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forre
30-01-2004, 22:09
Contest: Send A Song For t.A.T.u. - terms and conditions

1. STS and Rambler (the organisers) announce a contest Send A Song For t.A.T.u.

2. Terms: the participants of the contest are offered the possibility to submit a sample of the music piece (with – or without lyrics) or just the lyrics for group t.A.T.u.

3. The submitted compositions/texts or only texts of the songs in formats MP3, DOC, TXT, RTF, which are to be sent to podnebesnaya@rambler.ru (the texts only), by filling in the form at http://podnebesnaya.rambler.ru/inside/konkurs.html , or in a written form (music by note sheets) sent to: 123298, Moscow, Box 60, Contest: Send A Song For t.A.T.u. The material should be submitted before March, 15. Please enclose your: name, surname, age, address, telephone number.

4. All the materials submitted, will be published on the site and the visitors of the site will be able to vote on-line for the best song.

5. The results of the contest will define 3 winners – the songs/texts, that will score the majority of the votes from the visitors of the site.

6. The names of the winners will be published on the site not later than March, 30, 2004.

7. The prizes – t-shirts with the t.A.T.u. image and autographs. The prizes will be handed out not later than March, 30, 2004.

8. Place and time where the prizes can be picked up will be given to the winners by a phone call to the number submitted.

9. The prize can’t be replaced by a monetary equivalent.

10. The materials submitted won’t be returned to the authors.

11. The participant (or its representative) guarantees that the materials submitted for the contest are original and the usage of the materials doesn’t contradict any copyright, mutual or any other personal or material rights of the third party.

12. The organisers undertake to present all the materials sent to the contest for the review to group t.A.T.u. The organisers keep the right to present the material in any media dispensable by the organisers (TV, internet site) and keep the right to reveal the participan’s data (name, age).

13. The Organisers themselves, personnel working directly with the organisers or their family members are not given the right to participate in this contest.

By participating in this contest, the participant agrees with the present terms and conditions of the contest.
Any underage participants should be represented by their parents or any other legal persons.

Source: rambler.ru (http://podnebesnaya.rambler.ru/inside/konkurs_rules.html)

Kate
30-01-2004, 22:23
The prizes – t-shirts with the t.A.T.u. image and autographs. The prizes will be handed out not later than March, 30, 2004.

This is so sad, it's actually funny. :lol: :(

Shapovalov will be making millions on a hit song sent in by a fan who got a T-shirt for it. :lol: Can they cross any more lines?

haku
30-01-2004, 22:28
Thanks forre :)

If people want to read the lyrics or listen to the songs already submitted, it's here:
http://podnebesnaya.rambler.ru/songs/

forre
30-01-2004, 22:34
katbeidar, it's not funny anymore - it's a pure bizzare ...
Si, si ... ladies and gentlemen. Not sounding very pissimistic here, but the case is speaking for itself. The group who wasn't lacking on material, won't be calling for any contests like that. Sounds like STS and Shapovalov are desperate. Publicity stunt - another would suggest! Oh, well ...

nikki
30-01-2004, 22:47
This is sounding very weird. What about royalties and stuff ?!

freddie
30-01-2004, 22:49
Hehe... maybe they should give a couple of T-shirts to Eleena Kiper for her contribution. Those 2 million dollars were so unneccessary! :D

spyretto
30-01-2004, 23:11
That's such a joke. If they included 100.000 euro to go with the t-shirts and autographs, maybe. Everything has a price, you know.

Who is going to contribute songs for Tatu? Their fans? who are their fans? Andrew Lloyd Webber? :D

Unplugged
30-01-2004, 23:11
Hehe... maybe they should give a couple of T-shirts to Eleena Kiper for her contribution. Those 2 million dollars were so unneccessary!

:lol: :lol:

This is getting really ridiculous. Ivan is such a clown. Doesn't have enough material, and the people who send him nice material get T-SHIRTS as a reward?! Pffff :rolleyes:

Kate
30-01-2004, 23:27
I am actually disgusted to the bottom of my soul by Shapovalov... :grustno:

Unplugged
30-01-2004, 23:43
Yeah, he's pretty sick!

