Mylène Farmer
For those who know her , here the new single of Mylène Farmer: "Fuck Them All" which was on the radio wesdnesday 9th of february. The full album "Avant que l'Ombre.." (Before than the Shadow...) will be released the 7th of April.
http://www.nichya.net/denial/FarmerFThemAll.mp3 :rose: for Dear Miss Denial whom I use the serveur for this song..kiss Fuck Them All La nature est changeante L'on respire comme ils mentent De façon ravageuse La nature est tueuse Nature is changing One breathes as they lie In a devastating way Nature is a killer Au temps des favorites Autant de réussite Pour l’homme, qui derrière, a Une belle qui s’affaire At the time of the favorite ones As much success For the man, who behind, has A beautiful(a woman) who busies( ?to busy) Faire de la vie un empire (… tear) Faire l’amour à Marie (… tear) Et Marie est martyre (… tear) Sur le mur nos soupirs To make life an empire To transform Life in an empire(... tear) To make love to Mary (... tear) And Mary is martyrdom (... tear) On the wall their are our sighs FUCK THEM ALL Faites l’amour, nous la guerre Nos vies à l’envers FUCK THEM ALL Faites l’amour, nous la guerre C’est nous, notre enfer FUCK THEM ALL Faites l’amour, nous la guerre Nos vies à l’envers ROCK AND SOUL Faites l’amour, dans le texte Le sens est le sexe FUCK THEM ALL Make love, us we make war Our lives upside down(in revearse) FUCK THEM ALL Make love, us we make war It’s us, our hell FUCK THEM ALL Make love, us we make war Our lives upside down ROCK'N'ROLL AND SOUL Make love, in the text The direction/meaning ? is the sex De nature innocente On manie élégance Et d’une main experte D’un glaive nous transperce With innocent nature We handle Elegance And of an expert hand Of (from ?) a sword transpierces us Les discours trop prolixes Que de la rhétorique Lâchetés familières Qui nous rendent guerrières Too prolix speeches Just rhetoric Familiar cowardices Which transform us in warriors Faire de leur vie un empire Faire l’amour à Marie (… tear) Et Marie est martyre (… tear) Sur le mur nos soupirs To make life an empire /To transform Life in an empire(... tear) To make love to Mary (... tear) And Mary is martyrdom (... tear) On the wall their are our sighs FUCK THEM ALL Faites l’amour, nous la guerre Nos vies à l’envers FUCK THEM ALL Faites l’amour, nous la guerre Signez, notre enfer FUCK THEM ALL Faites l’amour, nous la guerre Nos vies à l’envers ROCK AND SOUL Faites l’amour, dans le texte Le sens est le sexe.... FUCK THEM ALL Make love, us we make war Our lives upside down(in revearse) FUCK THEM ALL Make love, us we make war Sign our Hell FUCK THEM ALL Make love, us we make war Our lives upside down ROCK'N'ROLL AND SOUL Make love, in the text The direction/meaning ? is the sex One english part is missing but words are easy to understand... :rolleyes: My translation is very bad so may be someone could help me to correct it ?...Haku , may I ask that to you, please...b advance thanks :) |
Great song! Love it!
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Fuck Them All La nature est changeante (Nature is changing) L'on respire comme ils mentent (We breathe as they lie) De façon ravageuse (Devastatingly) La nature est tueuse (Nature is a killer) Au temps des favorites (At the time of "favorites" Note: In France, a "favorite" was the official mistress of a noble man) Autant de réussites (So much success) Pour l'homme qui derrière a (For a man who behind him has) Une belle qui s'affaire (A beautiful woman working) Faire de leur vie un empire (To transform their life into an empire) Blood and tears Faire l'amour à Marie (To make love to Marie) Blood and tears Et Marie est martyre (And Marie is a martyr) Blood and tears Sur le mur nos soupirs (On the wall are our sighs) Fuck them all Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, nos vices à l'envers (Make love, we make war, our vices upside down) Fuck them all Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, saignez notre enfer (Make love, we make war, bleed our hell) Fuck them all Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, nos vices à l'envers (Make love, we make war, our vices upside down) Blood and soul Faites le mou dans le texte (Make the soft in the text) Le sens est le sexe (Sense and sex) De nature innocente (Of innocent nature) L'on manie élégance (We handle elegance) Et d'une main experte (And with an expert hand) Un glaive nous transperce (A sword pierces us) Les discours trop prolixes (Too prolix speeches) Que de la rhétorique (Only rhetoric) Lacheté familière (Common cowardice) Qui nous rendent guerrières (Which makes us warriors) Faire de leur vie un empire (To transform their life into an empire) Blood and tears Faire l'amour à Marie (To make love to Marie) Blood and tears Et Marie est martyre (And Marie is a martyr) Blood and tears Sur le mur nos soupirs (On the wall are our sighs) Fuck them all Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, nos vies à l'envers (Make love, we make war, our lives upside down) Fuck them all Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, saignez notre enfer (Make love, we make war, bleed our hell) Fuck them all Faites l'amour, nous la guerre, nos vies à l'envers (Make love, we make war, our lives upside down) Blood and soul Faites le mou dans le texte (Make the soft in the text) Le sens est le sexe (Sense and sex) Hey bitch, you're not on the list You witch! You suck! You bitch! They said Hey bitch, you're not on the list You witch! He suck you, bitch! They said Hey bitch, you're not on the list What's your name again? |
I like the song.. really powerful :D And the lyrics are very interesting too.
