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Old 28-02-2004, 10:54   #244
simon simon is offline
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Originally posted by katbeidar
I think that Tatu didn't make it in the West because their music is just not popular there. They are a Euro-dance group. That's is so not in right now.
Maybe we were using 'West' in different senses. I was using 'West' to include mainland western Europe.

I've puzzled about why NGGU was not more successful in the West. NND was the first Tatu song I ever heard and it really impressed me. It's not quite as good as YSSU/ATTSS, but it was still surprising to me that NGGU flopped in the West, particularly when you compare it with what it was up against.

I wondered if the failure was because of a backlash against Tatu after the success of ATTSS.

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Originally posted by sunny poison
It's obvious that Ivan was surprised by reaction TATU got from the West. It was very different from one in Russia. Here nobody got TATU so serious. They were just a pop band, provocative and with this sense of freedome... hard to explain... but nobody was thinking about political correctness here. This thing just doesn't exists in Russia. Anyway, such things as 'paedophilia and child pornography' just didn't pop up in russian minds. TATU were about love, desperation, being missunderstood. Ppl were looking at their facial expressions with emotions and not under their skirts. So, Ivan just didn't realize that ppl on the west took it all really serious. His comments were half-jokes half-provocations. He tried to tell 'hey! this project is about love and fear, life and death and u are talking about paedophilia. What's wrong with you, guys?' But he wasn't smart enough to understand these his comments will be taken not any less serious than the whole thing with TATU.
Yes, I think it was all a misunderstanding between cultures. People here mostly seemed to see Tatu entirely in terms of sex and missed the other aspects. I suppose we're just not as soulful as Russians.

I don't really know why people didn't get the joke of the ATTSS video. Brits (if not Americans) generally have a pretty good sense of humour. However, the country has a hysteria about child abuse that has gradually broadened into a kind of paranoia about teenage sexuality. Maybe they could see the joke, they just thought it was in bad taste and not funny. I'm not sure.

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Originally posted by sunny poison
Anyway, I don't think he regrets his own words. He founded TATU to SAY something to ppl. Not for money. So, the audience that refused to understand wasn't a big loose for him. [I don't say girls agree with him on this. Their aims were a bit different, I guess]. He wanted to do something more than just project. It wasn't understood. As well as his words that he doesn't want to record 2nd album. He wanted to record something more than just album, weren't understood also. Everyone is blaming him for delay [Y&L included if the whole Podnebesnaya thing is true], while 'something more than just album' takes a bit more time to do than just usual album.
Isn't it the case that Russia has now turned away from the kind of message that Tatu had? Russia is becoming increasingly authoritarian. Look at the recent parliamentary elections and the farce of the current presidential election. Look at the political fuss about Yulia's statements about drugs on Anatomy. I heard that a representative of Putin's supporters also condemned her on tv. Do you think that has had anything to do with what appears to have happened in the last few weeks?

Last edited by simon; 28-02-2004 at 11:18.