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fanoff
16-11-2011, 17:51
I can't believe we're so close to 2012, years pass too quick:)

We can discuss about your countries' participations and songs.

We already have Ivı Adamou for Cyprus and Miro Smajda for Slovakia.

Miro's song called Baby is nice to me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ifT5pSQhyw

fanoff
29-11-2011, 20:32
France decided to send Anggun to Eurovision this year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsqAKPjye4U

Arnaudfrenchy
30-11-2011, 12:27
Great ! We will not win ! :D

No money to spend on Eurovision in France. :o

Argos
30-11-2011, 18:50
France decided to send Anggun to Eurovision this year

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsqAKPjye4U
I found a new torture method.

fanoff
30-11-2011, 20:22
I found a new torture method.


It was not the right song to introduce her, shame on me:) You should know this beautiful song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHXyPTmliNs

fanoff
07-01-2012, 23:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3-JT-8iDG0

Spain will send this beautiful lady with wonderful voice.

fanoff
10-01-2012, 23:41
Argos, send Trackshittaz this time!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezwJT68jB_w

Argos
11-01-2012, 11:43
Argos, send Trackshittaz this time!!
No chance, I guess. Their song is just average, not like last year's hit. Add the fact that Vienna's gay community decides who will represent Austria (and those guys hate rap and rock), and you'll have no doubt about their perspective.

9 out of 10 candidates are now known. You can compare their performances at their introduction this Monday here (http://www.eurovision-austria.com/?p=3212). The favourites are the first one, "!DelaDap" (made the best impression to me) and the last two, Valerie ( :bum: ) and Conchita Wurst ( :bum: :bum: :bum: ), the darling of the aforesaid community. The 10th competitor will be from rapper Sido's artificial band out of his tv casting soap opera 'Blockstars' (currently running on Austrian TV), with absolutely no chance, they are a hopeless case.

In summary, "!DelaDap" have the only decent song, but are like most Austrian candidates just for small stages, while "Trackshittaz" are the only ones able to perform on big stage, but with a song not even worth mentioning.

fanoff
11-01-2012, 20:46
I think Trackshittaz is still pure fun! Worse than last year, I agree. This kind of weirdness from Austria went very well in 2003 and gave its best placement in last years, why can't it do it again?

fanoff
16-01-2012, 18:34
And what about Russia, Argos?

Argos
17-01-2012, 19:40
And what about Russia, Argos?
Russia's candidates are usually introduced very late, and the selection will be on February 26, so it is a bit early for the question, but in contrast to the last years we have already some names in the media, although nothing is known about their songs. Polina Gagarina, one of Russia's best singers, newcomer Sergej Savin, who is protege of Alla Pugachova, Nastya Zadorozhnaya (Neposedy friend of Lena and Yulya), Buranovskie Babushki, the Ukrainian Quest Pistols and the rock groups Zveri, Haki and Fadeev's emo-band Kit-I are among of them.

But best of all, somebody out there (not in a tatu forum!) told that the only promising candidate would be Yulya Volkova - she has the voice of an opera-diva. :laugh:

sakuya
17-01-2012, 19:50
Im not gonna be surprised if she appear there frankly :D

fanoff
17-01-2012, 22:01
OMG I love Quest Pistols and I hope very much that they will be selected sometime!!!!

Argos
19-02-2012, 18:50
Yesterday I watched the Ukrainian decision, more to watch the next scandal than for musical reasons. Well, no scandal unfortunately, but quite a good competition. It lacked the really great songs and performances but the quality of almost all the songs and performances was at least above average, even the bloody amateurs were hardly any worse than the professionals.

The winner is Gajtana (Gajta Lourdes Essami her true name) with the song Be My Guest (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4HwYGCkiBY), by far not one of her best songs, but she showed as always a remarkable stage presence.

Second was Max Barskih with Dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuHL0nP4bpM). A good entry, but not exactly a winner song.

The opera singer Oksana Nesterenko became third, with a song from the German ESC-composer Oldie Ralph Siegel, Mondo Blu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhngfivdqv0). Great voice and not a bad composition.

