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crazy malchik 13-05-2007 12:59

Serebro
 
Discussion about Serebro - new Russian group.
They were this year's Russian entry for ESC with song "Song Nr. 1" and they were 3rd.
The members of the group are Marina Lizorkina, Olya Serebkina, Elena Temnikova
Check them out at http://www.eurovision.tv/addons/medi...video/rus.html


Web-Page

http://www.elenatemnikova.com/site/serebro.htm


Serebro - Song Nr. 1 Lyrics

Five, four, three, two
Listen to me
All my girls get ready (Uh huh)
We'll make it easy (Uh uh)

When I catch you picking me
You better get a chill
Boy, you wanna take on me
'Cause I'm your killing pill

Can't you see the way I move
My dress, my flashy skin
Listen up, you know I got
The place you've never been

Slow down
Boy, you don't wanna let me down
You better stop, you know what
Oh, don't call me funny bunny
I'll blow your money, money
I'll get you to my bad ass spinning for you
Oh, I'll make it easy, honey
I'll take your money, yummy
I've got my bitches standing up next to me

So come and check it (Uh)
So come and check it (Uh)
So come and check it
My bad ass spinning for you (Ow)

So come and check it (Uh)
So come and check it (Uh)
So come and check it
My bad ass spinning for you (Ow)

Keep on taking over you
It's kinda getting free
Baby boy you know I still
Got sexy freak in me

Gotta tease you nasty guy
So take it, don't be shy
Put your cherry on my cake
And taste my cherry pie

Slow down
Boy, you don't wanna let me down
You better stop, you know what
Oh, don't call me funny bunny
I'll blow your money, money
I'll get you to my bad ass spinning for you
Oh, I'll make it easy, honey
I'll take your money, yummy
I've got my bitches standing up next to me

Maybe I'll take you with me tonight
Maybe you'll show me another way
And find a reason for me to stay
But something I must tell you


Photos

http://escforever.com/gallery/2006/RUS1.jpg
http://escforever.com/gallery/2006/RUS2.jpg
http://www.eurovision.tv/images/stor...us_serebro.jpg

taturocks8 13-05-2007 14:25

Thanks for the links :D Also more about them on here and more links at the bottom of the page.
:D http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serebro

Also there myspace page. http://www.myspace.com/serebrosilver

Fallen_Angel 15-05-2007 08:28

Song #1(CDS)

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1...ebrocdsyy7.jpg

O1. Serebro - Song #1 [Eurovision Mix]
Size: 2.73 MB
http://sharebee.com/a05b48b2

O2. Serebro - song #1 [Extented Video Mix]
Size: 3.44 MB
http://sharebee.com/10deb672

Offical music video.This is the video as HQ(57.9 Mb).
http://filepost.ru/preview/b/b0b1e9e...cc4e1eb0_0.jpg
http://filepost.ru/preview/b/b0b1e9e...cc4e1eb0_2.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/?1xgywkfxyky

Offical music video.This is the Black Version as HQ(31.0Mb).

http://www.elenatemnikova.com/Evro2007/Song1big.avi

Enjoy!

Talyubittu 15-05-2007 09:52

I enjoy the group but the song title? "Song #1" It sounds like they ripped it in windows media player and didn't change the title afterwards.

thegurgi 17-05-2007 02:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talyubittu (Post 352490)
I enjoy the group but the song title?

well as shakespeare said, what's in a name? who really cares what it's called, titles are overrated anyway... and what were they gonna call it? "honey bunny?" "come on and check it?" ... those would all be retarted... haha.

someone posted the full cd with the 14 versions somewhere, it's amazing they could somehow make 14 versions of it... don't know if it's necessary, how about something new max? where's your usual brand of magic!?

Talyubittu 17-05-2007 05:20

Quote:

well as shakespeare said, what's in a name? who really cares what it's called, titles are overrated anyway... and what were they gonna call it? "honey bunny?" "come on and check it?" ... those would all be retarted... haha.
A title is very important to an artist. They could have given it a simple title like "Check It" or something that isn't as ignorantly named as "Song #1"

Quote:

"honey bunny?"
The line is "Funny Bunny"

la aurora 17-05-2007 06:24

Promo CD (13 tracks)
Cover [front]
Cover [back]
this is a promo-CD they gave out in Helsinki, or Song #1 Single, if you like. The names of the files are wrong in this package. Check the cover to get the right order

Version they performed at Eurovision is a Red one (so is ESC promo-video)
Extended version of the song and video is Red2 one, I believe.

