"Tatu in Podnebesnaya". Releases from 31.01.04 and 01.02.04. [aka Eps. 5 & 6]
 

We discuss "Tatu in Podnebesnaya" episodes 5 and 6 in this thread. Stay on topic, please. :heh:

Here is something Veter posted on the Russian forum about the 5th episode:

There is some progress - they were recording a song. Lena seemed to try, but Julia just tried a little and left. Said that she is not in the mood, and that her voice is down. Then they showed how the doctor examined her and said she shouldn't sing for 7 days. Also, Vanya tried to make Julia scream a little, but he refused. Then he tried to ask Lena, but you know that she can't scream like Julia does.

Thanks, Veter.

Translated by ME.

Edit: fixed a typo.

problem is that I really can't get myself to discuss something I haven't even seen :(

Thank you for the translation though :rose:

This is really funny. Supposedly, Yulia answered in the chat that there are no problems with her voice. But then on the reality-show she can't sing for 7 days, can't scream... She still has the same problems with her voice.

staringelf, Julia has been having problems for a year now. I don't see how 7 days can make any difference. And I am pretty sure that the album is not going to be relesed in March as they planned. I don't see why they set a release date anyway, it's not like it'll live up to it's title of the "release date". It'll be at best just another day with a scandal from Tatu. :grustno:

I dunno, now I think I'll even settle for Katya Nachaeva comming in to sing for Julia. Julia can just open her mouth on the concerts...

Haha, well, I guess "Yulia" wasn't being quite honest with us :p

I feel sorry for her, but it doesn't really matter if they can't record for another seven days, they probably wouldn't have done any work anyway :bebebe:

Thank you Kate for bringing us all these translations.. I love you :rose:

well she sounded hoarse..honestly I think she just has the average cold..the cotton wool in her ear implies that too..Im happy someone beside me does that when they have a cold :D
so I think that its not *those* throat problems again..but it would be unwise for anyone to sing while having a cold..especially for someone who already had problems before

thanks for the translation!

We don't have a clue when the stuff being aired was filmed.

Rob, I think it was filmed sometime in the past 3 weeks. If they don't have "voice problems" or whatever other excuse they use, then why would they show us the film footage of them unsuccessfully trying to record? Wierd.

Plus, it's a "reality show", so we have to assume it was filmed recently, unless we are told otherwise.

I personally think that in the best case scenario, we'll see the album towards the end of the year...

P.S. Queenie, I love you, too. :rose: :lady: :D

katbeidar, Your suggestion can be wrong as we don't have any evidence.

This RS is a lot but it's far away from being "real" and same goes for the time-line.

Rob, I wonder whose fault that is?

*points at Shapovalov*

I think this was recorded recently.. because I really don't expect Tatu to record something when it's not necessary! And yes, they say they have been working on the album for a long time, but I really don't think they're telling the truth. When they were "recording the album" I think they settled for scandals.. I really don't think they were recording (back then) since they probably didn't find it important...

Why "fault" - The original concept turned out differently than expected - nothing wrong with that. Time will tell. :cool:

"The little forum of doom" - business as usual, I see.

Instead of wishing Yulia good health, and being happy that studio work was shown (didn't people whine and yammer for that before?), more negativity. Well well well.

At least, dear people, wait till you've seen the episode or at least wait till you get a detailed summary of what happened, before you do your usual little tATu dance of doom. Frankly it's getting to be a bit tedious.

xena225

Katbeidar, thanks for the translation. :rose:

But could this thread be only about Episode 5? I think we should have another thread for Episode 6 tomorrow, otherwise we're going to discuss two different subjects at the same time and it's going to be really confusing. :) Just my opinion.

xena225, well I thought you would have gotten used to us by now, but yet you still show up telling us how bad we are about expressing our opinions. :P No, I'm just kidding :rose: But WHY should we wait until we see the episode ourselves? We haven't seen the others except 1. And besides, it's really fun to speculate. And sure, we can't comment on what we haven't seen, but people who saw it actually told us what happened (and Kate was nice enough to translate that for us :rose: ) It wasn't detailed, but it was something and we appreciate it and have fun speculating. Yes, we sound negative alot, but it's hard not to be negative about Tatu these days. Most of the time it has been scandals, scandals and even more scandals..