My personal favourite was Renata Stiefel with the song Love In Sunlight Rays (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5TTmh6FWkU), not only because it was written by Alyosha, who represented Ukraine in 2010. Unfortunately the young lady is practically unknown, so she didn't even have to expect a lot of SMS votes, however she won that part of the vote with huge margin. The professional jury obviously had a presentiment of that and voted her only at No. 16 of 21 contestants, the total result was No. 6 then. Seems very unfair, but it's understandable. Which neighbour country would vote for her in Baku, if nobody knows her?

My highlight of the evening was in the part during the voting with Zlata Ognevich's performance of One Day (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lguX_iyaDZk). Her producer composed the song for Eurovision, but after the nerve-kililing scandal of last year there was no way to persuade her for another ESC competition.

fanoff
22-02-2012, 20:57
Max was way better than this shit.

Turkish entry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYryT0w2XTc

Argos
26-02-2012, 19:50
Trackshittaz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeB-IIciJVs) won the Austrian selection against all odds and Baku is spared the performance of the beard-woman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3jfmcXeylk). Anyway, the song contest will never be the same any more. The village disco rappers will change Eurovision forever with their "Shake your bum!" (Woki mit deim Popo!)

Their self-evaluation: "We don't meet the highest standards!" (Oh really? :D ). Whatever, The future of ESC is rural-proletarian! :coctail:

fanoff
28-02-2012, 20:57
Romours say that Yulia Volkova :) has recorded a song with Dima Bilan for Eurovision.

Argos
29-02-2012, 17:38
Romours say that Yulia Volkova :) has recorded a song with Dima Bilan for Eurovision.
Unfortunately it's not a rumour anymore. Dima's officials hinted that the song will premiere in two days.

So far the almost sure (better known) candidates for next week's selection will be Karina Koks (ex-Slivki), Shinshilly, Elena Terleeva (yummy!), Buranovskie babushki, Bilan & Volkova (ouch!), Timati & Aida (help!), Ed Shul'zhevskij, 4Post, probably Pavla, Mark Tishman.

Alltogether - looks like a desperate crowd. Russia has again serious trouble to get interesting artists for the selection.

sakuya
29-02-2012, 17:41
I like Ed Shulzevskij and Mark Tishman. Yul and Dima.. Hmm.. I don't think they will win but I guess it's good for their careers. Let's hope the song is not as shitty as aboy

fanoff
29-02-2012, 22:21
I would love to see them in Eurovision. Would be a reason to watch but I don't have high expectations because it's a hard competition in Russian selection.

Argos
01-03-2012, 21:21
Ok, Russian selection on March 07, 2012 - the list of the desperados:

01. Lena Maksimova
02. Ksenona
03. Irson Kudikova
04. Group "The UPS"
05. Sardor
06. Group "4Post"
07. Efrosiya
08. Group "Unite It"
09. Katya Savel'eva
10. Ol'ga Makovetskaya
11. René
12. Duet "Farinelli Balls"
13. Polina Smolova
14. Chinkong feat. Karina
15. Marie Carné
16. Mark Tishman
17. Ed Shul'zhevskij
18. Elena Ekimova
19. Yuliya Volkova & Dima Bilan
20. Riff Action Family
21. Aida & Timati
22. Pavla
23. Duet "Syostry Syo"
24. Group "Buranovskie Babushki".
25. Group "Jet Kids"

This will gonna hurt for sure! Looks quite embarrassing. Some of the good people obviously retracted their submission, like Sergej Savin and Lena Terleeva.

I like Ed Shulzevskij and Mark Tishman.
Mark Tishman's ESC entry (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrSHUK_KRTs).

fanoff
04-03-2012, 16:26
Mark Tishman's ESC entry.

I don't honestly think that Dima&Yulia's song will be worse than this :)

Argos
05-03-2012, 20:06
I don't honestly think that Dima&Yulia's song will be worse than this :)
It's written by our already well-known Swedish quintett, so definitely not a musical disaster (though not really creative, I suppose). What I heard so far from the possible entries of the others it seems to become very ...eh... hard to get used to. Buranovskie babushki or Dima&Yulya, that's what I would guess. With Dima and Yana very close to the leaders of the channel chances might be even better. Depends probably whether Yul can give a good live performance or not.

fanoff
06-03-2012, 22:58
Depends probably whether Yul can give a good live performance or not.

