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thegurgi
16-03-2004, 05:07
I don't know if i'm the only one who's curious... but, Do any of the Russian fans HAVE this CD? Was it even released?

I'm very confused, we've seen no scans of the artwork for the CD, does it not have any picture of the girls? And what about the Tatu Track? We know there is one full song on it that most of us haven't heard. We don't even know if it's all just Lena or not. So this is my filling my curiousity? Any answers Sunny? Forre? Igor? ....

Thanks in advance.

nasnedagoniat
15-04-2004, 14:02
It has just been released a few days ago. I was disappointed because there was only one website selling it, and it looked like it only shipped to Russia, but it ships everywhere. With my handy translator(only to be certain), I found my way around very easily. I can't wait to hear Belochka in full CD quality! And Russian to American dollars = cheap! Yay for me. :coctail: ...And, oh yeah, the exclusive supplier for the CD is this site (http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/1657902/?partner=000). :chupa: :kawai:

ihavetatusleeve
15-04-2004, 16:00
It has just been released a few days ago. I was disappointed because there was only one website selling it, and it looked like it only shipped to Russia, but it ships everywhere. With my handy translator(only to be certain), I found my way around very easily. I can't wait to hear Belochka in full CD quality! And Russian to American dollars = cheap! Yay for me. :coctail: ...And, oh yeah, the exclusive supplier for the CD is this site (http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/1657902/?partner=000). :chupa: :kawai:

Yay for nasnedagoniat! Thanks for the link. I clicked around and used a translator, too but am still confused! I figured out the price is $5 USD with 35 cents shipping :bum: Highway ripoff!! LOL How much did your order come out to for shipping to the US, NND?

I feel bad, tho, that we're paying for this record with one new song and a slew of unknowns when we were told that with the show we'd see the recording of the much-anticipated new Tatu LP. We were duped on this one, and I feel hesistant to invest in it no matter how cheap it is; I'd rather get the single for "Squirrel" if they release one, really; hopefully Larry Tee or another great DJ will do remixes and they'll be released soon. I've heard it on MP3 and that's fine with me. If they recorded the new LP in secret, I hope they release it soon!

And now I get this crazy feeling that the show in NJ is going to be a Podnebesnaya showcase in the guise of a Tatu concert. I hope that when May 22 rolls around we get to see a full concert by Tatu (at least an hour of performance) rather than a talent show with the other artists on the record, and then a few songs from the girls. You really never know what will transpire.

nasnedagoniat
15-04-2004, 17:55
Heya! My order came out to be around $14.00 to ship to the U.S. I don't think that was bad at all. I was kind of surprised.

I was quite desperate too. When I'm desperate I can do amazing things. The Russian words started to become English all of a sudden. I guess I knew Russian all along. LOL :confused: The only thing that's wierd is you pay after you have ordered with this thing called ASSIST. I wouldn't normally go through this, but I sent emails to all the Russian/American music stores, and they all said they didn't have it and something about an exclusive title to sell. I guess that means the record company made a deal with that internet store??

Right now, about t.A.T.u., I agree with the "Wait And See" method. I don't know what else to do, except listen to Belochka on repeat and pretend I'm a bunny. If you have questions on how to get the cd, I don't mind helping. :coctail:

ihavetatusleeve
15-04-2004, 19:35
Thanks for the info. I think I'll "wait and see" with this record. $14 with delivery from Russia is a good price. tho.

And you're a bunny and a prince now - interesting :)

nasnedagoniat
16-04-2004, 14:00
The Bunny Prince of Podnebesnaya, that's me. I'll have to change up my profile to confirm this to everyone. :laugh: :yes:

nasnedagoniat
17-04-2004, 14:40
So, we can tell when a cd is actually good....there is less of an effort to share. LOL. :greedy: I ordered the album days ago, but from Russia to the U.S., I fear I'll be an old bunny by the time I get the cd. So, I officially request for the best tracks to be uploaded by anyone in possession of the cd at this time. Even if precautions are taken to stop the music from going around the entire net and decreasing album sales. I'd like to hear what I paid for.(w/o paying more at Delit) :gigi: The best tracks include, Helya, Orkrist - Planeta, the rap song :laugh: , and the arabic song, and whatever else. Thankies. :rose:

EDIT: I got them from someone, YAY! Now it's my turn. :greedy: Yay!

razormaid
19-04-2004, 07:40
People, the album is available at delit.net in the Russian Music section under 'Taty'. If you sign up to the site you can download 2 tracks per day free (very slow though) or you could use your credit card.

