Lena Katina Solo Project [Archive] - Page 4 - Unofficial forum of group TATU

Joha84

02-06-2010, 22:19

Here are some of my videos. I'm still uploading them...

1. Running Blind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNa4869deq0
2. Fly On The Wall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lscJ2_YYxDk
3. All The Things She Said http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkVo1XQGYPE
Sorry about the next one. I tried to fix it but my windows movie maker SUCKS. I'll try to do it better later. Also, there's a 2 seconds problem almost at the end.
4. World http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42VP84Lmk_Q
5. Craving http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEYrPA8QtIU
6. Cosmos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCM9URdQTWM
I loooove this one.. I asked if they were going to play it at the fan meeting lol!
7. How Soon Is Now? <3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMWsBbNTKM8
8. IRS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c19yiePUqGc
9. Just a Day - her favorite song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JGqZuqfIxM
10. Lost In Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSY71tgRg5Q
11. Show Me Love http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pArxgQtSmTk
12. So Not Cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke8l5ZKLSxM
Introducing Her Family http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CmgEHtjVm8
The next few songs were recorded with another camera. The first one went nuts and I had to rush to record Stay.
13. Stay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQAaw9rKt7g
Encore http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqf6eaq2Nb0
14. 30 Minutes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQM-1LekoPc She meant chair and not cheer lol...
15. Not Gonna Get Us http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpesuDJeGYQ

They had too many audio problems and her moves sort of reminded me of the early days of Yulia Savicheva...

franb

03-06-2010, 00:12

Thank you superb quality :D

Can't wait to see the rest :)

regigigas1505

03-06-2010, 01:40

Thanks a lot, Joha84!

Well, but did you think it was great? Did you think her singing was OK? Were there many people or not so much? Did everyone like it?

Sorry. :gigi:

Oakfoobar

03-06-2010, 03:40

To me, "IRS" definitely seems to have potential. Lena looked like she was really enjoying that part of the performance! ^_^ So nice to see her growing into this new phase of her career...

Starrgurl

03-06-2010, 03:48

This user has the entire concert in pretty good quality.

http://www.youtube.com/user/JHunts#p/u/16/FNa4869deq0

Joha84

03-06-2010, 04:23

When I got to the Troubadour there was a huge line to get inside. I was mad for getting there late but I had some friends already in the first line, so I was one of the "first" ones to get in. There were also other people going in before anyone else. I'm not sure who they were. The place was not full, but it wasn't empty.

Overall, the concert was pretty good in spite of all the problems they had. It happens and Lena managed it well.

This user has the entire concert in pretty good quality.

http://www.youtube.com/user/JHunts#p/u/16/FNa4869deq0

Yes, that's me. I hope other videos come out soon. I saw many people with really good cameras there.

regigigas1505

03-06-2010, 18:06

Thanks for the report!

And there's also an article about the performance. Positive one! It also says Lena managed to fill the place more than Fall out Boy could when they performed there. Glad! :)

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/160250

HuMENology

04-06-2010, 02:20

I'm glad her solo project is moving along so fast I wish her the best. I'd love to see the videos from the concert but youtube hates my laptop oh well maybe in time it will stop acting up on me.

MalchikGeiBrand

04-06-2010, 22:19

Ah ah ah! Thanks so much for the videos and reviews/quotes everyone!

I can say I am pleased. Definitely more interesting than how I expected.
Yeahhh, Lena needs to work on her stage presence more - but at least in some songs it looks like she's trying. She'll especially need this whenever she performs for a bigger, less familiar crowd, like PrideFest.

I'm liking the new Lena songs. Can't say anything bad about them, but I probably won't get into them to a bigger extent until we hear the songs officially released in studio quality.

I'm glad she's working so much with the band, and the two backing singers seem really cool. I find it a little ironic the backing girls hairstyles kind of look like Lena's and Yulia's hair in their early years... :p I like how the whole group feels more intact and personal with the fans, as opposed to the Tatu days.

regigigas1505

05-06-2010, 01:09

Maybe you people are being too hard on her? Her stage presence was really above-avarage for my tastes. She did it better than a lot of artists. I don't want her to be a dancer like Gaga or Aguilera; a performer is perfect to me, and she does it pretty well.

I like what she did... Really surprised me. She was really herself and enjoyed everything a lot. Which just means a lot!

MalchikGeiBrand

05-06-2010, 04:43

Well, yeah, her stage presence is definitely better than the "random-walking-random-mic-to-the-audience" choreography back in the late Tatu days. :p She did have a presence and I could feel her from my little monitor, but sometimes it feels like she doesn't really know what to do... If that makes sense. I dunno. I think GaGa looks funny too when she dances sometimes, but I'm still a fan of her. XD
It's cute whenever Lena does that crazy dance she always does during the drumbeats of NGGU, a little odd looking, but it shows she's having fun at least. I guess a good audience will have fun "dancing silly" with her too.

