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Kate
22-11-2004, 09:32
Producer Ivan Shapovalov: Some kind of brutality is waking up inside me

After her birthday party, singer Lama was in a hospital with skull-brain trauma, damage to the cerebrum and fractured jaw.

Lama before the BD party (http://kp.ru/upimg/logo_32452.jpg)

Last Saturday a girl with severe traumas was brought to the First hospital in Moscow. The doctors confirmed that she head skull-brain trauma, damage to the cerebrum and a fractured jaw. The patient was a young singer named Lama, whose debut music video “Dyshy” (“Breathe”) just appeared on the charts of Muz-TV.

Despite the severity of the girl’s condition, the doctors and the investigators found out that she spent her birthday in the “Podnebesnaya” studio on the 13th floor of hotel “Pekin”. According to the recent version of events, the owner of the studio, ex-producer of group Tatu was present at the party

The party was going smoothly up until the time when Lama decided to go home. The elevator didn’t work that night, so she decided to take the stairs. She had a conversation on the stairs with Ivan Shapovalov, who, according to the friends of the girl, wanted to get close with her. Probably, after another rejection by the girl, there was a heated dispute over the feelings. As a result, the young lady was found on the stairs by the security guards of “Pekin” unconscious with a fractured face.

Lama looked like this after the party (http://kp.ru/upimg/photo_32453.jpg)

The next morning Lama was taken to a trauma center, where the doctors called an ambulance. Lama is expected to stay in the hospital for a few weeks. Right now her room is guarded.

Ivan Shapovalov’s version of events

During our visit, Shapovalov was acting strangly.

“Is it true that you beat up the girl?”

(Silence.)

“What caused such a strong reaction from your side.”

“I didn’t want her to come here anymore.”

“So, as they say, the event had a cause?”

“Yes, the cause was there.” (Giggles.)

“Did she act in a wrong way?”

“She, if I understood you correctly, found her way to the hospital.” (Laughs loudly.)

“Do you think it’s OK to hit girls?”

“I don’t think about them at all.” (Waves hand tiredly.)

“So you are saying you didn’t beat up Lama?”

“Not only her. Some kind of brutality is waking up inside me. (Meditates.)

“Did the police come here again?”

“Yes. But the police usually bugs me for drugs. Where will I find the drugs?!” (Raises hands in
a questioning manner.)

“So you are not disagreeing with Lama’s version of events?”

“Why would I disagree with her. Let her live.” (Raises hand proudly.)

We doubted that Shapovalov was in a “good state of mind and memory”, so we talked to his director.

”There’s no scandal here. The girl never recorded here. We rarely have strangers in the studio. On the 13th of NovemberIvan was in Island, he has the tickets. I’m sure that the beat up rumors are just provocations, nothing more.”

Source: KP.Ru
Translated by katbeidar for TatySite.net

taturocks8
22-11-2004, 10:12
Oh no Not Ivan I couldn't imagine him doing something like this.:(

I don't think he did its just a rumour to me.

I'm a fan of ivan.

QueenBee
22-11-2004, 10:23
I wonder if it's true! My dear Ivan! :p Nah, kidding... it's kind of extreme that he would do such a thing, but you never know what a doper would do, right? Aha. But the picture (Lama after the party) to me seems kind of fake. I don't know why, really, I might be real of course, but there's just something about it... The bruising just seems so unnatural. Oh well. *Shrugs*

I sure hope she gets better, and that Ivan (or anyone) won't treat future guests in such a way. :mad:

Mossopp
22-11-2004, 15:13
Ivan is a wanker! I can well believe that he'd throw some chick down a flight of stairs for refusing his advances - the man is a pig! If he didn't do it then why doesn't he just say he didn't do it? :mad:

haku
22-11-2004, 15:19
Thanks for the translation katbeidar :)

Everything is possible with Ivan, the guy is high on dope most of the time (not that it's an excuse for beating up a woman).

forre
22-11-2004, 15:31
katbeidar, Thanks. Good that you managed to interprete Ivan's rubbish in a good way. :done:
He speaks like a freak. The guy has problems with showing respect to the others. I think it's possible enough that he did it.

