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04-08-2006, 10:12 | #41 | |
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In a way I agree with almost all the comments.
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I think Koffi Annan was much more presumpteous and arrogant when he claimed that the strike on UN forces was intentional before any sort of investigation was conducted. I'm not pro-Israeli nor pro-Lebanese. I just think we have to look at all the variables before we completely lose every sense of perspective and start bashing the side we instictively label as "the aggressor". I maintain my stance that Israel's actions at this point aren't wise - not because they're not justfied, but rather because they'll strenghten the political might of extremist forces, yet I don't fool myself for a second that Israel wasn't provoked thorougly and systematically into this military enveavour. If anyone here is shameful and disgraceful it's the islamic militants who're using common civilians and infact an entire country to get their point across. Everybody seems to conveniently forget that there are two sides to this story. Everybody also forgets Israel did take steps to remedy the palestine question by pulling out of Gaza and they got bitch-slapped in return. And I'm sure they'd get bitchslapped again if they pulled out of Lebanon now - Hezbollah would interpret it as zionists finally giving up and they'd start attacking even MORE. Don't forget that their ultimate agenda is to drive jews out of middle east completely. Of course quite a few people on this board think that'd be the proper thing to do. Because many arguments seem to fal back on that "Israel should never exist" shtick. Now even if you disregard those points I made about European jews actually BUYING the land from Arabs and the fact they've been present in the region for more time than any other ethnic group... there's still a fact of today's political reality which is that Israel's borderes are THERE. Like it or not. Those are internationally recognized borders of a country that's a full time members of the United Nations. Every claim how Israel shouldn't exist in useless and obsolete when dealing with today's political reality. If we play that game, where does it all end?! Should the USA exist? Maybe her majesty should anex the region back to her territorial domain and pronounce it part of the commonwealth again. Should Spain exist given the fact it represents a whole plethora of different ethnic groups who're not always that keen on coexisting in the realms of a same country? See what I mean? That whole point about Israel's right to existance is moot and whoever discusses it again falls back on tabloid-like sensationalist level of Mahmud Ahmadinezhad. |
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04-08-2006, 14:40 | #43 |
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all these stuff cant explain nothing more than this pic,
or this pic.its war going on there,and its all against nature.i got nothing to say to those who think that the attack of Israel is based on reasonable actions,its just the thing Israel planned for years and this "kidnapping" is just an excuse as we,you,us all know. |
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04-08-2006, 14:46 | #44 |
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fanoff, You can find horrible pics in EACH camp...
But I agree with you that this "kidnapping is just an excuse and this invasion was planned for long time... Now , here, each camp has its own reasons and its own logic. |
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04-08-2006, 15:50 | #45 |
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fanoff, this is one of the very very few times when we agree over a political matter |
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04-08-2006, 16:36 | #46 | |
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04-08-2006, 17:06 | #47 | |
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There's been several things - EU, religion and those cartoons of Mohammad. But this I definately agree with you about |
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The fact that we were so stupid and sent our jews to Germany during WWII was much based on us being naive and afraid --- trying to avoid being targeted by the Germans. We should of course have done the same as our neighbours. Besides that I can't remember any incidents of "anti-semitism" in Norway... |
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And the fact that Norway still pays tributes to Israel is abit more complex than "sorry for exterminating your race", well, I hope... |
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12-08-2006, 13:51 | #54 |
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I applaud the UN on this draft resolution. It seems fair to me and it requires the lebanese government to step up to the plate and actually control its own territory instead of allowing terrorist groups like Hizbollah do it for them. However, I do not think this resolution will actually come to fruition unless Hizbollah holds up their end of the bargain by returning the captured Israeli soldiers immediately.
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While everyone's attention is on Lebanon, Israel has been quietly operating in the West Bank as well. Israel has never been happy with the results of the last elections in Palestinian territories, so Israel has simply decided to "arrest" the elected officials they don't like, how very convenient.
That kind of operations shows that the Palestinian territories have become nothing more than bantustans, territories granted with a fake automomy (the fact that Israel can kidnap and throw in jail *elected* officials with no charges and no trial for an indefinite period of time shows how inexistant that automomy is) which allows Israel to deprive their populations of full citizenship (and use them as a cheap workforce with no rights) while keeping effective control on those territories. Also, Israel has already violated the ceasefire in Lebanon, but of course the usual double standards apply, Israel can continue the attacks on Lebanon under the 'ceasefire' but Lebanon is not allowed to defend itself. |
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Palestine killed two Israeli soldiers and kidnapped another on June 25. Not to mention that ever since the Gaza pull-out Palestinian militants have actually increased their attacks on Israel.
And ever since the cease-fire Hezbollah has launched 250 Katyusha rockets into Israel. Double standards indeed, Israel should just chill. |
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Obviously you don't know about it, because when I said Israel I actually meant southern Lebanon and when I said it was 250 rockets, I actually meant 10. Get it right this time!
Article Considering that Israeli forces were leaving parts of Southern Lebanon for Lebanese and UN forces to look after, it kind of seemed like a cheap shot from the Hez'. Israel obviously wouldn't retaliate on that, especially when nobody was killed. |
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