Made me laugh :D

sakuya
06-03-2012, 23:10
Made me laugh :D

Well if she has her "backing" singer :D

fanoff
07-03-2012, 11:29
From the rehearsal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXqKYomSceA

Not bad! and Yulia could sing in tune:)

sakuya
07-03-2012, 16:01
I can hardly hear her. LQ. Lets wait for tonight. So far I think I will like the song. I always liked these kind of ballads. And I have nothing against Dima. I even like his first couple of albums.

sakuya
07-03-2012, 20:55
Julia Volkova ft Dima Bilan - Back to her future (live @ Russian eurovision final) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmUsIC59Ms&feature=youtu.be)

edit: I edited link with HQ one

Argos
07-03-2012, 21:04
What do you have to do as channel "Rossiya's" bosses, if you want Dima another time at the ESC? Let only the worst of Russia's showbiz perform against your favourite and wait for the people's choice - total shit or Dima?

On the bright side - Yulya did NOT blow it! She was a sexy and seducing partner for Dima and did her part well (within the limits of her vocal abilities, of course). Waiting for the decision...

...and the dental prothesis gang (horrible "song") won considerably ahead of Dima & Yulya and Timati & Aida. Sorry. wrong decision!

sakuya
07-03-2012, 21:46
You were wrong argos. Buranovskie babushki won :D

Argos
07-03-2012, 22:01
Buranovskie babushki won :D
...with their worst thing ever. That's something for a beer party, not for a song contest! By the way, besides the Bilan-Volkova performance I liked only the somewhat exotic entries (The Ups - ok, the singing wasn't perfectly clean, Farinelli Balls, Riff Action Family and the Syo Sisters). The rest was as expected - simply dispensable.

fanoff
07-03-2012, 22:09
It's pure fun and totally understandable that Babushki have won. But Dima&Yulia would score much higher in the real contest. So no chance for Russia to win, I predict it will be out of top 10.

Argos
07-03-2012, 22:13
It's pure fun and totally understandable that Babushki have won.
Yes, Trackshittaz and the hopping grannies, ESC is on the way to a monkey business :bum:

sakuya
07-03-2012, 22:47
And with the latest British entry it's like retirement home...

In Russia, we look after elderly. But we don't send them to Eurovision

(c) Julia on German entry. Eurovision 2003. Oh, how wrong she was!

obez17
07-03-2012, 23:20
BAHAHAHA too funny. But I did like their performance. Yulia looked nice! Too bad about the old ladies 0_0

spyretto
10-03-2012, 14:12
Will it be more ridiculous than last year - if that is even possible?

Argos
10-03-2012, 20:41
Will it be more ridiculous than last year - if that is even possible?
It will really hurt this time! :bum:

spyretto
12-03-2012, 12:37
haha, I'm thinking what it should be...
but it's like a car crash as they say, you can't stop watching

Hope we get at least something remotely decent this time around. The Greeks are sending a song this year at all?

Argos
12-03-2012, 19:22
The Greeks are sending a song this year at all?
Should be announced today.

Update: bueeeh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICn_l7yOrrw

spyretto
13-03-2012, 05:19
she will be in a Sirinakis porn video before too long :lol:
you'd think the idiots would stop partying and think of their situation
But then again we'll get plenty of points - just make sure the camera angles are exactly the same for the final ;)
the second time you listen to it sounds boring already, so keep the camera low.


anyway thanks for the update, Argos

Argos
13-03-2012, 20:38
I can't believe that the Greek selection was just a match between those 4 cackling chicken acts! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SLT_nf8buk&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLCF0F1CF3B0A56E68) You would think that the crisis frees creative forces, but it seems that this is the first thing which went down the river. :bum:

spyretto
14-03-2012, 07:14
Forget the Greeks, they're a lost cause.
Turkey sending anything "good" this year?

fanoff
15-03-2012, 00:05
Turkey sending anything "good" this year?

we are sending this. not very suitable with my taste

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjzHVgJd7t0

spyretto
19-03-2012, 10:14
LMAO, Ireland are sending Jedward again :lol:
The boys can't sing and they're talentless attention-seekers, they'd do anything for airtime... after this and Lena last year I would consider making it as a rule that the same "artists" can't compete in consecutive years...this song is even worse than last year's song. Hopefully when they realise they can't win this one they give up and do something else...give us some breathing space.