Black version is the one they performed on MTV show 'Polniy Kontakt'.
Blue version is a mix with Glukoza's beats. Natasha just gave birth to a child recently and you can hear them congratulating her and doing this version specially for her.
Orange one is acapella with vocals alone.
Rest are in various styles. I personally like Pink one even if I find it hard to understnad why this dark sexy version is called this way :bum:

Title thing explanation. It's a part of the simplistic concept they came up with. The idea is to provide content in a very simple pack. When you look at the Single cover, you can get the idea. All versions have various colors applied to them, so you can say 'balck version' or 'white version' without all that 'super-duper extended club badaboom remix by xxx'. The second song on the album will be called 'Song #2', so you already know the titles of all songs on the future album :D The album itself will be probably called 'Album #1'. I bet they'd call themselves 'Unknown Artist' if they didn't like the name Serebro this much. You can like it or not but that's the game they play.

Official site of the band is: www.serebro.su
It opened recently and you won't find too much information there tho.

Greg, they have material for the album already. The problem is that they planned to release it in 2008 but this ESC thing makes them change those plans. Max just played a game of making different songs from original one showing all the possibilities. Some of those aren't exactly remixes. The vocal line was sang in a different way and couple of versions actually include male vocals. It was done for the promo-CD and it doesn't mean they don't have new stuff planned.

Oh and some cute pics from Helsinki:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/arabella/495861797/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/arabella/495830360/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wstryder/493337247/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wstryder/493316500/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wstryder/493317214/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wstryder/492412446/

P.S. Lena is hot :D

thegurgi 18-05-2007 08:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by la aurora (Post 352861)
Greg, they have material for the album already.

oh don't worry, i was being extremely facetious to see what response i'd get from the kid, and it was funny that he did almost exactly as i predicted (especially the corrected lyric, haha... oh how predictable, sorry... i just had to try (and i was drunk when i posted it)). "Titles are very important for an artist" bahh... tell that to Sigur Ros or almost any Printmaker...

I enjoy this whole nomenclature with their titles, it stripping things down to the basics, where are song is just a song... it's like that whole "Aristocrat" joke... where things have an extravagant title but don't really deserve it. Though i think they are doing that with their group name, i think "Untitled Group" would have been great too...

the thing about the remixes and versions i noticed was that some of them either seem to be pastiches of parodies or popular songs, not in their intrumentals but in the vocals, i remember thinking one was like nelly furtado's promiscous for example. I dunno if that was his intention but it really seems like he attempted something there.

Sunrider 18-05-2007 09:20

thanks for the rapidshare link and the pics, la aurora. :)

And I agree; Lena is this group's Yulia! :P

crazy malchik 18-05-2007 12:32

OMG, I can't wait the album! :D I think it'll be great! :love:
Thanks for info and pics, la aurora, you're lovely, and I'll give you R+! :kwink:

Hey, but what about Marina and Olya? I heard that Marina was lead singer of "Formula". I dunno if Olya can sing. I hope all three of them will sing. I don't want them to be something like Pussycat Dolls. :bum:

la aurora 18-05-2007 13:19

Greg, I think we should not forget that we aren't talking about commercial single here. This CD was made for giving to interested professionals in Helsinki. I guess Max just took couple of styles he considers fashionable and showed they can do it. Like in 'you want Surgababes? here you are. rock for MTV kids? we can do this too' and so on. Plus he added couple of versions in styles he used for his previous projects (if I'm not mistaken, Blue version actually uses one of Glukoza's tracks, just vocals are different). And he also added a couple of versions that can be played in clubs. Looks like progmatic material made by one professional for other professionals. He didn't even count on big success I think. He made it quite clear that this project was meant for Asian market where there's much more space still.

crazy malchik
Both Marina and Olga have musical education and experience. Olga is professional dancer and she did back vocals for a while. Marina sang in Formula and recordered a couple of songs for soap opera here. I think the main reason it's Lena mostly in this song is that ESC is stressful and 2 other girls don't have much experience being on public. Being a producer I bet you'd put most of the work on someone you are confident with in this case. I heard them saying they do have other songs with girls sining more in earlier interviews and few days before the contest there was a report on them in Helsinki where Lena said 'I sing most of the song and I barely have enough breath for that, so I can't afford catching a cold'. She stressed 'this song' in that one, meaning it's not the case with all songs.

