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forre
30-03-2003, 00:45
For those who want to try betting this year - here you go!
Don't let the experts rate the songs, do it yourself.

Rating - choose 10 best songs and give your points.
The official scoring system - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 12. The higher number, the better.

Download the entries in the running order: (pics and lyrics)

Iceland (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=is) | Austria (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=at) | Ireland (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=ie) | Turkey (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=tr) | Malta (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=mt) | Bosnia-H (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=ba) | Portugal (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=pt) | Croatia (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=hr)
Cyprus (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=cy) | Germany (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=de) | Russia (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=ru) | Spain (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=es) | Israel (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=il) | Netherlands (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=nl) | UK (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=uk) | Ukraine (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=ua) | Greece (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=gr)
Norway (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=no) | France (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=fr) | Poland (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=pl) | Latvia (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=lv) | Belgium (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=be) | Estonia (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=ee) | Romania (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=ro) | Sweden (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=se) | Slovenia (http://eurowizja.com/song.php?year=2003&id=si)

Thanks to eurowisija.com (Poland)

To download mp3: click (http://www.webbyen.dk/vishjemmeside_privat.asp?mode=top_frame&id=165504&side=&webside=1855914)

YLuelniaa
30-03-2003, 02:01
i have heard Icelands and Croatia's songs. Thanks for the others

crni
30-03-2003, 02:15
0 points for croatia!:D
it sux ass and it's just TOO similar to last year's.
and the girl's only 16...

|capricious|
30-03-2003, 11:32
When will t.A.T.u's song be able to hear?

forre
30-03-2003, 11:35
flu0525, when it's up.

|capricious|
30-03-2003, 11:41
And that will be? I mean isn't there any deadline or something?

forre
30-03-2003, 11:45
Deadline for all countries to transmit their entries (audio and video) to another participants is April 2. Then when the national stations decide to start airing them is another question. Germany's used to start early.

|capricious|
30-03-2003, 11:46
Okay, thanks for the information.

freddie
06-04-2003, 14:12
Thanks for the link forre :done:

I like Romania and despise Austria. Many songs are banal like always on Eurovision.

And of course: Ahhhhhh!!!!! I hate our song!!!!!! :mad: :mad: It's like Karmen Stavec thought that 80s synth trash-pop is still in fashion. Nanana? What kind of a song is that? And it sounds even worse in english than in slovenian. No Eurovision 2004 for us I'm affraid:(

Ne Ver' Ne boyse is in a class of it's own. Maybe I'm a little biased as a fan but I just can't see a better song (and almost the only one that carries a message across that isn't banal)

EeZeReal
06-04-2003, 15:16
Oh God......Id just like to say..that UK doesn't have a hope in hell of winning with this Jemini song..LmaO :no: :no:

vesica
06-04-2003, 17:58
I have to say, with no offence meant, that I laughed a good deal, reading lyrics and listening to songs.

Willow71
07-04-2003, 22:02
the videos on TRT have started! :)
Now and yet!
First time I watch turkish TV! :)

Watching now Austria's song... :D

spyretto
07-04-2003, 22:05
you know, only half of the videos will be shown tonight...
the online version is still showing a program about Africa though.

well, darje, it seems that you're in the other extreme. If to me them being a couple seems too incredulous, to you everything associated with Tatu, and I mean everything, everything they say or do is idealised in your eyes. Even when they call somebody crippled or deformed ;)

Willow71
07-04-2003, 22:09
spyretto, TRTint. Turkish TV, cable.
The half? Doesn't matter. Germany is No 10, Russia No 11 and Spain 12. :)
Now Ireland is shown.

spyretto
07-04-2003, 22:11
for some reason I'm still at number 4 (Turkey)

Ok, I'm off to watch now.
oh yeah it's the complete list of videos, not half..I was wrong

Willow71
07-04-2003, 22:19
spyretto, we are both at the same song. Now is Bosnia, No. 5. But I better stop now to explain which song I watch and hear... the admins will kill me... ;)

forre
07-04-2003, 22:26
IT's on webb air now! Run here http://wwitv.com/portal.htm
Choose Turkey and TRT - Turkish State Television Channel1. Tatu is coming soon!

Cyprus is ok I think, some very old pop but well, it's Eurovision.

