The big "P" Thread

[spyretto]

hey, guys are we discussing porn now?
Porn is disgusting, I mean look at all those porn stars, they're weirdos.
Why would you wanna watch this shit when you can be in, hmm, more "genuine" material?

[dradeel]

Originally Posted by marina

For example : some horny girl prefers to read or even listen on the phone how some sleezy guy telling her * what I gonna do to you babe ...and blah blah blah ...in all graphic details about his big cock and everything

Could very well be that a bigger percentage of women do find that more pleasurable, indeed. I'm a man, and aye, I don't think sex-phones are something I'd enjoy, for sure.

But still, you can't go around the fact that _some_ women like the "virtual sexual image" - like porno movies. The site that haku showed actually said that there were 3 times more men who watched porn (if I remember correctly. at least more men than women), so still, there are women who prefer it. I mean, women can enjoy it, aye?

[marina]

Originally Posted by dradeel

But still, you can't go around the fact that _some_ women like the "virtual sexual image" - like porno movies. The site that haku showed actually said that there were 3 times more men who watched porn (if I remember correctly. at least more men than women), so still, women there women who could prefer it. I mean, women can enjoy it, aye?

Yes , for sure !

[dradeel]

Originally Posted by marina

Yes , for sure !

Hehe, super. Then that's settled

[spyretto]

Hey, why do I think that women prefer fantasicing rather than visual stimuli? ( ie pornography )
That's better cause they can get it on anytime!

[haku]

Originally Posted by marina

Given the choice to watch :
1. straight couple porn
2 girls
3 boys
and NO choice to escape from it at all .....I would pick up boy's porn.

And I have no explanation for that

Thanks for the honest reply.

I remember that in the show 'Sex In The City', the women in there liked to watch gay porn, so it must not be that rare for staight women to enjoy seeing men having sex.

But yeah, you're absolutely right about most women enjoying reading more than watching for example, most erotic and porn books are bought by women, practically no men buys porn books, men will go for porn mags with photos.
And without going very far, several other Tatu forums have loads of fanfics where Yulia and Lena fuck each other's brains out, and 99% or the readers are females.

[spyretto]

Originally Posted by haku

Thanks for the honest reply.

And without going very far, several other Tatu forums have loads of fanfics where Yulia and Lena fuck each other's brains out, and 99% or the readers are females.

So that's what the fanfics are all about? Damn, I never managed to go more than a few paragraphs into them. And there was no phooking there, just some general descriptions of the surroundings .
without an inkling of advertising can you direct me to those joicy fanfics that still exist on those forums, haku?

[haku]

Originally Posted by spyretto

without an inkling of advertising can you direct me to those joicy fanfics that still exist on those forums, haku?

Sure.

Here - Scroll down to chapter 17.

Here - Scroll down to chapter 20 part 4.

Here and also here.

Those are only a few links, i'm sure there's many more porn chapters in all those fanfics over there, but like marina said, there's generally something like 20 chapters of 'she loves me, she loves me not' before getting to the action.

[dradeel]

Originally Posted by haku

I remember that in the show 'Sex In The City', the women in there liked to watch gay porn, so it must not be that rare for staight women to enjoy seeing men having sex.

Aye, I have several lady friends who have said that one of the sexiest thing they know is seeing men kiss. I guess it's same for men who think girls kissing are sexy. Men and women are less different than one might think

[nath]

Originally Posted by marina

And I have no explanation for that

Because you would feel more distant so may be less "guilty"...*1 cent /psychology sorry*...

We are desesparatly too romantic even in our sexuality Marina

[spyretto]

Originally Posted by haku

Sure.

Here - Scroll down to chapter 17.

Here - Scroll down to chapter 20 part 4.

Here and also here.

Those are only a few links, i'm sure there's many more porn chapters in all those fanfics over there, but like marina said, there's generally something like 20 chapters of 'she loves me, she loves me not' before getting to the action.

Those sex chapters almost put me to sleep! I had a difficult time reading through them, so booooring!
But yeah they're like erotic literature , the kind that women like to read. ( not porn, though ) They could have been written for a generic couple, not necessarilty for Y&L. I mean it was so cliche, duh! Some touching and rubbing, some fingering and that was it...very tamed.
Thanks

[Rachel]

I like those kinda chapters, a lot

[spyretto]

Originally Posted by Rachel

I like those kinda chapters, a lot

Are you insomniac by any chance?
I mean, hello, 13 chapters of how the weather was before getting to the nitty-gritty? and then the nitty-gritty not being nitty-gritty enough? Solly, methinks me pass.

[Rachel]

spy, I don't read the other chapters Only the juicy stuff

[spyretto]

Originally Posted by Rachel

spy, I don't read the other chapters Only the juicy stuff

hmm, ok then.
But thanks to haku for pointing them out, otherwise I wouldn't get into the errand of spotting them.
All we need now is some real hardcore stuff!

[freddie]

Women prefer hairy men? You learn new things every day.. *goes back to reading "Women - FAQ"*

In any case... I do agree that women dislike porn because of it's banality and degradation of everything turning into a close up of two genitals doing their evolutionary duties. Cause lets face it - on average porn is tailor-made for men. Which is a shame actually, cause there's so much potential there, but it's vastly unused. The way most porn stuff is directed it's like a drama movie only showing the protagonists bawling their eyes out when someone breaks their hearts. You get cheated out of that catharsis goodness, which is just as possible in a good porn movie as it is in Gone With The Wind or Last Tango in Paris... but don't get me wrong. Porn should still be aware of it's origin and purpose. I've watched a quasi arts porn movie once and all I don't want to watch one ever again. 'Nuff said.

In any case... yeah, the forgotten art cunnilingus is majorly discriminated against (except in lesbian porn, of course). It's the porn orphan! Mostly cause for an average avid porn watching male the whole act is like paying an entrance fee, rather than the purpose of it all. Which is also a shame.

Not that I ever DO watch porn though...

[Rachel]

Originally Posted by spyretto

All we need now is some real hardcore stuff!

What is your idea of hardcore? Straight porn?

[spyretto]

Porn can be very addictive...but naked people are more of a turn on...I think
quasi art porn movies? There are some really good ones: like the Greek "Hardcore"...or the Canadian "Sleep With Me"... they're not porn though.
Maybe you're referring to something like "Cafe Flesh"? or "The Story Of the Eye?"

What is your idea of hardcore? Straight porn?

not necessarily...something that can be a turn-on. Those stories weren't. They were banal.

[Rachel]

Originally Posted by spyretto

not necessarily...something that can be a turn-on. Those stories weren't. They were banal.

Because there are emotions mentioned? You see, not everyone gets turned on by the same thing Like what was mentioned before, female minds are very different.

[spyretto]

Originally Posted by Rachel

Because there are emotions mentioned? You see, not everyone gets turned on by the same thing Like what was mentioned before, female minds are very different.

On the contrary, there wasn't enough emotion that's why they're banal. Not anything involving two girls can be emotional.