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Talyubittu 21-01-2007 16:05

Learning Russian!
 
Alright so I'm not "fluent". But I understand a big deal of it usually. If anyone interested I could teach them some basics of how to format basic sentences, understand basic instructions, respond to questions and just "get by". I'm not going to be able to teach you to go into a Russian classroom and write a report but if you're interested I can teach you how to say "I can't write a report" lol? If anyones interested, I'll make up some spreadsheats for you breaking down the declension (breaking down) of Russian words. And their uses in cases and how to use the correct feminine, masculine and neuter endings. I really want to study with some people to help improve my Russian. As of now it's quite "plohoy". If you're interested let me know so we can form some type of a little study group lol! If anyone who speaks Russian fluently as well is interested in helping out, I'd appreciate it and I'm sure some others would as well. Anyone wanna go for it!?

Talyubittu 21-01-2007 16:17

:) Ya Tozhe.

midori 22-01-2007 13:53

I would like to learn russian ^^

tatutik 22-01-2007 14:05

I know russian))
Tak chto ya kruche vas!)))))))

Obie 22-01-2007 16:58

I's also want to learn Russian!!!!!, I've downloaded a course online,,, it's quite nice but at the same time confusing....
Thaks!, so whene do we start teacher???

vanik 23-01-2007 00:09

It sounds good! but seems to be a so hard to learn lenguage... :confused:

Perhaps if I could find a russian girlfriend... it would help... anyone interested? :liplick: :lol: :blabla:

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Buy the way... nice to meet you again obezyanki old friend

Talyubittu 23-01-2007 00:17

Lesson 1
 
I'm starting some spreadsheets as we post lol!

Obie 23-01-2007 14:39

Well I read this in a site... mmm,, specially for Spanish speakers about vowels pronunciation,,, Se pronuncia como is something like It's pronunced as....

Vowels Pronunciation

It's really basic but oh well. This doesn't work with English Speakers since vowels vary,,, example I (in spanish it's pronunced as in thin - only the I, not a-i), ans so O (o not o-u) and E (e not i as thin).. bahhh,,,, don't read this :bum:

The whole course is here..... in SPANISH only 50 lessons :rolleyes: ....

Offtop:
Hi Vanik, too long he he,, I dunno where to contact you,,,, you'd better be around man :mad: ,,, ha ha :p , welcome back.

Talyubittu 24-01-2007 23:08

Alright. I've got the first section of our lessons planned out. This is how the outline will go until further noticed. I will upload all of the spreadsheets to the internet for you to download. You also won't have to hunt for them because I will edit my first post in the topic to feature everything. Alright, this is how our exercises will go for the Nominative Case's Introduction.


1. Learning Nominative Case Basics - Pronouns
2. Pronouns and Verbs in the Nominative Case
3. Using Plural Nouns in Nominative Case
4. Forming sentences with The Nominative Case using Verbs
5. Final Review of the Nominative Case.
__________________________________________________ ____

1. Learning Accusative Case Pronouns
2. Pronouns and Verbs in Accusative Case
3. Nouns in Accustaive Case
4. Using Plurals in Accusative Case
5. Forming Sentences in Accusative Case
6. Final Review of Accusative Case
__________________________________________________ ____

1. Learning Prepositional Case Pronouns
2. Pronouns and Verbs in Prepositional Case
3. Nouns in Prepositional Case
4. Using Plurals in Prepositional Case
5. Forming Sentences in Prepositional Case
6. Review of Nominative Case, Accusative Case and Prepositional Case.
__________________________________________________ ____________

Once three of the six cases in Russian have been generally grasped by most people. We will move into Vocabulary for Russian in this direction.

1. Numbers and Counting
2. Places and Telling Time
3. People and School
4. In The Work Enviornment
5. Shopping
6. Foods

_________________________________________________

Then we will apply our vocabulary skills into compiled worksheets of the first three cases. Such as forming your own sentences correctly using the new vocabulary.




This is all I have planned SO FAR.


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Requirements for Using The Worksheet Below


1. Worksheet is Completed in Microsoft Works Word Processor. Please download a word document viewing program or have someone copy the files to a format you can use.

2. Please have the ER UniversIV2 and ER UniversIF2 Russian Coded Fonts (Not Cyrillic Text - Just Cyrillic Covering for Latin Phonetic Letters). If you do not have these font's - you most likely will not be able to see the Russian text listed on the spreadsheet.