Pfff

The Turkish song sounds more like a Serbian song - ahem it's a bit of a mess
still better than Jedward

oh well, anything that you liked so far?

I heard a preview of the songs now, I'd like to listen to the French and Italian songs in full. Anggun, isn't it the same girl who had a world music hit a few years back? Snow on Sahara? The French must be desperate to get some recognition but the big names they've send so far have failed miserably.
The Cyprus song is probably better than the Greek one. Same difference.

Lots of terrible songs from Eastern Europe so far, no originality whatsoever, just like the crap the West has been sending for years. It looks like they're getting tired of Eurovision too.
The problem with that is that the Eastern bloc is sending terrible songs now but they will still vote for them. That will possibly leave us with another terrible song as a winner, unless they find a decent song to unite behind.

spyretto
19-03-2012, 11:09
Ok, maybe the Turkish song is not my style thiis year either but I like how the Turks are always willing to introduce experimental styles of their music to the Eurovision audience - and they're doing it again this year - something that the Greeks are always unwilling to do, so they send the same song over and over and over.

I think Turkey has approached the ESC with an open mind in recent years hence their success at the contest. Chapeau.

Then again I always think that this contest is something important for music, whereas in fact it's just a circus parade...I'm so deluded.

fanoff
19-03-2012, 21:55
Sweden is the hot favourite. The song is called Euphoria.

spyretto
20-03-2012, 14:33
Sweden is always overrated :p

Is it as good as this classic though :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZJt6Gv4XPk

where is Verka Serduchka when you need her

fanoff
20-03-2012, 16:19
Yeah this is the first Swedish entry that I actually like:)

Argos
20-03-2012, 17:24
...as good as this classic though :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZJt6Gv4XPk
Alf Poier was the last intellectual who performed at the ESC (probably the first as well). You will likely never see such an entry again. Spoofing the whole spectacle he prepared for a zero-points party at home. To his dismay Europe loved this. In memory of this eco-bio song from 2003...

Some animals have wings,
And others have fins.
Some lie outdoors
And others in tins.

Poetic... :love:

spyretto
23-03-2012, 23:13
I do appreciate Alf Poier now, though not at the time, i have to admit...I still don't get those Lithuanians though.

spyretto
24-04-2012, 10:18
I think this year will be better than last year...hopefully. I like a few songs already, Iceland, Sweden and Cyprus to name but a few.

fanoff
21-05-2012, 18:43
OMG the week we all waited for has come already! It's the first semi final tomorrow. Take your picks who will make it to the final :)

sakuya
21-05-2012, 19:56
Nowdays I just watch eurovision because of grams comments (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P23amkpSrNs)

spyretto
22-05-2012, 19:23
I saw the Cyprus rehearsals and to me it looks like 1.40 on Cyprus to qualify is a safe bet but no-one can be certain when partisan fools are voting.

Who's watching?

Argos
22-05-2012, 19:44
Among the many violations of human rights committed in Azerbajdzhan there will be a new dimension of cruelty - the Eurovision Song Contest. :D

Preparing to record...

spyretto
22-05-2012, 19:48
It's curious though, what would stop the disgusting turd sent by Russia this year from finishing last if it was sent, say, by Austria or Switzerland? nothing in my opinion.

Move it a couple of thousand miles to the East and they're almost favourites to win the whole thing.

Argos
22-05-2012, 19:53
When it comes to jury voting, maybe they'll not be impressed, but the televoters likely will vote for the most embarrassing songs everywhere. May the worst ones win! :coctail:

spyretto
22-05-2012, 19:59
Why so negative, Argos?

I think they're good songs this year, like the UK for example

I'm serious

Argos
22-05-2012, 20:02
I don't think that the good songs will win, there are too many Jedwards, Buranovo grannies, Trackshittaz and Co. :rolleyes:

P.S. Not to forget the Montenegro guy ...

spyretto
22-05-2012, 20:11
I'd vote for the hapless Montenegro guy to qualify instead of the Jedpunks, I like them that much.

spyretto
22-05-2012, 20:17
Greece safely to the final, although the song is for the dogs.