crazy malchik 18-05-2007 14:19

OMG, la aurora, stop, you're making me the happiest man alive! :o :rose: :love: (I love Serebro :D)Ok, don't stop, I wanna ask you one more thing: Olya looks so creepy. She has that cold look, not always but she's so creepy sometimes, and I get the feeling that she's so... like... coldhearted... Is she, is she? lol :bum:

Also, ppl, could someone upload songs one by one? I've downloaded them, they're great (I love the Silver version and Pink is awesome :D) and so, I put the link on my blog, but I got comments from people who have slow connections, and they couldn't download it, so I erased the whole promo CD link! Will anybody be so good and help me and my inocent blog? lol :(

la aurora 18-05-2007 14:50

crazy malchik,
it's hard to get an idea on personalities of 2 other girls. It's easier with Lena as I remember her from 4 years ago and can see where this or that comes from while these 2 are looking bit pale at the moment due to being put next to much more emotionally open and bright Lena who has also got much more experience when it comes to public attention. I guess they'll learn to be stars, they just need some time ;)

But from what I see now, no, I don't get impression on her being cold-hearted. I think some of it comes from her dancing career. She's been in it for 13 years and has some title actually meaning she was serious about that. You know what ballroom dancers are like... they have to keep that straight back all the time and look classy. Probably this is what gives you that impression. But at the moments she puts it down, she appears to be rather shy and soft. I'd say she's the least bitchy of 3 even.

And I'll see what I can do about the album. Will post links bit later probably

crazy malchik 18-05-2007 15:20

You don't have to help me with songs also, you helped me already a lot... But if you insist... lol

I'm trying to translate something... I think that the girls said that Marija is lesbian. Dunno. Wait. lol I'm dumb.

Quote:

Ну, к тебе и Сербия подкатывала.

СЕР. - Но Сербия - это женщина. И я - не лесбиянка.
I think this means: Oh, but Serbia also flirted with you.

Ser. - But Serbia - she's a dyke. And I - am not lesbian.

Quote:

УШ. – Она именно подкатывала?

СЕР. - Да, да. Катилась ко мне, катилась … но я попросила, чтобы эта дама прокатилась мимо меня. Я не хочу ни в коем случае оскорбить Сербию, потому что у меня очень много друзей из Сербии… И замечательная песня, и я рада за 1-ое место. Но вот конкретно к этой девушке из шкафа хотелось бы сказать, что мне было неприятно её внимание. И я не поняла этого формата общения.
She flirted good?

Ser. - Yes, yes. She tried with me, tried, but I asked, why does that lady try with me. I don't want to (I know the Serbian word, not English lol) Serbia in any case, because I have many friends form Serbia. And interesting song, and I'm glad it's 1st. But what I want to say about that girls concretly, is that her attention wasn't pleasant for me. And I didn't understand that format at all. lol

Quote:

УШ. – Она не пыталась тебя поцеловать?

СЕР. - Может быть это и было попыткой поцелуя, когда она проходя мимо сделал мне в ухо «ВУУУУУУУУУУУ!», очень близко, практически прикасаясь. А что я могла сказать? Несколько не самых приличных слов, которые я сейчас не хочу говорить.
Did she try to kiss you?

Ser. - Maybe it happened, but not real kiss, when she sat next to me, and told me into my ear "Vuuuuuuuu", really close, practicly (something) What could I say? There were not acceptable words, which I don't want to say now.

Quote:

УШ. – Но ты же видела, что она, какие только жесты не показывала, когда она выиграла.

СЕР. - Вы понимаете, вот в чем проблема, я не могу себе позволить сказать плохо про Сербию . у меня там друзья. Мне близка это страна. И поэтому мне очень тяжело от того, что мы не сошлись характерами непосредственно с солисткой.
But you also saw, that her, didn't show so much passion, when she danced?

You understand what's the problem, I can't allow myself to speak bad things about Serbia, I have friends there. That country is close to me. And I'm sorry because of that, our caracters didn't get along with the solo girl.

