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Old 15-07-2006, 01:40   #9
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Originally Posted by haku
And that's something i've always disagreed with. Communism is a form of totalitarianism just as bad as national-socialism, there is no more room for freedom in a communist regime than in a national-socialist regime.
Those communist fighters were anything but "freedom" fighters, they were fighting to gain power and install a proletarian dictatorship, and in all countries where those communist fighters did take power after WWII, they were as ruthless as nazis in eliminating political opponents and oppressing people, there was no freedom whatsoever.

Even in France, the communist resistants made no secret that they were taking their orders from Moscow and wanted to take power by force in Paris when the German army would withdraw, an extreme faction even wanted France to become a SSR.
Charles de Gaule was fully aware of this and he never trusted the communist resistants as he knew they would turn on him and try to seize power during the withdrawal of the German army. He was very careful in 1944 to keep communists away from stratigical locations during the liberation to prevent them from taking power, and one of his first actions once he was in Paris was to force the communist resistants to disarm.

So no, communists are no freedom fighters, they were just another totalitarian beast. I've always refused to consider that the Soviet Union, Stalin and his communist fighters all over Europe were fighting on the side of freedom just because they were fighting against the nazis.
This opens up a different question entirely. The whole philosophy of communism as an ideology. In it's untarnished condition it'd really be the perfect form of government - power to the people, literally. Isn't that what the hippies were fighting for in the 70s? The fundamental problem with communism though is that it's not realistic. It's pure utopia. It doesn't consider one basic fact: that humans are flawed... and prone to corruption. This is it's weakest property - communism is helpless against corruption of it's highest institutions (which is usually a solitary Communist Party).
What you need to understand though, is that communist partisans actually did fight for their homeland. An average partisan was nothing but a peasant from a nearby village who was given a machine-gun. They actually believed the utopic idea of communism where it'd be the people running the factories and plowing the fields. Corruption was the furthest thing from their minds. All they saw were promises of a better future - like a promise they'll be given land of their former land-overlords (who were mostly German). Land they'll be able to keep and maintain to become self-sufficient. Doesn't sound bad in theory does it? An average Joe had no clue about the plans communist party made after the war. Tito was just a heroic figure - an icon of the resistance... and no one even knew Stalin existed when they were fighting against nazi occupation. All those things came later. So these people were actually fighting for their homelands and nothing else. Real flaws of communism were only exposed 5 or 10 years later... when it was too late already.
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