Argos
22-05-2012, 20:21
Ethno-hopsa-pop with thin voice - she may win! :D

spyretto
22-05-2012, 20:25
wow, Albania, what the ffff...

was that even a song?

Argos
22-05-2012, 20:27
Cruel - but her vocal performance was great.

spyretto
22-05-2012, 20:29
What's the difference between the Romanian song to the song Austria sent a few years ago? That one was better and the singer wasn't half naked.

spyretto
22-05-2012, 20:31
Cruel - but her vocal performance was great.

yeah, it can lull you to sleep every night.
Not sure if I wanna see her and -especially - hear her again.

Argos
22-05-2012, 20:31
My ears are already bleeding, the next ethno hopsa.

The Swiss guys sound like Star Academy casting show trying rock - it's getting better and better! :D

spyretto
22-05-2012, 20:34
A poor man's the Killers and a beggar's Depeche Mode?

no, it's the Swiss entry :lol:

spyretto
22-05-2012, 20:38
hmm, I like Belgium, although a bit out of tune?

Pleasant voice.

Argos
22-05-2012, 20:39
...and they have sworn that they wouldn't torture during ESC! Belgium - :bum:

I forgot to mention Israel in my most horrible list, obviously.

After my second bottle I even like Cyprus! :D

Denmark one of the good entries. Even if it' veeery pop.

Russia - No false teeth fallen on the floor. Sigh of relief.

Hungary not bad either.

spyretto
22-05-2012, 21:11
I liked Cyrpus but I was afraid that her boobs would pop out

So Austria now is offering us a soft-porn Linz rap extravaganza

Argos
22-05-2012, 21:15
... Linz rap extravaganza
Not exactly - Muehlviertel rap, which is the rural region just north of my city, and the people there are believed to be the greatest idiots of Austria. And they were baad. :bum:

Jedwards lost their chives?

spyretto
22-05-2012, 21:18
Moldova, oh dear.

They left us the worst for last, it's Jedbullcrap

They're ready for the big one

Argos
22-05-2012, 21:21
What was worse - the competitors or the commenters trying to speak English (and French)? :D

spyretto
22-05-2012, 21:21
Not exactly - Muehlviertel rap, which is the rural region just north of my city, and the people there are believed to be the greatest idiots of Austria. And they were baad. :bum:

Jedwards lost their chives?


the equivalent of chavs in England? :p

spyretto
22-05-2012, 21:24
I think my bet is safely through....

gosh Albania is sooo annoying

spyretto
22-05-2012, 21:28
I think Cyprus was the best on the night...I'd vote for them for the top 5 in the final, the question is where are they gonna get votes from.

But great effort from them

Argos
22-05-2012, 21:29
gosh Albania is sooo annoying
...I wish you'll hear it again! :gigi:

Well, I'm not going to die for any of the entries of today, but I think at least Hungary and Denmark deserved it to be in the final.

spyretto
22-05-2012, 21:32
As I suspected, even if Moldova sent a turd lipsinging they'd still take them to the final...1.28 to qualify, that nonsense?

they must have great neighbours

spyretto
22-05-2012, 21:34
...I wish you'll hear it again! :gigi:

Well, I'm not going to die for any of the entries of today, but I think at least Hungary and Denmark deserved it to be in the final.

I'll probably hear it in the final again ;)

So what did the idiotic commentator from England liked? San Marino and Israel :rolleyes:

ok, afterwards he also said Cyprus and Denmark were good

Argos
22-05-2012, 21:40
So what did the idiotic commentator from England liked? San Marino and Israel :rolleyes:
Your guy has taste! Oh,dear! :bum:

Romania, Cyprus, Iceland, Hungary, Denmark, Albania, Cyprus, Greece, Russia, Ireland - in the final.

spyretto
22-05-2012, 22:06
Well, I was hoping for a minute that the potatoheads would be out but it wasn't to be.
At least Israel and some of the other bullcrap didn't make it but Belgium was kinda slaughtered, I think.
Will go back and watch it once more to make sure.

Poor francophone countries are getting rubbished time and again, I'm surprised they keep on sending songs.

spyretto
22-05-2012, 22:10
My best friend is Russian he told me "that's not a Russian song, it has no emotion and no dark side to it."
and he didn't like it at all.

I'd like to know who votes for it - besides the gimmick.