QueenBee, tATu ist the way tATu is. They didn't ask you to stay with them, you chose them.

Rob, yes of course I did, but no matter how much I like someone I am actually allowed to dislike something that has to do with this person. (Tatu). And it's not like I'm dying without new material, I am just saying it would be nice if they actually gave us some.

qb, I'm still hoping to see the episodes myself. Not that I will understand a word at all, but it will still be easier to discuss something when one has actually seen the thing. One of the other reasons I don't really post a lot in the tatu part anymore. Well, the non-picture section at least.

TLFdk, we're all hoping to see them.. :P I just wanna see the girls, doesn't really matter if I understand anything or not. :P But Kate has put so much work into translating for us, so I am having a little fun speculating about the translations.

I love this nickname for our forum! :love:

*does the little dance of doom* Ooo-ga-ga Boo-ga-ga!

:gigi:

I think you're right haku

qb, I know you are :heh:
*forgot point to post*
errhhhmmmm, it was something about waiting and seeing, I guess..

haku, yeah, 'bout that. If there was something to discuss I would have made two threads. But it's all the same. Plus, Igor made only one thread for the two episodes in the Russian forum, so I followed his example.

Let's wait what news we'll have on the second episode this week and the decide, ok? For all we know, they might show the "Anatomy" again. :rolleyes:

Aaah, bad-memory-people unite! *Starts club*

Hahahaha, Kate, you crack me up! :laugh:

Anyway, to get on-topic... erm.. :ithink:

lol.. in that line you managed to put down my exact point. There is no way we are able to discuss something we haven't seen. This discussion could have (and has as far as I remember) taken place at any time. Only difference is that this time it has been in a show most haven't seen :rolleyes:

Don't get me wrong I appreciate the translations :rose: Problem is that I won't discuss it I guess..

edit: fixed typo

I think the topic is pretty obvious here: In this episode Tatu started to record the album, but failed, since Julia's voice problems returned.

What difference does it make if you actually saw it? I just don't understand...

Edit: fixed some technicalities...

Well.. for a start:
This problem I think we all talked about before this episode. The new thing in this case is that it aired in the reality show.
The difference to if I actually saw it or not, would be that I could comment about something new besides Yul having a voice problem and the record not going anywhere for now.

I take it, it's just me being fed up with the same old topics? :dknow:

TLFdk, I think we all are. But I'm pretty sure there was nothing interesting in the ep, otherwise Veter would have mentioned it. And discussing minor things, like Julia's sneeze and cough, is getting old, too...

Basically, unless they release a new album, we are stuck here with the old topics... :D

yeah, scary thought really :none:
I really hope tomorrows episode will be about something new and not go back to lacking material. Then again.. I will have less to discuss about I guess.

Well, thank you for that post, because it shows how difficult it is to draw conclusions if you haven't seen the episode in question, if, in fact, you haven't even read a detailed report, because someone on a Russian forum wrote that Lena did sing and that she sang beautifully. So you say: They failed to record the album, while others say Lena sang beautifully. Contradicting points of view, no? Oh, and couldn't Yulia just have a bad cold? Why are you so sure her voice problems have returned? It's possible, but we don't know yet, do we?

So, in short: The difference it makes if you've seen it, katbeidar, would be to know what actually happened.

No, QueenBee, to some it's obviously incredibly hard to be positive about tATu, no matter what they do. Everything gets distorted and interpreted in the most negative way. It's almost like a reflex. (And I'm not talking about constructive criticism here.)

I don't mean to tell anyone what to think - but if you try and leave behind the negativity once in a while, you may find that there are a lot of positive things to be enjoyed about tATu. :)

xena225

xena225, having a bad cold can arise voice problems. I didn't say what kind of voice problems in my post, did I? It doesn't metter what kind, the fact remains: the album can't be recorded for the time being.

I said that they failed to record the album this time. I didn't say they failed to record it all together. And I am sure Lena sang beatifully... I always admired her voice.