WORKSHEET 1 - Nominative Case Introduction

http://www.sendspace.com/file/bezsux

Talyubittu 25-01-2007 23:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy malchik (Post 337081)
Ok, I know counting:

1 (odin)
2 (dva)
3 (tri)
4 (chetire)
5 (pyaty)
6 (shesty)
7 (semy)
8 (vosyemy)
9 (devyaty)
10 (desyaty)
11 (odinadcaty)
12 (dvanadcaty)
13 (trinadcaty)
14 (chtverenadcaty)
15 (pyetnadcaty)
16 (shestnadcaty)
17 (semynadcaty)
18 (vosemnadcaty)
19 (devyatnadcaty)
20 (dvadcat)

:yes:

Those are incorrect. None of the Russian numbers end in "Caty" or "my".

And we're not going over numbers until after the first three cases are taught.

Obie 26-01-2007 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talyubittu (Post 336969)

1. Worksheet is Completed in Microsoft Works Word Processor. Please download a word document viewing program or have someone copy the files to a format you can use.


WORKSHEET 1 - Nominative Case Introduction

http://www.sendspace.com/file/bezsux

Yeah,, where's the Spanish work-sheet then????? :confused: ... nahhh, :p thanks Talyubittu I'll start on it as soon as I can.

Talyubittu 26-01-2007 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy malchik (Post 337185)
"y" - soft sign
"c" - pronounced in Russian, not English! :yes:

lol. You cannot mix Cyrillic and Latin letters together.

QueenBee 26-01-2007 22:43

That's so awesome... :D
(now if only someone could do that in German!)

Talyubittu 26-01-2007 22:48

I can do it in German for you too if you'd like QueenBee. I've only had a year of German.And not to brag as you can see I kinda have a thing for langauges, it comes easy to me. So if you want, I can make some verb conjegation pages and sentence sheets for you as well as some vocabulary.


(BTW - does anyone have any problems seeing them or getting the ER universal fonts?)

QueenBee 26-01-2007 23:02

Talyubittu, oh my gosh, could yoooou? That would be really amazing!

Quote:

(BTW - does anyone have any problems seeing them or getting the ER universal fonts?)
I have troubles seeing the document, I downloaded a word viewer program thingy but I'm not sure which coding to use... I've tried a bunch and all I see is squares basically. I also downloaded a converter (works -> word, 'cause it's a .wps file and the word viewer doesn't recognize it) but apparently I need Word in order to convert.
Eh... yes.

Also, fonts can be downloaded here:
http://www.russnet.org/fontInstXP.html

They're both in the zip file. :)

Talyubittu 26-01-2007 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by QueenBee (Post 337251)
Talyubittu, oh my gosh, could yoooou? That would be really amazing!


I have troubles seeing the document, I downloaded a word viewer program thingy but I'm not sure which coding to use... I've tried a bunch and all I see is squares basically. I also downloaded a converter (works -> word, 'cause it's a .wps file and the word viewer doesn't recognize it) but apparently I need Word in order to convert.
Eh... yes.

Also, fonts can be downloaded here:
http://www.russnet.org/fontInstXP.html

They're both in the zip file. :)


I'm putting them into microsoft word 6. And if that dosent work then I'll put them into another program like wordpad. I'll just have to do some formatting. Do you want German ones too then?

QueenBee 26-01-2007 23:07

Talyubittu, you're an angel :)

Quote:

Do you want German ones too then?
Yes, please! But only if you have time and feel like doing it.

Talyubittu 26-01-2007 23:08

I've got plenty of time to do it. Like I said, I'm only a year into German classes, but I know quite a bit. I can conjugate verbs for you, show you how to build sentences, tell time, order food in germany, get around a city etc. Just basic stuff for now but you'll have a nice introduction into it and I can update the more I learn as well :).

LOL. and I doubt a lot of people here think I'm an Angel LOL.

Talyubittu 27-01-2007 18:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy malchik (Post 337337)
You see I can. :laugh:

"You Cannot" wasn't meant in the litteral sense of "not being physically able".

I meant that when transliterating text - you are supposed to use phonetic letters. You cannot combine certain alphabets together to get an effect.

anngi 27-01-2007 21:03

for the german lesson: I can help if it's necessary - just pm me if you need help:)

EDIT: Also I like the idea of making a russian lesson - although I'm learning russian in school for 3 years now.

Valito 08-02-2007 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obezyanki (Post 336726)
Well I read this in a site... mmm,, specially for Spanish speakers about vowels pronunciation,,, Se pronuncia como is something like It's pronunced as....

Vowels Pronunciation

It's really basic but oh well. This doesn't work with English Speakers since vowels vary,,, example I (in spanish it's pronunced as in thin - only the I, not a-i), ans so O (o not o-u) and E (e not i as thin).. bahhh,,,, don't read this :bum:

The whole course is here..... in SPANISH only 50 lessons :rolleyes: ....

Offtop:
Hi Vanik, too long he he,, I dunno where to contact you,,,, you'd better be around man :mad: ,,, ha ha :p , welcome back.