Ok, I'm stupid, but I'm trying, and trying! lol

la aurora 18-05-2007 15:48

crazy malchik
just saw they got tracks on the Temnikova's site. Check it out.

Translation of bits you quoted:
Quote:

Ну, к тебе и Сербия подкатывала.
СЕР. - Но Сербия - это женщина. И я - не лесбиянка.
Well, Serbian representative seemed to hit on you as well. (they talked about Turkish guy having a go on her before)
Lena: Yes, but Serbian representative was a woman and I'm not a lesbian.

Quote:

УШ. – Она именно подкатывала?
СЕР. - Да, да. Катилась ко мне, катилась … но я попросила, чтобы эта дама прокатилась мимо меня. Я не хочу ни в коем случае оскорбить Сербию, потому что у меня очень много друзей из Сербии… И замечательная песня, и я рада за 1-ое место. Но вот конкретно к этой девушке из шкафа хотелось бы сказать, что мне было неприятно её внимание. И я не поняла этого формата общения.
Was she hitting on you really?
Lena: Yeah, yeah.. hitting on me, hitting.. but I asked this lady to hit something else. I really don't want to sound offensive to Serbia because I have many friends from there... And the song is wonderful and I'm happy for them winning. But if we talk about this concrete girl in the closet, I have to say I wasn't pleased with attention I got from her. I just didn't understand this format of interaction.

Quote:

УШ. – Она не пыталась тебя поцеловать?
СЕР. - Может быть это и было попыткой поцелуя, когда она проходя мимо сделал мне в ухо «ВУУУУУУУУУУУ!», очень близко, практически прикасаясь. А что я могла сказать? Несколько не самых приличных слов, которые я сейчас не хочу говорить.
Dindn't she try to kiss you?
Lena: May be it was a kiss atempt, when she was passing me by she got really close, almost touching me and made a 'Wooooooo' into my ear. What could I say? A couple of not so polite words that I don't want to repeat now.

Quote:

УШ. – Но ты же видела, что она, какие только жесты не показывала, когда она выиграла.
СЕР. - Вы понимаете, вот в чем проблема, я не могу себе позволить сказать плохо про Сербию . у меня там друзья. Мне близка это страна. И поэтому мне очень тяжело от того, что мы не сошлись характерами непосредственно с солисткой.
But you saw her reaction when she won and all those guestures she made.
Lena: You see, the problem is that I really can't allow myself to say anything bad about Serbia. I have friends there. I feel attracted to this country. And that's why it's really upsetting for me that we didn't really get along with their singer.

That's pretty much it. Zhenschina is 'a woman' not 'a dyke' really ;)

crazy malchik 18-05-2007 18:07

One R+! :) :D :D

* Going to change my fav. member list :gigi: *

la aurora 18-05-2007 19:47

Yay! I made it into charts :D

Seems more than 2 titles were confused in the pack above, Silver one is a video actually, so here's the proper list with links to all songs (256kb/s)

01. Red (ESC Version)
02. Violet (Classic Instrumental)
03. Black (Rock, MTV Polniy Kontakt Version)
04. Pink (Dark sexy version with male vocals)
05. Green
06. Yellow
07. Sky Blue (Oriental)
08. Vinous (Bloodhound Gang-sih)
09. Grey (Timbaland-ish)
10. White
11. Blue (Serebro meets Glukoza)
12. Red2 (Extended Video Version)
13. Orange (Acapella)

Talyubittu 18-05-2007 19:57

Quote:

oh don't worry, i was being extremely facetious to see what response i'd get from the kid, and it was funny that he did almost exactly as i predicted (especially the corrected lyric, haha... oh how predictable, sorry... i just had to try (and i was drunk when i posted it)). "Titles are very important for an artist" bahh... tell that to Sigur Ros or almost any Printmaker...
You know you're right. Getting online and making a post for the sole purpose of getting a heated response from someone to irritate them makes me the "kid". Whats childish is me saying something like this in response...

- You make a number of posts that are virtually the same i.e. correcting people for various things and debating.

Offtop:
oh wait, thats true though


I don't understand the facination of getting online to "predict" how people react to your posts. Even if they are made facetiously.

Please don't use a cover up that I am childish when I correct your wrong lyrics or give an opinion that contrasts your own. It's not that big of a deal.