Lux
19-04-2004, 17:24
http://delit.net/music/title_list_rus.phtml?id=7424

i tried to listen but the links don't work

whaat the

teeny
19-04-2004, 17:48
oi.. going to get me the remix album and the new Smash freeway album aswell as this one :D

Thank you for the links :10x:

*goes to figure out how to shop in the store*

QueenBee
19-04-2004, 18:01
Lux, I think you need to be registered there. I'm registered and it works for me, I just tried. :D

Nikolaevich
19-04-2004, 18:59
Also, If you don't want to wait to get another 2 songs, you can go to audiostore.ru! It's the same deal, 2 songs a day, and registration is free! Also, we have worked out a server where you can get the rest of the songs here: ftp://ard.no-ip.info/others , Look for Podnebesnaya No.1! Good luck at getting the entire album, it really is great. I actually purchased a cd just to have it. :coctail:

denial
19-04-2004, 19:33
nasnedagoniat, oii!! you bought the album? hmm . ..when are you going to receive it? I like the front cover art-work .. LoL..if you get the CD .. will you scan it ? .. well... I already have Belochka CD version MP3 .. so I guess no need to buy the album .. just hope girls come out with new album .. or what I really want is the album of all girls song while at podnebesnaya in there .. I don't care if its half way!! urrrhg!

la aurora
19-04-2004, 20:03
The album was released not so long ago, haven't seen it in shops tho but to be frank, didn't even have the chance to check. I've heard most of the songs during that Echo of Moscow interview, so I went to Delit to download ones I liked or haven't heard. 2 songs so far: Helya's 'Naydu' wich lacks any vocal abilities from the girl but still sounds nice in my ears. I do like the beat. Second one is Fly_Dream's 'Mezhdu nebom...' Like this one a lot. The music is nice and the girl's vocals are soft and relaxing. Thanks to D have heard Belochka also. No changes from what we've heard before. Still poor arrangement and still no Yulia singing.

denial
19-04-2004, 20:15
Thats song Belochka is Lena singing to Yulia .. how Yulia to sing in it? :bebebe: ..that poor arrangment .. to ..how to say this .. to emphisized ( is there such word? LoL ) .. I mean to tell about their surrounding ..

haku
19-04-2004, 20:22
I don't like the way Ivan is using Tatu's name to sell his new projects. :bebebe: Tatu's logo is on the cover even though there is no real Tatu song in it, it's only there to sell.

Lena herself said that Belochka was never finished, Yulia was supposed to sing too but the girls left Ponebesnaya before Yulia could do her part. The version on this album is just an half finished demo, Yulia's vocals are missing and the music is the same as the early drafts of the song. It's not a finished product and definitely not a Tatu song, Ivan put it there only to increase the sales of the album.

teeny
19-04-2004, 20:42
well it worked cos it's going my way :lalala:

nasnedagoniat
19-04-2004, 20:54
I sure did denial, I don't know when I'm going to get it, but hopefully soon. Sure I'll scan it if nobody does before me. I've just about d/l the whole album online too, I must say honestly that it is good music. There is something for everyone, and most of the songs have that "Shapovalov effect" as in they can be put on repeat and seem like they never get old. Hmmm... :confused: My favorite now is "Planeta", it's mostly music until the end. A girl comes on and sings(screams). It has that feeling of when Tatu scream or sing with lots of emotion. It's very powerful, but short, which is good so it doesn't get boring.

haku
19-04-2004, 21:33
well it worked cos it's going my way
Hehe, i have no doubt that it's going to work, it's clever maketing. Belochka is there to attract (former) Tatu fans, and the other songs are there to hook them on Ivan's new projects. Then Ivan will just have to release new albums of the most promising new projects and people will follow, Tatu will disappear and the transition to the "next generation" will be completed. "Only stupid people need the girls".