Argos
22-05-2012, 22:19
I'd like to know who votes for it - besides the gimmick.
More than half of the ESC viewers is over 70, and they can't hear a single note. :laugh:

Oh and not to forget - who'll vote for a klaxon? The same people! And you have to bear her again! :hah:

spyretto
23-05-2012, 18:52
My personal top 10 so far

1) United Kingdom
2) Sweden
3) Spain
4) Italy
5) Serbia
6) Iceland
7) Turkey
7) Fyr Macedonia
8) France
9) Cyprus
10) Denmark


the rest of the eastern euro bloc suck balls ( to put it nicely ).
Some people will be disappointed though that the contest is shifting towards a more musical emphasis and less on the act/gimmicky side of things...so maybe they will rally behind the singing grannies

sakuya
23-05-2012, 23:13
I enjoyed denmark and hungary from the first semi final. Jedward put a great show even though I hate em.

P.S gee, Event host accent and the way he speaks about baku + clips about the country reminds me of Borat movie :bum:

spyretto
24-05-2012, 15:32
I expect the second semi final to be a lot better tonight, my money is on f.y.r.. macedonia to go through.

Argos
24-05-2012, 20:33
Totally bored by now. I'm tempted to zap and look some crime series. :rolleyes:

...and now chalga granny Sofi destroys my mood completely. :ill:

spyretto
24-05-2012, 20:34
didn't realise how bad Ukraine was till she sung it...no problems in getting to the final then.

Argos
24-05-2012, 20:38
didn't realise how bad Ukraine was till she sung it...no problems in getting to the final then.
Yes, with such a great voice and not a single good song that I know from her.

And now half the today's competition is over and not a single interesting performance. :bum:

Sweden not so bad, a little bit too a-a-a-a. Seems that she has Tourette syndrome :D

Georgia - my longest three minutes this evening - meh!

spyretto
24-05-2012, 20:59
Sweden was good, maybe not as good as the hype suggested but it was alright.
...how can the Turkish guy have pyrotechnics on stage and the poor Bulgarian woman nothing? That's not fair is it.

Argos
24-05-2012, 21:01
...how can the Turkish guy have pyrotechnics on stage and the poor Bulgarian woman nothing? That's not fair is it.
She is too old. If something bad happened, she wouldn't be off the stage in time. :D

Slovakia's scrap metal singer forgot to tune his vocal chords, but at least something different.

spyretto
24-05-2012, 21:08
hmm, it started well but at the end of the day he was just a poser :p

spyretto
24-05-2012, 21:10
I think out of the similar pop boy band style like Belarus, Malta etc Norway has the most catchy song.

Argos
24-05-2012, 21:11
Norway's hopping girls were definitely better than the singer.

The last one is definitely the worst.

Malta, Sweden, Turkey and Norway should be qualified, and because almost all ex-Yugo countries are in this semi, I expect all five of them in the final too. And the tenth - I don't really care, lameness up and down the list.

spyretto
24-05-2012, 21:20
The Lithuanian guy looked a bit unhinged so we got one less to worry about for my Macedonian bet.

spyretto
24-05-2012, 21:25
Norway's hopping girls were definitely better than the singer.

The last one is definitely the worst.

Malta, Sweden, Turkey and Norway should be qualified, and because almost all ex-Yugo countries are in this semi, I expect all five of them in the final too. And the tenth - I don't really care, lameness up and down the list.


You're forgetting Ukraine... why Malta? Malta was very high odds to qualify. Seeing it now though they dropped all the way to 2.40 so they probably will.

Argos
24-05-2012, 21:28
You're forgetting Ukraine... why Malta? Malta was very high odds to qualify.
Gajtana song was a cruelty, and she wouldn't have much neighbour voters. Malta had a good presentation and the west loves them.

spyretto
24-05-2012, 21:31
Gajtana song was a cruelty, and she wouldn't have much neighbour voters. Malta had a good presentation and the west loves them.

Lets hope so..Estonia too i think vocally really strong.

Argos
24-05-2012, 21:35
The Netherlands were so retro, maybe there are many televoters from the retirement home.