Willow71
07-04-2003, 22:36
forre, tatu was a minute ago! :)
Now is Spain, and Spain is good - I must confess!
Ooopsss! ;)

Echoed
07-04-2003, 22:40
Well, crud. Lol. I missed 'em. ^_^ *Laughs.*

~Echo.

EeZeReal
07-04-2003, 22:42
Bah...to hell with this pc..

I was trying to keep up but once again good ol' 56k spoils my fun :(

spyretto
07-04-2003, 22:45
no it's starting again. I suspect Greece will give points to that Israeli song merely on the basis that they say "s'agapo" in the chorus. It's like it was written 30 years ago.

So far I liked iceland, Spain, Turkey, Cyprus and hmm Russia.

bgirlnikki
07-04-2003, 22:46
What does "s'agapo" mean?

spyretto
07-04-2003, 22:53
it means "I love you" ( what else could it mean? ;) )

I haven't listened to Norway's song before. Is it good?
France has an oriental touch, I haven't listened to that before either. The songs sounds a lot more decent than last year's contest. although that Polish guy right now is a bit painful to listen to ;)

spyretto
07-04-2003, 23:06
I haven't listened to that one either.
Belgium is a wild card. As I don't like the Eurovision pop much , I'd give them 10 or 12 points. But it could be a complete failure, of course.
I'd give Estonia a point or two..maybe

forre
07-04-2003, 23:10
spyretto, Sweden is next to the last one, in 5 minutes. It's a typical Eurovision, pure pop, some ABBA-rip off as usual, but it hits drectly. Belgium is stuck back in 1995 when ethno ruled.

Romanian vid is sooooo funny!!!! Hahahaha!!! Forre is rolling on the floor ...

Willow71
07-04-2003, 23:17
After watching and listening all songs... who is your favourite? Be honest! Okay: We love tatu, but...

spyretto
07-04-2003, 23:18
she wished ;)
Let me listen to all of them , I'll tell you in a minute. oh that's the one? (Sweden's ? ) It's very Abbaesque. did time stand still?
well, the whole Eurovision thing has struck back in the late 70s if you haven't noticed already ;)

forre
07-04-2003, 23:39
Hmmm ... falks, seriously! I doubt that t.A.T.u. wins. I'd say Spain, Iceland and UK will beat them without any problem. On the other hand Eurovision is very unpredictable. Any of the top entries slips on a tone and it's out, no matter how good it is.

vic3k
09-04-2003, 11:05
i dont know..i listened to half of them and that uk, spain and iceland. well i would see how tatu could loose coz their music is just not for the type of ppl who would be seeing this contest. myself i didn't find anything, absolutely nothing good in any entries.

Willow71
09-04-2003, 16:18
...Spain...

It's a more "popular" song. And I confess: I like it. It's catchy.

:D But of couse I will vote for Russian. But I predict Spain.

teeny
09-04-2003, 16:41
yeah, I predict spain too..
Haven't heard all of the tunes I must confess. I watched the entries between 3 and 12 on tnt.
And Spains weren't bad at all. The video was very nice too..

Can't vote, but I will hope for Russia though. Best song, and (I hope) best preformance.. :done:

spyretto
10-04-2003, 22:55
by the way, where has this thread disappeared?
ok, so far I'd vote like this:

10.France (1)
9.Cyprus (2)
8.Romania(3) (Is she Taylor Dayne in disguise? )
7.Norway (4)
6.Iceland (5)

And my favourite ones:

