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Old 31-12-2004, 01:01   #21
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Not to take attention away from the victims, but I just have to comment on the audacity of Bush. He has created his own coalition (which includes Japan, Australia, and I think India), separate from the UN to assist the nations that were hit.
The one time where nations can put aside differences and exude unprecedented levels of compassion and this chimp has to, just has to throw politics into the whole goddamn thing.
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Old 31-12-2004, 01:37   #22
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I'd also like to point out that the self-appointed leader of the international rescue coalition (George Bush, not Kofi Annan) originally offered to donate $15 million. By comparison, the British government originally offered £15 million (about $29 million). When it was pointed out that $15 million was less than half what he was planning to spend on his inauguration party, Bush increased it to $35 million. The British government increased its donation to £50 million ($96 million). So he offers a fraction of what Britain gives and he proclaims himself the leader? I believe the expression in Texas is 'all hat and no cattle'.

UPDATE: I discovered that the United States' extra $20 million isn't a gift - Bush is offering to lend it to the affected nations. As well as Britain, several other governments are each giving more the the US - Sweden ($75 million), France, Canada, Australia, Japan, Germany, Switzerland and Norway. How come the four biggest donors aren't even in Bush's 'leading' coalition?

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Old 31-12-2004, 02:53   #23
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Honestly I think that all those talks in millions are far from enough. Large developed nations should be offering anything from half a billion to a billion dollars. Somehow I belive international humanitarian aid agencies such as UNICEF and Red Cross will bring in much more cash then all the contibuting nations put together.
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Old 31-12-2004, 04:44   #24
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The one time where nations can put aside differences and exude unprecedented levels of compassion and this chimp has to, just has to throw politics into the whole goddamn thing.
lol i love that sentence


a similar but lesser know chimp, my boss, made this statement earlier today "well if it's any consolation, they didnt have much anything"
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Old 31-12-2004, 11:29   #25
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my country was effected too.
almost 70,000 ppl died
its a very bad thing that happened.
i cant belive my eyes.
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Old 31-12-2004, 12:20   #26
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Make a donation fokls. Every little bit helps. People are starving NOW. Diseases are spreading NOW. Donate NOW!!!
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Old 31-12-2004, 12:46   #27
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ok, thanks for the info freddie. I hope the money are put to good use - and not to useless aid.

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Old 31-12-2004, 21:46   #28
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For those in Britain who wish to donate, go to www.dec.org.uk which is co-ordinating the collection of money for several organisations including Oxfam and the British Red Cross.

If you are reading this and you can donate anything, no matter how much, please give to whichever organisation you wish in your Country. Whatever you give will help people who have literally nothing.

And please watch out for the usual scum who try to profit from these disasters - never reply to an e-mail asking for money. Go to the official websites directly by typing the address in your browser.
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Old 01-01-2005, 04:54   #29
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Esimated figures in Indonesia seem to be suggesting 400.000+ casualties. Insane.
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Old 01-01-2005, 05:06   #30
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Jeez. How awful... god bless them...
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Old 04-01-2005, 02:04   #31
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Dude this is so insane... That's it, I'm moving to the moon where there's no geologic activity what so ever... Or better yet, Mars, so there's a little bit of atmoshpere to protect me from meters.

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Old 04-01-2005, 02:21   #32
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Old 04-01-2005, 15:51   #33
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Old 07-01-2005, 01:32   #34
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Tsunami satellite picture: http://www.davesdaily.com/pictures/2...-satellite.jpg (copy + paste)
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Old 08-01-2005, 06:30   #35
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received this by email ..

http://www.nichya.net/fh/asian_tsunami_satelite.jpg
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Old 08-01-2005, 11:07   #36
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This is a picture of a cyclone in the Atlantic ocean heading for Florida, USA. Nothing to do with the tsunami.
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Old 08-01-2005, 11:18   #37
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I was just going to ask if this was a real picture, as it looks fake for water, so thanks for clearing that up Haku.
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Old 09-01-2005, 00:51   #38
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I know conspiracy theories are thriving but here's the deal:

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from "Earthquakes, Tsunamis and Nuclear Testing" by LILA RAJIVA

In the aftermath of a cataclysm like the Asian tsunami, speculation can run wild. Reserving judgment until we really know what happened, here is a list of salient questions and answers that I,ve compiled from news reports, government and other reliable sources.

Q: Is underwater nuclear testing common?

A: Yes, The United States has conducted 1,054 tests of nuclear devices between July 16, 1945 and September 23, 1992. Before 1962, all the tests were atmospheric (on land or in the Pacific or Atlantic oceans) but overall the majority - 839 - were underground tests. From 1966 to 1990, 167 French nuclear test explosions have been performed on two atolls in French Polynesia, Morurua and Fangataua. Of the 167 tests, 44 were atmospheric. Atmospheric explosions were carried out until 1974, but only underground tests after that. The underground tests have been conducted at the bottom of shafts bored 500-1200 meters into the basalt core of the atoll. Initially these shafts were drilled in the outer rim of the atoll. In 1981, most likely due to the weakening of that rim, the tests with higher yields were shifted to shafts drilled under the lagoon itself.

Q: What are the effects of underwater nuclear testing?

A: To quote from a 1995 case brought against the French government, Case T-219/95 R, by Marie-Th&eacute;r&egrave;se Danielsson, Pierre Largenteau and Edwin Haoa, all residing in Tahiti, French Polynesia: "Short-term effects include geological damage and the venting of gaseous and volatile fission products into the biosphere. Nuclear tests, the applicants say, can cause landslides and did indeed cause a major underwater landslide at Mururoa in 1979, when a nuclear device was exploded after jamming half-way down its shaft. Since the geology of Mururoa is already unstable due to large-scale fracturing caused by previous tests, further major landslides are likely. Such landslides in the past have given rise to tsunamis causing coastal damage in areas as far away as Pitcairn and Tahiti and endangering residences such as that of Ms. Danielsson. They can also release radioactive material into the sea, with catastrophic effects on the food chain in an area such as French Polynesia where fish is an important part of the diet.

Q: What were the effects of the Murarao landslide?

A: It shifted at least one million cubic meters of coral and rock and created a cavity, probably 140 meters in diameter and produced a major tidal wave comparable to a tsunami, which spread through the Tuamotu Archipelago and injured people on the southern part of Moruroa Atoll. French authorities initially denied that any mishap had occurred and declared that the tidal wave was of natural origin, but in a publication in 1985 they did acknowledge "the accident of 25 July 1979".

Q: Can landslides create tsunamis?

A: Research on underwater landslides is new and it is only in recent years that the potentially catastrophic results of a landslide have become known. Dr Summerhayes, Director of the Institute of Oceanographic Sciences in the United Kingdom, is quoted in the Independent Newspaper on 9 September 1995 as saying that volcanic islands like Mururoa were:

"... inherently unstable and may fail given an appropriate trigger like an earthquake or a very large explosion. Failure is likely to cause a giant submarine landslide which may demolish parts of the island and could create a tidal wave that may itself damage coastal installations on other islands nearby."

Furthermore he stated that the creation of such a tidal wave was "a general threat to coasts as far away as New Zealand and Australia."

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Old 09-01-2005, 05:39   #39
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This is a picture of a cyclone in the Atlantic ocean heading for Florida, USA. Nothing to do with the tsunami.
Oh thank you very much Haku. I doubt it too.. *goes to lecture her gf* ...


And Spy... thanks for the ""Earthquakes, Tsunamis and Nuclear Testing" ...
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I just thought I'd show this for anyone who's interested
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