Balkans - General discussion
This thread was split from another thread because it went off topic. Here you can discuss about the Balkans, its people, their culture, mentality, the way they dress, etc.
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bulgarian girls dont want to be labeled 'sluts' either .... its just the general understanding of 'sexy' is different ... what is 'slutty' standard to one, is 'sexy; standard' to others. |
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Yeah I'm afraid the Southerns ( those people in Athens mostly, who are cocooned around their own little existence ) use the word "Bulgarians" as an insult for the Northerners. It's going on for a while and has become commonplace on sports grounds. It has generated attention recently and it's going to become an issue that comes to the Greek House of Parliament. The antipathy may have something to do with that. So to be called a "Bulgarian" is synonymous to a big insult. :rolleyes: I don't understand it and I don't think it's fair either but it's only me. Quote:
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p.s. I have nothing against Greeks either, 2 of my grandparents were practically born in Greece, although they are 100% bulgarian ... until at age 10 they were KICKED out due to border changes ... maybe that's the problem - all those Balkanadian countries just have too intertwined history ... and the Balkanadians have way too much pride.. OPPA (Watching the Big FAt Greek WEdding though, it applies to BG just as good haha) |
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I think we had this conversation before, didn't we? :spy: |
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ill fix this! |
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A lady around 50 was mentioning it is like, "lady’s feel they must dress up to go for bread!" Speaking of Greece, Halliburton’s construction of the new highway and tunnel system in Greece is sure impressive. Reducing grades from 12% to 7%, increasing lanes and preserving historical sites too. I’m looking forward to driving the full length instead of partial sections. |
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It has to do with what you say as well. The Greeks see possible theats everywhere, that they'd try to claim parts of their territory eventually...Turkey with Cyprus and the sea territory...Albania with South Epirus...the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia for claiming the name and the history. So they refer to the threat of the idea of the "Big Bulgaria", probably including those territories before the border changes took place as well. But We're geting so offtop now! Haku will be understandbly so pissed off :gigi: |
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OK, what are we talking about here? People of the Balkans? Who is, who isn't? Who dresses better? Well for one thing, I can safely say that from what I saw Slovene people dress WAY better then Americans do. At least according to my tastes. Americans are too fond of baggy clothes. I like to see some curves. :p
And I still say the best dressed girls I ever saw were the ones in Belgrade. Those girls really know what to wear to look sexy. I could easily objectively say they are the best looking as well, although I must say I'm more fond of American girls in that regards (but that's just me - I LOVE cultural diversity). As for the question what nations are still considered to be balkan... that's easy. All that live on the Balkan peninsula. The real question is which of those nations have the balkan MENTALITY though. IMO I'd say those are all the slavic balkan nations, plus Albania and Romania. Greeks are a bit more... mediteranian (don't take this literaly though). |
Yeah, well me and spy were [off] again (surprise, surprise) and so this thread emerged :D
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Also agree that Americans are very beautiful, for the same fact - the diversity of all kinds of cultures/races mixing together! Quote:
Then again, is Slovenia considered part of the peninsula? Cause you guys are a bit too far up and away..... and with more West influence than, lets say... the TRUE Balkanians like Serbia, Bulgaria, and Romiania! :laugh: spy, I would think more why it might be that Greeks hate us so much, but I think we've already suggested some of the most obvious reasons.... |
Athens is like a different country compared to the rest of Greece. If you go to the north, there's a lot more of that Balkan mentality. It's because the country is very diverse in terms of the landscape, so you tend to see a lot of different lifestyles as well. So the people of Athens have a different mentality to the people of the other cities. The islanders have different mentality to the village folks and the Cretes have a different mentality to all the rest of them. It's difficult to explain though.
"The true Balkans is Serbia, Bulgaria and Romania?" Is it because they're similar slavic cultures? I can't say I understand what you mean exactly. Offtop: mentality not "metality". I'm still struck to the metal and salad. ;) |
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In the same fashion, Corfou should call themselves London cause they once used to be part of the British empire? :spy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia Just to get your facts right. I've no objection in calling themselves Macedonians but they should use another word to pronounce their genuine background, eg. Macedonian Slavs or something. They want to call themselves Macedonia, period. They even use the Pella star as their symbol. |
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... and Romanians.. who really knows where they come from. They're a kind of a mystery in Europe. They speak a langauge that is a descendant of vulgar latin which SHOULD make them romans descendants, but some theories are finding some genotype similarities with Albanians... dunno... it's all to complicated for me. I gave up in trying to figure those guys out. :p |
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Well, ok. I did some editing on my post above to reflect my real view on the subject. You did offer yours in a way. But I really think the Macedonian Republic should call themselves Slavic Macedonia or something. And they don't want to ( why? :bum: ) About the Romanians, well you're right. Their language is great, they speak a real romanised language but if they're so mixed up, I could argue they also have some Slavic blood as well. Maybe someone who does Balkan Studies can shed more light on the subject. Strangely enough this issue never came up when I was living with my Romanian ex-housemate...though we did talk about the language. I remember he was very vehement about Slavs though, calling them all sorts of names :eek: ( after watching Mihajlovic do his thing playing with Lazio, ie spitting at Beckham or something? :D ) |
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I believe in the Bulgarians .. the Balkaniada comes not just from the Slavs, but from the proto Bulgarians! (if not more) of course, the local tribe - the Thracians were also pretty BARBERIC :girl: .. so if you ask me, in the case of Bulgaria, the Slavs were actually the 'best' (or the least barberic) tribe of the 3 that made up Bulgaria in 681, even though they were the most in numbers. I will think more on how to describe/define Balkan Mentality as well... and spy, dont worry, I completely understand what you are saying, because same applys for Bulgaria as well. Sofia is Sofia, and everything outside of it .... is something else - different culture and mentality. :D Up by the Denube and Romania we have the people we call 'Vlasi' who are Romanian related, in the South West region we have the 'Macedonian' region, where people basically speak a totally different dialect (Macedonian), by the Turkish border we have 'Pomaci' who are not even Christian, but Muslim, by the Black Sea totally different region and so on ... but isnt it like that in most parts of the world, not just on the Ballkans? Ah, the Romanians .... i think we need a Romanian to come shed some Romanian light on the issue! Killa? :gigi: edit: Quote:
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IMO they're a left over of an ancient tribes (of which only Romanians and Albanians are left) that lived in the region before the slavics came and who were later romanized. About Romanians hating slavics... I heard they hate Hungarians even that much more. |
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