5. Spain (6)
4. Turkey(7)
3. Russia (8)
2. UK (10)
1. Belgium (12)

forre
13-04-2003, 12:43
My review: Part I

1. Iceland - an average well composed song. Running first and can be well forgotten by the end. Top 10. (top performance and it will win! Don't burry it yet!)
2. Austria - Oh yeh! They did it again! Excuse me? What's that? A theme for a cartoon? Bottom of the chart.
3. Ireland - never fails to sing live. Irish people can sing in the sleep. The song is not impressive though. Will probably end up as number 12-17.
4. Turkey - the national drums never work at Eurovision. Gives me a feeling of Shakira. Should score well from the neighbours and Germany of course.
5. Malta - sweet but boring. Early 90's. Will end up 15-20.
6. Bosnia-H - sounds a bit like the last year's winner. With a good performance, it shuld score a few points. 10-15.
7. Portugal - beautiful song in itself, but such songs don't work in the Eurovision anylonger. Bottom position. I don't believe the singer will hold the line either. Just a feeling.
8. Croatia - a very jumpy song. Can't imagine it being performed well enough in English. 20-26.
9. Cyprus - velvet voice, pure summer pop. Sunshine and dancing on the beach all the night! Top 10.
10. Germany - do I smell Ralf Siegel here? Right! A masterpiece from the contest's point of you. Once "the girl" gets enough stylist's work, she should win. It's possible.
11. Russia - can't judge this song objectively. I like t.A.T.u.'s style. Fame and fresh tunes should do its work. Top 5. Girls!!! Don't mess up the performance! Keeping my fingers crossed.
12. Spain - a modern Eurovision pop. Very even structure, great voice and with some latino moves it can win. Top 3!
13. Israel - pressing the stop button after 20 seconds. "Israel - 0 points".

forre
13-04-2003, 13:17
My review: Part II

14. Holland - nothing too new and nothing too old. Should do rather well. Top 10.
15. UK - pop-pop-pop. The duo looks good on stage. United Kingdom - 5 points. Top 10.
16. Ukraine - welcome to Eurovision Ukraine! They watched Eurovision on the TV and seem to pick up the basic rules. position 10-13.
17. Greece - an average Eurovision. Crying, heartbreaking and anonymous. Will be forgotten with the last tune. Position 22-26.
18. Norway - a sweet song, a sweet guy who can sing. Will he be nervous in Riga? - Yes. And finally 12 points from Sweden goes to Norway! Neighbours, you know... psss. The song is good. position 12-15.
19. France - I like this song. Is it something wrong with me? Probably. Position 15-20.
20. Poland - ah, I'm old and senile and like national anthems! Top 10 or last or top 5? I have no idea!
21. Latvia - a pro trio with a pro song. A lightning never hits the same tree twice. Nevertheless top 10!
22. Belgium - ethno is a history. No way! position 20.
23. Estonia - What happened with Estonia? Lack of new ideas? This is boring and awful. Position 18-21.
24. Romania - at last Romania comes with something European and well composed. Not enough to win the whole contest though. Position 10-16.
25. Sweden - ABBA is back and it always works. Have I heard this song before? Of course. Recognizable, and perfectly constructed and professionally produced. Top 5.
26. Slovenia - dangerous, dangerous! Top 7.

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On 24th May this predisction will proove to be wrong! He-he-he.
It's all about the performance. See you all in Riga!

freddie
13-04-2003, 14:50
26. Slovenia - dangerous, dangerous! Top 7.

Are you kidding me?:D This is synth-pop that died in the late 80s. This song reminds me of the 1986 winner by "Sandra Kim" - "J'aime La Vie" (I was only 6 years old then)
The music tastes have moved on from then. Although Karmen has a great singing voice live. But the lyrics make me psycally sick. :dead:

My vote go to Romania (you're right spyretto, she's a Taylor Dayne wannabie:D ), Spain (but it lacks the drive to push it to the top), Sweden (Wa wa wa wa wateroo;) ) and of course Russia (12 points from Poland, Chech Rep, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Romunia, Ukraine, possibly some foormer Yulgoslavian counties - not us 'though, our 12 points are by tradition reserved for Croatia).

I personaly belive that Austria should be banned from Eurovision forever.:D

spyretto
13-04-2003, 15:07
Actually I only listen to the songs I like. I can't stand the cheesy ones like Holland, the awful ones like Austria, the stupid ones like Germany.
I'm not so sure you'd score top 5, forre. People in ESC forums are already hating the song ;)
Why Abba, next time they'd do something sounding like Roxette or Ace of Base. There're so many good acts that have come from Sweden.

I'm returning Dime at the top 5, at the expense of Iceland . You see? I placed Tatu at number 3 - and you're telling me that I'm a basher!

Ethnic is definitely not dead. They were saying the same things about metal and look where it is now. Anyway, the whole Eurovision is a gathering of ethnicities, innit?

