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Old 28-03-2009, 04:08   #21
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I hope she does something out of the ordinary (for her). I don't think I can stand a whole album of ballads with her voice the same throughout each song with no experimenting whatsoever... e.g. for the Chto Ne Hvataet demo, I think she made it interesting because in some places there was more power to her voice or whatever (I really am useless when it comes to proper musical terms).

She's always been sort of in the background, I don't know if that's her actual personality or if it's because everyone seems quiet next to Yulia, but Lena can be awesome if you give her a chance, so I hope she will be able to prove herself more, she deserves success.
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Old 28-03-2009, 06:15   #22
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^ I agree! I would like some Tatu-ballad style songs, but a mixture of other styles would really make it more special. Any album to me with all songs the same style are boring to me.

She does have a pretty interesting voice. It's naturally kind of babyish and nasally but she can make it sound more mature when singing and even add some power to it. I personally just think she doesn't choose to sing in different techniques very often, and likes to stay soft. But I think she has potential. She sings falsetto a lot, so she's very quiet compared to Yulia who naturally has an energetic chest voice.

I think her voice makes an interesting effect when she uses more energy. Obezyanka Nol demo, for example. I didn't even know it was her at first. I've actually grown to love her yells. There's a Y&I remix which has her yells, and I thought they should have kept them in the original song. Her voice is more varied than people usually think, in my opinion. Including her vocal range... If I've estimated correctly, throughout her Tatu career, she's sung from an E3 to a G5.
Her low notes aren't sung too often but she has reached them very well.
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Old 28-03-2009, 10:52   #23
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Lena's voice is exceptional. I loved the t.A.T.u. demos where she sings alone in particular I Know, Obezyanka Nol and the fantastic Kosmos demo. Like Endri said, she has a solid foundation; a starting point which Yulia has lost by going to the States. Yulia is being naive if she thinks that she can just waltz over to the States and be signed right away just because she was in t.A.T.u. The problem for Yulia is that if she doesn't make sound decisions her album will put together in a shoddy way, will sound rushed and maybe even flop big style.
As for Lena regarding what sound she should do, i've said before dark-electro. I also think she would suit doing trip-hop with a t.A.T.u. sounding twist. Songs like I Know and You are close to the trip-hop mark and she suits that style. I really hope she brings on the Rock. The only thing both girls need to consider and especially Yulia if she's going to make it in the States, is their dancing just in case they decide to do something dancey as they will be ripped apart by the US press.
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Old 28-03-2009, 10:52   #24
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...cause f*ck up 2 projects in less that 4 years would be totally L.A.M.E
How did you find out the name of Lena's solo project "Lena And The Mindless Easterbunnies" aka Lena And the Masked Extraterrestrials (that's what is written under the picture)? It took me days and I had to hack more than a dozen of Renskij's computers!
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Old 28-03-2009, 14:41   #25
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i totally agree with this. it's about time Miss Katina got some recognition for being a good wee songstress
And I also agree. I am sooo looking forward to Lenochka's solo project!
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Old 29-03-2009, 03:28   #26
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Lena will work with t.A.T.u. management
Are you listen yourself? .
Where are those things?
1.- An international album
2.- A HQ 220's video
3.- A White Robe's video
4.- A movie and more

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She has something concretewhere to start and she has t.A.T.u. band to confirm that her music won't be only slow balads.
I'm not sure about it

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While Yulia is in the middle of nothing,
I don't think so, We have something concrete, She left creative management


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but Yulia is so influenced by the temptation of success, and the maximum we can expect is a floppy album. However, who knows?!
Maybe she will work with with professional people, and So least we'd get an album of one of girls. You're blind by Your emotions.. If you're still waiting for an album from management, Good Luck. It would take ages

Lena is good singer but her management is really bad to release an album.

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right now she says that she hopes her plans come true, and then she`ll talk about it she said this with other words, but I see her way more difficult than lena
Ohhhh Sorry I forget you FiorE, I can adore it from her, least She wants to sure herself to say us her plans , About Lena, I just can see promises Like 2007 And t.A.T.u.'s magament
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Old 29-03-2009, 03:40   #27
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Are you listen yourself? .
Where are those things?
1.- An international album
2.- A HQ 220's video
3.- A White Robe's video
4.- A movie and more
I was referring to the project they are working on and not to t.A.T.u.
They said that the management will work with t.A.T.u. and with Lena, too. We don't know yet what is going to happen, whether Lena is going to start a solo career or will start a new band. What we know is that she's working with the same team that gave us really good music.
You can blame the management, but t.A.T.u. were dead despite their management. They got popularity based on a fake image, on fake musical capacities. That is the real cause of the break.