But he does have fans in this forum (hi Queenie :p) :laugh:

teeny
31-01-2004, 00:04
Originally posted by forre
katbeidar, it's not funny anymore - it's a pure bizzare ...
Well, I can still see a little bit of fun in there.. A t-shirt.. lol
"The prizes will be handed out not later than March, 30, 2004." - personally? If so.. *starts thinking of possible lyrics*

Si, si ... ladies and gentlemen. Not sounding very pissimistic here, but the case is speaking for itself. The group who wasn't lacking on material, won't be calling for any contests like that. Sounds as STS and Shapovalov are desperate. Publicity stunt - another would suggest! Oh, well ...
they should team up with some of the productive swedish writers :coctail: Then again they are pretty used by most other artists already.

freddie
31-01-2004, 00:29
If the song goes multi-platinum the prize should at least be an XXL T-Shirt. I mean the author would surely deserve it. :rolleyes:

Guys just imagine how many lovely shirts must people who wrote all those big hits for Madonna have by now!! I envy them so! :D

denial
31-01-2004, 02:48
oh well .. why not ..t-shirt with autograph sound really cool..
*off to pick her guitar and try to make some song* .. thank you Forre...

QueenBee
31-01-2004, 03:15
What?! I make the coolest song on earth that earns them billions of dollars and I get a T-SHIRT?!

denial
31-01-2004, 03:33
QueenBee, correction .. t-shirt with autograph...here picture of Lena .. already signing one .. http://podnebesnaya.rambler.ru/images/95_0.1075470220.14106.jpg .... :love: ...priceless...


Added:

Oh well .. I tried to write song demo for TATU .. dont think I can do it .. I watched clips of Ivan on video's he singing Polchasa and the one he play keyboard at reality show . then I listen to Ivan singing MP3 .. this guy he likes so much 'attack'/'jumps'/'scream'/'energy' what ever that call in songs ..*sigh* :grustno: .. I guess he's very choosy in songs selection..

*gave up the priceless t-shirt*

Unplugged
31-01-2004, 17:59
What's retarded is the fact that Ivan needs songs from fans etc... people because he himself nor the girls can write a thing.

What about Valeriy Polienko? He was the man! :done:

Lena410
31-01-2004, 18:31
Originally posted by staringelf
What about Valeriy Polienko? He was the man! :done:

:yes: I so agree with you! His is great! I'm not saying this because he's supposed to be slovakian :lalala: but because he's really good!! :D :coctail:

Unplugged
31-01-2004, 19:26
Yes, his lyrics are the best from t.A.T.u. :coctail:

Mad Debz
31-01-2004, 21:17
Originally posted by forre
Contest: Send A Song For t.A.T.u. - terms and conditions

11. The participant (or its representative) guarantees that the materials submitted for the contest are original and the usage of the materials doesn’t contradict any copyright, mutual or any other personal or material rights of the third party.

Hmmmmm, this is dodgy. Because if you write a song, it is copywrited to you. They are basically saying if you they use your song they don't want to give you a penny, just a tshirt?!. Ivan just doesn't want to pay a song writter. Copywrite your songs by posting them to yourself and not opening it. The date on the stamp proves who had the words first.

MD

itsme22
01-02-2004, 02:45
So the writer really doesn't get any royalties and we can't copyright the songs we wrote ourselves?

Quick Question: Did Polienko leave the group too? If he didn't, I don't see why they're looking for songs. Shap. probably doesn't want to pay him.

transcend
01-02-2004, 02:57
Originally posted by Mad Debz
Hmmmmm, this is dodgy. Because if you write a song, it is copywrited to you. They are basically saying if you they use your song they don't want to give you a penny, just a tshirt?!. Ivan just doesn't want to pay a song writter. Copywrite your songs by posting them to yourself and not opening it. The date on the stamp proves who had the words first.

MD

That's right, Debz. My first feeling when I saw this was that it just had to be a p*ss-take. Write us a worldwide smash and we'll send you a signed tshirt! Yeah, right. I would love to write a song for Tatu, but give up copyright - no way, baby! If this whole thing is kosher, Ivan is beyond redemption. A f**king signed tshirt for a song! Absolutely ludicrous!

freddie
01-02-2004, 03:52
Originally posted by staringelf
What about Valeriy Polienko? He was the man! :done:

Indeed!! I bet he got a whole BUNCH of nice shirts!! :D

QueenBee
01-02-2004, 03:56
But... I want signed underwear! :gigi:

haku
01-02-2004, 03:57
Originally posted by QueenBee
But... I want signed underwear!
LMAO! :D Signed strawberry panties... Now that would be something... :lalala:

freddie
01-02-2004, 04:08
Dunno about you guys but I'd rather have a signed Yulia! :D

