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Argos
27-08-2011, 19:54
After shooting the cinematic masterpiece in Belarus, Volkova will return to the studio to continue recording the vocal tracks of the single. Guess we will get it 'very soon'. :laugh:

EsseAmaAquele
27-08-2011, 20:18
After shooting the cinematic masterpiece in Belarus, Volkova will return to the studio to continue recording the vocal tracks of the single. Guess we will get it 'very soon'. :laugh:

:D I think Argos should be part of management or TeamVolkova :D
At least here we are free, as in the "Cosmos"

fanoff
27-08-2011, 21:15
Eh? I'm confused? Where did I call Julia a liar????

You did not, but some people there would tell you so.

michael
27-08-2011, 23:34
The zombies look impressive

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h4tXVoeRfOE/TlhF4yc7saI/AAAAAAAAARE/flaTLtOjjNk/x_8d8e5916.jpg

Please someone tell me this is a spoof....:blabla:

obez17
27-08-2011, 23:40
I actually brought up this debate on there and while I did see some negative responses, there were also people that supported my argument. A lot of people just defended Julia immediately. I just think that if your official update says late August, it should happen in late August. If her official update said "soon", there would be no issue here. :)

Slayer
28-08-2011, 01:24
What a load of bollocks.:done:

Argos
28-08-2011, 10:57
I just think that if your official update says late August, it should happen in late August. If her official update said "soon", there would be no issue here. :)
It depends when exactly the information has been released and what happened since then. It's possible that the shooting of the movie came surprisingly sudden and so moved dates, or that people from the label told her to 'polish' the vocal tracks before release. A professional management is aware of false dates given, and corrects them in time, but we know that she doesn't even have a working one. Anyway, a postponement of a few weeks isn't a drama.

michael
28-08-2011, 11:24
^ My memory is that Julia mentioned the movie before the press release emerged.

Anyway the official line is that August date came from the record label, and the decision to delay for further vocal recordings was made only in the last few days. It seems that she is expected to have time to commute back to Moscow for the recordings while the filming continues.

Looking back certainly Julia herself never mentioned anything other than "soon" in her more recent personal messages.

Argos
28-08-2011, 11:41
^
Anyway, it's not uncommon that two projects at the same time often stirr up dates. Wonder, who calls himself/herself Yuyla's manager at the moment. Probably nobody feels appointed. :D

michael
28-08-2011, 12:29
I think David Junk is still the "World Manager".

No official word on identity of Russian manager but the fans who met her in Moscow, said she mentioned someone - I forget the name they gave it began with a B, but Schlachover and Tityanko seem to be out of the frame now as far as I can make out.

Ironically most of the publicity announcements seem to be coming from the English speaking side - the Russian fans seem to be getting official news via her English forums at the moment. It's not really clear what (if any) of a Russian speaking PR engine she has at the moment.

Argos
28-08-2011, 13:19
No official word on identity of Russian manager but the fans who met her in Moscow, said she mentioned someone - I forget the name they gave it began with a B...
No, it's not Boris! :laugh:
...the Russian fans seem to be getting official news via her English forums at the moment. It's not really clear what (if any) of a Russian speaking PR engine she has at the moment.
That is exactly my impression. Pretty much every information comes from overseas via the forums, a Russian PR management doesn't exist. :confused:

Not exactly on topic, but maybe interesting. Yulya's ex (maybe you remember - Parviz Yasinov) has been arrested for organizing an assault on the daughter of the ambassador Mihail Barschevskij.

Slayer
29-08-2011, 00:48
It seems the people who really hate t.A.T.u. are the fans, this forum is proof of that. There is a fine line between constructive criticism or not agreeing with someone does and just plain insulting them and everyone here crosses that line a lot. Lena uploads a video of a puppy? Half the forum is going to call her lazy and accuse her of not working hard because she's not working 24 hours a day every day. New pictures of Yulia? Half the forum will call her and ugly b~tch because of her lips, or whatever else she's had done.

No new song? Complaints that the girls are unprofessional and aren't working hard enough
New song? Complaints about how terrible the song is

No news? Everyone says they don't care about their fans
News? People relentlessly criticize whatever the bit of news is about.

f**in hypocrites what ever happened to being supportive of the people you once loved ??? huh? :3

thegurgi
29-08-2011, 17:01
Slayer, you describe pretty much how the public reacts to everything. It's always either never enough or too much.... I can guarantee after the correspondence I just had many of these folks will be eating their words. totally unexpected stuff coming up. the delay seems definitely worth it ...

Slayer
29-08-2011, 19:41
the delay seems definitely worth it ...
Spoken like a true fan mate:coctail:

fanoff
29-08-2011, 19:47
Slayer, he knows what's coming up. He's from Team Volkova.

thegurgi
30-08-2011, 03:40
Slayer, he knows what's coming up. He's from Team Volkova.

not really ... but i'm connected in ways to know that stuff is happening cause I may be involved down the line. It's work so I can't say anything else about it - other than that sometimes all this pessimism and outrageous negativity while I know their working their butts off, FOR YOU, is a little unnerving. But it's the nature of the business... it's just tough to acclimate to this high a publicity level for a project. famous clients - it's fun but stressful sometimes.

fanoff
30-08-2011, 06:53
not really ... but i'm connected in ways to know that stuff is happening cause I may be involved down the line. It's work so I can't say anything else about it - other than that sometimes all this pessimism and outrageous negativity while I know their working their butts off, FOR YOU, is a little unnerving. But it's the nature of the business... it's just tough to acclimate to this high a publicity level for a project. famous clients - it's fun but stressful sometimes.

Juliavolkova.com is a well done website. So it's cool.

Argos
30-08-2011, 18:10
It seems the people who really hate t.A.T.u. are the fans, this forum is proof of that.
You are pretty random with this. Maybe some bad food?
There is a fine line between constructive criticism or not agreeing with someone does and just plain insulting them and everyone here crosses that line a lot.
Don't charge others if you just mean yourself! :laugh: This forum has been pretty modest with criticism lately, so what's the reason for your cant? And 'constructive criticism' - two foreign words in a row with a meaning, purposeful like 'round corner' or 'true lie'...
f**in hypocrites
Hypocrite would be if I don't like what I get, but glorify it, just because I am in a forum dedicated to an artist. You should learn to use foreign words correctly before you use them against other forum members here! I recommend 'Webster's New Encyclopedic Dictionary'.
sometimes all this pessimism and outrageous negativity while I know their working their butts off, FOR YOU, is a little unnerving.
Ok, to put it simple. It's only the product that counts in real business. If the customer is not satisfied he will complain. If I buy a new car and I have troubles with it all the time, I don't give a sh** if the guys worked their butts off, FOR ME, so unjust and heartless.

So, what do we have from Volkova the last couple of years or so? Two new boring songs under phonogram, with weak lyrics and uninspired arrangements, a few embarrassing appearances on some TV shows, one or two (very old) tatu songs in duet with another far more professional singer - playback again of course, a new lover who looks even more deranged than the former, and some face corrections which make her look like a porn star in her latest years of activity. I don't know if this is satisfying for a fan who is not a hypocrite. If her work progress doesn't show a significant move in some more promising direction, I would recommend to her what Artemij Troitskij did many years ago (Podnebesnaya) - take a rich guy and have many children, if she didn't already follow his advice.

So, now there is reason to complain about forum members' plain insulting, pessimism and outrageous negativity!

michael
30-08-2011, 20:00
Julia is back in the studio tomorrow, recording new vocals for the single.

thegurgi
30-08-2011, 21:26
So, what do we have from Volkova the last couple of years or so? Two new boring songs under phonogram, with weak lyrics and uninspired arrangements, a few embarrassing appearances on some TV shows, one or two (very old) tatu songs in duet with another far more professional singer - playback again of course, a new lover who looks even more deranged than the former, and some face corrections which make her look like a porn star in her latest years of activity. I don't know if this is satisfying for a fan who is not a hypocrite. If her work progress doesn't show a significant move in some more promising direction, I would recommend to her what Artemij Troitskij did many years ago (Podnebesnaya) - take a rich guy and have many children, if she didn't already follow his advice.

So, now there is reason to complain about forum members' plain insulting, pessimism and outrageous negativity!

I'm surprised to see you lash out like this on, what is essentially, a 26 year old girl who left her former management and is trying, with no money, to do something with her career. Can we have no fucking benefit of the doubt? It doesn't matter how many times we say that she only released those demos because the fans were demanding to hear them. Julia only recorded them as essentially practice in the studio and her English. I was in the studio with her when they played Stand Up for her and the laundry list of changes she had, that were never made, was extremely long. As I said, it's tough with a high profile client because it's no longer this person i've never met before - this is someone i've had dinner with, sat on a couch with, talked on the phone with, emailed, worked with... and it's seems so fucking easy for ya'll to say these things. For me it's a bit more personal now... and I can see how for some old fans it still is. So let's just wait... for Julia and for her new management team it's learning game. We weren't fans of some well oiled machine - we were Tatu fans.... a band from Russia. I don't know why we ever expect any sort of stability... i'd also like to state that the amount I take any of the criticisms I see on these boards is very little. I understand and relate to where it all comes from - I merely have a new perspective now.

fanoff
31-08-2011, 00:07
Ah, never heard this one! Yulia singing the n.A.T.o. song Chorjavon. Probably from Podnabesnoy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcUhAd1qud4

Argos
31-08-2011, 21:15
I'm surprised to see you lash out like this on, what is essentially, a 26 year old girl who ...
Haha Greg, that wasn't even a decent warm-up for a rant if I had the intention, just a hint how a real 'outrageous negativity' may look like, if it existed on this forum. :D

Nevertheless, the fact is that there is not much work progress visible at the moment. It's only natural that there is little positive echo from the fans. Yulya isn't an aging rock star, who has released already a dozen albums, with grey-haired fans who can wait a few more years for the next album. Her fans are young and not so patient, but if she can prove that she can do something worth the long waiting, the pessimistic mood will be gone.

... is trying, with no money, to do something with her career.
I've seen her villa she currently lives with her goldhamster. I'm full of tears how far she has come down the social ladder. :p No, no! That argument doesn't count. I've seen people with really no money and no connection to the biz, who achieved much more in a two year period. There was a lot of engine idling in her solo career so far, and if she wants to become successful she needs some considerable speed-up of her train.

FiorE
01-09-2011, 23:46
:D I think Argos should be part of management or TeamVolkova :D
At least here we are free, as in the "Cosmos"




jajaja OH YEAH!!!:coctail:

Land Volkova is like living in cuba saying sth against Fidel or castro Brothers will lead you to jail in julia´s land is... YOUR POST has being deleted/edited

"some post have been removed cause it says BAD thing about our GODDES Yulia"

thegurgi
03-09-2011, 03:25
I've seen her villa she currently lives with her goldhamster. I'm full of tears how far she has come down the social ladder. :p No, no! That argument doesn't count. I've seen people with really no money and no connection to the biz, who achieved much more in a two year period. There was a lot of engine idling in her solo career so far, and if she wants to become successful she needs some considerable speed-up of her train.

haha - i can admit the girl should've been working harder these past few months but in terms of these past two years i can put it anecdotally: We were interviewing her to get content for her website and I was heartbroken when i asked her if it was difficult being taken away from her children to work and she said something like 'no... i didn't get time to bond - they just went straight to my mom. now i want to be them to make up for that time.' of course it was said in much worse english... she's getting better there too. She's also been, apparently from my sources, been seeing a vocal coach to improve the damage to her voice. She has been working - on herself. I think someone who worked for 10 years like mad and with that much damage deserves some time to stop. Lena survived the ideal - if not with a bad bout of stockholm syndrome. Julia is recovering from a lot of bad mistakes ... some she's admitted to to those she cares to. It's not really the fans place to get that personal with her - but there's plenty to be excited about. You're going to hear it all really soon. I know the producers had dragged their feet in terms of the additional vocals - so i don't know what to think in terms of them finishing it - but it shouldn't be too long. I really don't know much cause there's some confusion about who's gonna get to do single artwork....

Vicente
03-09-2011, 05:29
thegurgi, can you tell us if she will release CD single or just a digital single?

thegurgi
03-09-2011, 21:01
thegurgi, can you tell us if she will release CD single or just a digital single?
digital. totally digital.

Vicente
04-09-2011, 05:54
Thank you!

michael
11-09-2011, 20:58
It seems that Julia will be doing the soundtrack for her zombie movie masterpiece.

https://www.facebook.com/JuliaVolkovaOfficial/posts/271824552836258

sakuya
11-09-2011, 21:11
This actually might be good. First good news for awhile from that camp.

Argos
11-09-2011, 21:16
Two reasons to watch the movie. :)

RowerB
11-09-2011, 22:23
Sounds good. Thanks for posting, michael,

little_polar_bear
12-10-2011, 19:55
This looks also quite nice.

JULIA VOLKOVA OF t.A.T.u. ANNOUNCES SOUTH AMERICAN TOUR
Performing Debut Solo Single “All Because Of You” and The Best of t.A.T.u.

12 October, 2011 – Julia Volkova, the famously sexy brunette of the provocative and controversial Russian duo t.A.T.u., will embark on a South American tour in November to celebrate the release of debut solo single “All Because Of You”.

Beginning in Rio de Janeiro on 17 November at Circo Voador the South American tour will extend across 6 cities of South America. Cities announced today include Rio de Janeiro, Belo Horizonte, São Paulo, Santiago, Florianopolis and Fortaleza.

This tour will see Julia performing songs spanning her dynamic and exciting career, from t.A.T.u.’s debut single “All The Things She Said” to her own debut solo single, “All Because Of You”, as well as a selection of the greatest hits in between. Highlights of the tour include “All About Us”, “Friend or Foe” and a new interpretation of the fan-favorite, “Prostie Dvizheniya” (Simple Motions), the Russian language single which has not been performed live in concert since 2004.

Volkova’s South American tour is produced by Casa da Musica, a company responsible for bringing some of the most successful international artists to South America.

Tickets for Rio de Janeiro and Santiago are on sale now. Tickets for the remaining cities will go on sale at TicketBrasil.com.br.

