I'm not sure if all of this is 100% true but that's what I think)

Now look at his adult life. It is so clearly obvious that Michael is (...was) messed up in the head from all that. His voice was that of a prepubescent boy. I don't know if that had anything to do with some illness or not, but he sounded so soft and innocent when he spoke.

He acted very childish too. I think the whole Neverland ranch thing was him acting out his childhood fantasies. He never got to be a little boy or grow up like most men do, leaving the boy-phase and entering the man-phase of his life. Like I said, I don't know what happened to the molestation accusations, but my guess is he never hurt anyone. He was around little boys so much (and eh, let them sleep in his bed) because he was like one of them, or I guess, he wanted to be one of them. Creepy as hell, yes.

Look at this video. Is that really a portrayal of a grown man? It's not even an adult just acting silly, it's like a little boy in a man's body.

My "theory" may be complete bull, but that's just always what I've thought of him. He made some great music and is a legend, yes, but he's a mentally disturbed MAN with many issues, in my eyes.

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Old 26-06-2009, 13:59   #12
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Unfortunately that is the image that will forever stay in my mind for MJ...
You know what, I think that will be mostly forgotten in 5 years. Over here you only hear about those kinda things when people wanna joke about MJ in a discussion - and that doesn't happen very often. As for comedians joking about it; it's not really so much fun to joke about a dead guy, and after a while people don't really care anymore. Even though it'll never go completely away (and should it?) I'm quite sure it will grow old in a while. VH1 will still play their Top 50 Michael Jackson songs now and then. People will still buy the albums and watch the live recordings. We won't hear about all the drama around the last part of his life, cuz that's one of those things that will grow out of date.

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Another thing that has pissed me off about his death is the whole upsurge of people posting statuses on Facebook cooing "Aww what a shame.. RIP Michael" etc when in reality that is utter shite! I was disgusted by many people's hypocrisy as given half a chance (and a gun) they would have killed him over the past few years due to his shenanigans. And not one person here can deny that they have laughed at or pulled a crude MJ joke.
Completely agree. The day I publicly mourn over the death of someone's life it'll be someone who stand a little closer to me than a celebrity pop artist. But I'll say that some are hardcore fan of the guy, and those were the same that probably defended him in the whole pedophilia-drama, so it would make sense for them to publicly show some sorrow on such a day... but for everyone who never really had any ties to the fellow to shed tears on facebook; it seems hypocritical, and it's so transparent and meaningless to mourn when you really couldn't give a rat's ass. They'd give him life over accusations on pedophilia, they'd take his kid away from him on accusations of bad parenting, they don't listen to his music other than on the radio and have no albums in the house, but still they cry when he die - Pfff... I prefer consistancy!
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Old 26-06-2009, 14:29   #13
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In my city there had been an MJ Tribute Band concert planed for today for weeks. I was actually going to go but i didn't buy a ticket in advance cause a friend assured me 'there's no way it will sell out' ... well it did. Very coincidental. They added a second, late show. I just got my ticket... it's going to be strange - i hope they do dirty diana.
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Old 26-06-2009, 16:40   #14
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He was one of those icons you never thought would pass away
I just thought this when I saw it on the news.I am sad.I'm not a fan of his but just few names become such big in the world.Will remember him by some of his songs like Billie Jean,Beat It and...
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Old 26-06-2009, 16:59   #15
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Despite all of the contriversy surrounding him (the pedophilia accusations (which personally, I don't believe.)), he was one hell of a musician.
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Old 26-06-2009, 18:53   #17
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Old 26-06-2009, 20:26   #18
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Just because people have selective memories, Michael was acquitted in all Child Molestation accusations brought against him in US court... Say what you want about the Legislature and the Executive, but our Judicial system is pretty decent everywhere except Texas. I do not believe that Michael Jackson was capable of being a pedophile, he was a 10 year old trapped in a 50 year old's body... I think he was just very naive and gold digging parents exploited his innocence for monetary gain. His compassion in other areas of his life and career just do not support that type of behavior. He does not fit the profile of child molesters.

What everyone seems to forget is all the charities he has started/supported over his life... More than any other celebrity in history... Certainly more than Bill Gates, who has a few billion dollars more than MJ. He has always showed inhuman compassion toward his fellow man despite the awful things people and the press have always said about him behind his back.

Maybe it's just me, but I get a sour taste in my mouth whenever people soil the memory of a person that just died (rather unexpectedly and tragically I might add)... Death affects everyone different, it's not nice to ridicule people who are genuinely grieving... You don't need to know someone personally to feel that they had a lasting, great impact on your life and to feel a sense of loss when they pass away.

My sincerest condolences go out to his family and especially his children.
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Old 26-06-2009, 20:43   #19
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Old 26-06-2009, 21:13   #20
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... it's not nice to ridicule people who are genuinely grieving... You don't need to know someone personally to feel that they had a lasting, great impact on your life and to feel a sense of loss when they pass away.
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I'm officially sad, not because I'm a big fan. Just because he was one of those artists who gave the people far more than he ever received. The music scene has lost one of it's nowadays very few great figures. His music, his charisma and his generosity will remain in the minds of people far beyond the echoes of the scandalmongers' despite.
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