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Old 09-04-2007, 19:02   #21
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Is it supposed to be "Ich Komme" or can it be "Ich komme"? I thought only nouns had capital letters in the beginning?
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Old 09-04-2007, 19:18   #22
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Old 09-04-2007, 19:23   #23
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Is it supposed to be "Ich Komme" or can it be "Ich komme"? I thought only nouns had capital letters in the beginning?
It's "Ich komme" - as Argos said.

And you're also correct - only nouns have capital letters -

Is anyone else ready to learn some sentences and how to format them?
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Old 09-04-2007, 20:49   #24
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First explain to me why a table is male. I never understood that. It's so clearly female when you look at it.
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Old 09-04-2007, 21:17   #25
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First explain to me why a table is male. I never understood that. It's so clearly female when you look at it
Spaaaaartan! you have a fetish with the "sex" of the words! seriously
that reminds me when you asked me about french words haha! you rock
I totally spoil this thread, sorry

so all that I can say, if I'm not wrong, is that the verb is always in second in a sentence (maybe there's exceptions, but I don't know them lol)
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Old 09-04-2007, 21:52   #26
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Haha mein Deutsch ist überslecht, aber ich habe es studiert for 5 Jahre. Mann. Aber es ist eine schöne Sprache.
Blegh I suck at German these days.. :roll: Think I'm gonna follow this thread, to get my German back on. And about the Spanish thread, Spanish rocks so please I really wanna improve my Spanish.
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Old 09-04-2007, 22:16   #27
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First explain to me why a table is male. I never understood that. It's so clearly female when you look at it.
Haha, I guess this would be a good time to introduce the articles of the German Language.

The word "The" in English can be translated to either "Der, Die or Das" in German.

There are more Der words than Die words, and more Die words than Das words - my meaning by "Der/Die/Das words is because - every object in German has a "The" before it. When referring to somthing in formal German you refer to it as "The ____"

Here is a chart to memorize the genders for each "The"

Der - (Male) The (Only use Den when you are not beginning a sentence, otherwise use "Der")
Die - (She or Plural) The
Das - (She) - The/That

In response to somthing being a "The", it also has to be an "it" So - here is the reason why a table is a HE!

The German word table (Tisch) uses the word "Der" or "Den" - which translates to the HE form of The.

The "it" form for any German word will be just like the chart on the last page "Er, Sie, or Es" - He/She/it.


Der - Er | The (Male) - He
Die - Sie | The (Female) - It
Das - Es | The (Neuter) - She

So if a table is a Der (Male) word - then the IT form if it would be "er" since that is also the male form of He/she/it.


If you have questions from this point on - please re-read this or ask me about it. This is crucial to understand


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Der Tisch ist alt, und sehr gross. - The table is old, and very big!

Das Madchen ist schon sechzehn, aber es nicht zu alt! - The girl is already 16, but she's not to old!

Die schule ist gross und sie ist neu! - The school is big and it is new!



So - have you grasped the concept of using the German "The" and the German "Its" together - if so, make up some sentences of your own in English - but replacing the words "It" and "The" with either Der/Die/Das and Er/Sie/Es

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Old 09-04-2007, 22:20   #28
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mein Deutsch ist überslecht, aber ich habe es studiert for 5 Jahre. Mann. Aber es ist eine schöne Sprache.
Blegh I suck at German these days.. :roll: Think I'm gonna follow this thread, to get my German back on. And about the Spanish thread, Spanish rocks so please I really wanna improve my Spanish.
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Old 09-04-2007, 22:36   #29
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Haha, I guess this would be a good time to introduce the articles of the German Language.

The word "The" in English can be translated to either "Der, Die or Das" in German.

There are more Der words than Die words, and more Die words than Das words - my meaning by "Der/Die/Das words is because - every object in German has a "The" before it. When referring to somthing in formal German you refer to it as "The ____"

Here is a chart to memorize the genders for each "The"

Der - (Male) The (Only use Der when you are not beginning a sentence, otherwise use "Den")
Die - (She or Plural) The
Das - (She) - The/That

In response to somthing being a "The", it also has to be an "it" So - here is the reason why a table is a HE!

The German word table (Tisch) uses the word "Der" or "Den" - which translates to the HE form of The.

The "it" form for any German word will be just like the chart on the last page "Er, Sie, or Es" - He/She/it.


Der - Er | The (Male) - He
Die - Es | The (Female) - It
Das - Sie | The (Neuter) - She

So if a table is a Der (Male) word - then the IT form if it would be "er" since that is also the male form of He/she/it.


If you have questions from this point on - please re-read this or ask me about it. This is crucial to understand


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Den Tisch ist alt, und sehr gross. - The table is old, and very big!

Das Madchen ist schon sechzehn, aber sie nicht zu alt! - The girl is already 16, but she's not to old!

Die schule ist gross und es ist neu! - The school is big and it is new!



So - have you grasped the concept of using the German "The" and the German "Its" together - if so, make up some sentences of your own in English - but replacing the words "It" and "The" with either Der/Die/Das and Er/Sie/Es
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Old 09-04-2007, 22:48   #30
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lmao @ Queenie come on girl!