17 November Rio de Janeiro
18 November Belo Horizonte
19 November São Paulo
20 November Santiago (Chile)
23 November Florianopolis
25 November Fortaleza


source: http://www.juliavolkova.com/eng/2011/julia-to-tour-south-america/
as events listed here: http://www.juliavolkova.com/eng/events/


Those are probably small disco venues, but it's a little start and I hope she'll have fun. I don't know more than anybody else, but I guess it's true that Yulia wasn't very keen on working her ass off (starting in 2007 and Lena is very right if she recently stated that it is difficult to be with Yulia - Yulia knows that), but the situation seems a bit different now and after all, she should have fun doing what she does and then she can continue. Shooting the movie was a great experience for her and she'll figure out eventually if all that trouble for her solo singing career is worth it in the end. She has a lot of potential and she might be doing many things. But she needs to focus on one thing (that's the tricky part) and her team is doing a better job with the facebook page now. Let's see where they're heading to and if this little tour will be a success. If she really wants it, she will go for it, but in my impression she hasn't yet reached that state, she needs to be motivated and not forced. Pressure won't be very helpful.

fanoff
12-10-2011, 20:45
I wonder how many of them will be cancelled at the last minute. Probably all?

regigigas1505
13-10-2011, 00:22
Well, I'm going to see her! She's coming to my city and it's not going to be expensive. Of course I'd be going CRAZY if it was Lena, but it's still fine, I guess.

It's true what little polar bear said -- the venue isn't the biggest in my city, but it's still a very good one. But she's going to more important places in Rio and Sao Paulo. Also, people in Sao Paulo are VERY excited, it seems many of them are going to attend. In my city, however, I don't see the same excitement, but I still think there're going to be many people because I know many fans from all over my state.

Well, count on me to record it! I hope she does a great job. Good luck for her.

podnebesnya
13-10-2011, 07:30
I wonder how many of them will be cancelled at the last minute. Probably all?

Lol, I have a feeling that disappointment is quite possible

obez17
14-10-2011, 03:33
I think everyone knew she would sing t.A.T.u. songs. What a joke. I AM excited to hear Prostiye Dvizheniya though! :)

Talyubittu
15-10-2011, 02:20
If both of them are going to just tour randomly and sing t.A.T.u. songs why don't both of them just join up again? Maybe if they take their new work and attempt it together we'll see something worth while.

Starrgurl
15-10-2011, 10:00
Because the girls don't get along much anymore, which is a shame. Especially since Yulia can't sing anymore and if she's doing tATu songs how does she expect to get away with lip syncing Lena's parts? Oh, I know- she'll have the audience sing Lena's parts. And her own parts too. In fact, the entire tATu portion of the concert will be the audience singing while Yulia stands on stage.

RowerB
15-10-2011, 10:53
I’m pleased Yulia will sing tatu songs. I hope she includes Nichya.

Talyubittu
15-10-2011, 20:12
Because the girls don't get along much anymore, which is a shame. Especially since Yulia can't sing anymore and if she's doing tATu songs how does she expect to get away with lip syncing Lena's parts? Oh, I know- she'll have the audience sing Lena's parts. And her own parts too. In fact, the entire tATu portion of the concert will be the audience singing while Yulia stands on stage.

I wish I could R+ you for this.

regigigas1505
16-10-2011, 01:19
This "they can't sing t.A.T.u." stuff really is a strange thing to read from fans... We all know they don't have enough solo material (even if they use an entire CD), for example. Also, I would hate to go to their solo gigs without watching they perform some t.A.T.u. material.

Back in the time, I remember a lot of fans criticized Lena for singing ATTSS and everything -- I was shocked! And, then, Yulia said all that stuff... And now she obviously will sing t.A.T.u. stuff 'cause the smart people behind her probably explained to her it's, like, a must.

About Yulia's voice: I do believe she can sing to an extent, but it depends on her personal efforts. There are -- a few, of course -- t.A.T.u. gigs (D&M era) where she sang really well IMO, like that one where they met Fergie (red square something, I guess), and the one at Santa Monica (?) right after they released Beliy Plaschik (before they shot 220 and Yulia started pumping her lips). So, I do believe she can still do it right. The problem is: I still don't know if she cares. Maybe, she'll just limp synch. Let's see... We'll all see for ourselves!

podnebesnya
16-10-2011, 03:08
This "they can't sing t.A.T.u." stuff really is a strange thing to read from fans... We all know they don't have enough solo material (even if they use an entire CD), for example. Also, I would hate to go to their solo gigs without watching they perform some t.A.T.u. material.

Back in the time, I remember a lot of fans criticized Lena for singing ATTSS and everything -- I was shocked! And, then, Yulia said all that stuff... And now she obviously will sing t.A.T.u. stuff 'cause the smart people behind her probably explained to her it's, like, a must.

About Yulia's voice: I do believe she can sing to an extent, but it depends on her personal efforts. There are -- a few, of course -- t.A.T.u. gigs (D&M era) where she sang really well IMO, like that one where they met Fergie (red square something, I guess), and the one at Santa Monica (?) right after they released Beliy Plaschik (before they shot 220 and Yulia started pumping her lips). So, I do believe she can still do it right. The problem is: I still don't know if she cares. Maybe, she'll just limp synch. Let's see... We'll all see for ourselves!

I think the best live performance they had was at G.A.Y.
Yulia's voice is very unique and if used right (like it had been in the 1st & 2nd albums, the 3rd both of them sounded horrible) the songs will be amazing. Of course, the demos we have (Rage, WATWD) don't do her voice justice, but they are just demos. I hope her voice in her first single sounds unique & special like we all love.

podnebesnya
18-10-2011, 00:06
New post on Julia's FB

Hello everyone! How much I have missed you all, how many things have happened during this time! I had a huge photo shoot for the movie, this week we are flying to shoot a video and to partake in new business, I am so happy! Everything is just starting. On October 26th, I am going to America for a concert and for a business meeting! I love you guys very much! Wait a couple days, soon everything will happen!

regigigas1505
20-10-2011, 14:03
So, the brazilian press is heavily promoting Yulia's visit to my country. There's also a new interview to a blog, which I just translated.

Original: http://www.cdbrasil.com.br/blog/2011/10/19/julia-volkova-no-brasil/

CD Brasil: Being with t.A.T.u. for 10 years, what did you learn from Lena Katina?
JV: You learn how to listen, understand, support and care -- it was a lifetime experience.

CDB: You've announced 6 performances in Latin America. How do you feel coming back here after 6 years?
JV: I love Latin America a lot and I have many fans there! I would like to see them all.

CDB: After Gay Day's cancellation, are you going to prepare some surprises for your brazilian fans?
JV: I really want to meet my fans while I'm there and get to know more about their lives.

CDB: About All Because of You -- what should fans expect?
JV: I, together with my team, came to think about a great idea for the video and I think my fans are gonna love it.

CDB: Tell us about Fear Mongers.
JV: It's my first main role and it was a surreal experience, very interesting -- beautiful picture! I'm gladly waiting for the release.

CDB: Are you recording songs for your solo album?
JV: I don't think about the album just yet. Now, I'm working on my singles; I'm in this process of recording new songs.

CDB: Do you follow Lena Katina's work? What do you think about her solo career?
JV: I'd rather not answer.

CDB: OK. What are your favourite artists and songs? Why?
JV: I really like Adele, Lady Gaga, Amy Winehouse -- a lot of good modern music!

CDB: Do you know anything about our culture? Is there anything you can't wait to see or do here?
JV: I'm especially interested in meeting my fans again!

Starrgurl
23-10-2011, 02:41
Sounds like a typical Yulia interview. I'm glad she's at least learning to keep her mouth shut about Lena.

little_polar_bear
01-11-2011, 16:22
Just a minor remark here, but I was stumbling over Tityanko's facebook profile and found out that she has given birth to a baby-boy in September, I think. The baby's father is a certain Nikita Nagibin. Sasha is still in contact with Polienko, Galoyan and of course Volkova - on and off facebook.

regigigas1505
01-11-2011, 20:56
I didn't understand a word, little_polar_bear! lol

Anyways, "Ego", brazilian's most popular celebrity website, just posted an article about Yulia.

http://ego.globo.com/famosos/noticia/2011/11/por-onde-anda-julia-volkova-uma-das-meninas-do-ttu.html

"What is Julia Volkova, one of the t.A.T.u. girls, doing now?"

It basically tells t.A.T.u.'s story very lightly and brings an interview with Yulia. She said Boris Renski decided to break up the duo -- she didn't leave. Now that's new! Also, she says she thought about coming back together with Lena as a duo but now she's a little upset about the Never Forget video, 'cause "it's difficult to come back when you're buried", in her words.

Either a smart move or she's telling the truth. hmm

Oh, she also says she's opening a bar. No mention of where and when. And she says cute stuff about the fans.

It also reads in the page: "Julia Volkova's still a very beautiful girl". I couldn't help but laugh and then cry insanely, sorry. :confused:

Argos
01-11-2011, 22:23
The baby's father is a certain Nikita Nagibin
...the stylist (I thought he is still married to Masha Tsigal', the model and designer, Well, at least he is a fertile stylist. :D ). Why am I not surprised? He created the styling of Volkova's one and only solo performance.
She said Boris Renski decided to break up the duo -- she didn't leave.
Well, there is a Lena Katina truth, a different Yulya Volkova truth and certainly an own Boris Renskij truth...and above all - the only real truth: Who cares who finally buried the project, which was already dead a long time before?

RowerB
01-11-2011, 23:40
Thanks for the link and the translation, regigigas1505.

thelastblossom
04-11-2011, 19:55
It also reads in the page: "Julia Volkova's still a very beautiful girl". I couldn't help but laugh and then cry insanely, sorry. :confused:


LOL :D

Slayer
04-11-2011, 23:52
Full translation i hope it's accurate :o
Teens, beautiful e. .. lesbians. It was with this image and his partner Julia Volkova and Lena Katina, fell into the graces of the public in early 2000 to form the duo "tATu". Worldwide success with hits like "All The Thing She Said" and "Not Gonna Get Us", the Russians have broken taboos by becoming the first team 'lesbian' world famous, even without ever taking anything beyond friendship.

Picture of one of the most successful phases of tATu
(Reuters)
Everything was going well until Julia pregnant with her first child in 2004, showing that the romance between the two did not exist. Even with the revolt of some fans, the girls continued to make successful and abused the controversy back to the music scene with the song "All About Us." In the music video, they try to reconcile after all the news that the pair had finished.
Six years have passed and they portrayed in that video clip really happened in early 2011: the double over. Now, Julia invests in his solo career and has six shows scheduled this month in Brazil. In an interview with EGO, revealed that she wants time to explore each city by Brazilian to go:
"I've been in Brazil with tATu and really liked it. I remember it was very exciting, the fans were incredible. I hope this time have more time to experience the beauty of each city. I love you."
Unlike what was then the "tATu," Julia has invested in a new type of lighter sound, but promises not to disappoint the fans: "I started with rock, but realized it was too heavy for my audience, we are now trying dance-pop-rock. "
End of Partnership
Even with more than 10 year career and many successes, Julia revealed that the idea of ​​separation did not leave them, but the entrepreneur of the pair. "Boris Renski made the decision, but we all realize that we had grown and it was time to stop and move on. He is still manager of the Lena."

Lena used a stunt 'dead' Julia to represent
the end of the double in his first solo music video
(Photo: Youtube / Playback)
Shortly after the announcement of the separation, Julia stopped short of declaring that they could come back in ten years, but after seeing the first video for Lena, in which she kills and buries the 'double' singing the refrain "never forget you," Julia was upset and changed his mind: "I believe everything is possible, but when everything is buried under the earth, I find it unlikely."
Even the friendship that has lasted more than 15 years, was shaken after that Lena gave directions to his new job. "We are not enemies, but we have not spoken recently. We are going their separate ways to our own way," Julia streamlines.
Many Projects
Without stopping to work with music, Julia has also invested in movies and has plans to open a bar soon.

Julia recording the horror / comedy 'Fear Mongers'
(Photo: Play / Official Site)
"I'm working on several things at the moment. My solo career, my film (Fear Mongers) and opening a bar, I give everything I have for my projects ... My life, my mood, my mornings, afternoons and nights" she said, excited.
After the worldwide fame, Julia also seeking success in his solo career, but in another way.
"I'm happy now, but it's time to show the world and my fans that there is also only Julia Volkova. I'm very different today. I am a mother of two beautiful angels. I want to fly above the world and I do this. I know my fans are with me every step of the way. This will not be aa last time I go to South America, this is just the beginning. "
Shows in Brazil
Julia begins his tour in Brazil on November 17, the Flying Circus, in Rio de Janeiro, for the release of their first single "All Because Of You". Day 18, fans of Belo Horizonte will be able to enjoy the show at the Music Hall. Sao Paulo hosts the singer Sonique Club on Sunday, 19. Day 22, Julia makes her sound also in the Alley 203, in Porto Alegre. Even in the south, it presents itself in Florianopolis on 23 in the John Bull Pub, and ends his tour in Brazil in 25 days, the Club Meet in Fortaleza.

fanoff
05-11-2011, 01:36
Seriously, who believes that the single will be released in November?

regigigas1505
05-11-2011, 02:36
Yeah, it's accurate (even if it seems Google-translated), thanks for posting!

Oh, and obviously the single will be out this month -- she'll sing it live, anyway.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/298966_10150340528828022_245290673021_8411631_1740 501893_n.jpg

I'm proud of her, she seems to be out of those bad things. She looks old, like 20 years older than she is, but I like this more than the plus-sized lips and plastic face. Hope she's still like this in a few weeks! I'm going to the concert, you can expect many pictures and videos! ;)

Starrgurl
05-11-2011, 21:57
But if the concert gets cancelled like it did the last time, do you think she'll still release it anyway? Or will we have to wait another 6 months?

regigigas1505
06-11-2011, 02:07
It's also confirmed she's going to MTV Brazil one day before the show; she's probably gonna sing it there.

If anything gets cancelled, I'm not going to be surprised, but I dope it does not happen anyway.

EsseAmaAquele
09-11-2011, 02:23
Brazil Concert Setlist (Confirmed by the production of the shows)

During her South American Tour, Julia Volkova will give six concerts in Brazil, staring in Rio de Janeiro on November 17 and ending in Fortaleza, on November 25. Recently, we've been given the Setlist of her concerts in Brazil. Julia will sing 14 songs completely live, including covers of the song "Back to Black" by Amy Winehouse and the songs "Granade" and "Just The Way You Are" by Bruno Mars.
We want to share it with you earlier for being such loyal fans! We would also like to give a big Thank You to Eduardo Rangel, reporter of UOL NaTelinha Brazil, who kindly shared this information with us!




- S E T L I S T -

(Intro)

All About Us
Sdvinu Mir
30 Minutes
Stand Up
Fly on the Wall
Prostie Dvizheniya (Over and Over)

(Interlude - Costume Change)

Rage
Friend or Foe
Back to Black/Grenade/Just The Way You Are
Running Blind
Woman All The Way Down
Show Me Love

(Interlude - Costume Change)

Encore
All The Things She Said
All Because of You

(Outro)

Back Up Songs
Loves Me Not
You andI


Originally published by JuliaVolkova.com.ar Read more here: http://www.juliavolkova.com.ar/2011/11/sat11-update-iii-brazil-concert-setlist.html#ixzz1dAQ1NuKm

fanoff
09-11-2011, 13:33
TeamVolkova on official forum wrote

Julia will be on her way to Los Angeles to shoot her music video this week. From LA she will fly to Brazil for her tour!

