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nasnedagoniat 27-11-2003 16:06

The New Tatu Show... Tatu[Dot]Ru Back Online!
 
Tatu's official website is back online! ******** It hasn't really changed, at least not yet. The only thing that's different is the news and the stuff about the reality show. They explain more about the new tatu reality show. It also has news about a concert on Dec. 18 in St. Petersburg, Russia if that wasn't already common knowledge. Hopefully one of the Russian/English speaking forum members can fill us in.

xena225 27-11-2003 16:31

nasnedagoniat, very cool, thanks for letting us know!

I tried to read the Reality Show info with help of Babelfish, and wow! it sounds really interesting! And brave, if I may say so, letting the whole world watch the creative process in such detail... But good for us, I guess. :cool:

There's also more info on the Tokyo Dome concerts, and I SO WANNA BE THERE! :yes: If I read it correctly, a DVD/video of the highlights will be released after the World Tour concerts?!

And wow... The St. Petersburg concert hall can house 30,000 people... Another big event coming up, I guess. :done:

It's really great to read all that. :)

xena225

forre 28-11-2003 02:01

nasnedagoniat, Thank you! Had to change the title of the thread though because the show will be on soon. I hope it's okay.

More:

Reality Show with t.A.T.u.
Group t.A.T.u. starts to work with their new album in the beginning of December. Ivan Shapovalov announced earlier this year that the process of recording would be turned into a reality show. A few cameras will be set on around the clock in the studio Sky Room which is located on the 13th floor of the Pekin Hotel in Moscow. Several TV channels will broadcast the sessions simultaneously. The main peculiarity of the album is that the songs written by absolutely unknown to public songwriters. Anyone can become a songwriter on the condition that this person is able to create a world hit.

During this reality show the singers of t.A.T.u. together with their producer will be evaluating and choosing the best compositions sent to them. You may contribute with a composition to the address: Ivan Shapovalov/t.A.T.u., Podnebesnaya, 123001 Moscow.

The reality show will be broadcasted by CTC channel during 2004.

Source: dni.ru

nasnedagoniat 28-11-2003 02:35

Fantastic! I want to write for Tatu. I hope it's open to the world.

cirrus 28-11-2003 03:12

they don't cease to amaze me. I like writing/making music, and the idea that they could accept my song and use it is unbelievable.

...and it sounds like they've run out of ideas and now it's up to the people. oh well. i think it sounds neat. :)

elf 28-11-2003 04:08

On the official website, they also mention that the cameras will support online streaming and everybody in the world will be able to see t.A.T.u. live!!! :yes: Unlike any other author, t.A.T.u. are willing to show the whole process of their album creation to the whole world :)

xena225 28-11-2003 04:30

Quote:

Originally posted by elf
On the official website, they also mention that the cameras will support online streaming and everybody in the world will be able to see t.A.T.u. live!!! :yes: Unlike any other author, t.A.T.u. are willing to show the whole process of their album creation to the whole world :)
Oh goodie. I'll spend even more time online. Great. *grins* :cool:

If anyone could translate the info on the official site, it would be very much appreciated... The info there is much more detailed. Thank you! :)

http://rus.tatu .ru/index.phtml?id=863
[leave out the blank space between "tatu" and ".ru" to see the website address]

:rose:

xena225

Lux 28-11-2003 05:56

this is interesting. thanks nasnedogoniat

seems like ivan is getting the most out of the process, no? the girls are filming themselves and literally themselves, filming during the recording process, what else what else
using almost every facet to create more media coverage for tatu. ingenius. :D

Pop! 28-11-2003 06:47

i hope the footage is eventually made into a DVD

elf 28-11-2003 07:09

Quote:

Originally posted by xena225
If anyone could translate the info on the official site, it would be very much appreciated... The info there is much more detailed. Thank you! :)

I'll try to translate it tomorrow, xena :)

Tom Violence 28-11-2003 10:45

This may even be worth buying a television for.