Thanks for the song Nath and Haku for the translation. :rose: x2 |
Thank so much Pat ! A lot of enormous kisses to you ! :) Merci....
Queenbee...so happy that you like the song and the lyrics...could you explain their meanings to me, please... :p a little lost here....Mylene is too "intellectual" for me :rolleyes: ...seriously ..i'ld be glad if you could give me your interpretation... Quote:
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...Me I was waiting ....more.....I think the music is a little easy...i'm sure she will make a Top again but...I think that her music from 15 years ago was better...better sound , quality and a kind of more research in the arrangements... for exemple I prefer this song ...in thinking , of course , it's 15 years old or more.... http://www.nichya.net/denial/Farmer_...ontrefacon.mp3 The title is "Without forgery I'm...a Boy"... :p |
Ahhh I've been waiting for years to hear something from her!
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Still a BIG thanx Nath and Haku :10x: :10x: |
I remember I read those lyrics somewhere... anyway, I have never heard this woman before, thank you for posting the link to the song :) :D .
I liked it, and from your comments now I am curious to hear more of her previous work :kawai: |
Her previous work ( of almost a 20 year-old career but only like 5 or 6 studio albums ) comprises elements of goth, baroque, pop, dance, rock etc. Each album is different but the "classic" Mylene is the one of the first three albums - which are also my favourite.
She has made songs out of Baudelaire's poems and has shot videos like short movies - she was one of the first to do that in the history of the music video ( pretty controversial stuff too as some of her videos were banned in France ). Anyway, "Fuck Them All" also has a video which is an incredible artistic work - and her best video in years - directed by Agusti Villaronga. Laurent wrote the music for the song :done: video I think it's about the destructive vicious circle of humanity but I'm not so sure...always difficult to interpret Mylene's words and videos. I like the song a lot more now, the video version is great :done: Looking forward to listening to her full album, the first in 6 years. |
Thanx for the info spy :rose:
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Hey bitch, you're not on the list
You witch! You suck! You bitch ! ... Hey Spy!..You know what I thi-ink ?... This Clip is MA-GNI-FI-IC ! :p I'm not crazy about the song but I really LOVE It !!!......because it is as the Mylène that I loved...the Mylène of Tristana....the one who doesn't need to show systematically her "a...s" to proove she is in the move....For me she is BEAUTIFUL in this clip ...and it's for YEARS that i dont think anymore that from her...she is simple but ELEGANT and has recovered her mystery!.... First mystery : How could she be the same physically than 18 years ago...hihi.... No, about the meaning of the clip I think it would be a good thing to get some informations about the reference mentionned in the clip: "from "Les épouvantails" de Martial Leiter"... Indeed, by my side i don't search really the meaning right now.....just some flashes... ...the sound of the wind of "Giorgino" ...the horse of "Libertine.... ...the snow of "Tristana"... ...the factory of ...I don't remember "Tout est K.o..." ... ...the crow of "L'autre'... ...the crow and Mylène/Witch in a cage..symbole of Inquistion... ...the stockings of Libertine and as Farmer's brand but discret , here... ..the short hair of...i don't remember the name of this clip , when she is with her puppet and a guy who is acting her puppet which becomes alive... ....her wonderful coat!!!....I mean it's an alegant coat as she use to wear before instead of her last Bit...ch clothes..... ..the mirror of Tristana White Snow.. ...the dead Mylène as her puppet with the magician... ...the glave..as the sword of King Arthur... ...the grave as in "il n'y a pas d'ailleurs".... ...the glave and the coat , walking in the snow...the same shapes as "Le petit Prince " de Saint-Exupéry, excepted he walks in the desert.. ...the tissus as in Inamorrata , I think... ....and the face of dead birds...... i don't want to say stupidities....but i'm pretty sure i saw these same faces in drawing ....I mostly think it is Max Ernst 's drawing...not 100% sure ...but I think so.... So.... Hello, tatysite's little members....!!!! What do you wait to look at this clip!!!!! It's a good farmer 's ONE ! Yeah ! Thanks a lot Spy....a kiss to you for the clip..... ;) :rose: ps: http://www.lexpress.ch/loisirs/voyag...ouvantails.jpg "Les épouvantails" de Martial Leiter" |
The song is cool too, you people check the video :)
you don't remember the video with the puppeteer? that's Sans Contrefacon, LOL :D |
I love the vid, Spy :D . Thanks. Hehe, I've always been interested in Mylene since I saw Libertine ...