Thats the purpose of the forum, to discuss and inform people. If my dicussion of the group bothers you, perhaps you need a new hobbie other than photoshop, touring Europe, and "predicting" childish posts.


Quote:

I enjoy this whole nomenclature with their titles, it stripping things down to the basics, where are song is just a song... it's like that whole "Aristocrat" joke... where things have an extravagant title but don't really deserve it. Though i think they are doing that with their group name, i think "Untitled Group" would have been great too...
Really? I think it seems lazy. It's actually just something lazy IMO - that they hope people will over analyze and interpret as something artistic. Which is what has happened here.

- I also think it's rude that she's saying this Serbian woman was nothing other than a horny dyke basically.

_________

la aurora 18-05-2007 20:40

Talyubittu,
it's really urs and Greg's business of course but the smart one is not the one that has the last word in an argument, the smart one is the first to stop it. Not giving advices or something, it's just random thoughts I've always been known having from time to time.

Serebro wasn't created yesterday. Fadeev really never tried to hide that he had some serious hopes on Lena and they've been trying to come up with project for her for long 3 years. The band itself is about 1 year old. I really think that even laziest person would find this time enough to come up with 10-15 titles. This project is obviously a dear one to Fadeev and if he goes for this concept, it means he wants to try different approach. Most of his project have a bit of experiemnting feeling about them and I don't see why it wouldn't be the case with this one.

Lena never said Serbian singer was a horny dyke. She said there was an accident and explained what happened exactly. I'm far from being homophobic.. very far actually but I must admit I wouldn't feel easy if someone did this to me. Marija is a nice singer and most likely a nice person but she does have that agressive butchiness in her and for girly girl it may seem being 'too much'. Political correctness was never Lena's strongest side, she grew up far from this big proper city and got used to openly expressing her feelings. But I've never really heard/seen her being rude for the sake of being rude, cool or scandalous.

crazy malchik 18-05-2007 20:57

Offtop:
Guys, I'm waiting someone gives la aurora rep points, because I can't give her rep points unless someone gives them too! Then I'll be able to award her for being so good. :kwink: Aaaaah.

spyretto 18-05-2007 23:00

They got THIRTEEN versions of the same song?
They're one hit wonders x 13

Talyubittu 19-05-2007 05:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by la aurora (Post 353147)
Talyubittu,
iLena never said Serbian singer was a horny dyke. She said there was an accident and explained what happened exactly. I'm far from being homophobic.. very far actually but I must admit I wouldn't feel easy if someone did this to me. Marija is a nice singer and most likely a nice person but she does have that agressive butchiness in her and for girly girl it may seem being 'too much'. Political correctness was never Lena's strongest side, she grew up far from this big proper city and got used to openly expressing her feelings. But I've never really heard/seen her being rude for the sake of being rude, cool or scandalous.

I love Serebro, but I highly doubt it all happened the way she suggests it did. She comes from one of the most anti-gay countries in the entire world as far as their government is concered. I have nothing wrong with her expressing her feelings, but for that reporter to go on and on and for her to reply makes it look like Eurovision was nothing but a meat market for the Serbian woman.

la aurora 19-05-2007 08:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talyubittu (Post 353210)
I love Serebro, but I highly doubt it all happened the way she suggests it did. She comes from one of the most anti-gay countries in the entire world as far as their government is concered. I have nothing wrong with her expressing her feelings, but for that reporter to go on and on and for her to reply makes it look like Eurovision was nothing but a meat market for the Serbian woman.

I come from this wierd anti-gay country as well ;) Things are never as simple as they seem when you talk about 140 mln people together. We are a complicated mixture of cultures, religions, mentalities. We have our specific relationship with authorities, half of them we vote for the sake of fun without really trusting them to make our lives better. Our show-business if pretty interesting too. There's no gay taboo. I mean c'mon, our biggest stars of the begining of 21st century are Tatu and Zemfira (who's a lesbian icon in many ways). Nochniye Snaipery, Gosti iz Buduschego had impressive gay starts, 'Golubaya Luna' by Moiseev&Tribach was a major hit here that everyone still remembers, Kirkorov recordered a duet love-song with Sakis Rouvas. Audience loves that.