U made my day Obezyanki! I'm argentinian, hehe, where u from?

midori 08-02-2007 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by anngi (Post 337426)
for the german lesson: I can help if it's necessary - just pm me if you need help

are we going to make lessons for every language here? :p

Valito 08-02-2007 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by midori (Post 339425)
are we going to make lessons for every language here? :p

someone interested in Spanish ? :D

anngi 08-02-2007 22:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by midori (Post 339425)
are we going to make lessons for every language here? :p

why not? :D and yeah...who needs german anyway? we're a death race anyway :blabla:

Obie 09-02-2007 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valito (Post 339406)
U made my day Obezyanki! I'm argentinian, hehe,

Yeah, nice nick btw,,, how is it doing???, how are your lessons going???....

Yeah, learning languages can be hard for some reasons:

1. Not the same pronunciation of letters (in case it's the same alphabet)
2. Not the same alphabet (it's dead!)
3. Different grammar rules
4. New grammar rules
5. Coherence.

6. Rare vocabulary and pronunciation
Ex. in French there's an expression "chez" which means "at someone's house" in Spanish "en la casa de...". I mean "Chez Dj_volk" means "At Dj_volk's house" or in Spanish "En la casa de Dj_volk".

And for ex. to count numbers 6, 10 are pronounced six ("sis") and ("dis"), but when we talk about a number of things (numbers folowed by a noun) it changes and the "S" is not pronounced.... 6 (six) kilometers in French in "Six Kilométres" (Si - Kilometr).

And numbers,, :lol:,,, just to say 80 in French i's said something like 4 times 20.
80 = Quatre-vingt (Quatre=4 Vingt=20)
and see.... 90=Quatre-vingt-dix

I still doubt how those numbers are written (quatrevingt or quatre-vingt)

BTW Anyone interested in learning French????,, ah ahhahhah :lol:,, sorry I had to ask... I see we've all gone offtop here so lately.

anngi 09-02-2007 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obezyanki (Post 339535)

I still doubt how those numbers are written (quatrevingt or quatre-vingt)

We wrote quatre-vingt as I learned french in school...many years ago :D

Talyubittu 17-03-2007 01:37

Some updates!

As, I have been very busy and cannot continue to take 50 minutes a day creating these sheets, I've found an alternative for you guys!


xLingo.com is a great place to find someone who learn another language with you via MSN/Skype, if you don't have skype, download it, it's amazing.

www.magicrussian.com - is also good. But not free - it's an online class over skype

and lastly - if you just wish to be able to type some things in Russian, but don't have a Russian keyboard. use

http://www.translit.ru/

if you type somthing in using latin characters (these), it will automatically translate it into russian cyrillic, correct endings and all! I hope this helps!

anml 17-03-2007 01:47

-.- i guess misses this thead too...
erm..*cough* could somebody upload the first lesson again? :rolleyes: :rose:

volk1 03-04-2007 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talyubittu (Post 343998)

and lastly - if you just wish to be able to type some things in Russian, but don't have a Russian keyboard. use

http://www.translit.ru/

if you type somthing in using latin characters (these), it will automatically translate it into russian cyrillic, correct endings and all! I hope this helps!


Most computers have a universal language feature.
Start > Control Panel > Date, Time, Language, and Regional Options > Add other languages >
Details...

Most of you will have english as the default language, but if you don't, all of this works just the same.
You will see a white box under "Installed services" that shows what languages you have installed.

Click "Add" and you will see a drop-down menu.
On the first drop down menu, select Russian.
And Russian (typewriter) should automatically appear in the bottom drop down menu.
Click Ok.

Then at the bottom of the original language screen, it should say "Language Bar..."
Click that and you will see check boxes. Check the FIRST and the THIRD box.
Click Ok then "Apply"

Now, in the bottom right corner of your screen (on the navigation bar NOT your desktop) you should see a little box that says "EN" or letters that represent your default language.
Click on that little box and you should have choices. Russian should be one of those choices.
Upon selecting "Russian," you should be able to type in Cyrillic. However, of course the Cyrillic alphabet doesn't correspond to the English alphabet so you will just have to figure out what goes where. I, myself, have ordered Cyrillic keyboard stickers.

Check it out

:coctail:

Леска 03-04-2007 23:57

Гыгы....for what,if they sing on English too?:flag:

Talyubittu 04-04-2007 01:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by volk1 (Post 346223)
Most computers have a universal language feature.
Start > Control Panel > Date, Time, Language, and Regional Options > Add other languages >
Details...

Most of you will have english as the default language, but if you don't, all of this works just the same.
You will see a white box under "Installed services" that shows what languages you have installed.

Click "Add" and you will see a drop-down menu.
On the first drop down menu, select Russian.
And Russian (typewriter) should automatically appear in the bottom drop down menu.
Click Ok.