Lux
19-04-2004, 21:53
QB - thanks. i'll have to register asap
haku - i see what you're saying, and agree to some point. but maybe he's throwing out there what's left in lieu of not having anything prepared because of his recent legal misfortunes.

teeny
19-04-2004, 22:07
it is really clever marketing for sure.. and no way I'm to let a Lena song pass my way, because it might not be finished. It's cheap and I could order the last few albums for my collection at the same time :D just a bit sad they didn't have the version with the dvd aswell..

kr0k0
19-04-2004, 22:51
And this CD comes from Neformat ? It's humiliating if Neformat uses Tatu's name on that CD and it's only 1 Tatu song in it.

nasnedagoniat
20-04-2004, 00:47
I think that "only stupid people need the girls" means that good music is good music regardless of who is singing. To me it doesn't matter if I am attracted to the other POD artists because of the use of Belochka as a marketing ploy. We were attracted to the group t.A.T.u. in much the same way. But we ended up liking them. (t.A.T.u. used the whole schoolgirl lesbian image to catch our attention, even though we now know everything behind that stunt. It's not like people are buying the CD thinking it's full of new t.A.T.u. songs.)

But, I do think Ivan was lying when he said, "I am not t.A.T.u.", because he is t.A.T.u.(at least there is no t.A.T.u. w/o him), so "t.A.T.u. in Podnebesnaya" is not exactly false advertising.... :cool:

cirrus
20-04-2004, 02:57
"t.A.T.u. in Podnebesnaya" is not exactly false advertising....
but it kinda is.......:D
you could just as easily say that an album by Britney Spears' producers is a "britney" album, except the one important thing is missing. Having the tatu logo on the cover of the album is fine, but it's just there to bring attention and familiarity to Ivan's CD of new and unknown projects.

Lux
20-04-2004, 04:19
I think that "only stupid people need the girls" means that good music is good music regardless of who is singing. To me it doesn't matter if I am attracted to the other POD artists because of the use of Belochka as a marketing ploy. We were attracted to the group t.A.T.u. in much the same way. But we ended up liking them. (t.A.T.u. used the whole schoolgirl lesbian image to catch our attention, even though we now know everything behind that stunt. It's not like people are buying the CD thinking it's full of new t.A.T.u. songs.)

But, I do think Ivan was lying when he said, "I am not t.A.T.u.", because he is t.A.T.u.(at least there is no t.A.T.u. w/o him), so "t.A.T.u. in Podnebesnaya" is not exactly false advertising.... :cool:


t.A.T.u. came out as themselves, with one amazing cd. that is what got people hooked. how is this the same as the compilation album using tatu's name to get people interested?
i am saying that using "tatu" on the cover is one step away from saying "we having nothing completed by this group that we no longer work with but please buy this album with a bunch of other singers under the guise of their name and popularity"

it's exactly false advertising. the songs are mostly not by tatu, although their name is on the cover, as THEIR cd. what the shit is that
i can see how ivan used tatu *among* his many projects to sell the album but STILL that is deceptive to the rest of us tatu fans, cause we didint want anything else, at least i didnt.

denial
20-04-2004, 08:02
.."Shapovalov effect" ..

nasnedagoniat, I just downloaded all the songs [ Thanks Greg ].... I agree with you .. I like all the songs...(except that Digital pussy ..even tho I think there's something about this song .. and make the beginning of the whole album tracks ). The album is blended with so many emotions and its sincere .. I think its brilliant.. music is fresh, new, energetic and strange arrangement..and its crazy .. now listening to Mezhnu nebom ... I love this song .. but I really like that song RadioStorm .. I just hope I know what its about ..:none:

Greg .. hope we get translation for this.




But, I do think Ivan was lying when he said, "I am not t.A.T.u.", because he is t.A.T.u.(at least there is no t.A.T.u. w/o him), so "t.A.T.u. in Podnebesnaya" is not exactly false advertising....
I think he's not ..in the ya budu video .. in the end .. when he said "Ya ne group tatu" ..he was holding a camera .. I think he meant to say that he just filming them. Like he is the medium between the girls expression and us. So if he is the film editor ..he add some effect to his cut. And I really think Yulia is the energy drive behind TATU (as they are).

About that Belochka song ( the squirrel ) .. I saw on tv documentary about squirrel .. it said the smartest animal and it can go through any obstacles to get to what it want. And you see how it can jump from one tree to tree ..and sticked flat to it .. it said its like a world class acrobatic ..

Anyway .. I would wait for translation of this album .. maybe it has something to do with how Ivan see TATU ( Ivan's story of tatu) so the title of the album goes. So I don't think this a false advertising.