We don't really treat gays in the way civilized world does though. We are not too educated as society when it comes to this. For majority gays are fictional characters just like Mitrofanov for example (he's not a politician, he's has same value that some gay artists do, he's here to entertain). We don't really hate them, we just don't believe in them. And we don't see them in ourselves while often being more physically open than people on the West. I mean our commie leaders used to greet each other with kisses on the lips ;) Or look at Lena herself. You've seen that Green Room picture already, I guess and it's not the first time she's seen in situations with girls outsider would consider 'interesting', she just doesn't know it's a 'gay thing', for many of us it's pretty 'normal'.

This was a morning show on popular music radio. There were three hosts in their far from serious morning mood. It was all about gossip. In the same interview hosts were asking about a visit to american shaman and suggested that white sticky liquid they found in the dressing room was just demonstration of love from some fans. Lena is attractive young lady and the host asking about this situation was a straight male. I mean, being one, you don't often skip the opportunity to get juicy details on strories like this :p Marija being in show-business and being gay is nothing worth serious concern for us, it's part of entertainment.

P.S. I hope no one takes written above as offense. I was talking about things I see around me. It's a popular attitude here that I personally don't fully share.

crazy malchik 19-05-2007 10:12

Ooooh, I can't wait for the album... I've read on www.elenatemnikova.com/site/serebro.htm, that they're going to release one song first, and after comes the album! :yes: :confused:

I really would like to hear Olya sing (as well as Marina), and to see her laughing. lol :gigi: :laugh:

la aurora 19-05-2007 12:44

News:
22 May 14.00 Moscow time Serebro girls will be having about 1 hour long online interview on one of the main mail & search sites here. They will be answering questions people send.
To submit a question you need an account there. You can either register on your own or use the public one I made for ones getting lost with such things:
login: questiontoserebro
pass: tatysite

Serebro on 'Let them talk' show (russian)
Lots of people talking bullshit as usual but girls look great :D I keep getting amazed how Mitrofanov always finds his ways to cheer for someone young and female. He's like the main Tatu fan of the country and now he's the the loudest supporter of Serebro girls. No wonder he doesn't have enough time to be a proper politician that actually try to solve problems of the country :p

Hightlights of the show:
- Fadeev watched the performance from toilet as it was the closest screen he could find
- By now they recieved over 7000 mails, some of those had serious offers from recording lables of UK, Greece, France and Italy. Fadeev is surprised as he didn't count on that but now he thinks they probably will give it a try and may be it works out fine for them there.

That's pretty much all actually. Rest was the usuall blah blah blah about the contest and how much we rock and that 3rd place for such a new band is a victory and that girls are hot.

Oh and in case someone wonders what happened at that 'horny hehehe from the audience' moment, it was the host asking girls how the first time in front of such big audience felt and would they compare it with a parachutte jump or first diving experience and Lena saying she does have some comparision but she feels shy about sharing it.

la aurora 19-05-2007 13:37

crazy malchik
this is for you personally :D

Na Polchasa
Leto nachalos gde-to
Parohod

That's for your 'can other girls sing?' question. You can decide yourself. This is Marina singing.

Lena:
Mama Mia
Begi

crazy malchik 19-05-2007 15:50

OMG, OMG, OMG, I'm so happy. la aurora, you're my angel! :D :love: :kwink:

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I'm so ashamed... You did so many things for me, and I did nothing for you... :(

Talyubittu 19-05-2007 19:02

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Originally Posted by la aurora (Post 353250)
crazy malchik
this is for you personally :D

Na Polchasa
Leto nachalos gde-to
Parohod

That's for your 'can other girls sing?' question. You can decide yourself. This is Marina singing.

Lena:
Mama Mia
Begi

ohh! Monokini has a good song called Begi too!

= Thanks for the information above as well, it's nice to hear about how it's like in your country personally from someone who's actually FROM there, rather than just reading up on it.

I can't wait for their album! Maybe they'll visit Eurovision again in the near future?

thegurgi 19-05-2007 19:07

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Originally Posted by la aurora (Post 353250)
Begi

is this the song "dalshe vseh" from fabrika zvezd 2 or a different one? i know it's sometimes referred to as begi as well... i don't want to waste my bandwidth on a song i already have

Argos 19-05-2007 19:13

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Originally Posted by thegurgi (Post 353296)
is this the song "dalshe vseh" from fabrika zvezd 2 or a different one? i know it's sometimes referred to as begi as well... i don't want to waste my bandwidth on a song i already have

It's the same.

crazy malchik 19-05-2007 19:14

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Originally Posted by Talyubittu (Post 353293)
Maybe they'll visit Eurovision again in the near future?