Then at the bottom of the original language screen, it should say "Language Bar..."
Click that and you will see check boxes. Check the FIRST and the THIRD box.
Click Ok then "Apply"

Now, in the bottom right corner of your screen (on the navigation bar NOT your desktop) you should see a little box that says "EN" or letters that represent your default language.
Click on that little box and you should have choices. Russian should be one of those choices.
Upon selecting "Russian," you should be able to type in Cyrillic. However, of course the Cyrillic alphabet doesn't correspond to the English alphabet so you will just have to figure out what goes where. I, myself, have ordered Cyrillic keyboard stickers.

Check it out

:coctail:

Thats why I liked translit.ru for awhile you don't need to buy stickers :)

volk1 04-04-2007 01:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talyubittu (Post 346297)
Thats why I liked translit.ru for awhile you don't need to buy stickers :)

Yes, but using a Cyrillic keyboard, you could, say, send IMs in Russian Cyrillic :coctail:

And I'm sure if you used it enough, you'd memorize where each character was on the keyboard.

anml 04-04-2007 02:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Леска (Post 346292)
Гыгы....for what,if they sing on English too?:flag:

They are many reasons why somebody would like to learning russian ;)

--

Like i said above, could somebody upload the 1 Worksheet again? please? :rose: :rose: :rose:


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Edit: lol nobody can upload again for me? :rolleyes: people hate me :(

sk8rgrlzzz 09-04-2007 02:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by volk1 (Post 346223)
Most computers have a universal language feature.
Start > Control Panel > Date, Time, Language, and Regional Options > Add other languages >
Details...

Most of you will have english as the default language, but if you don't, all of this works just the same.
You will see a white box under "Installed services" that shows what languages you have installed.

Click "Add" and you will see a drop-down menu.
On the first drop down menu, select Russian.
And Russian (typewriter) should automatically appear in the bottom drop down menu.
Click Ok.

Then at the bottom of the original language screen, it should say "Language Bar..."
Click that and you will see check boxes. Check the FIRST and the THIRD box.
Click Ok then "Apply"

Now, in the bottom right corner of your screen (on the navigation bar NOT your desktop) you should see a little box that says "EN" or letters that represent your default language.
Click on that little box and you should have choices. Russian should be one of those choices.
Upon selecting "Russian," you should be able to type in Cyrillic. However, of course the Cyrillic alphabet doesn't correspond to the English alphabet so you will just have to figure out what goes where. I, myself, have ordered Cyrillic keyboard stickers.

Check it out

:coctail:



Just thought I'd mention that you can also use the on screen keyboard.
Programs> Accessories> Accessibility> On Screen Keyboard

You can use that along with and after setting the computer to type in Cyrillic.

Talyubittu 09-04-2007 02:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by anml (Post 346303)
They are many reasons why somebody would like to learning russian ;)

--

Like i said above, could somebody upload the 1 Worksheet again? please? :rose: :rose: :rose:


Offtop:
Edit: lol nobody can upload again for me? :rolleyes: people hate me :(

I would upload it for you, but I'm not home. If you send me a PM tomorrow, I'll remember to upload it for you :)

anml 10-04-2007 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talyubittu (Post 346956)
I would upload it for you, but I'm not home. If you send me a PM tomorrow, I'll remember to upload it for you :)

Thx Talyubittu!! :rose: rose:

Whispering 12-04-2007 12:39

а я вот английский хочу выучить)
But i tried to learn English.Though... i think it is much easier than Russian)
Good luck in studying)

If anyone needs help-I'm ready to help)

Leni 19-05-2007 17:05

What is a dick in russian? Like an informal, obscene word for penis? I never find these in dictionaries.
And I´d like to hear other obscene words (curse words etc) in russian too ´cause otherwise I´m never gonna learn them (there are no tv series to teach me filth:cry:). So please..:rose:

Argos 19-05-2007 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leni (Post 353263)
What is a dick in russian? Like an informal, obscene word for penis? I never find these in dictionaries.
And I´d like to hear other obscene words (curse words etc) in russian too ´cause otherwise I´m never gonna learn them (there are no tv series to teach me filth:cry:). So please..:rose:

khren - kher - khuj (in descending 'friendliness' - order)
If you want to dive deeper into Russian slang, I recommend the russian and english wikipedia pages. As beginner's collection of polite words you may try this site. If you can't get enough, use your search engine and type in cyrillic мат. There are lots of interesting links.

Talyubittu 19-05-2007 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leni (Post 353263)
What is a dick in russian? Like an informal, obscene word for penis? I never find these in dictionaries.
And I´d like to hear other obscene words (curse words etc) in russian too ´cause otherwise I´m never gonna learn them (there are no tv series to teach me filth:cry:). So please..:rose:

Hui :)


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