Julia completed a new photoshoot in Moscow last night

Still no sound about the premier date.

MalchikGeiBrand
10-11-2011, 02:05
omg all those tatu songs :p

When they put in (Over and Over) next to Prostie Dvizhenia... does that mean she is singing it/parts of it in English?

Can't wait to see footage though

Talyubittu
10-11-2011, 06:55
This pile of garbage coming from the woman who criticized Lena for singing t.A.T.u. songs? And not only that, singing covers of other artists as well while you're supposed to be promoting your self as a solo act?

Yulia Volkova is going to take off in a nose dive before she even gets off the ground.

She isn't releasing Rage or Woman All The Way Down or Stand Up, so why is she performing those as well? Never mind the fact that all of these songs are complete shit.

Get off your ass and do some work for once. I realize as a former pop idol with a background in classical music that it's rather difficult to write music on your own (sarcasm) - but really, three songs in the past three years? This project is a train wreck caught fire, put out and caught fire again.

And my ass that she'll be singing these songs "completely live" - I expect to hear more playback during the t.A.T.u. charade than her.

Oh, and in case you can't tell. "Bay".

This nonsense is even funnier than t.A.T.u. was. Big upgrade she's made.

And wasn't her single that we still don't have a date for announced and supposed to be released months ago?

Fucking ridiculous, all of it.

RowerB
10-11-2011, 08:30
I hope she does sing most of those songs in her show, especially Woman All the Way Down. That song is way too good to be thrown in the bin. Hopefully she’ll also include Nichya.

fanoff
10-11-2011, 11:24
nfne said that setlist is fake. I also believe this is fake. Singing Bruno mars and Amy Winehouse songs doesn't make any sense.

Arnaudfrenchy
10-11-2011, 11:39
In all ways, i expected something quicker for both singers.
I am waiting to listen Yulia "live". I have listened to Lena and the fact she still want to stay on "Falsetto" isn't good. I mean i know Lena falsetto is HER thing but better not to use it too much.
It seems it was only on Never Forget so, it's okay.
You clearly hear it on Never Forget Live and even more on Tic Toc (in my opinion this song was a bad choice to cover with Belanova, Belanova who isn't a singer for me but well...)
Oops, i forgot i am on Yulia's topic here. :D
Despite all the bad things from Yulia, ridiculous mispelling english and useless critics, as i said, i am waiting to listen to her live. I am curious about Back to Black. I agree on the fact that she should have promoted her product but it seems that regarding the time of the performance she had to add more songs.
Well, if the setlist is fake... :D We will see.

michael
10-11-2011, 21:18
nfne said that setlist is fake. I also believe this is fake. Singing Bruno mars and Amy Winehouse songs doesn't make any sense.

Sveta has contradicted that. It seems she is not sure if they asked Julia the right question, nor if her answer was "no that's not the setlist" or "no comment".

So it seems that the setlist remains to be confirmed.

I still have some doubts, the setlist seems a little on the long side for a Julia solo performance, and she has not exactly expressed her love for Stand up. But we will see, I guess.

Talyubittu
10-11-2011, 23:37
nfne said that setlist is fake. I also believe this is fake. Singing Bruno mars and Amy Winehouse songs doesn't make any sense.

Is NFNE The Insider of Yulia Volkova's project now?

2. Singing t.A.T.u. songs doesn't make any sense either so how do you distinguish red flag #1 from red flag #2.

regigigas1505
11-11-2011, 02:33
YAY the forum's alive again lol :gigi:

Anyways, I don't know what to think, I'm just gonna wait as always. I'm just praying her face will be OK for some pics for my personal files.

fanoff
11-11-2011, 15:03
I don't know if nfne is the insider or not. And it's up to you to believe the setlist or not. I said I don't. Anyway, the news is she will shoot the video in LA this weekend directed by Evan Winter.

missvolk66
11-11-2011, 17:23
The Russian version of the single has premiered on Lenta.ru!

Click here to listen to SDVINU MIR: http://lenta.ru/audio/volkova/

thegurgi
11-11-2011, 17:41
This pile of garbage coming from the woman who criticized Lena for singing t.A.T.u. songs? And not only that, singing covers of other artists as well while you're supposed to be promoting your self as a solo act?
actually - she was approached by the Brazilian touring company because they wanted her to perform Tatu songs... it was part of the contract. She technically owns the Tatu catalog (Lena doesn't) ... so, it's her authority to perform them over Lena, which (i'm guessing) is why the Brazilians contacted Julia and not Lena... I'm sorry it's not going exactly the way you seem to think it should be going. But you don't really have the facts correct enough to even begin... the logistics of merely getting the girl to a photoshoot is mind boggling. Things get thrown together in days in between huge lulls. You plan it as best you can, conceptually - but the reality of these things is that it just happens. There's a lot more about to happen too - so you can can the righteous negativity towards the project. If you don't like and it's not what you're into, that's not really any of our faults.


And wasn't her single that we still don't have a date for announced and supposed to be released months ago?

Delays in production of the song, i still don't know the english version, but we're filming the music video tomorrow in LA, it's gonna be a lot of fun. I'll be taking photos from the set and collecting items for the website - http://lenta.ru/audio/volkova/

Argos
11-11-2011, 17:41
Sveta has contradicted that. It seems she is not sure if they asked Julia the right question, nor if her answer was "no that's not the setlist" or "no comment".

So it seems that the setlist remains to be confirmed.
:ithink: ...now I'm pretty slow at comprehending your argument. Sveta isn't sure if they asked the right question (what did they ask instead??) and she doesn't know what Yul answered, and that confirms the correctness of the claimed setlist? :confused:

Anyway, if I had to choose whom to believe, Sveta or Serezha, I'd rather trust I-had-no-sex-with-that -woman-Billy.
Singing t.A.T.u. songs doesn't make any sense...
Doesn't make sense to sing ANY of her own songs either, unless they dispense ear protectors at her concerts in case people have some sense for music.
directed by Evan Winter
Deadhead! :grustno: Russia and especially Ukraine have 100x better directors.

sakuya
11-11-2011, 17:45
Her single sucks. Total BULLSHIT!

regigigas1505
11-11-2011, 17:46
Wow! Her first single is really amazing! Reminds me of her old voice!!! Somewhat, it's very russian and very tatuish! I'm in love, I'm so glad to say such a thing!!! Happy for her, too.

Argos, who's that guy?

Argos
11-11-2011, 17:50
Argos, who's that guy?
Some of his masterpieces (http://www.evanwinter.com/) - yaaaawn!

regigigas1505
11-11-2011, 17:53
Enrique Iglesias! At least a big name there haha. Anyways, seems like a biiig yawn, indeed. Maybe Yulia saves the day for a change.

I think the chorus is strong, but the end of it could have been amazing. But I'm not complaning, I was expecting nothing and actually it's quite the fun song, and she did a great vocal job.

missvolk66
11-11-2011, 17:54
Argos, what do you think about the single?

Arnaudfrenchy
11-11-2011, 17:55
so, it's her authority to perform them over Lena, which (i'm guessing) is why the Brazilians contacted Julia and not Lena...

But morally, i would say that Lena and Yulia have both the rights to sing tatu songs.

I have listened to the song.
The music is not my cup of tea. The beat bass reminded me NGGU :D
I gotta say that my music tastes changed a bit since tatu first single.
Well, i am not an expert but i suppose that the song is interesting in some aspect.
Yulia loves definitely arabic cultur.

Argos
11-11-2011, 17:56
Argos, what do you think about the single?
It's sooo pop that it hurts my ears (well, I always hated Swedish pop - it's definitely not mine...).

Arnaudfrenchy
11-11-2011, 18:03
Swedish ? 0_o

regigigas1505
11-11-2011, 18:04
I believe thegurgi is mixing things up because he's from Yulia's team. I have to admit I would, too, get involved in this "fight" if I were with one of them.

But let's be clear here: that's untrue. Boris sponsors Lena and everything, so she also has the rights we're speaking of -- thing is, Yulia was very unhappy on commenting such things a while back. That's it, she's made a mistake, she was angry and all that, let's just move on and forgive her. Or not. :coctail:

Arnaudfrenchy, the producer's swedish...

Blakeich
11-11-2011, 18:06
actually - she was approached by the Brazilian touring company because they wanted her to perform Tatu songs... it was part of the contract. She technically owns the Tatu catalog (Lena doesn't) ... so, it's her authority to perform them over Lena, which (i'm guessing) is why the Brazilians contacted Julia and not Lena... I'm sorry it's not going exactly the way you seem to think it should be going. But you don't really have the facts correct enough to even begin... the logistics of merely getting the girl to a photoshoot is mind boggling. Things get thrown together in days in between huge lulls. You plan it as best you can, conceptually - but the reality of these things is that it just happens. There's a lot more about to happen too - so you can can the righteous negativity towards the project. If you don't like and it's not what you're into, that's not really any of our faults.


Delays in production of the song, i still don't know the english version, but we're filming the music video tomorrow in LA, it's gonna be a lot of fun. I'll be taking photos from the set and collecting items for the website - http://lenta.ru/audio/volkova/

why does she own the catalogue. I never understood this could you explain.

Argos
11-11-2011, 18:13
Swedish ? 0_o
From ASCAP:
ALL BECAUSE OF YOU

Work ID: 312356073

Writers:
FRANSSON JOHAN KJELL
LARSSON TIM MIKAEL
LUNDGREN TOBIAS LARS
MOLINDER NIKLAS
PERSSON JOACIM

Performers:
(none found)

Variations:
(none found)

Publishers/Administrators:
WARNER/CHAPPELL MUSIC SCAND AB
C/O WB MUSIC CORP
% WARNER CHAPPELL MUSIC INC
10585 SANTA MONICA BLVD
LOS ANGELES, CA, 90025
Tel. (310) 441-8600
Email: Jeremy.blietz@warnerchappell.com

Arnaudfrenchy
11-11-2011, 18:14
Arnaudfrenchy, the producer's swedish...

I wasn't sure lol
Thank you for confirming. :)
Thanks to Argos too. ;-)

why does she own the catalogue. I never understood this could you explain.

Well, the story isn't clear. Someone told that at a fan meeting in Russia, yulia told she didn't own the rights. But it's a complete crap that i am seriously laughing at. :D

Yulia and Lena have all the right to sing tatu songs if they want. This is just a moral.

Blakeich
11-11-2011, 18:20
Шаг – ночь, бег – день.
Сон – прочь, в тень проблем.
Лёд – страсть, блеск губ,
Но власть мне зачем?
Я же могу быть сильной
Тобой на треть
Сильно обнять, ждать сильно
И сильно захотеть.

Я буду для тебя высоты ощущением
Если ты плывешь я могу стать течением
Хочешь для тебя сдвину мир, только попроси
Мне же хватит сил, сил сил

Пей ром, жги боль,
Спрячь всё вглубь души.
Вверх – зной, вниз – мост.
Где твой свет скажи!
Я же могу быть сильной
Тобой на треть
Сильно обнять, ждать сильно
И сильно захотеть.

Я буду для тебя высоты ощущением
Если ты плывешь я могу стать течением
Хочешь для тебя сдвину мир, только попроси
Мне же хватит сил, сил сил

Я обернусь,
Чтобы слышать твой пульс
В голосах, в тишине, в музыке из такси
Обернусь и пойду снова. Мне хватит сил

– Pace – night, Run – day.
– Sleep – slip away, into the shadow of problems.
– Ice – passion, the glimmer of lips,
– But why do I have control?
– I could have the strength
– Of three of you
– Embrace strongly, wait strongly
– And want it strongly

– I will be your sense of height for you
– If you float away, I can turn into the waves
– If you want me to move the world, just ask
– I have enough strength, strength strength

– Drink rum – burn the pain,
– Hide everything deep within your soul.
– Up – heat. Down – a bridge.
– Just say where your light is!
– I could have the strength
– Of three of you
– Embrace strongly, wait strongly
– And want it strongly

– I will be your sense of height for you
– If you float away, I can turn into the waves
– If you want me to move the world, just ask
– I have enough strength, strength strength

– I turn around
– Just to listen to your pulse.
– In the voices, in the silence, in the music from the taxi
– I turn around and leave again. I have enough strength

thegurgi
11-11-2011, 18:23
Yulia and Lena have all the right to sing tatu songs if they want. This is just a moral.
you are right Arnaud about the morality thing (to a degree), i was merely commenting that the reason why Julia is performing Tatu songs is because that's what the company requested. If Julia refused to sing them - the tour wouldn't happen and she really wanted to visit the Brazilian fans. My theory as to why Julia was contacted, and not Lena, is because of the legal ownership of the Tatu catalog... think about the big controversy of Michael Jackson owning the Beatles catalog, this is a similar vein. And there are conflicting reports about it's ownership, all i know is what i've been told from the people i know.

As for the song, it's part of the Gala contract so yeah, it's gonna be more pop than anything. You gotta sow your seeds before you can really do your own stuff and this is definitely the beginning... i've heard that the new demo is banging.

Arnaudfrenchy
11-11-2011, 18:35
i was merely commenting that the reason why Julia is performing Tatu songs is because that's what the company requested. If Julia refused to sing them - the tour wouldn't happen and she really wanted to visit the Brazilian fans. My theory as to why Julia was contacted, and not Lena, is because of the legal ownership of the Tatu catalog...

Yes, i agree with you. Then nothing confirmed that Yulia was the owner of tatu songs.

think about the big controversy of Michael Jackson owning the Beatles catalog, this is a similar vein.

I didn't know about that.

Talyubittu
11-11-2011, 19:36
actually - she was approached by the Brazilian touring company because they wanted her to perform Tatu songs... it was part of the contract. She technically owns the Tatu catalog (Lena doesn't) ... so, it's her authority to perform them over Lena, which (i'm guessing) is why the Brazilians contacted Julia and not Lena... I'm sorry it's not going exactly the way you seem to think it should be going. But you don't really have the facts correct enough to even begin... the logistics of merely getting the girl to a photoshoot is mind boggling. Things get thrown together in days in between huge lulls. You plan it as best you can, conceptually - but the reality of these things is that it just happens. There's a lot more about to happen too - so you can can the righteous negativity towards the project. If you don't like and it's not what you're into, that's not really any of our faults.


Delays in production of the song, i still don't know the english version, but we're filming the music video tomorrow in LA, it's gonna be a lot of fun. I'll be taking photos from the set and collecting items for the website - http://lenta.ru/audio/volkova/

I don't care if she personally wrote and composed every one of the songs t.A.T.u. ever performed. The issue isn't ownership, it's decency. And anybody who opens their mouth about their former band mate performing t.A.T.u. music under a solo name should not throw stones in her own glass house, contract or not. She did have the option to refuse and say "No, I'm simply Yulia Volkova now" - but she didn't, did she? So what point do you think you're making? I fail to see it.