I'm bad at Russian, but I think the girls said that they don't want to appear on ESC anymore. Wait... I'll quote it, maybe I'm not right! ;)

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УШ. Ну, если было бы 1-ое место, вернулись бы. Но это еще впереди. Или 2 раза не выпускают на Евровидение?

СЕР. - Нет, ну это как-то глупо. Вот Дима Билан в этом году очень хотел поехать. Хотел, хотел и перехотел.

УШ. - А почему не поехал?

СЕР. - Ну, это глупо мне кажется.
What about are they talking about? I think they're talking about... Hm, this guy is asking them would they appear on ESC 2 times, and they say no, because it's stupid. And also they say that Dima Bilan also wanted to go this year, I believe. He wanted, wanted and over wanted... And the guys asks them why didn't he go, and one of the girls, I believe it's Lena answers "It's stupid for me to say".

Were I right? :gigi: Lolz! :laugh:

thegurgi 19-05-2007 19:44

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Originally Posted by Argos (Post 353299)
It's the same.

thanks for the info, saved me a whole ... what? 3mb, haha... it's a good song though i think the vocals in the chorus can be a bit... i dunno, pitchy? haha. But the synth is rocking... it makes me wonder what the furthur sound of Serebro will be.

la aurora 19-05-2007 22:14

lol Greg, I remember seeing Lena training this chorus with one of the 'teachers', was quite a hysterical moment actually as she convinced herself she couldn't hit 'iiiiii' together with 'beg'. Looked like 'a shrink and his patient' scene with some even higher pitch desperation sounds lol The sound in this one is quite typical for Fadeev but I have really no idea what he goes for when it comes to this project.

crazy malchik,
last line is 'Well it's stupid, I think' ;)
Mmm.. *tries to remember what they said about it before* I guess their idea is that doing it 2 years in a row is stupid :D But if things go well for them they may consider going again somewhere later in the future to have some fun and win the thing.
Doubt this will happen, really.

Argos 19-05-2007 22:47

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Originally Posted by la aurora (Post 353336)
The sound in this one is quite typical for Fadeev but I have really no idea what he goes for when it comes to this project.

If I compare the various projects of Fadeev, I have difficulties to find the typical Fadeev-sound. It looks as if he understands to find the sound, which suits best for his artist.

In the case of Serebro I would say,Temnikova is the 'character' of the project. I have never understood, why he needs that blondie (thanks for the links to her songs as proof for her very average talent) and this failed governess, who quite unsuccessfully try to catch up with Lena. If she is not good enough on her own, these two additions don't look as a big gain.

Well, I am curious too, which sound he got for her (and the appendices :rolleyes: ).

thegurgi 20-05-2007 02:52

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Originally Posted by Argos (Post 353342)
very average talent

quite average, but i quite like "na polchasa"... val, do you know who wrote it? (to me, the lyrics are very cute... hahaha, i understand most of it... which is sweet)

And yes, it's hard to find a similarity between Linda and Glukoza, or Savicheva and Monokini or Total... he's an amazing producer and song writer (a... по моему..haha) so i'm really looking forward to this new project

haku 20-05-2007 03:21

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Originally Posted by la aurora (Post 353126)
here's the proper list with links to all songs

It's a great idea to make so many versions, they should do that for all their songs, lol. I didn't like the ESC version but i do like the Yellow version, sounds like Cascada, it would surely work well in North/Central/Western Europe, i also like the White one and the Vinous one. The Grey Timbaland-like one is probably not the right direction for them, haha, i don't think that Russian girls can convincingly play hip-hop bitches.

They have good potential, with a good album, the right choice of "color version", hot videos and proper promotion, they could be the Russian girlband that replaces Tatu in European charts.

crazy malchik 20-05-2007 12:06

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why he needs that blondie (thanks for the links to her songs as proof for her very average talent)
Funny. I also think that Yulia from Tatu has average talent. She's nothing special. Of course, she is for us, but I mean... she has that rough voice, it's not so rough but... You know. But cuz we love Tatu, we don't pay attention. I acctually love Yulia's voice, but live. Marina is like you've said average singer, but in my opinion, Yulia's not better than her.