Talyubittu, are you fluent in german?
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Old 09-04-2007, 22:53   #31
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I wrote it down, but... dude.
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Old 09-04-2007, 23:46   #32
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lmao @ Queenie come on girl!

Talyubittu, are you fluent in german?
No, I haven't even had a year of it yet. I'm just finishing my first year of German now

Queenie - I'll explain more to help you through it ok. I typed that in a very unorganized fashion.
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Old 09-04-2007, 23:47   #33
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Talyubittu, that's okay, I think I got it!
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Old 10-04-2007, 00:02   #34
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No, I haven't even had a year of it yet. I'm just finishing my first year of German now
I think we're gonna have some fun in this thread! hehe
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Old 10-04-2007, 00:22   #35
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Ok, since a few of you are having trouble with the chart above, I'm going to make a new one for you guys, and explain it in a bit more simple fashion.

All nouns in German have a "The" in front of them. Where English only has one word for "The", Germans have three. Each one of these three indicates a different gender. The German words for "The" are listed below.



Der - Male
Die - Female - Plural
Das - It


The word "Der" - indicates that whatever object you are talking about, is Male. It can be a person, a table or a book or anything else under the sun. But remember - anytime you are using Der - your word will be male. The word "Der" can also be used as "Den". The only time you will replace the word "Der" with "Den" is when you are beginning a sentence with the word "The".

For Example:

Der Tisch ist alt! - The table is old.

Alt, ist der Tisch! - Old, is the table.


Both of these examples above are ways to use "The" - notice when the word "The" is beginning the sentence it is "Den". The 2nd sentence, uses "Der" because it's not starting the sentence.


Now - the thing is - you can't just randomly add Der, Die or Das to any word you want. Every noun in German is either Der, Die or Das - millions of words with either Der, Die or Das, but don't worry, you don't have to memorize them. You just need to remember what I'm saying now, and familiarize yourself with these articles.

The same rules as above apply to ANY German noun, you just have to know whether it's a Der, Die, or Das word

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Remember from yesterday, learning the Er/Sie/Es (He/She/It)?

Well if you've memorized that, you're on your way to learning German! This is probably the most complicated thing in German, but it's actually very easy!

If Der, Die and Das are used as "The", and either one of them means He, She or It, all you have to know to finnish a sentence using them is Er, Sie and Es!

Because German uses either He, She or It, for "The", wouldn't it make sense for them also to use He, She and It for the word "it"? Because they do! There are three ways to say It essentially in German, just like The! - See thats not that hard of a concept to grasp!

For Example

Der Tisch ist alt, aber er ist gross! - The table is old, but it is big!

See how Den/Der is the male word for The? - When referring to the table as "It" later in the sentence you will use the male word for it, which is "Er" or "He"



For Der - You will use ER - Because they are both male.
For Die - You will use SIE - Because they are bot Female
For Das - You will use ES - Because they are both Neutral


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Hopefully this makes it a little more clear! Just let me know if you have any questions after this .

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I think we're gonna have some fun in this thread! hehe
Haha - why is that



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Old 10-04-2007, 10:23   #37
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Haha - why is that
because german is not easy to learn and I guess if you just learn it for one year, after the basics we will encounter some problems lol and it's gonna be fun
see my point?
and no offence, I really think it's gonna be fun to try to fing solutions to our problems haha!

btw, I just realise that I don't have any ß on my keyboard hehe! my bad
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Ach !
Wunderbar !

Ein deutsches topic um diese tolle fremdsprache zu lernen !

Dar interessiert mich sehr !

Dankesch?n Talyubittu !

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Das ich so traurig bin..."

Kennen sie ?

Das war ein bischen schwer zu lernen aber das war ein Erfolg ^^


Talyubittu, it's "der Tisch", because it's nominative, not accusative

And
Der is for Male
Die is for Female
Das is for a thing.

After it will depends on the grammar, on the gender, on the number etc...

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Haha mein Deutsch ist überslecht, aber ich habe es studiert for 5 Jahre. Mann. Aber es ist eine schöne Sprache.

So schlecht ist es gar nicht.
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Der - (Male) The (Only use Der when you are not beginning a sentence, otherwise use "Den")
Die - (She or Plural) The
Das - (She) - The/That
Sorry for correction, but ...
der - er - male - (the - he)
die - sie - female (the - she)
das - es - neutre (the - it)
die (plural, all genders) - sie (the - they)
REM: den is the Accusative form of der, the text in brackets above is incorrect.


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Den Tisch ist alt, und sehr gross. - The table is old, and very big!

Das Madchen ist schon sechzehn, aber sie nicht zu alt! - The girl is already 16, but she's not to old!

Die schule ist gross und es ist neu! - The school is big and it is new!
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Der Tisch ist alt und sehr gross.
Das Maedchen(*) ist schon sechzehn, aber es ist nicht zu alt. //(*)if you can read german umlaut correct in your browser, then: Mädchen
Die Schule ist gross und sie ist neu.
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