Also, they should have approached both girls if their intent was to put on a show with he pretext of being a t.A.T.u. concert. That's just my opinion on that specific matter. Clearly though, the people in control have always and currently still do know what's best since both girls are still about as important as stray birds on a radar.

In addition, if you'd like to point out which "facts" I don't have correct then please, enlighten me. I'd love the experience to be informed of what I evidently don't know since I'm also evidently not in contact with anyone affiliated with the project and am also evidently spewing false information? I'll leave that to the powers that be as well since they're the ones with experience in that department.

And trust me, I can imagine how difficult it is to get "the girl" to a photo shoot. Probably about as difficult as everything else related to her and her project seem to be despite being in her best interest to do all of these things. Things being thrown together last minute is not anything new here, but way to shed light on all the problems Yulia Volkova carried over from t.A.T.u. despite the absence of Boris Rensky.

So, finally - the only thing I'm going to "can" is dealing with you since you spout a whole lot of nonsense under the same pretense of "big things are happening" that have yet to happen. Performing t.A.T.u. songs + 3 unused tracks + one decent new single is also not big. Especially since you've stated yourself they're booking her for her involvement with t.A.T.u. predominantly, not her specifically.

Announcing a single in August and releasing it in November is clue number one in case you're confused about what I'm talking about as well. Which isn't "big" by the way. It's essential in order to be an artist and once again, delayed and underwhelming in the end. It's been years since t.A.T.u. collapsed and you still don't even know when one English counterpart of a song is going to be released. This post from you has been about as informative as reading the nutrition facts on a box of Twinkies; i.e. tells me everything I already knew. Full of fat, artery clogging and stuffed with artificial ingredients. Let me contain my overwhelming surprise.

If I weren't interested in Yulia Volkova, I wouldn't be here. I'm not going to be chastised for her teams failure to put together a decent project after two? three? I don't even know how long it's been - years. Especially by her fan-turned-graphic-designer who in reality doesn't know anything. See the part where you mention that here (http://forum.tatysite.net/showpost.php?p=396945&postcount=1083). So enjoy your photo shoot.

:)

thegurgi
11-11-2011, 19:53
If I weren't interested in Yulia Volkova, I wouldn't be here. I'm not going to be chastised for her teams failure to put together a decent project after two? three? I don't even know how long it's been - years. Especially by her fan-turned-graphic-designer. So enjoy your photo shoot.

:)

whatever. I was a graphic designer before I was her fan, btw...and it will be a blast, literally at one point.

I just think there's just been way too much read into these things and ton of assumptions. It's easy to make your comments a your computer, i know cause i used to do it a lot about things i really had no experience in. But when you're actually in the field, working - you find out how utterly naive and silly your comments are - I regret so much that I used to say about shit but i've learned and moved on. Like how Julia has is learning from her mistakes - learning is something a lot of people just don't know how to do ... especially my fellow Americans. We dwell on idiotic one liners and act as if they are definitive always. We americans LOVE that... our political system's relationship with the media is dependent on it. Very typical... I know you think i'm still some high school student with a design hobby, but i've been working in the field and worked with clients bigger than Julia Volkova. I defend this project because it's not worth all the criticism it's being given. SERIOUSLY... this is like 5 people trying to help a girl record some songs cause it's all she knows. And you guys act as if we're actually trying to replicate the Tatu career. Or that there's so much more to this than there is... or that it's been YEARS. Do you forget that Julia has 2 children that's shes's been trying to raise? That she didn't get to spend any time with when they were born. I can tell you that she HAS been doing that... and shopping, a lot of shopping... she's definitely not perfect but i give her credit, she has a lot more drive than any one i've met and she's just ridiculously kind to people and that's more than i can say for some people.... a lot of people....

and i'd love to say why lena wasn't approached for Brazil but i've only heard the Brazilians take and the Boris stories and they are never reliable...

regigigas1505
11-11-2011, 20:00
How can you say she learned from her mistakes? It's literally ON HER FACE. She hasn't.

Since you know so much, why don't you explain something actually useful and tell us the background on this plastic thing? She shoulda gotten treatment before ruining her face, now it's all gone.

thegurgi
11-11-2011, 20:09
ow can you say she learned from her mistakes? It's literally ON HER FACE. She hasn't.

Since you know so much, why don't you explain something actually useful and tell us the background on this plastic thing? She shoulda gotten treatment before ruining her face, now it's all gone.

she stopped a long time ago - but i'll make sure i tell her you said that... she'll really enjoy your nice comments.

--- my basic point before, really ignoring your insult there, - i think it's pretty remarkable what her team and herself have managed to do with little budget and resources... that's my perspective and since i'm a constructive person and not destructive, that's the one i'm going to stick to. Maybe you guys need to read a book called 'How to Win Friends and Influence People' or something. Cause the destructive criticism on these boards is just toxic ... and not worth my energy. I have friends, a job and a career to work on ... i've said my peace about julia's career and that's that. Enjoy what we have coming up cause I think it's gonna be really good, better than sdvinu mir (the english version i hear is actually better!)

regigigas1505
11-11-2011, 20:22
Yes, she stopped a long time ago. Right. That's why she looked almost OK back in december and she only gets worse now.

As for what you tell her or not, it's not my concern -- she's a public figure, deal with it. Her surgeries made everyone suffer for her, to this day. What you tell her I or other members say about it won't matter at all, as you're obviously as shallow as her destructive plastic ideas.

Talyubittu
11-11-2011, 20:24
whatever. I was a graphic designer before I was her fan, btw...and it will be a blast, literally at one point.

I just think there's just been way too much read into these things and ton of assumptions. It's easy to make your comments a your computer, i know cause i used to do it a lot about things i really had no experience in. But when you're actually in the field, working - you find out how utterly naive and silly your comments are - I regret so much that I used to say about shit but i've learned and moved on. Like how Julia has is learning from her mistakes - learning is something a lot of people just don't know how to do ... especially my fellow Americans. We dwell on idiotic one liners and act as if they are definitive always. We americans LOVE that... our political system's relationship with the media is dependent on it. Very typical... I know you think i'm still some high school student with a design hobby, but i've been working in the field and worked with clients bigger than Julia Volkova. I defend this project because it's not worth all the criticism it's being given. SERIOUSLY... this is like 5 people trying to help a girl record some songs cause it's all she knows. And you guys act as if we're actually trying to replicate the Tatu career. Or that there's so much more to this than there is... or that it's been YEARS. Do you forget that Julia has 2 children that's shes's been trying to raise? That she didn't get to spend any time with when they were born. I can tell you that she HAS been doing that... and shopping, a lot of shopping... she's definitely not perfect but i give her credit, she has a lot more drive than any one i've met and she's just ridiculously kind to people and that's more than i can say for some people.... a lot of people....

and i'd love to say why lena wasn't approached for Brazil but i've only heard the Brazilians take and the Boris stories and they are never reliable...


To address the unimportant things first, by "fan turned graphic designer" I was implying you were a former fan who later became a part of her team. Not that you suddenly knew your way around Photoshop because Yulia Volkova's team contracted you to make a website and photograph things.

Now, moving on the real issues - there are zero assumptions being made. What assumptions have you encountered, specifically by me thus far? Last I was aware, three songs were released via her website/birthday party - none of which were impressive. Second, one tour was already canceled due to circumstances "beyond the teams control" - I'm sure. And once again, the single that was leaked/released today that was announced in August and supposed to be released in August as well. None of which are "assumptions" - actually, I'm pretty sure I can find all of this information on her website, twitter or announcement she's personally made. So excuse your lack of being informed, not my and many others lack of enthusiasm over what you deem "assumptions".

As far as this "making comments from your computer" lunacy - have you or anyone else involved with this project looked in a mirror recently? Because absolutely zero has been done that is not from behind a computer screen. Including all of the absence of information you're trying to convince me that you're chock full of despite revealing none of it. It is not my job to sit and be patient as a fan. It is Yulia Volkova and her teams priority to maintain my interest - something they have not and still are not doing. Once again, her being half of t.A.T.u. in Brazil doesn't count because nobody other than handful of Brazilian t.A.T.u. fans (since Yulia Volkova has released nothing to gain new fans) care about the event that is going to be a simple re-hash of her birthday party, ex-t.A.T.u. and a new YouTube clip.

Moving on, you are not "in the field". As I said before. You are a former fan (not unlike a number of people involved in this "project" (Yourself, Amanda, Dean, + others) that was contacted out of what I can only assume (I will admit, assume) was desperation. If that isn't the first clue at the lack of professionalism regarding this entire ordeal + an already canceled concert + the release of three songs that were later shit-canned as well + the delayed release of the single + the lack of an English counterpart that god knows when will surface then I don't know what is.

I'm not following along with your State of The Union either with this "my fellow Americans' nonsense. What? What are you even saying? Let me save anyone else who is confused at your Insider like comments full of a lack of information from the trouble of attempting to find a diamond in the rough here. YOU WON'T.

If the woman is going to blame her lack of focus, initiative and accomplishment with regard to her own project on the fact that she's a birthing machine (which also did significant damage to t.A.T.u.) spare me the pity party because quite frankly I'm not interested in such a pathetic excuse for the lack of progress.

If you are a mom, be a mom. If you want to be a star - do some work. If you're undecided, do not send your graphic designer to chastise what little fans remain simply because we're underwhelmed with the obvious lack of progress. As I said before, it is not my fault she's a mom and incapable of doing things on time or following through with them. It is not my job as a fan to be interested in the lack of anything going on, nor is it the responsibility of anyone else to do the same.

Why don't you garner some professionalism and pass the message on while you're off being her photographer; announcing that she's more interested in shopping and raising her children isn't exactly artist of the year material, especially when what few fans are left are already waning in interest.

If she had this "drive" you talk about, she'd forget about flying to Sweden to record something full of loops that I could compose in 30 seconds in Garage Band. Then, maybe she'd remember that she's decently wealthy, an accomplished classical musician and a mom. So in other words - record the album in your home like the other half of artists with children and lives that I assure you are more hectic than the leisurely lifestyle of shopping and vacation that Yulia Volkova is notorious for.

This entire project is nothing but a rehash of t.A.T.u. - only years ago, Boris Rensky was the problem for the lack of progress. But now thanks to your comments on her use of a debit card and mom-obligations I think we know exactly what the problem is and was.

Yulia may be nice, and I wish her well. But as a fan, it doesn't change the fact that absolutely nothing is happening other than former fans turned uncompensated employees defending her lack of work ethic.

Perhaps you should pay attention to someone who actually is involved in "the field" you claim to be an expert on because of the nine months you've spent building a website and taking pictures of Yulia Volkova. Nobody involved with this project has any clue about "the field" you're claiming to be all knowing of since she's obviously still at square one.

Pass that along to her new management the next time you want to defend her being a mother and a shop-a-holic in favor of work.




--- my basic point before, really ignoring your insult there, - i think it's pretty remarkable what her team and herself have managed to do with little budget and resources... that's my perspective and since i'm a constructive person and not destructive, that's the one i'm going to stick to. Maybe you guys need to read a book called 'How to Win Friends and Influence People' or something. Cause the destructive criticism on these boards is just toxic ... and not worth my energy. I have friends, a job and a career to work on ... i've said my peace about julia's career and that's that. Enjoy what we have coming up cause I think it's gonna be really good, better than sdvinu mir (the english version i hear is actually better!)

I don't think any of it is remarkable. She owns the rights to t.A.T.u. according to you, royalties upon royalties yet she's still unable to afford a decent team? Tell that to a home garage band given a record deal as a result of hard work. That's the entire problem. Yulia Volkova has always sat back while others do the work and while money talks instead of roughing it and working her ass off. She wouldn't know a hard days work if it hit her in the face. Watch Podnebesnya, eXpedition, anything. It's always been someone else with two pretty girls being the face of it all. It doesn't work that way.

And before you give us recommendations on literature, why don't you have Yulia read a book called "How To Win Fans and Accomplish Something".

There would be less "destructive critacism" if there were any progress being made.

I'm so tired of the laziness involved with this project! And you're not helping the matter! You're pushing fans away, not changing opinions.

I suggest you be quiet about this project if the only things you're going to say are along the lines of what you already have. I'm pretty patient and I'd say dedicated as well. But even your lunacy is going to be enough to change that.

thegurgi
11-11-2011, 20:47
I suggest you be quiet about this project if the only things you're going to say are along the lines of what you already have. I'm pretty patient and I'd say dedicated as well. But even your lunacy is going to be enough to change that.
i suggest you relax, if you think i'm gonna read all that you're wrong too. I'm a dj too now, so i'm just killing time in between stop sets and it's not that much time... i'm glad you're patient, there is more coming up that i'm way more excited about than what's been launched before. You're right though - i do need to be quiet and it's not professional of me... i'm willing to admit that mistake. I'm also a human... hope i can be forgiven for that or will i just be called a lunatic again? not really an insult though - as far as any one is concerned this lunatic is doing pretty well for himself...

Talyubittu
11-11-2011, 20:49
i suggest you relax, if you think i'm gonna read all that you're wrong too. I'm a dj too now, so i'm just killing time in between stop sets and it's not that much time... i'm glad you're patient, there is more coming up that i'm way more excited about than what's been launched before. You're right though - i do need to be quiet and it's not professional of me... i'm willing to admit that mistake. I'm also a human... hope i can be forgiven for that or will i just be called a lunatic again? not really an insult though - as far as any one is concerned this lunatic is doing pretty well for himself...

Laziness strikes again, maybe if you would bother to read that you could pass on what this project is missing.

Direction. Accomplishment. Work ethic. Simplicity.

Keep dreaming.

Arnaudfrenchy
11-11-2011, 20:53
to record something full of loops that I could compose in 30 seconds in Garage Band

I have this feeling too when i hear about the new song.

Talyubittu
11-11-2011, 20:54
I have this feeling too when i hear about the new song.

Because that's what it is. It sounds like a remix of Candy Shop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRcnnId15BA&ob=av3e).

Argos
11-11-2011, 20:56
Laziness strikes again, maybe if you would bother to read that you could pass on what this project is missing.
Well, actually I read it and I have to admit - it wasn't worth even a second. Attacking someone who tries to explain a little bit about the situation around Volkova is both annoying and counterproductive. I'm not going to tolerate if you will continue to insult a forum member, remember the rules!

Talyubittu
11-11-2011, 20:57
Well, actually I read it and I have to admit - it wasn't worth even a second. Attacking someone who tries to explain a little bit about the situation around Volkova is both annoying and counterproductive. I'm not going to tolerate if you will continue to insult a forum member, remember the rules!