Argos 20-05-2007 16:39

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Originally Posted by crazy malchik (Post 353438)
Funny. I also think that Yulia from Tatu has average talent. She's nothing special.... Marina is like you've said average singer, but in my opinion, Yulia's not better than her.

Actually I'm not talking about singing skills. The best music I've ever heard, was sung by people, who are not really good singers. It's the way they are present, they express themselves, how they make you feel the song, and if I hear Marina, it's simply flat. Yulya has a weak singing technique, but she gives every song 'character', even those, which she doesn't like. That's the difference between artistical talent and 'plain cooking'.

la aurora 21-05-2007 00:02

Argos,
mmm let me try to define what 'Fadeev-style' is.
I'd say he's not really much of composer, first of all. You don't really see him writing complicated rememberable melodies with key-change. He usually goes for something quite simple and does his magic with arrangement and presentation. Even his pop catchy songs are based mostly on juicy beats and repetition rather than on melody. This was the case with his famous Jagga-jagga and it actually true for Song 1 too.
His style is pretty moody, mysterious and somewhat cold. He delivers quality material that puts you into some mood and his songs are easier to understand with your brain than with your heart. Hard to explain really but I hope you get what I mean.
His songs almost always have some beat going on, often quite dark and melancholic. He also doesn't mind mixing in a bit of oriental influence in music and image of the artist. That was the case with his Linda, Total or his own stuff. Something like Sky-Blue version of Song 1.
He doesn't really go for good vocalists in classic sense. Most of his songs have quite a calm almost melody-free versus and simple melody in the chorus, often quite screamed rather than sang (not tatu-like, softer usually).
Of course it's not the same for all his artists. He's a smart producer after all, almost mathematically smart. He knows all about music formats and how to deliever what audience will buy. He doesn't like cheap scandals our stars love so much. His weapon is 'hooks'. He's a master of those.
Well, probably it will be easier to get with proper example. I mean, who can be more 'Fadeev-ish' that Fadeev writing for himself :D
YouTube: Maxim Fadeev - Leti za mnoy or mp3
love the song btw ^.^

When it comes to 'appendices', I really wouldn't be so harsh ;)
First of all those 3 songs I posted were all I could find on Marina but they were never meant to be original. It was a soundtrack to a soap opera about young girl from province that comes to conquire the world of show-business. Those songs were written specially for the show, not for the band Formula Marina was in and she couldn't be really special even if she wanted. There was a number of singers doing tracks for tha main character and they had to sound similar enough, meaning 'average'.
Fadeev doesn't really look for artists. He makes them of people matching him on personal level, being close enough to his personal waves, so he can work with them.
Temnikova was pretty bright from the beginning but not in the right way. She was jumping from reserved self-hating state to super hyper and loud one. Fadeev always saw great potential in her and sympathized her on personal level but she was getting heavy bashing on every commision they had. He did a lot of work trying to turn an absolutely childish and uncontrolable village girl into a classy urban young lady. Result really shows even if she loses it still from time to time lol I bet these 2 girls are coming through something like that as well now. Temnikova had an early start when it comes to this and she has enough experience to be in the center of attention while other 2 don't. It's still pretty much 'work in the progress' as they had to go on air almost a year earlier than planned.
Yes of course Lena could go solo but who needs just another solo female singer, we have loads of such here. Max wants a product that sells. It seems the idea was 3 anime-looking girls in modest cover but with a lot of sex inside working on professional level that's rare here. Max still experiemnts a lot with them and I'm curious what comes out in the end. Temnikova looks, behaves and sings differently now. I bet other 2 girls will too with time and their role will become more important. I believe Lena will remain the leader tho as it's just hard to over-shine her and the project was made for her in the first place but I believe it'll get less obvious.

Greg,
I really doubt names will be any familar for you. Soundtrack for this show was composed by Skripkin. There's a list of authors for all songs on the site but it seems down at the moment :( Anyway, I don't remember seeing any name I knew there.

thegurgi 21-05-2007 01:37

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Originally Posted by la aurora (Post 353693)
was composed by Skripkin. There

thanks, while the website didn't work it was enough info for me to find the lyrics and see how correct or wrong i was... and i was surprisingly rather on with this song (the lyrics are rather staccatto, so they're easier for me to understand i guess). but thanks again, it's such a simple song but i really like it haha.


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