Lena410 28-11-2003 14:18

wow! this sounds great..I would love to write for tatu..*sigh*
:D yipee..I'm so looking forward to this show :p

raven ryuu 28-11-2003 14:36

Dear Lord...I hope I get to see this! Let me be the first to make a request to our Russian members -- can someone please vidcap this for those who cannot watch Russian TV? *pretty please, with whip cream on top* :rose:

I think it's cool that t.A.T.u. aren't afraid to show their album-making process to the world :done: I can see it now -- Lena and Yulia, in the studio, with large headphones on, standing in front of recording mics... *keeps dreaming* :D

irish22 28-11-2003 23:01

cool i hope when they show it ppl will cap the show for us so we can see and i love there idea of letting ppl send in songs i may send in one of my peoms all though it isn't up to snuff lol.

Kate 29-11-2003 00:28

More Insight

Rumor has it that Shapovalov got the idea of making this reality show to earn enough money to release Tatu's next album, since he blew all Tatu's savings on his other projects: "7B" and Katya Nechaeva, as well as had a huge fight with Universal about the constant delays of the new album release date.

nasnedagoniat 29-11-2003 02:10

That's exactly what I was thinking, since the producers now-a-days control all of the money an artist makes. :rolleyes:It was so much better when the record company actually recieved the money from album sales and distributed it to everyone who had something to do with the project, the little that they did distribute after all of the expenses were paid. :ithink:

elf 29-11-2003 09:14

Here is my promised translation of the official news article. Suprisingly it ommits a few detail mentioned by dni.ru. Anyway, enjoy :)
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t.A.T.u.: Reality Show - official news from www.tatu.ru

The recording of the new t.A.T.u. album as a reality show.
Lena Katina, Yulia Volkova and their producer Ivan Shapovalov will be working on their second album in "Podnebesnaya" (Under-the-sky). This new and now permanent residence of "Neformat" is a specially equipped 13th floor of "Peking" hotel in the center of Moscow. Apart from the cutting edge musical and recording equipment, the place will be equipped with online streaming cameras, which will allow millions of viewers to observe everything that takes place in “Podnebesnaya” in real time mode. Moreover, 4 cameras will be placed outside facing North, West, East, and South. It has been arranged with the channel transmitting the show that live 45 minute broadcasts will take place up to the release date of the album. Thus, the process of recording of the new t.A.T.u. album will become a series of live TV programs unified by a single idea. Up to now, there has not been a single musician who would willingly show the whole process of song creation, not to mention the private moments related to it, to the world. The viewers will have a chance to get familiar with the new songs long before the release date of the album. As a rule, the artistic process is hidden from other up to the release of a finished product. Recording their new album, t.A.T.u. will do exactly the opposite. You may witness their artistic crisis or inspirations, and, maybe, you will find out something incredible about the lives of the girls by simply observing what they do on their own, for example… The main peculiarities are the artistic process, the unpredictability and the absence of any script! The viewers will see Lena Katina and Yulia Volkova just as they are. Up to now, all the information about the girls has always been delivered through the third parties: tv programs, photo sessions, interviews, etc. Now it will be a direct contact – one on one with the audience. They will certainly know that they are being watched – but now always when. The two girls are ready to show practically every aspect of their artistic lives, inner world, and relationships with others. This is yet another attempt to see love, yet another attempt to show it.

elf 29-11-2003 09:19

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since he blew all Tatu's savings on his other projects: "7B" and Katya Nechaeva
Hehe, doesn't sound very realistic considering how many albums they've sold. He would probably be able to start up 200 t.A.T.u.'s and still have some money left. Oh well , if you trust all the rumors, then I suppose Lena is 9 month pregnant now :p

nasnedagoniat 29-11-2003 15:48

Thanks very much elf. Sounds like it will be a great show. I feel nervous for the girls though. I've never really seen a live and unedited "making the album" type show. It sounds scary and exciting at the same time.