Argos

05-06-2010, 09:50

Lena was good enough for a beginning, especially if we accept that she is not exactly doing pop. In pop-rock people usually don't jump around and play the Punchinello (my, my, which artist do I have in mind? :laugh: ). If I compare her with other Russian ladies in that genre (A-Studio, Chi-li, Gorod 312, to name the most successful), she doesn't stand behind them. She isn't confident enough at the moment, but experience will change that soon. The only real big flaw - burn her wardrobe, eeeeek! :bum:

Starrgurl

06-06-2010, 02:52

No, World is a completely different song. Watch the videos.

MalchikGeiBrand

06-06-2010, 05:58

Bahaha. I didn't think her wardrobe was that awful! Nothing interesting but nothing that struck me as ugly. Just rather plain... And something that someone much older would wear. I figure Lena wants to be viewed in a mature fashion, but still.

I like her look when her hair kind of flips and she's wearing a flattering dress, like in Cannes. I can't believe that was over 2 years ago. :|

...And does she dye her hair or does it just change colors naturally? Totally random pointless question. I understand it's sad how most of my posts are about hair.

Starrgurl

08-06-2010, 01:13

She dyes her hair, I've seen them turn it many different colors.

Now does anyone have pictures of the performance?

elaktronnye_k

08-06-2010, 02:07

I think it was pretty good... and I never expected Lena to dance as much as she did, hehe. It's kinda of kirky, but nice. I hope she works a bit more into making everthing more cohesive.

The outfit, oh gosh... Why couldn't she use some of the stuff from her shoot or something? THOSE SHOES ARE HORRIBLEEE and make her look not that good. And we know how gorgeous she can be...

Her hair was pretty nice, though :)

Love u, lenka

sakuya

08-06-2010, 15:57

Her hair is most fabulous thing in this performace.. IMO most of stars envy her them *with no extensions*cough*

regigigas1505

09-06-2010, 15:58

Johanna won the writing contest for a dinner with Lena Katina on her official website.

Thanks to http://lena.allmylove.org/ for this.

Report: Dinner with Lena Katina

From all the 8 years that I’ve been a t.A.T.u. fan, at some point I asked myself and with other fans that I’ve met throughout the years, what would it be like to have a private conversation with Lena or Yulia. Well, it turned out to be that (yes, even though I only had dinner with one of the girls) they‘re really nice people and bossy at times too. Why I say that? Ask Lena when it comes to her food.

My dinner with Lena was in a Japanese restaurant in Studio City. She loves sushi and that’s really an understatement. However, it wasn’t at the restaurant she wanted. Why? It was closed due to Memorial Day. I'm sure you want me to get to the point. What did we really talk about? In short, we talked of things in general. I didn’t want my dinner to turn out to be like an interview. That’s boring and I wouldn’t have enjoyed to have a scoop of how her life really is like. But one thing is for sure - thanks to God for the Dirty Dancing movie (please, do correct me if I‘m wrong). When she saw that movie she wanted to be a dancer and didn't hesitate to tell her mother, but as life works in mysterious ways, at the end she did not only danced but sang as well. Here a star was born.

We all know about the beginning of her career but for me it was a treat to hear it from her. I’ve always wanted to know if her friendship with Yulia truly began at Neposedi. Why? Because for me there’s a big difference between knowing someone because she is in the same room and to actually talk to someone and become friends. The answer to that - yes, they were friends. I also asked why she decided to do her solo career now and not after the Dangerous and Moving album especially with all those great demos she recorded. Well, she had thought about it before and actually recorded a few (I think she said ten) demos with her father but at the end decided against it to stay with t.A.T.u. It wasn’t until after waste management/happy smiles (whatever you want to call it), she and Yulia finally decided it was time for them to do their own thing. They were bored. We have to remember they have been together for more than 10 years and that is a really long time. As Lena said, “it is impossible to work in two projects at the same time,” and, as I could tell, she will only be working in her solo career for now which I believe she deserves the opportunity to do so. And to tell you the truth, she seemed really happy about her new endeavor with Troy and Sven - her second family. She’s also happy with the backup singers which they had an audition for and she personally chose them. Lena is really serious about this, guys. She is taking care of her voice, practicing a few hours a day, and has actually stopped smoking since February. We all know that bad habits are hard to quit so let as all wish her the best of luck, and, most of all, strength.

In case you were wondering about her thoughts of the concert in LA, our girl was really nervous and the audio problems she had at the beginning didn’t help at all. She did also recognized they had a lot of sound problems, but, overall, I believe she did a pretty good job. Of course, she as a musician knows it could have been much better. She told me herself.