Question:
Greg, the song RadioStorm is the song really sound half way? - 2.5 MB ?

nasnedagoniat
25-04-2004, 17:31
::Crying:: Sniff, sniff. Look at what I stumbled over at another fan site. (http://www.rbcmp3.com/tap/click.asp?id=7941&redir=http://www.rbcmp3.com/store/product.asp?dept%5Fid=800&sku=34408) This has to be the worst news(for me at least) I'm still waiting for mine from...sniff, sniff... Russia. I have no money to get another one. If, I did, I would only have to wait until Wednesday to enjoy the wonders of Podnebesnaya. Now I'm stuck. Maybe it won't be too long...... :( :( :( :cry:

thegurgi
25-04-2004, 17:41
no D, it should be longer... i must re upload

Kate
01-05-2004, 06:31
I dunno if any of you is interested in this crap (in my opinion), but you can preview it on the following links. Hope you like. :lol: The first title kinda speaks for the whole album. :lol: :lol:

1). Digital Pussy (http://delit.net/music/prelisten/752150/82725.m3u)

2). Belochka (http://delit.net/music/prelisten/752150/82726.m3u)

3). Chorchovon (http://delit.net/music/prelisten/752150/82727.m3u)

4). Volodya Putin (http://delit.net/music/prelisten/752150/82728.m3u)

5). Zakony Prosty (http://delit.net/music/prelisten/752150/82729.m3u)

6). Naidu (http://delit.net/music/prelisten/752150/82730.m3u)

7). Radioshtorm (http://delit.net/music/prelisten/752150/82731.m3u)

8). Smysla net (http://delit.net/music/prelisten/752150/82732.m3u)

9). Planeta (http://delit.net/music/prelisten/752150/82733.m3u)

10). Ne zhdala (http://delit.net/music/prelisten/752150/82734.m3u)

11). H.V. (http://delit.net/music/prelisten/752150/827235.m3u)

12). Mezhdu nebom (http://delit.net/music/prelisten/752150/827236.m3u)

:coctail:

denial
01-05-2004, 07:07
Kate .. I have mp3 of the whole album ..

http://www.nichya.net/Podnebesnaya/

I like that song Heyla - Naidu and Mezhdu nebom.. will you help me with lyric and translation of that songs?

Kate
01-05-2004, 07:26
denial, maybe... I am a but busy with the exams. Lol. But we'll see.

nasnedagoniat
01-05-2004, 07:58
I finally got the cd in the mail. I was just about to ask for lyrics, but denial beat me to the punch. Hopefully katbeidar or anyone else can provide us with lyrics or just an explanation of what each song is about sans Digital Pussy, so we can have a better comprehension of the album. Thanks.

teeny
28-05-2004, 09:38
The package did arrive:D

Though I must admit I've been playing the Smash!! album only so far.. but will be listening to this one soon.

forre
07-12-2004, 14:45
5 tracks from the new compilation "UNDERheaven" can be downloaded here (http://forum.tatysite.net/showpost.php?p=207123&postcount=141).

Feat.
Track 02: Nato / Naloi
Track 03: Helya / Ruhe
Track 05: Katya Nechaeva / Kapuerro
Track 06: RAF / RAF song
Track 08: Bratya Karamasyvy/ Underheaven

QueenBee
07-12-2004, 15:08
forre, thank you! And thank you Tom C. Martovski.

Where do I recognize the first song's music from? I can't quite put my finger on it... :p Does Helya sing in GERMAN?! I had no idea. :ithink:

Anyways, I think the songs are weird, and they all appear to be high on something.

denial
07-12-2004, 17:18
Thanks Forre and Tom!! :rose:


Anyways, I think the songs are weird, and they all appear to be high on something.

I'm still downloading but I want to say thank you first. Queenbee .. well .. it was recorded in Podnesbesnaya .. Celestral .. somewhere between the sky and earth .. right?.. so its must sound something like that .. LoL .. *ahem* .. a genius production .. :rolleyes:

btw.. I LOVE Helya!!

Katya .. what language she singing? sound really cute! LoL ..impressing.. !

Looks like I'm going to edit this post after everytime I listen to a song.

