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Totally agree with everything mulder said. Nothing to add.
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^ Me too.
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It's a pity, I really love most all your comments, Mulder
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About the tatu songs in her concerts: There is (in principle) nothing to say against Lena using them in her concert. The tricky point is the choice and the amount. She can use any of the third album, it's practically not released outside Russia and therefore can even be treated as if the songs were written for Lena. To some degree the same goes for the second album, if she leaves the hit song(s) alone. Hardly anybody outside the tatu community will recognize that it's not genuinely Katina. The songs of the first album ARE known and exactly that can cause trouble. The tatu songs she performs are all considerably "better" than her own new songs (you may of course see the quality of the new songs different, but that's my own impression, and not only mine), even the best ones simply can't compete, they go under. Professional people, who know the origin of the songs, will immediately recognize this and come to the conclusion that the entire project is based on tatu's creative work alone, and you won't get support from them, which is the last thing you want to achieve (seen from the viewpoint of an incompetent never will be band manager). Seeing that the gigs had much to do with tatu fan service, I would nevertheless choose less songs from the tatu past and at least partly avoid the top hits because of too much competition for my own new songs. I think somewhat smaller gigs or some covers of other artists' work are no bad alternatives. Quote:
With a foreign project, where the main figure doesn't live at the point, where they start and develop the business, it's different. The option of slowly developing the project is way too expensive and your time in the foreign country is limited. I see no other way than have the right package complete and launch with a good amount of noise. Veni - vidi - vici, if everything goes well. Not knowing the huge American scene I can't remember an artist working outside the USA, English being not his first language, and working slowly to the top or at least to some point of common recognition. I can't imagine this can ever work outside your home country. My biggest concern is the image. I will never understand why they dropped the idea from the beginning, this unusual style from the start of her own website, I guess everybody loved it. It's something different and it feeds your imagination. You can develop (almost) anything on top of that, you are not limited as it was with the tatu image. But we got Lena clothed as boring as possible, with blue gloves (oh my God, what a great idea - making strange hand moves with blue gloves - a genius who made this up!). Of course there are some acts who can live with the image of the girl next door, but unfortunately next door is more than 10.000 miles away, and therefore not a credible image. Add to this weak image and style a girl with anything but a firm voice, no self-assuredness nor individuality in appearance, no new song with hit potential, a sound which doesn't stand out (so that people immediately identify and see apart from other groups), no message (in songs, appearances, media releases, interviews etc...) whatsoever, the highlights being the oldest hits from the former group, nothing what defines a clear and assertive Lena Katina profile, which can be sold, and you are satisfied with the development over two years of working on the project? In my old-fashioned dilettante view of showbiz I don't see a pivot for an international career with prospect, not without considerable changes. I want to see a successful Lena Katina (at least to a reasonable degree) and not a project which stumbles from fiasco to fiasco, as the tatu project did since 2007. It's no fun to see a project you follow with interest and sympathy either be ignored or ridiculed everytime someone writes an article. |
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No, it is not. She has some of her own material yes. But it is only being recognized because she is flaunting herself as a former part of t.A.T.u. - You cannot work both ends of the street. You cannot establish your own sound while retaining your image as a former t.A.T.u. member. All The Things She Said - Released: August 18, 2002 Not Gonna Get Us - Released: May 5, 2003 Sounds like early 2000's pop music to me. The facts do not lie. Quote:
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Then don't spew your rubbish as anything other than rubbish. There is no reason this project should be operating the way it currently is. I think Lena should actually give herself a chance as Lena and not a former part of t.A.T.u. - maybe then people wouldn't condemn her as "useless". |
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Why? Many solo artist perform old band stuff later. Why Lena cant?
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Because. You're missing the entire point that Lena should be establishing herself as Lena Katina. Nobody is saying she should completely abandon all t.A.T.u. material. But eight songs of t.A.T.u. in her entire setlist? Seriously? No former band member does that injustice to their former band.
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That's not related to her live performances. Quote:
Arguments? You're both baised on opinions. Facts are different from guesses, you know that. Don't try to sell your takes on these girls lives as truth. Without being mean? Let's see... Quote:
It's all here. You're sarcastic towards the whole situation... Which can only be powered by your spite towards Katina. Quote:
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I think that We should put this on Lena Katina solo project's post Quote:
Offtop: Argument.- A set of statements in which one follows logically as a conclusion from the others. Argos doesn't need to have the truth about them to have a argument. He just needs to have a idea or thought and follows logically. I don't see spite on his post. I really don't want to make a opinion about post of somebody else. But I really didn't get what you really are saying here. |
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to keep few of us interested till that time |
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Agreed. she performs too many tatu songs. Yet that doesn't mean she don't have the right to perform them.
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Now I understand that, You prefer a project is lame and stupid with a great waste time. Through that They could wait to release things with time and then they could keep few of us interested till that time. Nice thought, thank you for your opinion |
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if there was no lame project i doubt you would still be here |
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Also, Lena may only have 6 songs because she said during the fan meeting that they might just release an EP first. So those 6 may be all we get for the debut.
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What do you mean?, Maybe you want to say that If this solo project was a lame project, You doubt I would still be here. Maybe You misunderstood me, I was talking about that They are making mistakes on their solo project. But I don't think that is lame at all, It will be lame if they still make the same mistakes before.
And It's too easy to say for me. *You must read the thread where you were writing was Yulia solo project and this site is for t.A.T.u., That's no exclusive for Lena, Is that? But I will be honest: This solo project still have some life even if they just can make mistakes. They would make a good song what I could love. But that song still isn't here. Atleast I didn't listen it in concerts. |
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Well, I don't know why you're causing such a stir. I mean, Annie Lennox performs Eurythmics songs on her performances. Beyonce performs Destiny's Child songs. Fergie performs Black Eyes Peas songs. It's pretty normal. It's what they do. |
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What I meant was if there was no lena katina project (well, no concerts till release etc) forum would be so dead. no news from yulia, tatu. Why bother checking it then
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