Unplugged
22-11-2004, 17:16
It wouldn't surprise me if it were true :no:

arbalet42
22-11-2004, 17:28
It wouldn't surprise me if it were true

Personally, I don't think that this is true. The fact that I've never heard about Lama in my life means that she, as an unknown singer, might have chosen Ivan as a mean of becoming famous quickly.
Oh, and Shapovalov is always playing a role of a bizarre man when he is talking to the press. Should we be surprised? :p

freddie
22-11-2004, 18:10
Yeah. Eventhough he didn't deny it it'd still be odd doing something like this. He doesn't look too violent at all.

ihavetatusleeve
22-11-2004, 19:02
I wonder if it's true! My dear Ivan! :p Nah, kidding... it's kind of extreme that he would do such a thing, but you never know what a doper would do, right? Aha. But the picture (Lama after the party) to me seems kind of fake. I don't know why, really, I might be real of course, but there's just something about it... The bruising just seems so unnatural. Oh well. *Shrugs* I sure hope she gets better, and that Ivan (or anyone) won't treat future guests in such a way. :mad:

I agree with your view on the dubious "after" photo. Don't black eyes turn yellow when they're healing? And that eye should be swollen shut if it's a few hours after the incident. She'd quite possibly be comatose and her face more swollen if she truly had cerebral damage and a fractured jaw. Take a look at Ogrish.com for photos of people with traumatic injuries - they don't look that pretty in bed.

And the "before" picture ... hmmm... I can see why Ivan would be interested in her, she looks like a porn star. This is another one of Ivan's attention getting stunts.

Kate
22-11-2004, 20:43
Ivan is always high on drugs, and usually that means unpredictable mood swings and bizzar behaviour. Who knows what could have been going through his head?

The theory of Lama using Ivan as a means of becoming famous sounds plausible to me, too, however.

But at this point, I think I'd more likely believe that Ivan beat up the girl, rather then the second theory. :p

freddie
22-11-2004, 23:50
I agree with your view on the dubious "after" photo. Don't black eyes turn yellow when they're healing?

But she just recieved those injuries very recently. It wouldn't start healing that soon would it? And the eye shuts close only if she'd be smacked directly in the eye. Looks like someone'd hit her close to the eye, but not exactly that area.

Kate
23-11-2004, 00:09
Every injury is different, and it heals differently depending on the person and medicine etc etc.

Edit: Igor from the Russian forum decided it was payback time and rearranged Shap's face "slightly". Result: http://forum.tatysite.net/files.php?get=Temp%2Fivan.jpg Thanks to Igor, the pic is priceless.

freddie
23-11-2004, 00:28
They should start making those "I got abused by Ivan Shapovalov, and all I got was this lousy pop singer career" T-shirts. :p

taturocks8
23-11-2004, 03:27
ivan looks shocking in the photo

taturocks8
23-11-2004, 05:21
Ivan did not deserve to be beaten up. :(

A man with with great talent they do this to him.

Theres no proof he baet up that girl. oh ivan.

QueenBee
23-11-2004, 09:25
Result: http://forum.tatysite.net/files.php?get=Temp%2Fivan.jpg Thanks to Igor, the pic is priceless.
Haha, thank you Igor! To me that looks more real than the wound of the girl..:p

They should start making those "I got abused by Ivan Shapovalov, and all I got was this lousy pop singer career" T-shirts.
OMG! HAHAHAHAHA :lol:

denial
23-11-2004, 12:15
Every injury is different, and it heals differently depending on the person and medicine etc etc.

Edit: Igor from the Russian forum decided it was payback time and rearranged Shap's face "slightly". Result: http://forum.tatysite.net/files.php?get=Temp%2Fivan.jpg Thanks to Igor, the pic is priceless.

well.. maybe Igor didn't mean "payback" to Ivan .. but instead to prove this thing can be fake.. :lalala:

yes? am I right Mr. Igor? :nunu:

QueenBee
23-11-2004, 12:20
well.. maybe Igor didn't mean "payback" to Ivan .. but instead to prove this thing can be fake..
Could be. :p As I said, Igor's work looks more real than the picture of Lama. :lol:
But if this is true then.. my apologies to Lama for making fun of her wounds. :hmmm:

ihavetatusleeve
23-11-2004, 15:07
Every injury is different, and it heals differently depending on the person and medicine etc etc.

Edit: Igor from the Russian forum decided it was payback time and rearranged Shap's face "slightly". Result: http://forum.tatysite.net/files.php?get=Temp%2Fivan.jpg Thanks to Igor, the pic is priceless.

Nice pic! Looks very authentic.

I think her injuries are fake. I admit it, I'm not an ambulance worker, but I've seen my share of people who've been beat up and no matter how hard you're hit, you swell up and look miserable. It's a publicity stunt. Ivan came out with the singing Chechen, now a battered porn star - what next?