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Old 02-05-2007, 04:04   #82
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Originally Posted by Ace of Order View Post
But...it isn't a disease as far as the scientific community is concerned. And I hate to say, but EVERYTHING we currently "know" is pretty much a theory. Because at any point in time, new evidence could present itself that could cause us to re-evaluate what we "consider" to be fact right now. (Note: Pluto.) What you take as fact is really just a heavily believed theory. I choose to accept the scientific community's belief that our atmosphere is made of oxygen, carbon dioxide, and other misc. gases, that the speed of light is constant, and that homosexuality is legit. However... that does not in no way mean that it should not be accepted as "fact", because the whole concept of a Fact is based in our understanding of logic and on our investigational sciences.




If that's your answer, then I assume you take absolutely nothing as fact, because everything we know is based off the investigational sciences. Everything.



Interesting. There was a study done in the Netherlands involving several autopsies of pre-op transexuals that found that they biologically had the brain formations and size of their personally identified gender. So it would seem that they did in fact understand that their body was not in congruence with their mind (or for that matter, their physical brain). Source: http://www.symposion.com/ijt/ijtc0106.htm

It would seem that there is valid biological "proof" of transsexualism.

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If you're going to go back several decades and say that I have the mental disorder of homosexuality, then I'm going to playfully go back several centuries to when there were only 13 colonies making up America, and say that you're not American because you're off in the wilderness to the West. I mean, it WAS "fact" that America was only the thirteen states back then...

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Interesting. There was a study done in the Netherlands involving several autopsies of pre-op transexuals that found that they biologically had the brain formations and size of their personally identified gender. So it would seem that they did in fact understand that their body was not in congruence with their mind (or for that matter, their physical brain). Source: http://www.symposion.com/ijt/ijtc0106.htm
This still dosen't make what I said untrue. There IS a difference in a girl who likes to play sports, than a girl who wants a penis. And obviously that was so with the pre op's, your body adapts to your enviornment and your mental state. If you can convince yourself that you're sick, you're going to feel sick. If you can convince yourself that you are the wrong gender, there is bound to be some chnages in hormones and other aspects of the body.

- As for fact/fiction of science. I believe things that have SUBSTANTIAL evidence to be true. Being a transexual as I said, is something you convince yourself of, and then opt to either have an operation or not. It's not like transexuals are natural beings of the world that are not yet understood. It's a man created science that causes the change, just because a person can confuse their body, does not mean that it's something that is normal to do. I think scientists should take this into concideration when they make some of their analysis.

good points however it's nice to have someone to debate with who dosen't rip my head off for living in the midwest for once. I respect that. R+

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True, but I don't ever remember whatever causes homosexexuality to annex texas and florida, or make the Louisiana purchase.
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