forre 29-11-2003 16:52

The reality show is certainly a cool idea but what I find worth of attention too is the fact that it points to further delays in the album release. First he says the material has been already recorded and now he'll be choosing the compositions! Okay, let's say they'll be choosing and choosing and then recording and then mixing and mastering and then the record company needs some time to produce the CD .... So when are we going to hear the Russian version? Just make a wild guess who dares because I don't. That's a little bit confusing.

spyretto 29-11-2003 23:52

Their future is not really that great if they're hoping that the fans will come up with the material for the next album. What an embarassment :bebebe:

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Rumor has it that Shapovalov got the idea of making this reality show to earn enough money to release Tatu's next album, since he blew all Tatu's savings on his other projects: "7B" and Katya Nechaeva, as well as had a huge fight with Universal about the constant delays of the new album release date.
Well, at least he's trying to do something. I think that effectively, the international career of Tatu is certainly over..now they're trying to earn as much money as possible out of their last grains of popularity.

Although...in Russia things may be different , I have a feeling that Tatu will concentate their careers there. For how long, I don't know, I'm not familiar with how Russian showbusiness works.
That's what I think and I'm not saying so because I don't like Tatu. I'm a fan of the album and the girls. But things are becoming clearer now..that "Nichya" song is a desperate attempt to capture some of their former glory to no avail. Tatu are almost finished internationally and will take a miracle to have another hit. As for Japan, well, their popularity will wear out sooner or later. Without new material there's no future for Tatu. No matter how many stunts Shapovalov pulls.

There was always that possibility...I don't know how they came up with the first album anyway, may have been one brilliant moment that happens once in a lifetime. But Tatu as a musical band - not as a project - is a complete joke. They're virtually non-existent.
Great project, not much left as ideas are running out, I'm afraid.

I can't see how things can kickstart, I really can't. :( Here, Tatu are treated as part of history, already.

nasnedagoniat 30-11-2003 00:59

Well, what exactly was Nichya, besides a failed attempt. Where did it come from? Just like forre, I'm confused. Several people from Tatu camp said that the album was nearing completion and now this. What happened to those songs? What happened to the songs produced by Mars Lasar? There's proof that he produced a few tracks on the infamous 2nd album. Unless he is also a liar.

The only logical sense that can be made out of this, happens to be very illogical. A surprise! Tatu will release two Russian albums instead of one. The first album will have the songs that were said to be complete, and the second will have the songs from the reality show. More money for Ivan, more entertainment for us. Another scenario is that the reality show is not going to be that real. The songs are already chosen and recorded and Tatu will only act as if they are choosing and recording songs. Making all of us view the songs as something they are not.:ithink:

xena225 30-11-2003 01:30

Quote:

Originally posted by elf
[tatu. ru:] The viewers will see Lena Katina and Yulia Volkova just as they are. Up to now, all the information about the girls has always been delivered through the third parties: tv programs, photo sessions, interviews, etc. Now it will be a direct contact – one on one with the audience.
elf, thank you for the translation! Sounds exciting, and if it really can be watched online, I'll definitely be there. :)

Quote:

Originally posted by forre
[dni.ru:] The main peculiarity of the album is that the songs written by absolutely unknown to public songwriters. Anyone can become a songwriter on the condition that this person is able to create a world hit. During this reality show the singers of t.A.T.u. together with their producer will be evaluating and choosing the best compositions sent to them.
I wonder where exactly this info originates from? I couldn't find it on the Tatu. Ru website. There is nothing in the News Section about it anyway. :dknow:

xena225

spyretto 30-11-2003 04:50

two albums??? :hmmm: :bum:

Interesting idea but I smell failed "publicity stunt" again. A reality show based on Tatu's recording of their second album? Oh yes, it's a soap opera indeed. One year in the making and they haven't even started yet ;)

Lux 30-11-2003 07:18

if all goes as said, we'll get too see alot more


i wonder if we'll see if they've got anything to hide after all
this is very exciting, corresponds with posing nude very much.

spyretto 30-11-2003 07:30

you like it eh ? :D
Tatu the mobile soap opera. They're an opera anyway, why not open up to the public and make some more bucks?