I am on painkillers so I'm not making very much sense ! |
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Spy, thanks a bunch for the video! The video is absolutely fantastic! |
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spyretto, thank you very much for the video, It's great!
I like it, very dark and cold, good :), and the only colorful thing there is her hair hehe Thanks nath for the info about the vid :) "Fuck them all" specially dishonest people |
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or then again, maybe not ;) This silly reading of mine might hold some water when it comes to interpreting the song's message as aiming at society's hypocricy and double standards. The scarecrows - rigid, static - may be symbolic of our society's values, norms and preconceptions. Consistent with the song's lyrics, we get the two sides of Mylene in the video, the delicate side ( the captive ) and the paranoid side ( the warrior ). "Of innocent nature we handle elegance" ( the crows are the example ) "And with an expert hand a sword pierces us" ( but we are the ones who arm the hand, cause it's the world of our own making ) It makes sense to me that way. |
Since Ms. Farmer doesn't give an impression of being any exceptional lyrics writer she leaves key phrases and then doubles them with examples. The key phrases are:
nos vices à l'envers (our vices upside down) nos vies à l'envers (our lives upside down) The rest is used to picture these statements. (Of course, "Fuck them all" is another key) So what do we have? The values are upside down and fuck them all. Spy, Why do you always delete your messages? Anything wrong with your computer? If not, please just use edit function. |
No, some I delete cause I update them, this one was updated a few times. Then I don't like the "last edited by...etc" part, and by deleting and posting a new message it brings the message to the top.
It's my favourite feature you got on this forum :cool: Others I delete cause I simply don't like: I might write something impulsively and then think it's either too crap or too offensive so then I delete it. Is there a problem with deleting them then? I'd like the forum's approval to continue to do so, please. It's very important to me ;) As for Mylene not being a particularly good writer, I wouldn't put my finger on it since I don't speak French; she didn't go into advanced education - as far as I know - and therefore her lyrics are good and challenging as far as popular music goes Cause we're talking about popular music, not poetry :) Have a good day :) |
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It was not my point to disgrace Farmer in any way by saying that she apparently dosen't have any exceptional talents of writing her lyrics. It's about the structure of the lyrics where you can easily find the whole meaning in one phrase and the rest is just a sort of "chewing around" on the main idea. Of course it's okay for a pop-music or any music for that matter. It would do for an opera too, LOL! |
Well ;)
It's easy for you to say, cause you use refined methods to get the message straight away. Others may be still confused, wondering about her lyrics, and I'm sure her fans have jumped on the wagon of trying to give different interpretations. "Is it about Afghanistan?", "is it a feminist critique?"? "is it this? is it that? Well, I think it's what you say it is, cause Mme Farmer would rather take refuge in universal truths than refer to things so specific. She has built a myth of herself over the years and is doing a good job at holding on to it for dear life. Others have lost it. I'll try to reduce the habit of deleting messages, so we're all happy ;) |
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So i don't think Mylène killed the Mylène captive....think this last one was killed by the Society because she acted against the trditionnal moral.... So the Black Mylène come to "avenge" her and fights against the all anonymous, power, religious frighting members...the traditionnal society... So she returns the situation : usally men said "Faites l'amour, nous la guerre"....here she becomes a warrior herself... Who could be the black Mylène ? I mean which relations with the captive Mylène ? She could be her "emotionnal, thoughts" sister....(another person who is in the same position...agaisnt the traditionnal moral...)...she could be her real sister....she could be her Ghost, fantôme...reincarnation....I mean she could be the captive Mylène who comes back to have a revange...so when she acts she thinks about the captive Mylène , her previous life....flash-back...She has her vengeance in usisng the "society, men" weapon: the War instead of the traditionnal role devoted to women : Love..., with her friends , the crows (traditionnal friends of witches...not as a symbol of rigidity or society , for my part...Mylène awlays loved the crows...they are the symbol of all what is occulte...).... When her vengeance is accomplish, she diseapppar in dust or little crows to fly and go further with the wind and fight again against the Injustice of Society which doesn't recognize difference way of life...... I feel it as a song against the Society linked to Tradition and Religion/Power (the allusion to Marie /Martyr is Strong in the song and dead Mylène apppears in the clip as a true Martyr... victim....The witch becomes a Saint/Holy).. |
I saw a question of Nath's to help with the meaning and answered it. I said why there's a key and what purpose all the additional info has. I don't know why her fans think of her as a sort of myth. If you are searching for another weird artist with more international success, then Bjork is a good example. Farmer is good, her songs are fine.
