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coolasfcuk
17-02-2005, 14:45
since its kind of political, I place this here, for those of you who have not heard about this.

It has been a major issue in Bulgaria for years now ... and it is just simply 'horiffic' so I wont say that much about it at this moment, but give you a website about it. But i have seen enough about it on Bulgarian TV while home - and it is simply depressing. They have showed those medics, who after 5-6 years in Libyan prisons and countless amounts of torture! are NOT human beings anymore .... and even if they get freedom (which doesnt seem likely) i dont see how they can return to leading any sort of even close to nomal life!

disturbing!

http://www.nishand.org/

forre
17-02-2005, 15:50
It certainly is horrific, but then judging from the article, there's no chance for them of returning to any life whatsoever. Why did they spread the virus in the first place? :confused:

coolasfcuk
17-02-2005, 16:09
Why did they spread the virus in the first place? :confused:
Well, no one but the Libyans now believes they really spread the virus - the health conditions in the hospital were VERY POOR - they were living back in time and had to RE-USE needles and so on. International HIV specialists have declared that the virus outbreak started about a year before most of those bulgarians had even come to Libya to work :(
They have been convicted based on confessions obtained with repeted torture :(

http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/ENGMDE190092004

shorter articles:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/06/06/INGUQ6VPD91.DTL

the whole case from start to present with a lot of detail from BTA (Bulgarian telegraph agency)
http://www.bta.bg/site/libya/en/

:( :( :( those people are GONE, they are a perfect case of alive corpses! it is just so unbelievable and WHY havent Bulgarian authorities been able to SAVE those poor people so far!

forre
17-02-2005, 16:47
Sounds like Stalin times in the former Soviet. Well, what can be done about that?

coolasfcuk
18-02-2005, 14:55
Sounds like Stalin times in the former Soviet.
:hmmm: I know, I personally remember very well how up to 3rd grade every year I got shots in the kindergarden or the school with the big, fat, metal NEEDLES that were RE-USED, after supposedly being sanitized :rolleyes: THAT was the general practice in Bulgaria, and I am assuming all over eastern europe (or was it the world? :eek: )
Well, what can be done about that?
I think now some famous international people are finally hearing about this and are trying to help by trying to get the UK and USA medias involved, in hope of more powerful international people getting invloved. Obviously the bulgarians cannot do anything on their own! :(

Today there was an interview with the husband of one of the nurses, who in 1999 (when the arrst occured) was working in another Libyan town as a doctor. In 1999 when he heard his wife was arrested he traveled to her town right away, and while trying to visit her, he was ALSO arrested and charged with being part of the conspiracy and also inprisoned! :( He was released from prison on May 6th 2004, the same day the nurses got the death penalty by fire squad! He is still in Libya since then, TRYING to obtain an EXIT visa! He recently went to visit the nurses (who arent allowed to be visited by journalists) and answered questions about them. He literaly said that "they are on the other side" ...... reffering that they have crossed the line from living to DEAD! and he said they all have really, really poor health! :(

forre
18-02-2005, 15:30
I really hope that this matter will get an international exposure. Right now, there's nothing in Sweden, that's not a good sign. I'll check for the news later. What about CNN? It tends to produce a certain impact.

coolasfcuk
18-02-2005, 15:39
I really hope that this matter will get an international exposure. Right now, there's nothing in Sweden, that's not a good sign. I'll check for the news later. What about CNN? It tends to produce a certain impact.
yeah, I am not sure how the news can get to CNN .... and usually, if it is not USA related, it gets 2 mins exposure and then its over. But Im sure there is a way to try to get as many international medias and institutions involved! :dknow:

One other fact: one of the guys that FOUND the HIV virus, which would qualify him as an expert wouldny you say, was a witness at the case ... after doing analysis, he is the one that said the infection happened because of POOR HYGINE and incompetant staff in 1997. The Bulgarians moved to Libya in 1998 :eek: His oppinion was DISMISSES by the Libyan court because the Libyan doctors opposed it (obviously the locals are far better experts to them than the western co-founder of the virus! :mad: )

forre
18-02-2005, 15:43
yeah, I am not sure how the news can get to CNN .... and usually, if it is not USA related, it gets 2 mins exposure and then its over. But Im sure there is a way to try to get as many international medias and institutions involved!
CNN International doesn't cover that much USA issues as it seems.

Libya is a dictature, so they don't give much f*ck what Bulgarian think unless the matter will have a global exposure. That's the key in this business. They may claim that it's Libya's internal affairs and then no one would be able to do anything.

haku
04-11-2006, 18:30
After 8 years and 2 trials, the final verdict will be delivered on 19 December (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6116708.stm). Those poor people will most likely be sentenced to death since this trial is just a farce.