something like the Osbournes a la Tatu. It can be a big hit with MTV russkie ;)

elf 01-12-2003 01:57

Quote:

I wonder where exactly this info originates from? I couldn't find it on the Tatu. Ru website. There is nothing in the News Section about it anyway. :dknow:

That's what I was thinking too. This info has not been officially confirmed and the only sourse of infromation comes from the infamous "Lena-pregnant" dni.ru :) Maybe they simply read the official website and let their imagination fill in the gaps :rolleyes:

cirrus 01-12-2003 02:11

Quote:

Originally posted by nasnedagoniat
Another scenario is that the reality show is not going to be that real. The songs are already chosen and recorded and Tatu will only act as if they are choosing and recording songs.
Good point. The recording process has been really annoying. First it's "we are working on it" then "the songs are written but not recorded" then "we are writing the songs now" to "ummmm.... TV show!!!" I don't get it.

Quote:

The only logical sense that can be made out of this, happens to be very illogical.
Ivan and his genius ways. All of Tatu's mistakes have painted them into a corner. They have to work hard if they want to keep up. No new music = no future

I think the TV show is a great idea... if it had been done a year ago.

spyretto 01-12-2003 20:38

Quote:

That's what I was thinking too. This info has not been officially confirmed and the only sourse of infromation comes from the infamous "Lena-pregnant" dni.ru Maybe they simply read the official website and let their imagination fill in the gaps
elf it's also on their official website, tatu. ru
although, the "bridge" march and Rammstein were also on the official website. So dni.ru and tatu. ru are equally reliable sources :gigi:

xena225 01-12-2003 21:01

Quote:

Originally posted by spyretto
elf it's also on their official website, tatu. ru
Could you please post the link to this specific info on tatu. ru ?
I checked the site and couldn't find it.

It's this part of the dni.ru article I couldn't find on tatu. ru: "During this reality show the singers of t.A.T.u. together with their producer will be evaluating and choosing the best compositions sent to them. You may contribute with a composition to the address:..."

Thanks.

By the way, nowhere in the dni.ru article does it say that the songs for the album haven't been chosen yet. The dni.ru article only claims that everyone can send in a composition and that they'd be choosing and evaluating the best one/ones during the reality show. Nowhere does it say that they will be recording this song/these songs for this album. But who knows? Maybe someone sends in a real gem of a song, and they do decide to record it. Who knows? ;)

xena225

spyretto 01-12-2003 21:18

Their English section of their site is down or not working at all.


But in the Russian page of their site you find this text,

which, by the use of a dodgy translator, translates like that:


. A.T.u.: realiti-show
Record of a new album t. A.T.u. in a format of realiti-show. Lena Katin, JUlja Volkova and the producer of group Ivan Shapovalov will work above
The second album in Celestial - new and constant residence Neformata - specially equipped 13-th floor of hotel Peking in the center of Moscow. Besides the advanced musical equipment, in Celestial chambers online of an announcement that will allow millions televiewers to observe in a mode a ril-time of all Further will be established

xena225 01-12-2003 21:22

Quote:

Originally posted by spyretto
But in the Russian page of their site you find this text,
. A.T.u.: realiti-show
Record of a new album t. A.T.u. in a format of realiti-show. Lena Katin, JUlja Volkova and the producer of group Ivan Shapovalov will work above
The second album in Celestial - new and constant residence Neformata - specially equipped 13-th floor of hotel Peking in the center of Moscow. Besides the advanced musical equipment, in Celestial chambers online of an announcement that will allow millions televiewers to observe in a mode a ril-time of all Further will be established

spyretto, elf already translated this page (and the more extensive info on the next page as well). His translation is on page 1 of this thread. But where does it say that people can send in compositions which will be chosen and evaluated during the reality show? dni.ru added this info, but it's not on tatu. ru - that was my question. :)

xena225

spyretto 01-12-2003 21:26

Then why did you ask where is the article? I think that particular info - about picking the best songs and including them in the album - exists somewhere, maybe on this site.