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..almost a feminist reading nath good :)
Well, I held on to one specific effect for my interpretation: from the blood of the scarecrows a new crow is morphed. I thought that had some significance. On the other hand, she was always fond of playing heroines ( of sorts ) in her videos. P.S. Bjork? Why not Madonna - with more international recognition and she's also a better dancer ;) |
The world of Farmer is : occulte, communications with Dead people, all things linked with Death, opposition to society with her "Witch Side: sexe linked to Evil, death communication..."...She loved Allan Edgar Poe and this one wrote a lot about The Double..."Wilson Wilson" and so on...
I mean ...Farmer I think was during some times in a Religious School Institution when she was a kiddie or a teenager and she is a rebell agaisnt that ... |
Not really a Feminist but Religion & Power & Laaws are Masculine.....so femisnist indeed...but i don't feel her as a feminist to "get more"...but just as a feminist to "repear/ fix" the injustice....
Faites l'Amour, Nous la guerre: Men are made to make War so have the Power, Women have just to shut up and make love.. |
Madonna used religion as a provocation...but she seems enough structured in her head....Mylène isn't clear at all in her head ...and I don't know Björn but she seems worse...with more creatiity and talent I think...but Björn could be dramatic but I feel her with more positive sides, more light sides than farmer who doesn't seems to advance ...she statys in the same state for 20 years...closed in her dark aspect...
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So I said she's trying to preserve the myth and mystery she constructed around her name, if that makes any sense. As for Madonna and Bjork..well, no, I don't think so. Not my cup of tea at all. Bjork is plain weird, and not evolving much as an artist. As for Madonna..well, I'd rather not say. But I understand where they're coming from. |
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It's not about the myths anyway, Farmer is sending an important message. She has a very good but somewhat critical perseption of the world and she's good at telling that to the audience. |
In France I think we have 2 Stars in the meaning of Garbo Or Louise Brooks: secret , who seem unaccessible....Farmer and Isabelle Adjani.....but , by my side, I think if they 'ld make the tatysite test of nevrotic pathologies , they'ld be both Very High n all the options ..hhih...
But here , the question is : "Is it possible to be a "creator", an artist if you 're without "nevrose", psychological problems or fragilities?"....If you're perfectly okay with yourself , why this desire to show you to the public , or to write to share ? |
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So, she sees herself as a heroine again...a bit vain for my liking but it's her. She could have done it a little more powerful in that case though. We don't see much in a way of a story. Quote:
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it's not the first or the last who is nihilistic in her approach--> these ones lie! hihi! to say I love nobody , i care of nothing s just the protected way to say "I want everybody loves ME!" hihihi...always the same story ....hahah...these ones are the worse narcissics... :D
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We had Arnold the Terminator ...now we have Spy The Ereaser....hihi...it was the nickname of Jean Reno in "Leon".... :p
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Track 1 Avant que L'ombre, beautiful beautiful song, her falsetto at the end, amazing.
Track 2 Fuck Them All, alas, the only rocking song of the album. Track 14 Et Pourtant, very nice ballad, Mylene's trademark. The rest are fillers, they sound like Alizee's songs only they're WORSE. I'm pretty disappointed but her fans seem to like this work so... :rolleyes: |
I think 'Fuck them all' is a great song, except the parts where they say 'fuck them all'. It's so annoying and stupid imo. :bum:
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I have the feeling that Track 13 - Peut-être Toi could work ...with a better mixage...."Shut Up, Shut Up,Shut Up..."...it could work in the gay night-club.....*by the way Mylène has improved in english!.. ;) *
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Well, now that I listened a bit more to her album I think that all the songs are interesting for about a minute. All the ideas are exhausted after that, and they degenarate into boredom. It's as if they had some ideas but they couldn't develop them into a 4 minute-song that'd be interesting enough, or maybe they only had few ideas for too many songs. Quantity is not always quality.
Peut-etre Toi for example, it starts well, you expect a spark to come out from somewhere but it doesn't. Same with almost all the rest of the songs. It's intruiging, because you want to keep on listening hoping that you'll start liking the song but there's not much there, neither a grower nor an instant hook. Most of the choruses are weak ( example: Tous Ces Combats, nice start WEAK chorus ). She has improved her English, how? Cause she uses English phrases? It reminds me of japanese pop, LOL in silence solehwa in silence hatehshinaku in silence sotto oh my heart mayotteh ita :D |
Okay... I know this is WAY of topic... but could someone tell me how "Mylène" is pronounced? I'm wondering especially cause of the funky "è" in the middle.
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the stress goes where there's a stress Mylene..last "e" is silent :)
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