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Originally Posted by haku
Adults can do what they want to themselves, but children should be left untouched.
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Wise words, which I support to the bone. Penn and Teller: Bullshit! has a very good episode on circumcision (season 3, episode 1). There are both ups and downs with the foreskin. But waging the ups and downs should be done by adults that decide over their OWN BODY, not pushing their own sadistic opinions on other persons.
As for circumcision on children. When new born babies have their foreskin cut off, they rarely use any form of anesthetics. Why? "Because the baby is so small it can't really feel anything... and it won't remember the pain later in its life." - True that the baby might forget about it - just as you forget about the pain of breaking your leg when you went snowboarding 2-3 years ago... but a baby is actually over-sensitive to pain, and the foreskin is loaded with nerves. When babies are "quiet" and don't cry even if its cut off, it's not because they don't feel it, it's because they are paralyzed by the pain... It's fucking crazy that doctors can go to sleep at night without a huge amount of guilt hanging over them. It disgusts me...
As for adults cutting the skin off -- it's not anything more serious than body art, which I have nothing against. I'm even for plastic surgery. So yeah, that's just fair enough. You should have the right to do what you want with your own body without anyone telling you it's right or wrong
It's just wrong that babies that can't say yes or no have to go through because someone else thinks they shoud.
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Originally Posted by Talyubittu
If it helps prevent HIV then it's for the better, even if you don't support it.
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A condom does the trick. Point is that this could lead you to think that circumcision is a CHOICE for the condom. Well, if you want full protection, you need the condom. And if you have the condom, why would you have to get circumcized?
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Originally Posted by Talyubittu
It is safer and healthier to have a circumcision - some research says it dosen't matter, but at the same time. It's ONLY reserach. Not fact. Better to be safe than sorry.
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There are both ups and downs. There are some studies that show un-circumcized people have less chance of getting some kinda infection (it was actually mentioned one in specific) in the urin-channel because of the natural protection of the foreskin. (However, another study said something else about another infection. Hahaha.) The foreskin gives the surface of the penis more friction, which actually helps when stimulating your partner sexually. Also, uncircumcized guys have a more sensitive head. Now, some might say that this will make them cum faster, allthough the difference there isn't much for "trained guys". But guys with a more sensitive heads will be able to enjoy a better orgasm.
And then you have the downs; - that the sensitive skin is easier to get small wounds and stuff, where sexual transmitted diseases will get to the blood in an instant. And I guess other diseases follow as well. But you know, I can't say that worries me.
All in all, it doesn't matter what the ups and downs are, cause they wage up against eachother imo. And if you have a condom all the disease-stuff is pointless to be discussing, cause they're out of the whole debate.
So in my opinion better safe than sorry would be to leave the dick alone. Hehehe.