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If you're still waiting for an album from management, Good Luck. It would take ages
We don't know if the problem was the management, Yulia, or the whole project was destined to stop. We'll see.

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Old 29-03-2009, 03:57   #28
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You can blame the management, but t.A.T.u. were dead despite their management. They got popularity based on a fake image, on fake musical capacities. That is the real cause of the break
Nobody is telling you that they didn't give us good music But did they give you good music when you wanted it?

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I was referring to the project they are working on and not to t.A.T.u.
They said that the management will work with t.A.T.u. and with Lena, too.
And I just wanted you to remember how to be our creative management

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We don't know if the problem was the management, Yulia, or the whole project was destined to stop.
I don't need Yulia to realease an video was recored already . Come on, Endri just accept it, They're not professional people when We're not talking about music....... A very important thing, They didn't get a label for t.A.T.u. or Yulia must get a label for t.A.T.u.?
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Old 29-03-2009, 14:17   #29
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How did you find out the name of Lena's solo project "Lena And The Mindless Easterbunnies" aka Lena And the Masked Extraterrestrials (that's what is written under the picture)? It took me days and I had to hack more than a dozen of Renskij's computers!
Give them a chance! looks like they want to do things right this time, and they all have a goal, there is not more disputes with yulia to stop working or to postpone things.


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Ohhhh Sorry I forget you FiorE, I can adore it from her, least She wants to sure herself to say us her plans , About Lena, I just can see promises Like 2007 And t.A.T.u.'s magament
the same with yulia, remeber how many things she have said before and never did.
I´m still waiting this things from her
1.-her song , she said back in late 2006 that she would write a song
2.-the movie script that she said she wanted to write as well
3.- the fashion line or some designs that she said she wanted to do.

now she said she will release an album but she hasnt have the people to work yet,which I doubt she must have someone already at least some contact, she´s in the middle of nothing, she has not such a good voice anymore, no record label, as lena, but lena has a team, yulia has parviz!

I dont know if with lena the team will want to sign to a label or do it independent Again Resnky must find something for lena and the band, or he has so much money to produce an entire album again just to see it flop? Argos is he much more millionare than parviz? or is he at the same level of donald trump, or the hilton family??
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Old 29-03-2009, 16:53   #30
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she has not such a good voice anymore,
Yulia’s voice is unique and magnificent. Lena’s voice is nice and it will probably sound less fake if she can perfect her American accent, but it will never be anything more than nice.
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Old 29-03-2009, 17:11   #31
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Lena's voice is stronger than Yulia's live though... Yulia's vocals on certain tracks make me cringe so much.
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Old 29-03-2009, 18:18   #32
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... she´s in the middle of nothing, she has not such a good voice anymore...
a.) If she really moves to LA then she isn't in the middle of nowhere, but guess where Moscow lies when it comes to pop market?
b.) I'm always intrigued why people bring the singing argument into a discussion about pop music. It wasn't necessary in the old times (playback), and it's not necessary today (autotune & co.). What counts in pop business is that you can sell dreams (think about old tatu and you immediately smell it)
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...but lena has a team, yulia has parviz!
A team? Don't see one! Seems that I have to buy new glasses!

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I dont know if with lena the team will want to sign to a label or do it independent Again Resnky must find something for lena and the band, or he has so much money to produce an entire album again just to see it flop?
A label? For Lena? Why? There are dozens of young girls in Russia who can sing better than her, move better than her, look better than her and are ready to do e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g for their careers, and nobody cares. Internationally the situation is even worse. You need something really special to attract somebody from ouitside Russia.
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... is he much more millionare than parviz? or is he at the same level of donald trump, or the hilton family??
I seriously doubt that Parviz can even sponsor more than half a million dollars. Rensky should have enough money from his R&K holding, which was one of the leading Russian IT companies a few years ago (obviously almost ruined by his son ) and he made several Mio. $ with tatu. He should be able to spend enough.
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now she said she will release an album but she hasnt have the people to work yet, ,which I doubt she must have someone already at least some contact,
How do you know it? Or This is other of your dreams about lena and band?