It's over:
Lithuania, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Serbia, Ukraine, Sweden, FYR Macedonia, Norway, Estonia, Malta and Turkey in the final.

spyretto
24-05-2012, 21:57
Lithuania, oh dear dear
Turkey is the last one

spyretto
24-05-2012, 21:59
All this suspense nonsense just to tell us that Turkey is through...please

spyretto
24-05-2012, 22:02
Which goes to prove that even if Ukraine throw a donkey on stage they'll still qualify.
Undemocratic countries are big hits in Eurovision.

Argos
24-05-2012, 22:03
After watching the two semifinals I'm convinced that the winner will be among those who we didn't hear so far.

spyretto
24-05-2012, 22:04
Nobody likes the Dutch and nobody votes for them, Argos...especially when they drop some retro crap from their Indian reservation.

Slovenia, Croatia had good enough songs to go through but they can't vote each other in any more so...
Glad my bet won again, I always do well in semis, bad in finals

Argos
24-05-2012, 22:06
Which goes to prove that even if Ukraine throw a dinkey on stage they'll still qualify.
Undemocratic countries are big hits in Eurovision.
She was loud, granny did hear her!

spyretto
24-05-2012, 22:24
After watching the two semifinals I'm convinced that the winner will be among those who we didn't hear so far.

I put some coins on Italy on the back of their last year's good result and Spain has a really strong performance but I reckon Sweden will win...considering the partisan voting and all.

I also think people wanna see a good show, and some fresh ideas otherwise it's more or less a karaoke competition. Only Turkey and Georgia had something to show on stage tonight and even that was subdued.
This year so far has looked a lot like a karaoke, half-decent songs and performances but no surprises whatsoever. Bulgaria was the most obvious example, how can you have a dance song and sing like it's karaoke? Iceland also, such a strong song but such a unoriginal stage presence...where was the passion?

Common, bring back the show.

fanoff
25-05-2012, 10:38
Sweden has already won it.

spyretto
26-05-2012, 22:10
My impressions of the performances tonight

UK: It's certainly a dark horse, it was more or less what I expected but the good thing is that he nailed the last few high notes towards the end. top 10 if he's lucky.
Hungary: A good contemporary tune and nice performance, it seems to be growing on me with every listen, not bad. Top 10? maybe
Albania: Surprisingly enough, I kinda enjoyed her performance tonight but I'm a little drunk
Lithuania: Ok-ish song but I wasn't impressed this time around
Bosnia/Herzegovina : Nice performance and all but a little boring and too retro for my taste.
Russia: Cute surely, but I have not been convinced. I'd rather see another song win
Iceland: Great song, still not convinced this is the right stage performance.
Cyprus: Very nicely done, I think that was even better than the semi
France: When you have a good song and singer, putting those gymnasts is very distracting in my opinion.
Italy: Nice, but nothing to set the house on fire
Estonia: Amazing vocal performance, wasn't a fan of the song but I gotta admit I enjoyed the performance.
Norway: Not as good as I expected, still a nice song but I think Malta will surpass it.
Romania: Not a fan of the song, nothing wrong about the performance which was alright.
Denmark: She gotta lose the hat and I dunno, it could have been better, still passable.
Greece: Well done but definitely not as good as Cyprus.
Sweden: The winning song right there or the whole of the ESC audience are idiots.
Turkey: Catchy song, alright performance. Top 5?
Spain: Standout vocal performance, a bit of a boring song but a vast improvement over recent years
Germany: Nice song and nice performance but nothing extraordinary for sure.
Malta: One of the better performances of the night, party song, it could make the top 10
Fyr Macedonia: Very well done, but reaching the final was probably the best it could do.
Ireland: Annoying brats. not as good as last year but some people seem to like it. I'm biased, though.
Serbia: Flawlessly done, should normally be a top 5 song.
Ukraine: Still annoying, perhaps not as much if you're drunk though.
Moldova: One of the weakest songs of the night, nothing that I saw tonight can make me think otherwise.


Verdict is: Agree with Argos: Sweden should clinch this comfortably.

Argos
26-05-2012, 22:21
In stead of a prediction, my personal favourites of the show:

Italy (great singing, much charisma) and Sweden (could have been my single favourite, but the a-a-a was a bit annoying, and maybe a bit too much movement for this song, else it was next to flawless).

