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Old 27-01-2006, 08:11   #43
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Just hope the Palestinians will take a good care about the restitution of Gaza Band and will try to rebuilt a decent and correct life (I think than , even if they asked to destroy all the buildings, the World money Helps Will be enough important to rebuilt correctly.....if this time they arrive to the good destination and aren't dropped in the private count of Mr.Arafat..)..
Just hope they won't let use Gaza as a Bombers Ghetto...

Really Hope it will work.
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It's a sad irony because so many people who supported the war in Iraq were saying that once democracy and free elections would be held in the region, people would choose moderate parties that want peace… Yeah, right. In reality it's of course the opposite that has happened, people have put extremist parties in power
Read in a better way my posts Amber...
I've written "I hope".....does it mean "I'm sure"?........ I hoped it for them, I wished it for them......but I never thought it will become truth....

Just because I'm not a dreamer, just because I don't think I have a such wrong perception of Arabic mentality as you should wish ...

Have you noticed how did they manifest their joy when territories were given back ? They took all their guns and shotted in the sky , everywhere during hours....
Of course it belongs to the tradition but it isn't an "optimistic" way to see the future.

I think IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY for them.....they didn't catch it....so now it's their problem!

Like in Iraq. They have made a choice. They have to assume the responsibility of their choice now.
What is important for me is the FACT THEY COULD VOTE FREELY, in a DEMOCRATIC WAY.
It's very important. They could do it under Saddam.
Now people vote as they feel and not as WE WISH.

I'm sorry to tell you that but you see the situation with a very occidental eye and state of mind.
They have an absolute different way of thinking.


All the values are different. Honor is more important than Democracy or even Life.

About Israël, I've deeply wished the best for them. If they have stayed in a peace process they would have got colossal subventions from Europe and even States.
They could have rebuilt a decent country.

They have made another choice. But they have made this choice in voting in a correct vote with no cheating (apparently).

What I deeply thought is just it will happen what has always happened before: I remind you how Israël has extended its territories: each time an accord was found and each time Israël gave back territories , Israël was attacked again!!! and replied and got more territories....it happened 3 times by the past...so why not a fourth time!

Just because they don't know to STOP.......instead to taking what is given and try to improve it and try to get more further by negotiations including respect of peace ...they want ALL, EVERYTHING....and prefer play to the terrorists and guerilleros....okay ...that's their choice......and they will cry again after that 's so unfair....and it will begin again.....vicious circle....

So I really think that Palestinians won't accept a such accord and will never try to stop to attentats/ terrorism acts and they will never stop cause they just want EVERYTHING , including the destruction of the Israël State.

So I guess the result will be a new offensive of Israël and the lost , for Palestinians, of Everything!

It's impossible to get a peaceful situation without concession. Like in real life, like in a couple. It's the same. If you want everything and just the things that you desire for you , you lose everything.

By the way, I've grown up in Morocco, I shared 6 years of my life with an Arabic Muslim person, I've a lot of Arabic Muslim friends, so I don't think I'm so blind or dumb or idiot in my perception of Arabic Muslim mentality.

If you just look at the situation just with European or even judeo-Christian eyes, I'm not sure you could get everything....so try to look at with Arabic mentality and you'll see that the chances of peace are very small and very far.

PS: Rachel , you think it's amazing compared to UK .....
Don't you think neither it's amazing that Imams could freely call to the Holly War and to murder in English mosques without having problems?
England is a huge refuge to this callers to murder and a great place to collect, in the mosques, huge money which is sent to buy Weapons to liberate Palestine.

I agree with PowerPuff Grrl,...this result is just an Officialisation of the Hamas which was ALWAYS there ,under Arafat....even if this last one officially denied it for diplomatic reasons.

Last edited by nath; 27-01-2006 at 08:35.
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