Well, this is what tatysite.net writes but doesn't it imply that you can be the songwriter of the next Tatu hit?


Quote:

t.A.T.u. starts to work with their new album in the beginning of December. Ivan Shapovalov announced earlier this year that the process of recording would be turned into a reality show. A few cameras will be set on around the clock in the studio Sky Room which is located on the 13th floor of the Pekin Hotel in Moscow. Several TV channels will broadcast the sessions simultaneously. The main peculiarity of the album is that the songs are written by absolutely unknown songwriters. Anyone can become a songwriter on the condition that this person is able to create a world hit.

During this reality show the singers of t.A.T.u., together with their producer, will be evaluating and choosing the best compositions sent to them. You may contribute with a composition to the address: Ivan Shapovalov/t.A.T.u., Podnebesnaya, 123001 Moscow.
Well, what can I say, ask forre. Or you can check all the Russian sites to see where Vanya put that advert :)

xena225 01-12-2003 21:38

Quote:

Originally posted by spyretto
Then why did you ask where is the article?
I think it was a misunderstanding. When elf wrote: "This info has not been officially confirmed and the only sourse of infromation comes from the infamous "Lena-pregnant" dni.ru", he was actually replying to my question where the specific dni.ru info that people can send in compositions which will be chosen and evaluated by Ivan, Lena and Yulia during the reality show came from. Apparently it's not on tatu. ru, so where does the info come from? That's all I was asking. :)

Some here were also implying - because of that dni.ru info - that possibly the songs for the album haven't been chosen yet. In my opinion the article doesn't say so at all, but that's another discussion. *shrugs* :)

xena225

spyretto 01-12-2003 21:48

yes, I think I didn't get you...but what do you think about that?

It reads as if it's posted by Neformat. They have the address where you can send your compositions. I don't think that dni.ru people made it from the top of their heads.

Quote:

Some here were also implying - because of that dni.ru info - that possibly the songs for the album haven't been chosen yet. In my opinion the article doesn't say so at all, but that's another discussion. *shrugs*
I haven't got the slightest clue. You may well remember Tatu's press conference at the beginning of the year where Shapovalov was saying that the album is ready, let alone that the songs were chosen...beginning of the year... :bum:

Disengage 02-12-2003 00:15

I really hope the tv show thing isn't true.

I hate reality shows.

kr0k0 02-12-2003 02:31

I was suprised too about the start recording from december, as I knew they started from november. And about this reality show I hope it will be a transmission only once per week, not every day. In this case I think it's a good idea, to know about the advances of the recording. And maybe this reality show is the price for that new equippment. The idea of sending songs to their headquarter looks as if they lack compositions, or ideas, but maybe will prove to be a good idea. Malchik-gey was made like that, as I remeber ... Ha, everyone is concerned about the future of Tatu, but looking to their 2 last songs I see they improved their music ... and one song every 6 month is a good rithm ... in 2002 didn't they released "Klouny" and "Prostye Dvizhenya" ? ... Now, because of their continuous promotional campaigns 2003 was lost, but 2004, the beginning, at least, seems to be more peacefull, so, maybe in 2-3 months we'll have that album ready.

Kate 19-12-2003 22:49

The show supposedly started on the 17th of December. No one has seen it yet. Some Russian fans have seem promos on STS (channel which will air the reality show). Also, Tatu camp are in talk whether the show will be aired on the Internet as well. Hopefully they will. :D

Nike75 19-12-2003 22:53

Quote:

Originally posted by katbeidar
The show supposedly started on the 17th of December. No one has seen it yet. Some Russian fans have seem promos on STS (channel which will air the reality show). Also, Tatu camp are in talk whether the show will be aired on the Internet as well. Hopefully they will. :D
Kate, it's the 17th of January. Read the thread one more time.

Kate 19-12-2003 23:02

Nike75, sorry. In the Russian forum Igor just said on the 17th. :p


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