Other top performances were Albania (yes, the siren: you have to get used to it, but the song is extremely difficult, and Rona does it with extreme confidence and mastership, with a good sense of drama, although I'm not exactly loving the song itself), Estonia (very expressive, much sympathy), Azerbejdzhan (quite impressed by her singing, and the song was one of their best. If I ever gave the impression that Swedish composers are mediocre, in this song and a few others of this competition they proved they can actually write good music), Denmark of course (even the band members made a good impression on stage, the singing was very good ), Spain (another good Swedish song and a remarkable singer), and last but not least Kaliopi from Macedonia (great singing with much charisma).

spyretto
26-05-2012, 22:29
I missed Azerbaijan, had the pizza in the oven :lol:
was it really that good?

Anyway, Malta for me in place of Denmark and I didn't see anything wrong with Sweden's performance, at the end of the day she's just a little woman and she's no Kate Bush...but she certainly had my attention...as did the Albanian girl.

spyretto
26-05-2012, 22:36
Belarus giving 10 to Ukraine and 12 to Russia :lol:

Argos
26-05-2012, 22:41
Most of Russia's neighbours have already voted, so my hopes are intact that they won't win.

spyretto
26-05-2012, 22:42
Iceland, Norway, Denmark zero points? what are they smoking in Europe?

Argos
26-05-2012, 22:46
Iceland, Norway, Denmark zero points? what are they smoking in Europe?
iceland and Norway were not really striking with a good performance, but Denmark, that's disappointing.

Haha, the typical votings have not changed, some countries are completely predictable. Professional jury prevent gross neighbour voting? Ridiculous!

spyretto
26-05-2012, 22:52
yeah but Iceland had a great song...but never mind, they voted for the grannies who had the cookies in the oven...so whateva...surely they can raise the money they need to save their church.

As long as Sweden win, I'm happy with that.

Can you imagine the bookies would give 1.30 for Sweden to be the first nordic country and 2.40 for them to win after the end of semi final 2?

Argos
26-05-2012, 23:01
Well, Sweden is through now, congratulations. Sorry for Engelbert though, he wasn't so bad as the points let him look.

spyretto
26-05-2012, 23:28
Yeah Englebert was fine but maybe not the right song for Eurovision...that should be a wake up call if anything else for them, they have so many talented musicians, they should give this task to a contemporary artist and give them full control if they want some success in this competition.

Nobody likes Sweden either but they had the right song this year.

spyretto
26-05-2012, 23:44
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Haha, the typical votings have not changed, some countries are completely predictable. Professional jury prevent gross neighbour voting? Ridiculous!


Greece will always give 12 to Cyprus and Cyprus 12 to Greece, they're zenophobic ignorants and it doesn't matter if they have a jury, a telephone audience, a bunch of hillbillies or intellectuals voting, the outcome iis always gonna be the same. I personally wouldn't give 12 points to Cyprus tonight though I enjoyed the performance but at the end of the day as our world is getting more screwed up every day and the poor buggers feel the need to vote politically you'll always gonna have that kind of thing.

Credit to the Azerbaijanis there were no boos this time around about any of the rigged voting but it might be that they were staring at the barrel of a gun :(

Anyway, Stockholm next year, till next time then :)

Endri
27-05-2012, 00:05
In stead of a prediction, my personal favourites of the show:

Other top performances were Albania (yes, the siren: you have to get used to it, but the song is extremely difficult, and Rona does it with extreme confidence and mastership, with a good sense of drama, although I'm not exactly loving the song itself).

Yes! The more I listen to it, the more I like it! We are so proud of Rona, and we are surprised (most of the people didn't like the song and the idea that she would be our representative mostly because it is a sad song and she keeps saying "let me cry") But she did a good job indeed. Who knew she had these vocal capabilities.

The verse before the chorus is fantastic.

spyretto
27-05-2012, 00:21
Yeah, she did well, especially considering how annoying her performance was in the semi, they took a step back for the final performance and it did work for her really well....

fanoff
27-05-2012, 21:42
So Loreen got the second most points in Eurovision history after Rybak:) I voted for her three times and happy that we(Turkey) gave Sweden 6 points:)

And an interesting info, One of the composers of Euphoria, Peter Boström was included in the composing team for Norway's entry and Norway came last this year. Technically he came first and last at the same time :D