QueenBee
01-02-2004, 04:13
freddie, I think you just upset the Lena fans REAL bad.. :none: Run for cover, they're gonna blow! :p

haku
01-02-2004, 04:19
Nah, that's ok, QueenBee. :)

freddie, Pasha may disagree with your idea though... :P

spyretto
01-02-2004, 06:48
Originally posted by transcend
That's right, Debz. My first feeling when I saw this was that it just had to be a p*ss-take. Write us a worldwide smash and we'll send you a signed tshirt! Yeah, right. I would love to write a song for Tatu, but give up copyright - no way, baby! If this whole thing is kosher, Ivan is beyond redemption. A f**king signed tshirt for a song! Absolutely ludicrous!

Maybe they just need inspiration, you know? Write us a song or a lyric and Shapovalov will make his own version, like a pastiche from all songs , so it'll be his own song.

What am I saying? :bum:

Originally posted by QueenBee
But... I want signed underwear! :gigi:

Used?

transcend
01-02-2004, 07:14
One would most sincerely hope so,

denial
01-02-2004, 09:57
http://podnebesnaya.rambler.ru/avi/tatu/Albums/DISK5/Track04.mp3


Something about this song. I think this guy took Ivan,Yulia and Lena voices from clips or anywhere and make it into song. This cool sound like TATU style.

Can someone tell what they say in the song? :lalala:

I heard robot, sex, harasho ...

Lena410
01-02-2004, 10:07
I'd love to have the signed strawberry pants with lena in them :gigi: :lalala:

well I don't know bout this contest and the T-shirts *shrugs* maybe shap is planning to really use them only as inspiration and rewrite them to the point that no one will recognise the original

Rivendell
01-02-2004, 14:15
http://podnebesnaya.rambler.ru/avi/...SK5/Track04.mp3


Something about this song. I think this guy took Ivan,Yulia and Lena voices from clips or anywhere and make it into song. This cool sound like TATU style.

Can someone tell what they say in the song?

I heard robot, sex, harasho ...

It`s the same song - Masturbirovala i konchala. You can find it on Alerg`s FTP.
But this one is also very similar to the 2. track - Sex on the album Duet-Taty. Actually there are some more cool remixes. Listen here:
http://www.rbcmp3.com/store/product.asp?dept%5Fid=26451&sku=33390

girl_into_music
01-02-2004, 16:50
I am coming up with the title for their second album...
"Sexed up Dossier"
It sounds scandalous and can be interpreted in many ways..
They can put in couple of songs about "war and peace" (to connect with the title) and the rest - whatever they want...

dollparts3000
01-02-2004, 17:44
I really like this song and this girls voice! I think she should record her own album and that she does not need tatu.
Does anybody know what she's saying? I like how it sounds phonetically. I think that her voice is really good but I would probably change the music track a little to make it more unique. Anyway, I've already listened to it atleast 10 times!!! I'm going to add it to my playlist. The people at Tatu could probably make the music track a little better but I like the passion and the catchiness of the song.

http://podnebesnaya.rambler.ru/avi/tatu/Albums/DISK3/Track02.mp3

There should be more about the artist. I would like to hear her other songs. Does anybody know who it is? Reminds me a little of 'Within Temptation' but it is more pop. I like how it's a mix between pop and rock. It would definitely fit Tatu's new image. It would be a perfect song for Yulia!!!!

dollparts3000
01-02-2004, 18:06
Mad Debz said:
"They are basically saying if you they use your song they don't want to give you a penny, just a tshirt?!. Ivan just doesn't want to pay a song writter. Copywrite your songs by posting them to yourself and not opening it. The date on the stamp proves who had the words first.


Having a song used by tatu looks really good on a resume and more importantly it allows you to get contacts and publicity. Who cares if you are being paid? It's just one song. Writers for feature films in North America don't get much money or credit. A lof of scripts for big budget features are sold for under $100,000 The film will make millions and the script is sold for that or less. A lot of action scripts are only sold for $10,000 - $20,000 Writers who are just starting out usually get less. My point is that writers rarely make big money anyway and there are millions of writers out there. Tatu has become a brand or a trademark. Songs that are given to them will most likely succeed. An unpublished song writer doesn't have very good odds at bringing a song to the top 10, no matter how good the song is. Usually, you need an artist who can carry the song and it takes some time for that artist to get a record deal. Tatu gives you that chance of bringing a song to the top 10. If a person doesn't have anything on their resume and wants to be a song writer, this would be a good contest to participate in. If you write a hit for tatu, what does that look like to investers or a record company. If you are an artist, they are probably going to be more likely to sign you. If you don't want to be an artist and just want to be a writer, it also looks great to record companies and big studios who are looking for writers.

