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Old 30-01-2004, 00:18   #1
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Post t.A.T.u. didn’t "get accustomed" in Podnebesnaya

The reality-show t.A.T.u. in Podnebesnaya started on the television channel STS on January, 17. The organizers of the show promised, that it won’t be boring: unrevealed details, distinguished guests, communication with the fans, the process of the material selection and the new album recording - all this was planned to happen in front of the TV - audience. Nevertheless, the t.A.T.u.-girls haven’t managed yet to start the recording of the disk, since there’s not enough material. As for meeting the celebrities, the girls are simply not enough organized. For example, when Joseph Kobzon was about to visit “the inhabitants” of Podnebesnaya, Yulia and Lena weren’t simply there. The idea to socialise with their producer Ivan Shapovalov instead didn’t appeal to him.

Recording of the album isn’t going that smoothly either: Yulia and Lena admitted that they are not ready to begin the recording yet. To rescue the situation, the girls had to record “Zashishatsya Ochkami” , which is the song of the singer of group 7B Ivan Demyan. “Everything that we have is very raw yet. To bring the material to the right condition, we need more time. It’s possible that even the airing time won’t be enough. We hoped to find talented poets and composers, that could make some money on their material but we could choose only a few suggestions out of a thousand. They weren’t super either. We’ll continue looking for”, said t.A.T.u.

“The leading of STS and Ivan Shapovalov failed to reach any consensus when it comes to the way the show should look like”, writes Tsvetnoy Televisor magazine. “No, they didn’t reach it at the end. Apparently, the concept of the project is an absence of the mutual opinion. Anyway, the TV-audience is still left a chance to follow all an attempt to record an album. That’s right, “an attemp”, because I’m not sure that the album will happen at the end. Shapovalov has announced that the album will be ready on March, 14. Thus, the group has 52 days to complete it. If there’s enough material, this period is enough, but only if it will be worked on every day”, told Vitaly Mansky, a documentary director, who has been working with t.A.T.u. for several years now.

Mansky also says that he’ll be participating in the show only if everything in it will be sincere: “When Shapovalov got this idea of the reality-show t.A.T.u. in Podnebesnaya, he didn’t seem to realise that it would be that hard. Nevertheless, he still assures that there won’t be any tricks made for the show, only the truth of the life. So we’ll see. Otherwise I’ll leave the project”.

Source: Dni.ru
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Old 30-01-2004, 00:27   #2
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Do they even realise how stupid that sounds? Maybe instead of causing boring "scandals" which we are all so used to by now, they could have started working on the album. They had plenty of time then... I am not impressed!

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Old 30-01-2004, 00:33   #3
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Thanks for the translation forre.

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The idea to socialise with their producer Ivan Shapovalov instead didn’t appeal to him.
LOL, no kidding...

Yeah, the show seems *so* disorganized, that's incredible. The pics we have of the "crew" tells volume about how things are handled behind the scene LOL. It all seems very amateurish. And Yulia and Lena are rarely there.
Hell, they don't even seem to have a proper heating system! People are always wearing jackets in there, and Yulia has to keep her fur coat *inside* LOL.
Those are not good conditions to work correctly.
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Old 30-01-2004, 00:47   #4
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the idea of the show is vague to begin with ... two girls recording their album but yet it's supposed to be "real" tv? what kind of drama did they have in mind
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Old 30-01-2004, 00:53   #5
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Nevertheless, the t.A.T.u.-girls haven’t managed yet to start the recording of the disk, since there’s not enough material.
Thank you very much forre for the translation!

I think it's really strange that it's said that they don't have enough material. There are PD (if we can count that), NVNB and Nichya to begin with. Mars Lasar said on his official web site that he's composed songs for Tatu's upcoming album. There's the new song from Ivan Demyan, and "Strange Dances", IMO a great song to make a cover of. There are also of course a lot of songs sent by people, at least 1-2 good ones should be possible to find (unless they plan to release two albums, but that sounds too optimistic). Estonian duo De Luxe seem to be handling a lot of the studio work, and there was talk about Tatu recording with musicians from I.F.K. (who also were musicians on Tatu's latest concerts).

In one of the latest Izvestia articles it was stated that Tatu recorded a song during the night; and on the newest pictures we can see screens showing Lena recording, and Ivan & Yulia watching her.

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Old 30-01-2004, 01:05   #6
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I think it's really strange that it's said that they don't have enough material.
Thanks, convol for making these great points! According to some sources they started recording in December, they even could be seen singing on TV already, and as you say there seems to be enough material (you forgot to mention "Poesiya" which may be included as well). I wonder if dni.ru talked to them themselves, or if it's just hearsay.

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In one of the latest Izvestia articles it was stated that Tatu recorded a song during the night; and on the newest pictures we can see screens showing Lena recording, and Ivan & Yulia watching her.
Actually I like those Izvestia articles, they seem to be quite reliable.

