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Old 26-09-2006, 04:34   #41
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nishershevone :
I said in sarcastic form in that the people just understand the war when they watch a movie, some people.

Many persons are rich by the movies that they was doing, but the truth is not in the TV..

Some people have the need to understand the truth. not just crying when they are watching a movie. it is false, we need do something. not speaking about it.

the words are just words.. not more..

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Old 26-09-2006, 04:56   #42
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but the truth is not in the TV..
yeah...and i really laugh at the saying "the answers to all life's questions can only be found in movies"...it's really for movie lovers...

...but enemy at the gates is so real...
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Old 26-09-2006, 05:11   #43
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...but enemy at the gates is so real...
Exactly! so real..

but, what do you think about the religion?
For me God exist but i don´t believe in any religion, . ....
i can´t believe in the monkey theory.. that a shit.. something more powerful than us is here...i know.
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Old 26-09-2006, 05:18   #44
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i can´t believe in the monkey theory.. that a shit..
that's really a shit!.. F**k! Can anyone admit he/she came from a monkey/ape? If humans are the evolution of monkeys/apes, there should be no more monkeys/apes right now!

I don't care if God exists or not...i think you can call me an agnostic...for me, all what's important in this life is live it good...respect living things..not to recycle humans...love everybody..try not to have an enemy...don't be a weakling...i'm not really thinking that i have this (God) who created me...i'm not making sin not because God told us not to make sin but because i have this conscience that makes me feel so uncomfortable when i had done something bad...
But really, I don't care about the existence of Ultimate Reality...i live my life without thinking that He guides me or He's here with me...If I think there's God, maybe he'd gone off somewhere else...
About religion, i don't know. Do they have different Gods? If so, then one or two or more of them maybe wrong (coz i believe there's only one God)..but if all those religion believe to only one God, then they are all right...I kind of agree to the Indian religion, Bahaism...i like that religion, no sacraments or any other religious activities. Their belief is that, all religions are all equal, all accepted by God (i've said this before)...religion is really for helpless and lazy/slot people...

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See, i'm confusing..that's because i don't really care about God...

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Old 26-09-2006, 15:04   #45
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i can't believe in the monkey theory.
Evolution is a fact, not a theory. Of course we are primates, we share the same genes.

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Can anyone admit he/she came from a monkey/ape?
How can anyone not admit it? We are apes, it's basic science. It's obvious that all modern apes evolved from a common ancestor, and ultimately from the same unicellular organisms as everything else on the planet.

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If humans are the evolution of monkeys/apes, there should be no more monkeys/apes right now!
That's probably one of the most stupid things i've ever read, please check some science books before writing such nonsense.
First of all, we did not evolve from *modern* apes, but all modern apes evolved from a common primitive ape. Second, that common ancestor is indeed extinct. Third, the emergence of a new species doesn't necessarily mean the extinction of the older one from which it evolved, there are plenty of archaic species on the planet which have thrived despite the appearance of much modern species, even among humans, several humanoid species have coexisted on the planet for millions of years, in Europe for example, Homo Neanderthals have lived alongside Homo Sapiens for thousands of years and the extinction of Neanderthals is very recent.
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Old 26-09-2006, 15:29   #46
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Old 27-09-2006, 04:56   #47
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haku: I was talking as a creationist...

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(but I don't care about God)


I believe that someone created us...starting from Adam...
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Old 27-09-2006, 17:11   #48
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If humans are the evolution of monkeys/apes, there should be no more monkeys/apes right now!
It's not really correct to say we came from the monkeys. Humans and monkeys had the same ancestor...

I cannot understand how anyone today CANNOT believe in the Theory of Evolution. It simply fits too much to be wrong. It fits so much it's perfect! And I can't see why anyone would fight this scientific work. Why would ANYONE fight science? Nothing is better than increasing and expanding our understandment and technology!

And Evolution is actually something we have found out. It's called a Theory, and not a fact, because if new things come up they can change the theory ... but that doesn't make it any less of a fact, actually I'd say it's as much of a fact as you can get it; because we adapt science to what the nature shows us, not the other way around...

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haku: I was talking as a creationist...
Sooo; you ment it ironically? Well, I'm hoping you were at least. Hehehe.
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Old 27-09-2006, 18:45   #49
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I believe that someone created us...starting from Adam...
Adam is a mythological creature. Just like Zeus or the Dragons. I really think there are enough evidence for Evolution not to question it anymore. I mean sure you can argue that you can't prove it since no one witnessed it in person, but the evidence is so overwhelming that it's almost inconcievable for someone to doubt it. It's almost like seeing someone with a knife wound, lying on the floor and a person with a bloody knife kneeling besides them - and lets say for the sake of the argument this person is a professional hitman. Sure you can't undisputably prove the hitman kneeling besides the vicitim is infact the killer... but given all the overwhelming evidence.. can you seriously doubt it? It's the same case with evolution.


On a different note: another case of western society getting scared of Islamic uncompromising attitude: Berlin Opera cancelled a performance of a classic opera after it recieved death threats from Islamic extremists. Why? The opera features a side-character which is non other than Muhamed himself - the prophet which identity just can't be revealed in muslim religion because otherwise the world will crumble into pieces. I think they're starting to exploid this submissive behaviour the western world has shown them over the recent months. And where are the moderate muslims who should be yelling from the rooftops right about now that death threats aren't really a good way of going about things?!
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Old 28-09-2006, 19:02   #50
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On a different note: another case of western society getting scared of Islamic uncompromising attitude: Berlin Opera cancelled a performance of a classic opera after it recieved death threats from Islamic extremists. Why? The opera features a side-character which is non other than Muhamed himself - the prophet which identity just can't be revealed in muslim religion because otherwise the world will crumble into pieces. I think they're starting to exploid this submissive behaviour the western world has shown them over the recent months. And where are the moderate muslims who should be yelling from the rooftops right about now that death threats aren't really a good way of going about things?!
you know you wrote extremists!isnt it the way christian extremists going about things?is it just for us muslims?i just cant understand it.About the opera thing,i dont know what it takes if one side character is Hz.Muhamed(s.a.v.) in an opera.But for us it is not acceptable to picture or make a character of him.Thats why the cartoons got much reaction.

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I really think there are enough evidence for Evolution not to question it anymore.
As Lena says...Darwin is really not for me!
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