Ooops sorry, didn't mean to post twice in a row!

freddie
01-02-2004, 20:21
I think writers in the west recieve a good portion of the profits. And the well known ones who have proven to be hit-writers are well respected and wanted by the biggest stars out there. The general public doesn't see them cause tehy're not in the spot-light. But that doesn't mean they're not present at all - ppl in the business know them well.
Besides an average pop-stars media life is from 2 to 6 years... writers can do stuff for dirrerent artists for decades if they so desire. And make a lot of money in the process as well.

dollparts3000
02-02-2004, 03:45
Freddie...ITA!!! It is a great opportunity for a song writer who has never released a hit and is not well known to participate in the contest and work for free. I'm not saying that song writers don't make good money. I'm saying that it is difficult to become established. It's about who you know. I think this contest gives unknown writers the possibility of making a hit song. It doesn't matter if you hand over the rights for you first hit song and do not profit because having one hit song, opens up all sorts of doors. I don't know what kind of pay song writers make but I know a lot about how much feature film writers and television writers are paid. They don't make that much unless they have recieved oscars or golden globes.

That's a good point that you raised about writers being able to profit through writing for different stars for decades but to profit a lot, you usually have to have made a couple of hits.

Kate
02-02-2004, 03:59
dollparts3000,I think this contest gives unknown writers the possibility of making a hit song. It doesn't matter if you hand over the rights for you first hit song and do not profit because having one hit song, opens up all sorts of doors. Especially when the writer's name is not mentioned on the album or anywhere near it.

denial
02-02-2004, 04:11
Originally posted by katbeidar
dollparts3000, Especially when the writer's name is not mentioned on the album or anywhere near it.

well ... they can sue and make noise in court and tabloids ...

freddie
02-02-2004, 08:38
Originally posted by dollparts3000
That's a good point that you raised about writers being able to profit through writing for different stars for decades but to profit a lot, you usually have to have made a couple of hits.

They can live pretty well of one single hit for the rest of their lives.... and many of them do. There are many one-hit wonders, but also many one hit wonder writers and they live of royalties quite well as well. You can't even imagine what money we're talking here. I'll give you an Example. Before Freddie Mercury joined Brian May and Roger Taylor to form Queen, Brian and Roger sang in a group called Smile, with this guy by the name of Tim Staffel. Tim wrote one song that later appeared on the first album of Queen (Doin' Alright). The album wasn't a smash hit, since it was their first album and neither was the song (not even a single)... and yet... Tim Staffelmanaged to live quite comfortably just because he wrote that one single song that was later performed by the famous band. Everytime he was in finantial difficulties the royalties from that one song helped him out of them. And that was s completely unknown song. Now imagine how much a writer of a worldwide smash hit must make!! We're ralking at least 6 figures per year. If not much more.

I undersatnd your point about the less known artist getting known by their work being published... but oyu have to draw the line somewhere. You have too see where pure exploitation is taking place... Ivan wouldn't even mention too who this song belongs, there'd be no credits, he's take all the royalties and writting credits... it's just not right. It reminds me of the 19th century liberal capitralism where you had to work for 20 hours, just cause you had no other choice in order to survive. :/


Originally posted by denial
well ... they can sue and make noise in court and tabloids ...

What would that help them? Ivan would have them sign a legal contract in which they'd waive any rights they may have regarding their own songs. They'd give up their rights by their own free will just to get published one way or another. And this is not right. Cause Ivan is exploiting his possition.

dollparts3000
02-02-2004, 17:19
Hello :) I have a question. Do you know for sure that Ivan won't give the song writer's credit? I think he will because there is proof that the song writer wrote the song (i.e. the tv show) He's taking away the rights and owning the rights of the song but as long as the artist get's credit, that's a good thing.

