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I agree that selling one's body might be morally wrong to today's society, but morality itself borderlines on religion and religion has no place in business nor when determining what's right and wrong. I don't like anykind of moral smugness when it comes to subjects like this. Who are we to judge what people can do with their personal liberties? It has no infulece whatsoever on the greater public good or the decline of it... it's strickly a personal decision what someone might choose to do with their own bodies to make a living. What about professional athletes who dedicate their lives to the world of sports which also becomes their sole money making tool. Aren't they "selling their athletic bodies" to achieve their goals? The only difference in this case is the moral one, which as I stated has no value in question of personal liberties.
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so if we legalize prostitution, we should legalize for example that person can sell whatever organ he or she has, its his body! best would be to have auctions of kidneys so if u have a better one than the other poor ppl ull get more money. and why shouldn't we legalize slavery. if one willingly wants to sell his/her body for a longer period of time or lifetime, to get money to give it to his kids to have a better life. why not? its his free will. right. yeah. this kind of analogy is wonderful.
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Yes, today you can actually devote your life into what could almost be called slavery. Ever heard of being a butler? The market for organs aren't really that big, so people don't really go around buying and selling organs as they do with blood or sperm. There just isn't any way of producing new organs for selling without risking the life of someone. Breeding human beings for their organs just isn't very humane ... and surely noone would do that. But people have the ability to decide if they want an organ given away. You can register yourself as an organ-donor, and as soon as you die, you will be given away to the health-service so that the organs the needed will be used for transplantations (that's the correct word, aye? heh)... I firmly believe that every human being has the right to decide over themselves, 100%. I strongly believe in the right for everyone to breath and put into their bodies what they want, and to sell sex for money if they wish to do so. Not only will this relief the society for some huuuge criminal problems, take away unnessecary long queues at prisons, but also filter out the lethal drugs and narcotics produced by criminals ... and in that way you'd solve huuuge amounts of health problems. When talking about prostitution you'd give more rights to the individual prostitutes, cause the criminal connections with pimps and "protection" aren't needed. If one thought about the safety and rights for these individuals, you'd have sooo many problems that would actually go away ... instead we reject to do this, cause a few people spread false propaganda - mostly these are religious people and very conservative politicians. |
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I don't think slaves choose slavery...
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And like freddie said, sex is different than slavery or organ selling. Sex is a natural act, and people do it everyday. We're animals and sex is one of the most important things in our nature (sex and nutrition) - so I personally think that if people want to sell sex then that's fine. |
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Oh you mean like that, I get it now.
Sad thing is people mostly sell their children... I mean, the parents sell their daughters, or their sons, to work.. Then they are paid for their childrenand can continue supporting heir family. Really sad. I don't see how you would compare this to prostitution though. People who sell themselves for slavery gain nothing afterwards... and they themselves usually don't get any money (but their families) Quote:
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But yeah, I guess you would get something close to a pimp in a system I'd like to have - but it would be an employer, owning a business and having workers who give a service. The prostitutes sign work contracts and what-not all the contracts and deals are called in english between an employer and an employee. Like factory-workers have --- they didn't have any rights at the end of the 1800s, but they do now. Why can't prostitutes have the same? And with prostitues under controled enviorments, you could have a much bigger control of sexual transfered deseases, which would all in all be a very big plus imo. Both for "customers" and the prostitutes. Quote:
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Prostitution IS LEGAL!, the fact is that you can't do it wherever you want,,, that's the real problem.
When a prostitute "works" near a school or parks where children are playing,,, there's danger, people who pay for sex are not always the best people, they could hurt children then. And the control of traffic of persons would be even more difficult,,,,,,,,, EXAMPLE; in Galapagos, an Ecuadorian island, fishers were not allowed to fish sharks,,,,,now they're permitted to keep them ONLY if they accidentally catch them.....the problem is that ACCIDENTS have been more common since then........ When law is weak then something even worse might happen,. |
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In Norway it's illegal to be a pimp, and it's illegal for the prostitutes to gather in bordels. It's not illegal for the prostitutes to sell their services on the streets tho, but it's illegal for a person to buy their services ... I'm pretty sure that's how it is. Heh. And frankly, that pretty much means it's illegal all the way. But I don't want it to be illegal, and I want it to get off the streets, but not into criminally run bordels and stuff I'm thinking about the health and well being of the prostitutes, customers and releaving police for a lot of bull shit work. It's time they could've spent on more important cases that they simply haven't got the resources or the time to handle... Quote:
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Here it is illegal to buy sex. Legal to sell it - I'm guessing so that the girls won't get into trouble if they speak up about their pimps or something. It doesn't really matter if it's legal or not anyway, I was just wondering if you guys thought it should or shouldn't be. |
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And now, let me advice everyone to watch: Penn and Tellet: Bullshit, season 4, episode 2 - Prostitution.
Aaah, it's like it was served on a silver plate for this conversation Of course, the one I downloaded was bugged, so I was only able to watch 1 and a half minutes of it. *sigh*. Well, here we go again! hehehe |
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