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she´s in the middle of nothing,
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she has not such a good voice anymore, no record label, as lena, but lena has a team, yulia has parviz!
Hahahhahaha Oh sorry I can't remember all people talk about Lena's voice on Not gonna get us ,

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I dont know if with lena the team will want to sign to a label or do it independent Again Resnky must find something for lena and the band,
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Old 29-03-2009, 19:12   #34
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b.) I'm always intrigued why people bring the singing argument into a discussion about pop music. It wasn't necessary in the old times (playback), and it's not necessary today (autotune & co.).
What Yulia has cannot be found in a box of tricks.

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A label? For Lena? Why? There are dozens of young girls in Russia who can sing better than her,
What does anyone’s ability to sing have to do with the pop market, Argos? Have you not read what you already told us? Read your post again and learn as we all have.
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Yeah, we know Argos.. for you Lena is shit
Quote me! Where did I say that?

Not even the best young talents get a chance in Russia, everything is contolled by a mafia, which lets nobody come close to the old stars. From all the young singers only MakSim and Dima Bilan play in the upper league, and they aren't even especially talented as singers. Once again - there is almost no chance there, Yulya already told about the situation. If you want to move forward you have to leave the country. Add a management that failed even with relatively easy tasks and the lack of good pop composers and musicians inside the team, add the complete cluelessness how to present a pop project to the public and you'll see that in Russia Lena's career is over before it has even begun. And an international career needs working in one of the big music countries (USA, UK, Germany). No label will sign an act which isn't even popular in Russia. You have to go and work where the big bosses live to convince them. End of story.
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Have you not read what you already told us?
No, I didn't! Thanks for reminding me!
Completely without talent, of course, nobody can make a career. There are many more talented people out there and they don't have a chance either. So why exactly Lena?

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If you want to move forward you have to leave the country.
But why...WHY didn't t.A.T.u. do that? I don't understand. They knew they were failing in Russia. EVERYONE knew. I wanted them so badly to just try pushing SOMETHING outside of Russia, but they didn't. They could have released White Robe in the UK or the US and then see how it went from there, right? But they didn't do anything...and then they scrapped the project without telling us for two months while all of us thought they were making plans to get the HELL out of Russia. If Lena's new solo project tries to bring success in Russia, they might as well give up now. I think Yulia is smart leaving Russia. I hope Lena does the same. I can't bear to see them fail again. I don't want to lose all my respect for them.
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A team? Don't see one! Seems that I have to buy new glasses!
I guess you have! cause I only see people who are trying to move on, even on a shitty music business it´s contrilled by a mafia as you claim.


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A label? For Lena? Why? There are dozens of young girls in Russia who can sing better than her, move better than her, look better than her and are ready to do e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g for their careers, and nobody cares. Internationally the situation is even worse. You need something really special to attract somebody from ouitside Russia.
yeh for LENA, but the difference to the other girls is that at least lena tasted the success with tAtu already, and gain some "fame" even a tiny little hope to get sign is what yulia and lena have I know that out there a much better girls that need a chance, the same with yulia, I dont expect a super huge success on any of them that´d be exagerated.



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How do you know it? Or This is other of your dreams about lena and band?
yulia told that to the russian fans, I guess you were the one sleepwalking to havent noticed it, she said she needed a manager and people to work with, but she will produce herself.




[quote=Edgar;382388]Hahahhahaha Oh sorry I can't remember all people talk about Lena's voice on Not gonna get us ,
yeh too bad that it was only one song of the more than 12 songs and 3 albums tAtu did whatever, I´m not into the conversation of who can or cant sing. change subject.

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yulia told that to the russian fans, I guess you were the one sleepwalking to havent noticed it, she said she needed a manager and people to work with, but she will produce herself.
Right now You don't know if She already has people work for her . ohhhh I'm so sorry I've forgot that You know all about Yulia, You're even watching what She's doing right now on your dreams, Aren't you?

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yeh too bad that it was only one song of the more than 12 songs and 3 albums tAtu did whatever, I´m not into the conversation of who can or cant sing. change subject.
Thank to Not gonna get us and All the things she said, t.A.T.u. has been here for you and me since 10 years ago

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I'm not saying that Lena will have a label by t.A.T.u. if You know that management didn't get a label for t.A.T.u., Why do You think that They will get it for Lena? ...... So they're dreams what you have, not mine
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i bet lena was sick of not being able to work insead of going to parties and being yulias pet i bet since yulia left the managment lena and t.a. music can be busy working on the new project! anyone agrees with me?
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