Germany: she's not a "girl", she's an old hag. I'm not Tatu, I can say that can't I? It's an acquired taste that song and I don't have it :hmmm:

But yeh, I won't be shocked if Sweden, or Germany win Eurovision. Or even Tatu, for that matter.

forre
13-04-2003, 20:06
spyretto,

Germany: she's not a "girl", she's an old hag.
She certainly is.

I was taking the start position into my review too. The latter the better. Another thing I was taking into the calculation is the average age of the televoters which is 35. And what those ones will be doing on the Saturday night (24th May)? Drinking beer and voting! Likely. So Eurovision is about a strategy!

spyretto
14-04-2003, 14:53
but maybe we should be looking for another surprising song to win it? This one seems plain stupid. ;)
Or it could just be Tatu because of excessive speed ?
And what about Dime? Dime is quite a pleasant song and many people prefer it. It heads the polls as well. Well, who knows?

I remember kicking myself watching that Estonian song win over Antique 2 years ago. I was thinking what on earth is that? at least it could have been a nicer song. and the year before, those two brothers, just ordinary. I preferred Brainstorm, of course. Those brothers' song was something like Ireland's song this year.
Luckily last year's winner was nice and I remember that I was overwhelmed and surprised by her performance as many people did. And it's still a nice song/great performance.

The performance lifted the song.

btw, which chorus the Ukrainian song copies almost shamelessly? I know it for sure but it just eludes me.
It's not the worst song though, there're lots more boring.
Why would Sweden and Holland do anything when there's another song in the same style, which is much better (Iceland's ). without saying that they're bad songs, just mediocre. Sweden's a bit better than Holland's - I think...maybe
But both are sooooo cheesy :)

L_Katina
23-04-2003, 18:33
guys...being thick...whens eurovision again...forgotten!....will rite in diary!!!!!!!

KillaQueen
27-04-2003, 22:40
Originally posted by forre
Romanian vid is sooooo funny!!!! Hahahaha!!! Forre is rolling on the floor ...

whaa?? what is it about??? i haven't seen it yet... what's in it?? what's that woman doing??? :lalala::dknow:

forre
27-04-2003, 23:07
KillaQueen, You HAVE to see it! The girl was unfolding slogans like that "I want to win the Eurovision Contest" bla, bla, bla ... The video was so funny - positively funny. The best video among all sent in videos for preview.

KillaQueen
29-04-2003, 00:51
Originally posted by forre
KillaQueen, You HAVE to see it! The girl was unfolding slogans like that "I want to win the Eurovision Contest" bla, bla, bla ... The video was so funny - positively funny. The best video among all sent in videos for preview.

HAHAHAHAHA!!! thank you, forre :rose:
that's pretty strange because this woman is like quite serious, married with kids... never knew she was this funny??? lol she's really down to earth so i dunno why she made that vid like that??? lol... the poor thing cried her heart out when she won the national selection... aww... lol
i am probably gonna see it soon cos they are starting to introduce us to this year's participants on a Ro tv channel... on Thursday they're gonna show tATu's vid :)

-miha
30-04-2003, 21:34
Originally posted by forre
8. Croatia - a very jumpy song. Can't imagine it being performed well enough in English. 20-26.
the song's much better in English than in Croatian... *sings* I can't be your lover, what we had is over... :D

-miha
01-05-2003, 06:38
Originally posted by freddie
our 12 points are by tradition reserved for Croatia
:laugh: you're too good :laugh:

forre
23-05-2003, 22:59
I'll strongly recommend to bet on Turkey and t.A.T.u.

freddie
24-05-2003, 01:15
I'll strongly recommend to bet on Turkey and t.A.T.u.

I did it, I did it:D

Hope tatu wins me my 24 beers :D

russkayatatu
21-06-2003, 14:10
Originally posted by forre

6. Bosnia-H - sounds a bit like the last year's winner. With a good performance, it shuld score a few points. 10-15.
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I listened to some of last year's Eurovision entries (haven't gotten to them all yet) - don't you mean it sounds like Russia's "Northern Girl"? It does to me, anyway.

Btw, only listened to "I Wanna" once but thought it sucked big time. It won?! :eek: At least this last year I liked a lot of the songs - and the ones I liked did well :)

Sorry to bump this old, outdated thread, have just been trying to do some homework ;)