Okay .. last comment .. Ivan should focus with female singers .. nothing seems to help russian boy bands .. just good luck to SMASH! boys. da!

Unplugged
07-12-2004, 17:43
btw.. I LOVE Helya!!
I would have to disagree. I hate her voice. Sounds like an annoying baby girl talking and screaming in my ears. No wonder this was created by sicko Ivan :rolleyes:

denial
07-12-2004, 17:46
I would have to disagree. I hate her voice. Sounds like an annoying baby girl talking and screaming in my ears. No wonder this was created by sicko Ivan :rolleyes:

Your hatred .. change nothing ..

Unplugged
07-12-2004, 17:49
change nothing ..
Why should I change my taste, denial? I don't expect you to change your musical taste, either. This is a forum, people have different musical tastes and different opinions, and should not be judged by them.

thegurgi
07-12-2004, 18:33
i don't like Helya either, Miguel and i completely agree with you.

QueenBee
07-12-2004, 18:49
i don't like Helya either, Miguel and i completely agree with you.
That sounded strange in my mind. :spy: Like you AND Miguel agreed with someone else... Hmmm..

Eeeh... screw that! :p

So that is Helya.. I was actually pretty curious about her. I can't remember anything I've heard from her other than this. No info either. She is well... unique, I'd say. I like her because she's not like all the other artists with sweet innocent voices. ;)

denial
07-12-2004, 19:44
Eeeh... screw that! :p

You remind me of someone as sweet as you are .. :rose: .. she said I should learn to say that word "screw that!" to people .. LoL ..


So that is Helya.. I was actually pretty curious about her. I can't remember anything I've heard from her other than this. No info either. She is well... unique, I'd say. I like her because she's not like all the other artists with sweet innocent voices. ;)
I agree with Queenbee ...

*kicks Greg on the ass* for a poor taste in music philosophy. Screw you!!

QueenBee
07-12-2004, 19:47
You remind me of someone as sweet as you are ..
Fanx. :heart:

*kicks Greg on the ass* for a poor taste in music philosophy.
Yeah, you gotta look "beyond the boobs". :lol: Anyone remember that? *Or is it just me*

Screw you!!
;)

Are there any other songs by this Helya girl? Because I really can't recognize her voice.

denial
07-12-2004, 19:56
To my dearest Queenbee....

Check this out ..

http://forum.tatysite.net/showpost.php?p=171330&postcount=30

QueenBee
07-12-2004, 20:18
Thank you my dearest Denial. ;)

The link on your site is sadly not working though, I'm guessing the mp3's have been removed... and I am confused, does she sing BOTH of those songs? Naidu AND Mezhdu nebom or just Naidu? :confused:

denial
07-12-2004, 20:37
To my dearest Queenbee,

I am not sure either if she sang both song .. I don't remember... but Naidu is for sure since I wrote it there.. both songs are nice and sound somehow similiar..

The link doesnt work for long time already .. I know *ahem* .. Greg removed it..

but anyway.. I uploaded both songs just now...

http://www.nichya.net/LovingIvan/

Hope you'll like it. :rose:


Sincerely yours,
- denial

QueenBee
07-12-2004, 20:43
denial, thanks alot. :rose: I already had the song Mezhdu Nebom.. I like that one alot. I wonder if she sings both songs too. I'm listening to Naidu right now, so far it is pretty good. :)

thegurgi
08-12-2004, 02:16
*kicks Greg on the ass* for a poor taste in music philosophy. Screw you!!

now, now... you need to respect other peoples taste, and i didn't really care for Helya's song on the album... at all. And don't forget, i've found for you a ton of songs that i LOVE and you don't like (and for which i think you're crazy, but i wouldn't cyber kick you)

Freddy
08-12-2004, 10:03
denial, thanks alot. :rose: I already had the song Mezhdu Nebom.. I like that one alot. I wonder if she sings both songs too. I'm listening to Naidu right now, so far it is pretty good. :)

Helya only sings "Naidu" on the Podnebesnaya album... The singer for "Mezhdu Nebom" is "aNEXIS" Well really, only one of the girls. Their website is anexis .ru Belissa told me that a while ago, when I formed my love affair for that song :heart:

Ya_lyublyu_taty
04-08-2006, 22:32
The link doesn't work, someone can tell me where I can have some of informations of "Anexis", I'm interessed by this group ^^

Thanks :)