I have nothing against Greg. I have an issue with defending the lack of progress and announcing that she's busy swiping her debit card and having kids. That's not an explanation, it's an excuse.

Arnaudfrenchy
11-11-2011, 21:01
Because that's what it is. It sounds like a remix of Candy Shop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRcnnId15BA&ob=av3e).

But strangely, that's sound better with 50 cents. :D

thegurgi
11-11-2011, 21:12
having kids. That's not an explanation, it's an excuse.
a 20 year old boy calling having a kids an "excuse"... it's obvious there are no mother's on this forum. I'm merely the uncle of 4 with a sister who had a kid through medical school. I can only imagine her furor at such a comment. She's actually pregnant now. oh no! she's such a bitch for slowing down her career cause my brother in law wants a big screen tv! i can imagine her comments being particularly cruel and then hysterical...

argos, i'm not offended by his comments... other than being called lazy. You know i'm disabled and suffer from chronic pain... and i work my ass off to be a productive member of this society. Despite nothing being easy. So being called lazy is my 'n-word.' So if i can get permission tell him to fuck off... i'd love it. There's a difference between laziness and knowing when something isn't worth it... and since i'm willing to admit that i'm just wasting time here until i can leave the station and hang out with real people - i'm stuck with an un-impressible 20 year old know-it-all. Luckily, he's not really worth impressing, just wasting time on. Once he shows me some valid proof of worth towards society that he's provided - maybe i'll show him that respect... wait no. he called me lazy. fuck that. i'm out.

Argos
11-11-2011, 21:13
I have nothing against Greg. I have an issue with defending the lack of progress and announcing that she's busy swiping her debit card and having kids. That's not an explanation, it's an excuse.
It's not the arguments, it's the aggressive way and direct insults, which I don't like. You had definitely better days on this board!

So far the whole project was really disappointing for me too. Children and private duties can not always be brought up as reasons/excuses for a not convincing career start (which already takes several years). On the creative side I don't see anything special, even a tendency towards cheap and simple mimicry of already uninteresting 'work' from the past of pop music, with no intention to give it a deeper sense or even give it some personal note, which currently is completely missing. Yulya seems to be a hopeless case. I'm not even sure if she understands what an artist has to do to attract an audience.

obez17
11-11-2011, 21:23
Disappointing for such a long wait. Sounds like a lot of other things. :/ I fail to hear a great climax that she criticized Lena's first single for lacking. 0_0

I am glad that it is finally out. I feel like some barrier has finally been broken.

Talyubittu
11-11-2011, 21:27
It's not the arguments, it's the aggressive way and direct insults, which I don't like. You had definitely better days on this board!

So far the whole project was really disappointing for me too. Children and private duties can not always be brought up as reasons/excuses for a not convincing career start (which already takes several years). On the creative side I don't see anything special, even a tendency towards cheap and simple mimicry of already uninteresting 'work' from the past of pop music, with no intention to give it a deeper sense or even give it some personal note, which currently is completely missing. Yulya seems to be a hopeless case. I'm not even sure if she understands what an artist has to do to attract an audience.

This.

And my use of the word "lunacy" (which is the only "insult" I can spot) is meant to be applied to the entire project, not specifically Greg. I do apologize if it appears that way. My issue is with the project, not any specific person. And Greg, not reading something and being called lazy for that specifically has nothing to do with this discussion. If you're going to have a discussion and conclude with "well I'm not going to read all of that" - then yes, that is laziness. It has nothing to do with your being disabled or anything else irrelevant you're bringing into this out of context.

But, telling me to fuck off and calling me a 20 something under impressed whatever else you've decided to say because I've insulted is once again - such a great display of your professionalism! Not. And in case you failed to notice, very few others are impressed as well. It's not a personal problem. I've heard you're disabled multiple times throughout the years and it has nothing to do with you or your ability to communicate, nor does it have anything to do with this discussion - as you brought the matter up. Nowhere did I imply you're lazy because you're disabled. It doesn't seem to stop you from jumping state to state to go to t.A.T.u. fan parties/photoshoots, so drop that irrelevant topic - especially since you brought it up once again without any relevance.

michael
11-11-2011, 21:38
on the fact that she's a birthing machine

Sorry! But that is a disgraceful thing to say about any mother of two children no matter what one thinks of there work ethic!

Personally I am ashamed to admit that I like Euro dance - so I did actually quite like this. I was not sure of the intro - but it seemed to fit as the song went on. And it had the authentic Volkova sound despite the level of processing.

I can see it doing quite well on the continent where euro dance can still get decent chart positions. It will probably struggle a little in the US and USA where euro dance has fallen out of favour - unless the English version is substantially reworked.

Is NFNE The Insider of Yulia Volkova's project now?

Sergey isn't an insider, but he and Sveta have met Julia and her parents enough times that Julia will sometimes speak to him - and he has got hold of some fan exclusives over the year. But in this case they seem genuinely confused over what was said/meant. My grasp of Russian is rudimentary to say the least so it all leaves me none the wiser.


She technically owns the Tatu catalog (Lena doesn't) ...


Even if the deal has at last been concluded Boris (and last time Julia mentioned the subject it was still a WIP) was to retain 1/3 share. Which effectively means Lena does too. She was asked to sing ATTSS on Mexican TV just this week.

Talyubittu
11-11-2011, 21:41
Sorry! But that is a disgraceful thing to say about any mother of two children no matter what one thinks of there work ethic!


What a can of worms this is. You mean the same woman who aborted her first child to keep her fame and fortune? Opinion vs. opinion. Sorry we disagree.

But it's even more of a disgrace to use your children as an excuse for your lack of work ethic is my point.

Arnaudfrenchy
11-11-2011, 21:53
My ethic tells me that you shouldn't give birth if you can't be sure to take care of your children yourself.
But seriously people, is it really necessary to speak about ethic in such a forum ?

Talyubittu
11-11-2011, 22:05
My ethic tells me that you shouldn't give birth if you can't be sure to take care of your children yourself.
But seriously people, is it really necessary to speak about ethic in such a forum ?


When production is being hindered evidently because of her duties as a mom, then yes. It's not like I'm insulting the woman for having children. But she shouldn't be dragging her career out if her heart is focused on being a mother. If she wants to be both, then fine. But she needs to go about it in a better way. Because as Argos said, family obligations are not an excuse for the lack of progress.

If I had my way, she'd be mother of the year and a successful artist. But she needs to prioritize and get to work if she wants to do both, because it doesn't just happen with a wave of a wand.

RowerB
11-11-2011, 22:35
I like the song. Sounded a bit funny for a start, but it gets better with a few listens. Woman All the Way Down is still my fave so far though.

podnebesnya
11-11-2011, 22:49
I think a lot of people (including myself) are upset because after the success t.A.T.u. had, we wish that it would be the same with Lena's/Yulia's solor careers and the fact that it clearly won't be is pissing us off.

I mean, if Yulia has a small team, a small budget and is busy being a mom, there is no way she will be as great as she could be, which is disappointing.

Both of their projects cannot be taken too seriously, it's just something we have after the boom of t.A.T.u., but it will never be the same.

I would love for one of them to release an amazing single, an amazing CD and be known all over the world again, but it won't happen and we are angry about it cus we don't want to accept it.

Talyubittu
11-11-2011, 23:03
I think a lot of people (including myself) are upset because after the success t.A.T.u. had, we wish that it would be the same with Lena's/Yulia's solor careers and the fact that it clearly won't be is pissing us off.

I mean, if Yulia has a small team, a small budget and is busy being a mom, there is no way she will be as great as she could be, which is disappointing.

Both of their projects cannot be taken too seriously, it's just something we have after the boom of t.A.T.u., but it will never be the same.

I would love for one of them to release an amazing single, an amazing CD and be known all over the world again, but it won't happen and we are angry about it cus we don't want to accept it.

I don't see what is wrong with expecting greatness from someone(s) we know is capable of being great, but failing to do so. It's more depressing than it is anything else. I guess it gets the best of all of us sometimes. :(

podnebesnya
11-11-2011, 23:24
I don't see what is wrong with expecting greatness from someone(s) we know is capable of being great, but failing to do so. It's more depressing than it is anything else. I guess it gets the best of all of us sometimes. :(

I know, especially with a unique voice like hers, we want Yulia to shine, but all we get is a dim little light :(

Talyubittu
11-11-2011, 23:34
I know, especially with a unique voice like hers, we want Yulia to shine, but all we get is a dim little light :(

Tell me about it. Like I said. I wouldn't still be here if I weren't interested. It's just upsetting. If her main goal is to please the fans, why doesn't she listen to them?

podnebesnya
11-11-2011, 23:37
Tell me about it. Like I said. I wouldn't still be here if I weren't interested. It's just upsetting. If her main goal is to please the fans, why doesn't she listen to them?

I'm sure she wants to please everyone, but she probably doesn't have full control over everything in her project.

I am still interested too, but don't know if I'd call myself a fan, at least not yet, I'll wait till the fuill CD & project is in full swing.

RowerB
12-11-2011, 00:02
If her main goal is to please the fans, why doesn't she listen to them?
I always find this idea funny. Which fan should she listen to, Talyubittu? You?

Talyubittu
12-11-2011, 00:03
I always find this idea funny. Which fan should she listen to, Talyubittu? You?

No, she should listen to the majority.

fanoff
12-11-2011, 00:34
Well, actually I read it and I have to admit - it wasn't worth even a second. Attacking someone who tries to explain a little bit about the situation around Volkova is both annoying and counterproductive.


A big LOL from me :lol:

Talyubittu
12-11-2011, 00:37
A big LOL from me :lol:

:D Heheh.

fanoff
12-11-2011, 00:40
A Swedish pop song is what I expected, so it's not a surprise that the sound is not hard. But I liked the song more after each listen. I still hope that I will get used to that 50 Cent sound:) I really want to know who wrote the Russian lyrics, because I think whoever did it has done a good job. Really sounded like original Russian song.

fanoff
12-11-2011, 00:44
.the download link from House13

http://www.sendspace.com/file/oicbyf

Talyubittu
12-11-2011, 01:24
I really want to know who wrote the Russian lyrics, because I think whoever did it has done a good job. Really sounded like original Russian song.

I had the opposite reaction. It sounds like something someone converted from English to Russian on Google translate.

It's all I + verb + I + verb + I + verb. And the verses aren't anything but random nouns.

fanoff
12-11-2011, 01:51
It may come to me like that because I don't know Russian but I wouldn't say that if I didn't know the truth.

MalchikGeiBrand
12-11-2011, 02:05
I think the chorus is catchy

Something about her voice seems different. I dunno. Her voice sounds nicer in this song compared to her others in my opinion though. Like, she almost sounds like the way she did when she was younger, but at the same time there's something new. I don't know if she just got good vocal directing or if the studio edited her voice a certain way or what... :p

Personally I like it when she sings with more edge. Like her singing in Fly on the wall, or most of tatu. But now I feel like since she's doing mostly pop music for her solo (or er, "sex rock" if she's still calling it that) she's trying to sing in this "sexy" girly voice or something.

fanoff
12-11-2011, 11:21
I agree with this YT comment

I like this better than Never forget, Julia just have that "Spark"

NF is a better song but this has the feeling. I wouldn't like SM if I heard it from someone other than Yulia, yet she makes the song grow.

Argos
12-11-2011, 11:44
It sounds like something someone converted from English to Russian on Google translate.

It's all I + verb + I + verb + I + verb. And the verses aren't anything but random nouns.
The first few measures (after the snake-charming intro) I thought it's a cheap plagiate from Linda's Five Minutes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZP8SB9UKak) (which in the same way begins seemingly random like "Rush - hour - light - moment - but!"). This impression didn't last long. 'Sdvinu mir' turned to vacuity within seconds.

Something about her voice seems different. I dunno. Her voice sounds nicer in this song compared to her others in my opinion though.
My first impression was: "Who the hell is singing this?" On a second run I decided it's a chimaera of Yulya's voice and her sound producer's digital equipment. (And I won't try it a third time.)

regigigas1505
12-11-2011, 16:21
Well, I'd like to inform everyone Yulia cancelled all her significant appearences on TV and all that. She was going to MTV, she'd do an online chat on UOL and also perform live and unplugged. All gone now.

Her team says she'll be tired. I say she's lazy and Argos's right about her.

UPDATE: TWO performances were just cancelled. Florianopolis and Porto Alegre. haha can't wait for my city to be the next one! ¬¬
I'm surprised I'm not surprised.

NEW UPDATE: "Not cancelled. They should be rescheduling. Julia's arrival date got changed because of the change in flights. Nothing to worry about." -- says Team Volkova. hmmm

YET ANOTHER ONE: It seems they meant the appearences, not the gigs. I'm confused... We should wait for more information right now.

sakuya
13-11-2011, 00:25
Jesus...

The thing that piss me off the most is that Julia has the X factor. She has it easy. Attract crowds towards her. And what does she do.. Make the worst of russian pop. Lena has to work to have that kind energy in her and it is still not enough. Julia has it, but she don't want to work with it and do it the easy way (as i said, typical shitty pop music, cancellations, lip job etc). It's sad she chose Rubliovka style and have her career as a hobby like every second rich men wife in Russia.

edit:
Flight cancellation thing might be true. For example Simple plan plane to brasil was cancelled as well. If they both are flying from US...

Starrgurl
13-11-2011, 02:02
I actually like the new single better than any of her demos. Is it as strong as Lena's lead single? Probably not. But all these cancelled performances are what's really gonna bring her down. If she would just promote herself right, she could possibly get somewhere.

manatsu103
13-11-2011, 07:02
I like the new single, I somehow think the english version will be better some how... mark
my words. The melody isn't terrible, her voice sounds so young and vulnerable, it somewhat reminds me of a scrapped dvesti po vstrechnoy demo.... I like it... nuff said.

RowerB
13-11-2011, 07:27
After listening to the song about 50 times I’ve decided it is even better than Woman All the Way Down. It has really got me now.

Arnaudfrenchy
13-11-2011, 10:51
I have listened to it 4 or 5 times, i had enough and decided that Rage is even better than this.

michael
13-11-2011, 13:22
Some early pics from yesterdays video shoot:

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/390071_10150361815078022_245290673021_8534583_1809 49062_n.jpg
http://www.juliavolkova.com/eng/wp-content/uploads/JuliaVolkova-AllBecauseOfYou-BurningCar-web.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/390019_301751746510205_164243573594357_1179494_496 287986_n.jpg

Talyubittu
13-11-2011, 18:54
At this point, I'm just going to haha.

I can see her lips are back in those new photos as well.

