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To be able to know what is right and what is wrong you don't need a religion generally. I was speaking about disoveries as an example. We reached not very far and there's plenty of things to discover which will sooner or later give explanations to parapsychotic fenomenas and may answer the question what lies beyond the life. We'll see. Even if a few people witnessed the rise of Jesus, it doesn't mean that God exists. There's no proof of it whatsoever. We have the stories those were compiled into books like Bible and that's all.
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No, but morals are inherited from previous geneations. And they based them on religion.
Just because people aren't religious anymore doesn't mean they'll stop believing murder is wrong. And that murder is wrong is based on religion.
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On the fact that church plays a minor role in people's life. On the fact that church disgraced itself so many times.
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Once again, what do you base this on? Religion is on the rise in US, islamic world, Israel, Russia, China....
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There's no rise or islamic movements.
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No? Who brought 500.000 people to beirut to demonstrate for Syrian presence in Lebanon? Hezbollah, islamic movement. Who were biggest winners in Iraq? United Iraqi Alliance, shi'ia based group. And SCIRI. Supreme council for ISlamic revolution in Iraq. Who were biggest winners in saudia? Islamists.
Open your eyes. Anytime you have something aproaching fair elections in muslim world islamic parties win.
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There's an export of the religion as people move around the world but the number of believers isn't increasing. Russia and China face a different development as religions have been forbidden in those countries for many years. Not entirely forbidden but showing up in a church could damage your carreer.
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No? You have any data to back this up?
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Oh really? What about Jahad?
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Who?
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Too soon. The removal won't happen but instead the church will die out as a dino.
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How many times this was predicted. Didn't happen yet.
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It depends on what makes you happy. Do you need religion for that?
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Religion no. Morals yes. And morals are religion based.