I understand your point of view where you say it is not right for Ivan "exploiting" the artists by forcing them to waive the rights to their songs just to get published and you may be right. However, I think differently. Ivan does not have to give any fan the chance of writing lyrics for t.a.t.u He does not need to get lyrics by means of a contest. If he really wanted to, I'm sure he could find other song writers that would work for peanuts, even with his reputation. Things are different in Russia. People will work for cheap. Ivan is creating this contest in order to get fan participation. Half the songs that are contributed aren't very good. He is spending money and time reviewing them. He is spending money and time fixing them up. If he had a professional writer working on the songs, he would have way less problems. It would make his job easier to hire a professional writer who would work for cheap (and be paid up front).


Also, most songwriters do not make one hit wonders that are sung for many generations or remade. This is a chance to make a hit. Every song writer can write a song but how many get the chance to write a song for one of the most popular and scandalous groups to come out in years? Most people do not have this chance. It's just one song. What else would you be doing? If you don't want them to use your song, don't send it in but there are thousands of people who don't care about "signing over their rights" because they realize that it is a great opportunity (ofcourse some are just obsessed fans who will do anything for tatu).

I agree with you that the fans that are being exploited are the extremely obsessed ones who will do anything for tatu but there are fans that are not exploited who have thought about the whole process rationally and come to the conclusion that it is a promissing opportunity.

BTW, I'm sure when Ivan actually decides to use a song, there will be a contract. Somebody should post the contract online. I also have one question, are many people that naive to think that they will profit from the song? If Ivan is deliberately misleading people into thinking that they will profit, I think that is wrong. But if he clearly states that the writer will only recieve credit, a t-shirt etc. than I don't think that is wrong. Misleading people is always wrong.

If people are willing participants (not obsessed fans who will do anything for tatu) and they realize that they will not profit, then it's not an issue of right or wrong or exploitation. It's like having a volunteer. Many filmmakers volunteer their services for feature films for free. They work 10 hour days for free. I realize this case is different because the volunteer is contributing a creative element. People also invest thousands of dollars into student films and do not profit. They often to this in order to have something to show to investors. (I don't think it's too smart but people do it)

itsme22
02-02-2004, 21:54
Someone should e-mail them or something and ask if they'll be credited if their song is chosen?

BTW, will they only be picking one song?

nasnedagoniat
02-02-2004, 22:53
I see now on the Skyroom website, it says that the winner(s) will actually recieve a fee and world recognition. It states this at the bottom of the page where you go to send an mp3.

dollparts3000
03-02-2004, 05:28
Cool! Well that is fair. I don't know why people are complaining if Ivan is paying them and giving them world recognition. Sounds pretty sweet. Sorry if I wrote so much above!

denial
03-02-2004, 07:01
Originally posted by Rivendell
It`s the same song - Masturbirovala i konchala. You can find it on Alerg`s FTP.
But this one is also very similar to the 2. track - Sex on the album Duet-Taty. Actually there are some more cool remixes. Listen here:
http://www.rbcmp3.com/store/product.asp?dept%5Fid=26451&sku=33390

Thank you Rivendell :rose: .. yes its the same song in track 2. But its longer ...

denial
03-02-2004, 07:03
Originally posted by dollparts3000
Cool! Well that is fair. I don't know why people are complaining if Ivan is paying them and giving them world recognition. Sounds pretty sweet. Sorry if I wrote so much above!

*points at Katbeidar* :none:

forre
03-02-2004, 17:21
One story made me think that the Contest will be for the moscovities only. Here is the story:

One of my acquaintances used to send poetry and music for different t.A.T.u. related competitions but never got a prise. This person is not from Moscow. Once this person wrote a Moscow address and won a cometition at once. Even a meeting with t.A.T.u. and a cellular phone. This time it was the case with Podnebesnaya. A man called this person to tell that the texts were great and that the person was welcome to come to the Pekin Hotel to show the music. The person specified a Moscow address again this time and got a jack-pot.

So, it's probably easier for the management to deal with people if they can be met personally and at once. That's why from Moscow. It was just one of my thoughts.

QueenBee
03-02-2004, 19:00
Bye, guys. *Moves to Moscow*.