Funny thing about flights too. Evidently only one plane is headed to wherever she's going from wherever she's at currently. It's only 2011 after all. International flights are hard to come by. Miss one you miss them all! :lol:

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

Starrgurl
14-11-2011, 05:43
Oh god, what is it with those lips? When is she gonna realize that THEY DON'T LOOK GOOD?!

regigigas1505
14-11-2011, 14:07
Starrgurl, that's my thoughts exactly! But, remember, that's because she stopped the surgeries, as thegurgi told us in all his honesty.

Well, unfortunately I have to tell you guys I'm not going to her concert at my city (Belo Horizonte) anymore. That's probably because it won't happen.

I went to the mall yesterday to buy my tickets at the one and only place that was selling it and I was told I would actually be the first one to buy it. No tickets were sold yet. I talked to the lady and she confessed there probably won't be any concert, so I decided I didn't need to pass through a lot of nonsense to get my money back later. Also, it was kinda expensive and I wish to keep my memories from her when she first came to my country. So, that's it. There won't be pics and videos from me, but rest assured -- fans from Sao Paulo and Rio are sure to do it.

EsseAmaAquele
15-11-2011, 14:47
Great News!!!

Julia will be performing live in Russia on December 16, 2011 at 23:00hs. The event will take place at the club-bar "MosConcert". This club is part of "Empire Bar XxxX", the most successful entertainment network in St. Petersburg.

The news were first published at the site Kassir.ru, where you can also read something she said about her shows: "I look forward to the concerts and a world tour. My speech will be different from the t.A.T.u.'s one. This will be a great show with huge screens, and there will be a short film in each of them. I want my fans to take part in these films. I want them to feel they're part of my show, as if they were traveling around the world with me."

Originally published by JuliaVolkova.com.ar Read more here: http://www.juliavolkova.com.ar/2011/11/ ... 1-tbc.html

http://www.mocconcertxxxx.ru/events/2011-12-16/full

convol
16-11-2011, 00:32
Swedish "euro-pop" production or not (which isn't exactly my cup of tea either, to say the least), to me the single sounded like background music to Kirkorov dancing around with badly choreographed, overly made-up dancers on New Wave. Will this have a chance of becoming a hit in Russia?

Edit: Although at least it's melodic...

regigigas1505
17-11-2011, 17:15
So, she's here.

http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/PQAAAMFNghE0ZyBqJpOApdHoHYlZOTP3RXF9wrnJIRp6N4pJlW Nq0x_Aw692TInKzZnzdFVJyhvLiFwQ2Cq0aCXeWdQAm1T1UHfY bN8quhsKWMgljX9WcLrgmseV.jpg

She looks better without makeup, that's for sure.

Oh, and for the record: the Belo Horizonte presentation was just cancelled -- no surprise. Tonight, however, she'll perform in Rio. Videos and more pics are sure to come!

RowerB
18-11-2011, 08:27
Sdvinu Mir now has 736 Likes on youtube and only 288 Dislikes. Yulia is great.

Blakeich
18-11-2011, 19:03
Here is a link of Yulia Singing the English version "All because of you" at her concert but like i dont think its as good as the russian version the english sounds too simple.

I do the things i do, do the things, do the things i do
all because of you, cause of you, all because of you
I do the things i do, do the things, do the things i do
all because of you you.

:(

and then she puts the mic to the audience for them to sing when its the premier of the friggin song so how are they supposed to know the words. I think it was a nervious reaction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P501UXf4x4

manatsu103
18-11-2011, 20:50
I do the things i do, do the things, do the things i do
all because of you, cause of you, all because of you
I do the things i do, do the things, do the things i do
all because of you you.

hahaha. My lyrics for my song "All Because of you" run circles around this one.

But I'm sure it will be my guilty pleasure....

Arnaudfrenchy
18-11-2011, 21:08
"I do the things i do, do the things, do the things i do
all because of you, cause of you, all because of you
I do the things i do, do the things, do the things i do
all because of you you."

LOL !
Seriously :rolleyes:

And i will not talk about the singing... :bum:

regigigas1505
18-11-2011, 21:56
Well, it's sad that she can't sing and everything... Her face, etc., but I'll try to be positive for once.

All the fans who went to the concert were really really happy to see her. They said she was really kind and caring, took pictures even out of the meet&greet.

Here are many pics:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.266291073418769.62679.163875850326959&type=3

They said her version of Bruno Mars song was the best of the show. Also, there were less than 40 people in there, but she was enjoying every minute of it according to them.

They also said her backing vocal sucked and Yulia was rough on her at many times, giving her signals all the time -- like, "shh" LOL

About her face... They said she looked really cute and like a doll blablabla -- me, I think she's a really different person now, not the same face, but yeah, she's still kinda cute. Maybe the time will heal it if she lets it go for once and for all, who knows.

Anyways, I'm glad all the (few) people who went enjoyed and thought the singing was amazing and that she rocked etc. There are more videos to come, too. :coctail:

Update: http://www.flickr.com/photos/driicah/ -- here are maaaaaaaaaaany more pictures.

MalchikGeiBrand
18-11-2011, 23:19
....her back up vocalist has more power than she does during the chorus of All Because Of You.
Like many cases, the live instruments are so much better than the studio recording, in my opinion.
I think she sounded kinda okay at some points but she missed notes and I didn't even notice the lyrics were english. And now that I've read what the lyrics were, I kind of wish I still thought they weren't english... :bum:

At least the audience and Yulia seemed to have fun anyway.

Thank you for the links!

RowerB
18-11-2011, 23:36
Thanks for the link, Blakeich and thanks for the info and links, regigigas1505.

And i will not talk about the singing... :bum:
I like her singing in All Because of You. It has the unique Yulia sound that I crave.

FiorE
19-11-2011, 00:47
seriously she SUCKED on all becasue of you :s it sounds soooo bad, though she did good in loves me not... she needs vocal lessons I didnt understand much when she sang her single in english :S LAME

franb
19-11-2011, 01:30
So, she's here.

http://images.orkut.com/orkut/photos/PQAAAMFNghE0ZyBqJpOApdHoHYlZOTP3RXF9wrnJIRp6N4pJlW Nq0x_Aw692TInKzZnzdFVJyhvLiFwQ2Cq0aCXeWdQAm1T1UHfY bN8quhsKWMgljX9WcLrgmseV.jpg

She looks better without makeup, that's for sure.

Oh, and for the record: the Belo Horizonte presentation was just cancelled -- no surprise. Tonight, however, she'll perform in Rio. Videos and more pics are sure to come!


Scary eyebrows :D

Blakeich
19-11-2011, 03:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWr9PFWoVf8 here is another link for all because of you.


30 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HsbDaKB9dk

prostie Dvizheniya (simple motion over and over)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMuiJb3h95w

MalchikGeiBrand
19-11-2011, 05:33
Aw. I actually really like the new melody Yulia sang in 30 minutes to suit her range.

Thanks for the links!

I think it's kind of cool that she's singing all these old Tatu songs. Even if a project is new, it's kind of nice to have some nostalgia acknowledgements. But of course I hope she focuses on much more totally new material.

fanoff
19-11-2011, 10:31
I'M ok with her performance except ATTSS and ABOY. I like her voice in other videos. She really enjoys WATWD. And reaally nice to hear RB chorus from her.


And the big mystery came to an end. Simple Motions(Over and over) has been performed.

But come on,40 people? That's probably the last time Yulia goes to Brazil, it's such a disappointment. All she could do is focus on Russian showbiz while she has a proper label behind her.

Arnaudfrenchy
19-11-2011, 11:14
I like her singing in All Because of You. It has the unique Yulia sound that I crave.

Yulia could sing in a total shit way you would still like it. :D


But come on,40 people? That's probably the last time Yulia goes to Brazil, it's such a disappointment. All she could do is focus on Russian showbiz while she has a proper label behind her.

Honestly, i don't understand why our dear idols are sticking on south and latin america.
40 people... I performed in front of much more people for my first audition. xD

RowerB
19-11-2011, 13:00
^ The second post you quoted was not by me.

Yulia could sing in a total shit way you would still like it. :D
If she sings in her Yulia way I’d like anything from her. Anyway, the more I hear from this concert the more I like it. Yulia is great.

Arnaudfrenchy
19-11-2011, 18:32
If she sings in her Yulia way I’d like anything from her.

Including all the mess within of course. :D


Anyway, the more I hear from this concert the more I like it. Yulia is great.

:bum:

I wouldn't like to have as my vocal trainer. :gigi:

michael
19-11-2011, 19:17
Yet again we see a performance marred by poor technical and production backup. :blabla:

The next event will be better apparently.

Argos
19-11-2011, 22:22
Honestly, i don't understand why our dear idols are sticking on south and latin america.
40 people... I performed in front of much more people for my first audition. xD
Instead of trying to make possible new fans interested, we hunt for a rapidly desintegrating old tatu fan community until we get a 1:1 ratio of performer vs. audience.

I don't want to comment much on Yulya's performance. I'm with RowerB - Yulya is great! She did hardly anything right, and I don't see that she can change for the better in the near future except for one thing: get her a decent stylist!

Arnaudfrenchy
20-11-2011, 10:26
All these cancellations make me think that Volkova's team should seriously reconsider their choices about south america.
I am done with Julia's career.

I wish her the best but i need quality in music. Not randomness and "oh there were technical problems and we couldn't do anything"
When there are problems, your job is to resolve problems. Not making people here something bad.

fanoff
20-11-2011, 16:52
http://www.juliavolkova.com/eng/wp-content/gallery/sao-paulo-19-nov-2011/img_3205_1.jpg

This might be the best look from her in a couple of years:)

Vicente
20-11-2011, 17:17
She did not promo before the concerts, how she will sell tickets? they (Lena and Julia) have a good fan base here.

Arnaudfrenchy
20-11-2011, 20:57
http://www.juliavolkova.com/eng/wp-content/gallery/sao-paulo-19-nov-2011/img_3205_1.jpg

This might be the best look from her in a couple of years:)

Agree !
I love that !
Red ! :D

Well, the last videos made me think that i still can have a little faith on the music.
I think JTWYA is a cool song. :)

EsseAmaAquele
21-11-2011, 01:51
Videos from SP
Fly On the Wall
http://www.youtube.com/user/terribledreams#p/a/u/1/QdKD5oOK3ZI

Just The Way You Are
http://www.youtube.com/user/terribledreams#p/a/u/0/UevliiObUrA

FiorE
22-11-2011, 01:52
Honestly, i don't understand why our dear idols are sticking on south and latin america.
40 people... I performed in front of much more people for my first audition. xD


here in latin america/south america we are having a huge movement with international acts (american europeans,asians) that many countries havent had AT ALL, so let me tell you that in those countries stadiums get sold out, little performances , get sold out , gigs at clubs are sold out as long as there is enough promotion Latin america is a good market, also a good way to get into the usa and spain, make it big here... ALL latin america and (besides earning a considerable $$$$ )you can get a place on billboard usa and for sure attention in spain... and that´s a way to get into europe.


She did not promo before the concerts, how she will sell tickets? they (Lena and Julia) have a good fan base here.

indeed.

Arnaudfrenchy
22-11-2011, 12:50
here in latin america/south america we are having a huge movement with international acts (american europeans,asians) that many countries havent had AT ALL, so let me tell you that in those countries stadiums get sold out, little performances , get sold out , gigs at clubs are sold out as long as there is enough promotion Latin america is a good market, also a good way to get into the usa and spain, make it big here... ALL latin america and (besides earning a considerable $$$$ )you can get a place on billboard usa and for sure attention in spain... and that´s a way to get into europe.


If you do some promotion and collaboration, yes.
If you want to get fame at the beginning of your career, you can't count on a fan base.

fanoff
22-11-2011, 16:03
Yulia Volkova - Prostie Dvizheniya/Simple Motions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wiNqOulTks

This is epic.

sakuya
25-11-2011, 01:49
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL (http://i44.tinypic.com/2hx2k21.png)

Cant say its not true...

RowerB
25-11-2011, 07:23
Cant say its not true...
The only year you got right was 2011, sakuya. By making those idiotic mistakes you have ruined your wonderful joke.

Arnaudfrenchy
25-11-2011, 10:53
The years doesn't matter. It's not really something to joke actually i agree.

Blakeich
26-11-2011, 02:34
I wish Yulia would sing my verses on her tour :P for english simple motions :P

http://soundcloud.com/blakeich/blakeich-simple-motions

thelastblossom
26-11-2011, 02:46
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL (http://i44.tinypic.com/2hx2k21.png)

Cant say its not true...

lololz!

Starrgurl
26-11-2011, 04:24
So it looks like Yulia's concert was as much of a flop as I expected, but I actually really liked her Bruno Mars cover, even though I've never been a fan of that song. And the ballad version of PD was absolutely beautiful. But what the hell was she thinking with All Because of You?

podnebesnya
26-11-2011, 19:33
so she went to only 2 tour dates out of how many that were scheduled???

Talyubittu
27-11-2011, 00:58
:lol:

RowerB
27-11-2011, 14:27
After seeing a number of vids from the concerts in Brazil I am really pleased. Yulia performed with warmth and assurance. Her singing lessons may have taught her the limits to sing within, but she still has that magic in her voice we heard in the tatu days. The Sdvinu Mir and Woman All the Way Down vids rival the best tatu fan filmed clips. It would have been good to have a clean audio of each show, but that is a minor disappointment. Yulia is great.

thelastblossom
28-11-2011, 07:21
After seeing a number of vids from the concerts in Brazil I am really pleased. Yulia performed with warmth and assurance. Her singing lessons may have taught her the limits to sing within, but she still has that magic in her voice we heard in the tatu days. The Sdvinu Mir and Woman All the Way Down vids rival the best tatu fan filmed clips. It would have been good to have a clean audio of each show, but that is a minor disappointment. Yulia is great.

yes, I am pleased to hear that she still sounds like a old (male) dinosaur. There is nobody like Yulia

RowerB
28-11-2011, 08:30
yes, I am pleased to hear that she still sounds like a old (male) dinosaur
If you have any audio of an old male dinosaur please share. Even a small snippet would do. Must sound great.

Slayer
29-11-2011, 04:04
Some early pics from yesterdays video shoot:

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/390071_10150361815078022_245290673021_8534583_1809 49062_n.jpg
http://www.juliavolkova.com/eng/wp-content/uploads/JuliaVolkova-AllBecauseOfYou-BurningCar-web.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/390019_301751746510205_164243573594357_1179494_496 287986_n.jpg

She really needs to stop plumping those mother fuckers up!!:mad:

JNX
29-11-2011, 17:23
All Because of You (Teaser)
http://youtu.be/mLAkhRIa0MY

so, is she gonna keep using the lesbian image?

Arnaudfrenchy
29-11-2011, 17:56
It looks like a big "déjà vu". :D

fanoff
29-11-2011, 18:26
Shit it looks good.

regigigas1505
29-11-2011, 22:05
LOL the voice edition is GROTESQUE! Her natural voice is a hundred times better than that.