Please, don't interpret all that I say in a negative way. There are positive things about me, too.

A Russian should set up a web cam in front of a TV set....... :)

But anyway, yea I'd like to hear what they are recording and get a feel for what may be on the album even though they "failed" at this session. It's strange, but I don't seem to mind TATU not doing what's expected. It would be great if a new album was in stores now, but to see the girl(s) be lazy about recording and then release an album in the future adds a little more to the "full package".

Also, it's simple psychology, when we finally get the album, we love it that much more, regardless of how "negative" our views are presently.

Right now, the only things I enjoy are Lena's new sexy pictures ( :love: ) and their old songs - although I've listened to them a million times, but still :gigi:

The rest is pure chaos and ridiculous situations

Quite the contrary, this forum is really open to discussions and anyone can express their opinions freely, good or bad.
And here no one is going to quote and italicize your post just to state that what you said is only your opinion... duh! :rolleyes:

they don't have to be together all the time to record songs.. its not necessary ..Lena can record first and then later add Yulia's voice..

Need to see the Lena singing part if it looks like successful. They as probably didn't show everything .. just the 'problem' part.. you know.. OR maybe they did show the positive part ..but the negative part already blocking our head.. like Yulia cannot scream... but they sang LIVE in Tokyo Dome.

Off topic:

Then Yulia .. awww..get well soon baby girl.. you'll be 19 ..in umm.. 20 days.... and I am here :kwink: .. for you .. :rose: with love and tender.

I'd love to think that Yulia's vocal problems were due to a cold...but I really don't. I listened to her singing Nichya in that brief pirate clip of the Tokyo concert and I really felt badly for her - unless it really was a question of poor sound quality. I was astonished at how well Yulia sang at Eurovision (I had expected her to be the weak-link vocally) but on reflection I think it was reckless.

Going back to the scene in the documentary where Yulia's vocal problems are discussed, I found it fascinating how, although Shapovalov says he will respect Yulia's decision whatever it is, it seems to me that he makes it very clear what he thinks she should do - with his remark about the artist being a kind of hero etc. and I do think the problem with Tatu as it stands, is that the two girls are still really, no more than actors in a film that he's directing. I genuinely think the girls are shrewd and intelligent regarding their careers and now could be the optimum time to say "Thanks, Ivan, for everything you've done for us, but now it's time to move on".

BTW Please feel free to disagree with me. I hate the way this forum seems to be becoming increasingly polarised, with sides being drawn and the hostility building. We're discussing stuff here - it's a debate, and there's room for everyone's opinions. Just because somebody disagrees with me, it doesn't mean that I don't like and respect them.

I wish you ALL love!

transcend, I was in Tokyo and Yulia did sound fine on both days.

I'm glad to hear that Rob.

katbeidar, Rob, don't even start, okay?


1. The album won't be released in March. Too little time now. If anyone is familiar with this industry, would agree that if the release is scheduled on March, normally the artist has double number of songs already RECORDED, those would be chosen from for the disc. Let's say about 20, to choose from.

2. The throat is a sensitive part - if it hurts, so it does. Yulia has some problems and it's better to wait 7 days than to say good bye to the voice for a couple of months.

3. They tried to record the song - so be happy!

Kisses to everyone! :rose:


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Re: "Tatu in Podnebesnaya". Releases from 31.01.04 and 01.02.04. [aka Eps. 5 & 6]
 

Yul sure seems to be so "not in the mood" with an attitude lately. I know she has throat problems but here is an example where they could have made progress and she just walks out. She needs to focus instead of spending so much time showing everyone her "attitude". It seems to me that Ivan may be trying to at least get the team centered around the album and it looks like Yul has a problem for the next 7 days. I would spend the next seven days letting Lena work on her part of the performance. There is no reason they can't break the singing parts in two performances. Get rid of the angst and get something done. Someone needs to be able to take a position of authority with Yul and let her save her attitude for another photo session. What a waste of energy.

My assessment: Lena looks ready to go and has the right mindset. Yul has some issues. Sorry that doesn't sound positive but it sure looks bad for the album schedule if this keeps up.