That's interesting forre. :rose: And pretty unfair too...

coolasfcuk
03-02-2004, 19:06
Originally posted by forre
So, it's probably easier for the management to deal with people if they can be met personally and at once. That's why from Moscow. It was just one of my thoughts.
Well, I never believed they would pick for winners anyone that was even outside of Russia ... that's why I never even try submitting anything... besides the fact that i am lazy too :gigi: I never envisioned them flying me to a concert out of midwest USA :laugh: or to meet them for a little hello.... But it always sounded to me like those things were targeted towards the russian crowd.. and even Moscow crowd sounds more convincing... in fact I am surprised that they really pick winners and so on, wihch is great of course, for those who are in Russia and Moscow :coctail:

*starts writing down a list of Moskvichi i know.... for future reference, if I decided to actualy submit anything...to use their address... like a great gossip for example....have been considering submitting that* ha ha

QueenBee
03-02-2004, 19:13
Well, now that you mention it.. :ithink: Was there some kind of a message directed to the English fans aswell? Because the reality show is only shown in Russia.. So.. umm.. sounds kinda weird.

coolasfcuk
03-02-2004, 19:35
Originally posted by QueenBee
Well, now that you mention it.. :ithink: Was there some kind of a message directed to the English fans aswell? Because the reality show is only shown in Russia.. So.. umm.. sounds kinda weird.
well Queenski, I think there was something in English :spy: .. but actually i was talking about other contests.... like that submit a video with emotions, etc.....or send a pic in school unifor and you could've gone with tatu to their London gig... :laugh: .. well, there was no gig at the end, but still.... and i remember it said it only in russian, and it actually said that you would 'fly on the plane with tatu' ... which automaticaly made it sound like you gotta take off with them from Moscow... which right away made me thinks it is for russians, and i guess mainly Moscow people :gigi:

cirrus
03-02-2004, 20:49
like that submit a video with emotions, etc.....or send a pic in school unifor and you could've gone with tatu to their London gig...
send emotions video for Show Me Love contest... no SML video

send uniform pics for London gigs... no London gigs

send songs for 2nd album... MWAHAHAHA :smoke:

I hope Tatu aren't that predictable. It seems they're only focusing on Russia, so everyone else gets ignored for the time being. But what would happen if you gave a Moscow address, and they picked you?

haku
04-02-2004, 18:17
20 more demo songs have been added:

http://podnebesnaya.rambler.ru/songs/album.html?album=6

dollparts3000
05-02-2004, 01:30
My new favourite is:
http://podnebesnaya.rambler.ru/avi/tatu/Albums/DISK6/Track09.mp3

QueenBee
05-02-2004, 01:48
OMG... I will NEVER have time to download all of these songs..!

irish22
08-02-2004, 05:30
ok sorry to bother you forre but i may be having a brain died day but let me see if i get this right i send the lryics by email to podnebesnaya@rambler.ru then i go to http://podnebesnaya.rambler.ru/inside/konkurs.html and fill out the form there for the mp3 is that right. Also can someone send in more then one entry. and if no mp3 available just email the lyrics?


sincerley
kayla

forre
08-02-2004, 10:55
irish22, Yep, e-mail the lyrics to podnebesnaya@rambler.ru, and upload MP3 using the form under. Try several entries, I didn't see any limitations there.

haku
10-02-2004, 00:32
A 7th pack of songs has been added:
http://podnebesnaya.rambler.ru/songs/album.html?album=7

Since the album seems to be already recorded, why are they asking people to send songs? That doesn't make sense. :spy:

Kate
10-02-2004, 00:34
Does the album track list actually contain any songs sent in by fans?

:ithink:

denial
10-02-2004, 01:47
Originally posted by haku
A 7th pack of songs has been added:
http://podnebesnaya.rambler.ru/songs/album.html?album=7

Since the album seems to be already recorded, why are they asking people to send songs? That doesn't make sense. :spy:

For the NEXT album after the release of this album Haku ...or maybe they want to have special edition Fan songs album .. why not .. da.. everything is fine :coctail:

irish22
10-02-2004, 05:32
thank you very much forre you are always so helpful is it ok also to just send in lyrics?

dollparts3000
10-02-2004, 22:41
I was wondering if anyone used Propellerhead's reason to record their song? I don't think that the track listing is complete. They will probably need 3-4 more songs.

irish22
12-02-2004, 05:41
Propellerhead's reason to record their song ? what are you talking abuot

dollparts3000
13-02-2004, 22:00
It's software

Mute_Clouds
25-03-2004, 06:32
I like some of those songs, but it stinks looking through them to find a good one.