And she didn't work on her accent. pff

About the video... Hmm! Looks hot lol I like the blonde! But, yeah, it's cheap she's still gonna stand behind this lesbian stuff. Anyway, the video seems awesome! Too bad about the song, though. No way she can be taken seriously, artistically at least. I'm glad Lena's heading to a different direction!

RowerB
29-11-2011, 23:05
And she didn't work on her accent. Pff
That is really pleasing. Yulia’s accent is great.

regigigas1505
29-11-2011, 23:58
RowerB, but back in the 2003 times, I mean, on the first record it wasn't really that obvious... Know what I mean? And neither on the second. The third started this! I don't like it, seems wrong.

And the editing, gosssh, they ruined her voice! The russian version was so great regarding her voice, I don't really understand.

RowerB
30-11-2011, 01:04
^ Annoyingly they always seem to overdo the editing. They should just give us her natural voice.

RowerB, but back in the 2003 times, I mean, on the first record it wasn't really that obvious... Know what I mean? And neither on the second. The third started this!
I liked the third the best.

MalchikGeiBrand
30-11-2011, 01:18
omg the voice editing. so blatant it makes me giggle.
that's like... 2% her natural voice.
It sounds like they raised the pitch of her voice by like 1000000000x and added a bunch of garbley-ness and filters and tuning and... guh. Was her raw voice that bad to begin with?
Are singers not offended when the studio edits their voices so much? :p

...the video looks cool though. :gigi:

podnebesnya
30-11-2011, 01:22
cant believe the auto tune, it's just just as ridiculous as her lips and eyebrows.

and her "girlfriend" has man hands and needs a manicure

Arnaudfrenchy
30-11-2011, 12:26
and her "girlfriend" has man hands and needs a manicure

You have no idea how many girls don't care about their hands. :gigi:

I like the filming, the atmosphear. I don't like the theme.
30 minutes / All About Us bis in some way.

thelastblossom
30-11-2011, 15:42
i think she needed the voice editing, much better than the real one

RowerB
30-11-2011, 16:52
i think she needed the voice editing, much better than the real one
That will keep me laughing for weeks.

Arnaudfrenchy
30-11-2011, 20:58
Voice edition is the lamest thing that happened to music. They don't even know what to invent anymore.
I'd rather here people doing some mistakes while singing than a so perfect autotuned voice.

thelastblossom
30-11-2011, 21:55
I'd rather hear a computer sing than Yulia's horrible vocals... now you can still hear her voice without getting goosebumps in a negative way (like scratching on a black board)

Serduchka Fan
01-12-2011, 03:14
I'd rather hear a computer sing than Yulia's horrible vocals... now you can still hear her voice without getting goosebumps in a negative way (like scratching on a black board)

AGREED!

Arnaudfrenchy
01-12-2011, 11:31
I'd rather hear a computer sing than Yulia's horrible vocals... now you can still hear her voice without getting goosebumps in a negative way (like scratching on a black board)

And so, that is the difference between a bad and a good singer. :D

Edgar
01-12-2011, 23:21
I like the new video. :D But I'm wondering How many people have been killed by Lena? :lol: First Never forget, now All because of you. :rolleyes: (All about solo projects is all about t.A.T.u. It's good to know)

Argos
02-12-2011, 15:30
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5Qe6EFl4Us) is :ill:

RowerB
02-12-2011, 18:59
Thanks for the link, Argos.

I like the vid. It is my fave from Yulia’s solo project so far.

Talyubittu
02-12-2011, 20:05
So basically she filmed All About Us again but with an exploding car and a random blonde instead of shooting the male figure.

That and the fact that she sounds like an android for most of the song combined with three filler minutes of random kissing and Yulia sitting on a rug; call me underwhelmed.

Two thumbs down. I expected much more, especially since Sdvinu Mir and All Because of You have been pretty much finished since early 2011. Tragic.

thelastblossom
02-12-2011, 20:22
its quite lame XD

MalchikGeiBrand
02-12-2011, 23:30
I feel like I just watched multiple t.A.T.u. videos in one.
:|

It had an interesting concept...
probably could have worked if Fly On The Wall ever had a video too.

sakuya
02-12-2011, 23:47
as people on tatu.ru suggested. try to put woman all the way down on that video. This song suits it much better.

About the video. No good. terrible editing, lame collaboration of old tatu video and Julia's rubliovka bride style.

Blakeich
02-12-2011, 23:50
Are we gonna get a russian counter part for this video or did she only make it in english?

RowerB
03-12-2011, 00:41
There is little surprise that this video reminds people of tatu. Yulia was the voice of tatu and that familiar sound is really strong here.

About the video. No good. terrible editing, lame collaboration of old tatu video and Julia's rubliovka bride style.
Great post, sakuya. Good to see you’ve become a Yulia fan.

Are we gonna get a russian counter part for this video or did she only make it in english?
She did the singing scenes in Russian also.

convol
03-12-2011, 04:20
It's always good to see Rower8's optimistic messages, but I can't help, not being very optimistic about this video, i.e. I can't ignore the feeling that it feels extremely cheap.

How about someone buy Yulia a mixer, a computer, a decent sound card, and a midi compatible keyboard and let her play around a little and hopefully become interested in the creative process of music herself?

Talyubittu
03-12-2011, 09:44
How about someone buy Yulia a mixer, a computer, a decent sound card, and a midi compatible keyboard and let her play around a little and hopefully become interested in the creative process of music herself?

:love:

little_polar_bear
03-12-2011, 12:25
Being counterproductive here as quite some others, too, but I was really happy when watching that video. Maybe I have become really desperate, but I am more than glad that Volkova is healthy and alive in her video. It's actually pretty nice and of course she resembles ideas of t.A.T.u. - she loves what she did with t.A.T.u.. and to portray herself completely different might put the few fans off she still has. She doesn't change her image with that video too much because she doesn't intend to and I for one appreciate this decision a lot.

It is one thing to be critical but another to constantly bash about anything. As Greg said it is destructive, but you all are still here maybe because also Yulia still means something to you and it sounds lame, hell yes, but tolerance means that you accept changes. It is hard, it is hurtful, but that's life: moving on. So, relax and watch or continue being - not sarcastic - but undignified. I'm not addressing anyone in particular, because I am too old and tired of reading it.

Again, Lena has her old team - we know them and they've learned loads during t.A.T.u. - see what Zhenya is doing now - I assume she's doing a hell of a job (in comparison to 2008 for example). We know very little if nothing about Yulia's team and they might be starters. Who knows? It is just as ridiculous to me to praise one girl with the same team that we loved to hate for ages - but they changed apparently, why can't we at least change our attitude a bit? Cheers.

Arnaudfrenchy
03-12-2011, 13:06
she loves what she did with t.A.T.u.. and to portray herself completely different might put the few fans off she still has.

I have always said it. The fans are never capable to think different, which is a pity for the artists.


She doesn't change her image with that video too much because she doesn't intend to and I for one appreciate this decision a lot.

I think she is showing a very bad image about her.
What the hell are these toilets on the background of her website ?


It is one thing to be critical but another to constantly bash about anything.

Sometimes, i understand why some people are bashing constantly. Sometimes, it's annoying to read always such too much incredible positive comments. Well, i used to do it too when i was young, i don't blame but sometimes it's just to hard.

I stopped comparing works of both girls now. It's useless. And lead always to wars between fans. As for Julia's video, i liked the atmosphear. But that's all.

Slayer
04-12-2011, 11:21
She looks terrible with her Lips :( and i'm kind of sick of the fake i'm Bisexual/Lesbian role she is trying to do i guess at some point she realised she needs the Gay thing and act like a cock tease to lift her carreer up to bad :(
Read This (http://englishrussia.com/2009/01/23/plastic-lips/) they Listed her with the other bimbos i want my julia back :'(
She was perfect then she fucked up her face (http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/julia-volkova-lips-nose.jpg) even her nose is bigger!!! and she tattooed her mother fucking eyebrows on her fucking forehead what the fucking hell is wrong with her? I think she has body dysmorphic disorder poor Julia!!!!!!!!:dead:

that's a lot of fucks on one sentence huh?

Slayer
04-12-2011, 11:35
See she was a Lesbian Schoolgirl :heart: at first now she's a Fucking CamWhore :help: (http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/027/f/c/yulia_volkova_2002_to_2011_by_nagisa2345-d386rxo.jpg)

Arnaudfrenchy
04-12-2011, 13:02
that's a lot of fucks on one sentence huh?

A way to much for the rules ! :D :gigi:

Slayer
04-12-2011, 13:53
A way to much for the rules ! :D :gigi:

i know but i couldn't help myself sorry :o

sakuya
04-12-2011, 14:30
I think when you start to do those things its hard to stop. At least everyone who tried to change their bodies says that.

cientyandgienty
04-12-2011, 16:57
neiter sex nor rock.
it's shitty pop.

RowerB
04-12-2011, 18:25
I’ve read a few peoples views on the video here, but I’m not really sure if they like it or not. It would be easier for me to understand if they gave it marks out of ten (1 bad – 10 good). The vid grows with watching. I give it 9/10.

btw. It only has 368 dislikes on youtube. See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5Qe6EFl4Us

podnebesnya
04-12-2011, 18:57
I’ve read a few peoples views on the video here, but I’m not really sure if they like it or not. It would be easier for me to understand if they gave it marks out of ten (1 bad – 10 good). The vid grows with watching. I give it 9/10.

btw. It only has 368 dislikes on youtube. See here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5Qe6EFl4Us

i cant believe it got over 58,000 views in 3 days, that's really good....

podnebesnya
04-12-2011, 19:03
She looks terrible with her Lips :( and i'm kind of sick of the fake i'm Bisexual/Lesbian role she is trying to do i guess at some point she realised she needs the Gay thing and act like a cock tease to lift her carreer up to bad :(
Read This (http://englishrussia.com/2009/01/23/plastic-lips/) they Listed her with the other bimbos i want my julia back :'(
She was perfect then she fucked up her face (http://www.awfulplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/julia-volkova-lips-nose.jpg) even her nose is bigger!!! and she tattooed her mother fucking eyebrows on her fucking forehead what the fucking hell is wrong with her? I think she has body dysmorphic disorder poor Julia!!!!!!!!:dead:

that's a lot of fucks on one sentence huh?

can someone please tell me who this is? i am very interested:

http://englishrussia.com/images/plastic_hell/5.jpg

Arnaudfrenchy
04-12-2011, 19:52
The vid grows with watching. I give it 9/10.


And tomorrow, it will be 9,25/10. :D

RowerB
04-12-2011, 20:14
i cant believe it got over 58,000 views in 3 days, that's really good....
It is on the Ello channel, which is said to have over 80000 subscribers and vids with more than six million views.

Talyubittu
05-12-2011, 03:27
i cant believe it got over 58,000 views in 3 days, that's really good....

Mental image of 10 Yulia Volkova fans refreshing YouTube for 72 hours straight.

Arnaudfrenchy
05-12-2011, 11:20
Mental image of 10 Yulia Volkova fans refreshing YouTube for 72 hours straight.

Exactly.
I think people should seriously stop thinking that youtube is a good way to measure artist success.

I can even imagine another exemple :

MSN/facebook convo :
"take a look at the new volkova's song"
"well, sorry i am not really into volkova"
"no no no ! believe me, this one is great"
"okay...."

5 minutes later

"it's completely bad... i don't like it"
"but she got 1 more view !" :D

:gigi: :gigi:

RowerB
05-12-2011, 12:53
Mental image of 10 Yulia Volkova fans refreshing YouTube for 72 hours straight.
I don’t know why you posted that as off topic. I think the high number of views can be explained by a number of factors:
15 tatu fans refreshing youtube for 72 hours straight.
A fair number of people giving it a glance out of curiosity.
Another large number making vodka fuelled errors and clicking the wring link.

Exactly.
I think people should seriously stop thinking that youtube is a good way to measure artist success.
Maybe not success, but I think a better way to grasp the full magnitude of Yulia’s popularity is to check the views of the fan filmed vids from the Brazil concerts, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrcS1zKZfSE

Talyubittu
05-12-2011, 20:28
It was just some comic relief, really. But I do suspect there is some truth to the original comment I made as well.

RowerB
06-12-2011, 08:27
Wow!! The vid now has 139,275 views on youtube and only 599 dislikes. Go Yulia!!!!!

JNX
08-12-2011, 20:42
Russian Version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLyEHl3YM4

regigigas1505
11-12-2011, 01:43
Despite being a t.A.T.u. mix, I like the video! The paranoid blondy is clearly the spotlight.

It's funny reading some people commenting on such childish topics like Yulia X Lena and view counts... Someone with a record company obviously have the advance -- it's a well-known channel to begin with. Also, it has lesbian kisses. Naughty girl! :o

The song? Boring to death and beyond.

Lena's still the interesting one... But kudos to Yulia for marketing herself as "scandalous" LOL ain't it the truth! :lol:

RowerB
19-12-2011, 22:16
Any doubts I had about Yulia being the greatest thing that ever existed were totally blown away by watching the vids from St Petersburg.

Arnaudfrenchy
20-12-2011, 11:15
Any doubts I had about Yulia being the greatest thing that ever existed were totally blown away by watching the vids from St Petersburg.

You speak about the woman who constantly gives the microphone to the crowd because she is unable to sing during an entire show ? :gigi:

RowerB
20-12-2011, 11:43
You speak about the woman who constantly gives the microphone to the crowd because she is unable to sing during an entire show ? :gigi:
You just don’t get it, Arnaudfrenchy and nothing I can say will change that. Yulia is the best there has ever been. I’m sure of that now.

Arnaudfrenchy
20-12-2011, 16:58
That's funny but i have thought the same about your case. :laugh: :p

Champagne ! :coctail:

RowerB
20-12-2011, 20:51
You are a singer, Arnaudfrenchy. You know about music. You’ve been told what to think is good or bad in a performance. I’ve seen this before from people who are educated in music.

From watching the vids from St Petersburg, Yulia’s performance genuinely impresses me. Maybe her singing is crap according to all your rules, but the only thing important to me is the sound and the sound is spellbinding.

Arnaudfrenchy
20-12-2011, 22:57
You are a singer, Arnaudfrenchy. You know about music. You’ve been told what to think is good or bad in a performance. I’ve seen this before from people who are educated in music.

For my concern, i would love to sing more and in a professional way.


From watching the vids from St Petersburg, Yulia’s performance genuinely impresses me. Maybe her singing is crap according to all your rules, but the only thing important to me is the sound and the sound is spellbinding.