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Mansky also says that he’ll be participating in the show only if everything in it will be sincere: “[...] Nevertheless, he still assures that there won’t be any tricks made for the show, only the truth of the life. So we’ll see. Otherwise I’ll leave the project”.
That's a good one coming from the man who gave us "Anatomy".

Thanks for the translation, forre.

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I think it's really strange that it's said that they don't have enough material.
Well, maybe they *do* have material, but an album has to have a "theme" and a "sound", you can't just take a dozen songs, all from different writers and composers and make an album out of it. You have to reach a balance, some kind of harmony in the whole album. That may be their problem.

Also, i remember that Tatu said that the new album would be more "hardcore", more "rock", so even the songs we know like PD, Nichya, NVNB may have to be rearranged to fit in.

And last but not least, it's Tatu! They need some kind of "shocking" theme in the album, they can't just come back with a bunch of boring and noncontroversial songs.
I'm not sure they have even decided *what* it is they are going to talk about in the next album.


Of course we have to keep in mind that this is a show. So Tatu's camp may be leaking negative informations to spice up Podnebesnaya. :P
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Well the songs I have heard so far aren't as great as I would expect a Tatu song to be.. (I mean the demos.. and why would they add Poesiya when Tatu are in it for 15 seconds? )
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Old 30-01-2004, 01:51   #9
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Well, I always thought that Tatu had no plan about that reality show, just the general idea. Then all the rest would miraculously come to them once the show was on

Are there no other talented musicians/producers in Russia to work with? Who's hired to be the producer of their album anyway? Shapovalov?

Finding songs from the fans sounds so dodgy
 
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thanks for the translation forre!

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I mean the demos.. and why would they add Poesiya when Tatu are in it for 15 seconds?
haha, exactly - it's not even their song they were 'guests' singing a verse for a TV show.

So, tatu have been saying they are 'working' on the album FOREVER ! they havebeen saying that some songs have already been recorded - they have been saying this months ago! C'mon...

and those songs you mention - PD, NVNP those are OLD 'hits' .. hits in quotes because... hey werent even hits exactly. PD was released in Bulgaria... ummm... I cant even remember anymore.... whenever it came out in Russia .. people listened to it a while, and not it is FORGOTTEN! why put it on a new alum?!?!

honestly.... umm....let me quote spy:
"wake me up when the new album is released' or something in those lines... *goes off sleeping, hoping it wont be eternal sleep* LoL
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I'll say something about Poesiya but please don't take it the hard way: I thought the original Poesiya ( without Tatu, I mean ) was better.

This is not the kind of song the girls should be singing. Trying to be tough doesn't do it for them...
 
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Old 30-01-2004, 03:09   #13
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quick question: was elena kiper a big part of Prostie Dvi. ?
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Old 30-01-2004, 03:29   #15
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Ivan has really great ideas. What he lacks is the person who can plan, organize and implement his ideas. It really isn't that hard to see. The idea of Podnebesnaya is really creative and has tremendous potential to put Tatu in a position of being a model for other reality shows. It is very original. I hope for his own sake that he can see the need to find someone with the ability to manage this phase of the project or else this whole thing will hurt Tatu and their image. He is sitting on a gold mine of opportunity. He just needs help.
 
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Yeah. *Calls mental institute*

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Haven't you been depressed by all the news yet? Everything's so negative. But I suppose if I looked at tatu.us forum everything would be still o-k.
 
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thanks for the news forre. do you know if they are goign to cancell the show or not? and has anyone been capping the show so far onlt one episode is up on the ftp's.
 
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Haven't you been depressed by all the news yet? Everything's so negative. But I suppose if I looked at tatu.us forum everything would be still o-k.
Yeah, I bet they're missing you already Spy.
 
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Well, maybe they *do* have material, but an album has to have a "theme" and a "sound", you can't just take a dozen songs, all from different writers and composers and make an album out of it. You have to reach a balance, some kind of harmony in the whole album. That may be their problem.



And last but not least, it's Tatu! They need some kind of "shocking" theme in the album, they can't just come back with a bunch of boring and noncontroversial songs.
I'm not sure they have even decided *what* it is they are going to talk about in the next album.


What Tatu need right now is a concept album. What they need is their very own Marshall Mathers LP. It needs to be brave and edgy and dark, and talk about their whole experience as a media sensation. They need to literally burn those school uniforms and reinvent themselves. I agree that they need an album with a unified vision not some makeshift hodgepodge. I think there has been a definite decline in the quality of Tatu's material since 200kmph. I still think PD is substandard (although the lyrics are good), Ne Ver is just a souped up reworking of PD - the lyrics are again good, the bassline's very nice, the breathy deeper vocals are great but the chorus is just not good enough and as for Nichya, well the sentiments are nice but it's too wishy-washy and the melody's just not strong enough - bland, basically. Sorry to be cutting, but it's only because I care.
 
 

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