I have listened to the videos. Yulia didn't sing "crap". At least, she is singing live which is far better for me than the playback. She is not lying and it's great. There are part where she sings good. But others she is not on the tune.
Then i really don't understand why giving always the microphone almost on each songs. You do it one or two times and it's great. But on each songs. :(

And one more thing : Yulia has indeed a really beautiful voice and don't you think it would be even better if she was training it ? ;)

RowerB
20-12-2011, 23:47
Then i really don't understand why giving always the microphone almost on each songs. You do it one or two times and it's great. But on each songs. :(
I think Yulia considers herself to be an entertainer. She certainly got the fans going in St Petersburg, but she has to be able to sing for herself if the audience is not responsive. I like seeing the interaction on the vids, but it would have been better if she had sung more of Fly on the Wall.

don't you think it would be even better if she was training it ? ;)
I have changed my view on this. I used to think she should have no training. I was afraid she would lose the magic from her voice. Thankfully that has not happened, so I think more training may be a good thing.

It’s clear she has been working on her voice. She has found it’s limits and has altered the tatu songs to suit it.

thelastblossom
23-12-2011, 01:03
You are a singer, Arnaudfrenchy. You know about music. You’ve been told what to think is good or bad in a performance. I’ve seen this before from people who are educated in music.

From watching the vids from St Petersburg, Yulia’s performance genuinely impresses me. Maybe her singing is crap according to all your rules, but the only thing important to me is the sound and the sound is spellbinding.

Its not only people educated in music. It is not just subjective vs objective, there is such a thing as intersubjectivity... there is a common agreement that a singer who cannot sing even in tune and lacks every capability , is not a good singer. Of course you can make up all the notions of a good singer to your own taste but then there is no discussion possible at all and there is no use in communicating in music; which is fortunately not the case. It would be saying things like: the tree in my backyard does not exist, only my great mind does (which may be true since men does not know the objective truth if there is one)... communicating the way you do about yulia does not make sense in this world.

I agree that the vocals are very personal whether they emotional 'hit' you or not, but wouldnt it be even better if this voice is both techniqually good or at least OK, AND the expressiveness? I think these two do strengthen each other and I disagree that Yulia can be classified as a great singer.

Personally, i dont see a point in listening to a techniqually great singer if it sounds like a machine (to my own perception) like Sarah Brightman... most important is the emotions that it can evoke like Faye Wong to me (also the combination with the music is important, the music is probably even much more important imo) and this will not happen to most people with decent ears with a voice like Yulia's.

RowerB
23-12-2011, 07:46
most important is the emotions that it can evoke
Spot on. I need to remember that argument. Listening to and watching the St Petersburg performance gives me an enormous lift.

Edit:
I download an flv to mp3 converter and now I have all Lauiii and tatushnik’s clips in mp3. I numbered them so they play in the order of the set list and for the last couple of hours I’ve let them wash over me while I’ve been at my computer.
Conclusion: Yulia is great.

Arnaudfrenchy
23-12-2011, 12:29
Generally, when you listen a thousand times a thing, you should have developped your opinion by arguments instead of saying "Yulia is Great, Yulia is magnificent, Yulia is great, Yulia is magnificent" 7 times in a row.

Yulia is not great. She will be by improving. For me she is just average.
I agree with thelastblossom.

thelastblossom
23-12-2011, 14:21
RowerB may find Yulia great, its really in the eye of the beholder... What I was trying to say is that he should not claim that Yulia is a great singer, because that is something more than subjective. Although of course ''everybody'' will laugh everytime he says how great Yulia is. I know I do :P

RowerB
23-12-2011, 14:44
Generally, when you listen a thousand times a thing, you should have developped your opinion by arguments instead of saying "Yulia is Great, Yulia is magnificent, Yulia is great, Yulia is magnificent" 7 times in a row.
What are you talking about?

he should not claim that Yulia is a great singer,
I don’t think I have claimed that. What I do claim is that Yulia voice produces a magical sound that can stir the emotions in a really good way. Therefore Yulia is great.

thelastblossom
23-12-2011, 16:57
I don’t think I have claimed that. What I do claim is that Yulia voice produces a magical sound that can stir the emotions in a really good way. Therefore Yulia is great.

cheers

Argos
23-12-2011, 20:49
For me she is just average.
Really? To force somebody to watch the whole performance without a break is certainly a death sentence. Worst performance ever! :ill:

obez17
23-12-2011, 21:09
Really? To force somebody to watch the whole performance without a break is certainly a death sentence. Worst performance ever! :ill:

I just don't understand how her voice got so much worse from 2008 until now. It seemed to be improving when she was in t.A.T.u. Now she can barely hold a note. It's so sad to watch.

Arnaudfrenchy
23-12-2011, 23:22
What are you talking about?


About nothing. :D

Really? To force somebody to watch the whole performance without a break is certainly a death sentence. Worst performance ever! :ill:

Well yes, i have seen better from her for sure.
I meant average... well okay low for this time. :bum:

One thing that i can say : Tarja is REALLY uber GREAT ! :coctail:

thelastblossom
25-12-2011, 04:30
About nothing. :D

One thing that i can say : Tarja is REALLY uber GREAT ! :coctail:

offtopic: yes I like Tarja too,.. she has a DVD out, live with harus... with the christmas songs,.. really nice during this time of year

RowerB
25-12-2011, 09:25
I meant average... well okay low for this time. :bum:
I suggest you wait until Argos has told us what to think next time.

One thing that i can say : Tarja is REALLY uber GREAT ! :coctail:
I looked at a youtube vid called TARJA TURUNEN & HARUS "You Would Have Loved This" (Live)
The only thing she had in common with Yula was there was no SML kick. If that is typical of her sound then it is not for me. Apart from Yulia, the only other artist where I like almost everything she has done is Melanie, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1PKA2tn1Ms

Back to those who say Yulia needs to improve. I worry that any “improvement" on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAMfzlI3MWk would be a step in the wrong direction.

Merry Christmas one and all.

Arnaudfrenchy
25-12-2011, 17:47
I suggest you wait until Argos has told us what to think next time.

haha. :bebebe:


I looked at a youtube vid called TARJA TURUNEN & HARUS "You Would Have Loved This" (Live)
The only thing she had in common with Yula was there was no SML kick. If that is typical of her sound then it is not for me.

Did i say i wanted to compare them ? 0_o It wasn't even my goal.
Then i suggest you to look at Tarja Turunen when she was in Nightwish. Of course, if you don't like "Metal Symphonic" and "Lyric voice", no need to waste your time.


Apart from Yulia, the only other artist where I like almost everything she has done is Melanie, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1PKA2tn1Ms

That's cool. :) Authentic.


Back to those who say Yulia needs to improve. I worry that any “improvement" on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAMfzlI3MWk would be a step in the wrong direction.


You can think whatever you want RowerB, you are wrong.
"You've got to show me your "WAAAAYS"... => OUCH"

RowerB
25-12-2011, 18:35
Then i suggest you to look at Tarja Turunen when she was in Nightwish.
I listed to the youtube vids: Tarja Turunen *song: Nightwish - Angels Fall First* and nightwish - sleeping sun. I don’t mind that style too much, but I don’t think I could take too much of it the way she sings it. The end theme to Laputa The Flying Island has a lot more clout: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVMGvnsNWmw&feature=related

you are wrong.
Obviously I think I’m right. That Running Blind blasts the both album versions out of the water.

If I am wrong however, there is something majorly amiss with this world.

Arnaudfrenchy
25-12-2011, 19:30
I listed to the youtube vids: Tarja Turunen *song: Nightwish - Angels Fall First* and nightwish - sleeping sun. I don’t mind that style too much, but I don’t think I could take too much of it the way she sings it. The end theme to Laputa The Flying Island has a lot more clout: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVMGvnsNWmw&feature=related

Listen to Phantom of the Opera.
Of course Laputa is great. But not the same style.


If I am wrong however, there is something majorly amiss with this world.

The main problem is that you don't even want to admit that you could be wrong. So i would say what is amissing here is a bit you.

RowerB
25-12-2011, 20:19
Listen to Phantom of the Opera.
You should have said that in the first place. I gave the youtube vid: Nightwish "The Phantom Of The Opera" with lyrics about two seconds. I can’t stand actual opera and that sounded close to that. God-awful. If you meant a different Phantom of the Opera please post a youtube link or this could go on forever.

The main problem is that you don't even want to admit that you could be wrong.
I’ve seen loads of negative comments about Yulia’s performance since the show. Even people who’s opinion I respect have said she did a bad job. I think they are all wrong. I don’t think they have given the performance a fair viewing. I watch the videos a lot and there is no way I’m going to turn into a liar and say she was poor, when to me she did a great show.

If you went on a forum and everyone said that Tarja Turunen was crap, would you think you were wrong about her? Would you change your view about her, as we’ve seen you change your view about Yulia, to fall in line with knockers?

Arnaudfrenchy
25-12-2011, 21:09
You should have said that in the first place. I gave the youtube vid: Nightwish "The Phantom Of The Opera" with lyrics about two seconds. I can’t stand actual opera and that sounded close to that. God-awful. If you meant a different Phantom of the Opera please post a youtube link or this could go on forever.

Seek yourself. :rolleyes:
Of course, i meant Nightwish. Well, if you think it's awful, then i can't do nothing for you. :blabla:


I’ve seen loads of negative comments about Yulia’s performance since the show. Even people who’s opinion I respect have said she did a bad job. I think they are all wrong. I don’t think they have given the performance a fair viewing. I watch the videos a lot and there is no way I’m going to turn into a liar and say she was poor, when to me she did a great show.

I don't ask you to turn into a liar. I ask you to get a bit of mind and being enough smart to find the for and the against. And especially, not to look like a mindless fan. I am sure you don't care about what people think of your opinion, but sometimes, what you say is just ludicrous.


If you went on a forum and everyone said that Tarja Turunen was crap, would you think you were wrong about her?

Tarja Turunen is a lyric singer that has trained her voice a lot like Nathalie Dessay, Anna Netrebko, Romando Villazon etc...
So she can't be a crap. Of course, there are days when she is not really into it.
This is human. Actually, the only time when Tarja was talked as a crap is when she left nightwish lol. But i admit she did bad performances.

Something you never admitted about Yulia when it was the evidence.


Would you change your view about her, as we’ve seen you change your view about Yulia, to fall in line with knockers?

I will still think that Tarja is a great singer. But i can say when she is not doing really great.

For yulia :
THIS performance was bad.
That doesn't mean she is a bad singer. At least, she sings live which is better for me than a complete playback crap.

MalchikGeiBrand
25-12-2011, 21:41
I do not know if I find those backing dancers awkwardly cute or cheesy
...
I just never imagined Running Blind a dancing song. :gigi:
Oops. She also accidentally sings Rage a key higher than the backing for a little bit... it's almost like 2003 eurovision all over again (although back then I think it was Lena accidentally singing higher)

I don't think her voice is bad though. She has nice power and energy going on at some parts.

RowerB
26-12-2011, 02:04
I ask you to get a bit of mind and being enough smart to find the for and the against. And especially, not to look like a mindless fan. I am sure you don't care about what people think of your opinion, but sometimes, what you say is just ludicrous.
I really can’t see why what I say could been viewed as ludicrous.
For me Rage was a bit flat, but I was happy with the rest of the show. That means in my opinion she did a great job. What am I supposed to say?

thelastblossom
26-12-2011, 02:21
I think you two are both talking about different things and using different criteria to judge music. What RowerB is trying to say is that he likes it, therefore it is good (to him). You cannot argue on that because there is no objective. But of course, techniqually (in the eyes of music literature and most music lovers) Yulia IS a crappy singer and even britney spears fans can hear that Yulia is a bad singer.

offtopic: Tarja Turunen's solo work is great too I believe, not the christmas CD but the winter storm album... very spheric and full of emotions

RowerB
26-12-2011, 08:18
I think you two are both talking about different things and using different criteria to judge music. What RowerB is trying to say is that he likes it, therefore it is good (to him). You cannot argue on that because there is no objective. But of course, techniqually (in the eyes of music literature and most music lovers) Yulia IS a crappy singer and even britney spears fans can hear that Yulia is a bad singer.
Thanks very much. thelastblossom. Finally someone with some sense. Maybe he will shut up now.

Arnaudfrenchy
26-12-2011, 13:03
Thanks very much. thelastblossom. Finally someone with some sense. Maybe he will shut up now.

Unfortunatelaty i will not shut up.
It's funny how you are trying to make me look like someone with nonsense. (my feelings of course)
I have NO problem to admit that you like what Yulia is doing actually. Absolutely great for you.
Of course, artists need people like you who support them whatever they are doing.
I have a problem when you are trying to change people opinions about Yulia. Sorry, but this is the way i feel regarding how many times you remind us how Yulia is great, magnificent, AWESOME... when someone post a negative critic about her last performance.

spyretto
28-12-2011, 08:15
I think it's really a shame if Yulia has totally busted her voice and can't sing properly anymore let alone scream in the songs - which was a trademark in the Tatu style. But I think it's a little harsh to compare a totally professional show like Lena's - where her voice also seems to be a little augmented technically - to what looked like an impromptu karaoke style performance captured on very poor quality media. ( was that really a "proper" concert? )
The material that Lena is singing is pretty good but it's a deviation from Tatu into a more mainstream pop/rock domain, whereas if there was any hope that some of the old vibe of Tatu would be retained that would have to certainly come from Julia. She was in essence the voice of Tatu - singing in most of the choruses either alone or with Lena - and the screaming was trademark. If there is still an opportunity she should try to fix her voice otherwise her career might be cut short.

Lena on the other hand is very serious about her career and is improving in her live shows, her band looks more tight than before although some of the new songs are ok-ish but nothing that would blow me away. Waiting to listen to the full album whenever it's released to have a more rounded opinion of it. It's more to do with her charisma as a singer that can carry these songs but as I said they don't remind me of Tatu at all.

Now about Julia's looks, she was the hottest little thing on the Prostie Dvizheniya video but I don't think either that she will turn into a parsnip by 2020. ;) It's her voice she has to work on, if she can. Her song is ok.

And these are my two cents on their solo careers for now. I wish we could turn back the clock and Shapovalov would find a way to make a sophomore album that would be equal - if not better - than the first one. If I had a time machine I'd certainly do that. For now lets enjoy what they can give us -mostly from Lena.
As for the theme of Julia's vid, yes, a little deja vu but somebody has to remind us of the old times. ( wasn't kissing a black guy though in the old videos, was she? )

RowerB
28-12-2011, 10:14
Good to hear your views, spyretto
( was that really a "proper" concert? )
I think this was the sort of performance the fans were expecting. It was similar to the November show in Sao Paulo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdKD5oOK3ZI&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL
I like that style.

The show in Rio de Janeiro was a bit more remote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH7MaG7IkqE

spyretto
28-12-2011, 10:23
Thanks for the update.
These are all bootlegs shot from the crowd's perspective, when they record properly then we can perhaps make a comparison but not right now. The last one sounded better, I think the song is also better.