And for the fans that play instruments, I asked her if they will release sheet music for their new material because we all know how difficult it is to get the ones from t.A.T.u. She said it was a good idea and would consider it. I hope she does! I really hope so!

Hum… What else did we talk about? It’s hard to put everything down because I write something and then remember another… Aha! I'm sure you're going to like this one. I asked her if she only dated Russian men and if she wanted to date men from other countries. Sorry guys but unless you’re a great cook, know how to make great sushi, and consider cooking for her every single day, there are no chances for you if you’re not Russian or consider living in Russia. But at this moment, who knows… She’s enjoying her time as a single lady and is putting all her energy in her solo career.

So, yes, that’s all I thought it was important to write if anyone cared to read this.

Lena, if you read this, because I know you don't like computers that much. I want to thank for choosing my story for whatever the reason was at the moment you did it. My brother and I enjoyed the dinner and I hope you sincerely did too. This is something I will never forget and is a story I would tell my kids if I ever have them. Besides, you said you can picture me as a mother. I also do picture you as a good one as well. I really hope you find the right man, and one that would cook every day haha... (I need to find one with those qualities too hehe...)

And Olga! Wow… You look amazingly young! Blame this comment to Lena hehe… Please, consider in giving me the recipe.

Take care and wish you the best of luck!

Pics after the dinner:
Me - http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/J ... C03924.jpg
My brother - http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/J ... C03926.jpg

Pics of the fan meeting:
Me - http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/J ... ing023.jpg
With Lena - http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/J ... ing004.jpg
Oh la la - http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/J ... ing012.jpg
Sveny! - http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/J ... ing021.jpg

My brother:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d76/J ... ing031.jpg

Those were the three most happy days of my life... The fan meeting, the concert, and the dinner. I cannot ask for more.

Talyubittu

10-06-2010, 03:46

Her hair is most fabulous thing in this performace.. IMO most of stars envy her them *with no extensions*cough*

Who do you know that envies looking like a grease monkey?

Argos

10-06-2010, 21:50

When did you have your last hard laugh? Ok, then it's paparazzi - time! (http://www.paparazzi.ru/blogs/posts/10060626.html)

Tatugirl Beat Her Stylist

The ex-soloist of the group t.A.T.u., Lena Katina never stood out due to violent temper, but this time she got beside herself and created a scandal disproportionate to her calm character.

Literally the other day the debut of Lena took place in one of the most famous clubs of Los Angeles "Troubadour". More than a year of work in the studio brought it's result, the album of Katina is practically ready for release. To it's honour the manager of the singer was able to organize the first big solo performance. To take no risk, relying on Lena's taste, they hired a stylist for her, who repeatedly came to assist stars of world class, Cary Fetman.

Everything went by in a somehow speedy manner, and Lena, not able to orientate herself, found herself in a horrible and boring attire on stage. The fans accepted her new songs with hurray, but scathingly critisized the apparel of Lena on the fan party, which took place after the performance, at the household of one of the musicians of the project, Troy.

The Tatugirl returned to the studio in a not at all sober condition and created a scandal attacking the stylist. The justification, which Cary gave to her defence sounded like this: such a sack-like figure is difficult to wrap up presentably. Better go in a fitness club than shove anything in the mouth what comes along.

MalchikGeiBrand

11-06-2010, 01:42

LOL WAT.

That's pretty bizarre. But how much of this article are we supposed to believe and expect to be confirmed?

Flo181

11-06-2010, 20:38

Pridefest Mix of Lost in this Dance: www.lena-katina.com

Download and enjoy.

Don't know how it happened to us but we're here again
The odds are stacked we have to believe there's time
With the sun going down behind buildings surround it's like a tomb
I won't give up till I find what I'm looking for....tonight

You and I must find each other

Even if I'm blind from glaring lights
Even if it takes all night
Lost in love with you
Do you know the way that I should turn
Do you know that I have learned
I'm lost in this dance with you

Making my way through the city streets (they're) so loud and rushed
Passer-bys that resemble your face deceive
Pull your picture from my pocket to remind myself, no need for clues
I keep on searching, it's you that I'm looking for...tonight

You and i must find each other

Even if I'm blind from glaring lights
Even if it takes all night
Lost in love with you
Do you know the ! way that I should turn
Do you know that I have learned

I can see that you can see a love that can't compare
Really isn't fair after all

Even if I'm blind from glaring lights
Even if it takes all night
(Lost in love with you)
Do you know the way that I should turn
Do you know that I have learned
I'm lost in love with you
Looking up and down and all around
Looking for what can't be found
Lost in love with you
Shadows on the wall appear to be
But shadows never what they seem
I'm lost in this dance with you

MalchikGeiBrand

11-06-2010, 22:44

Wow, it literally says "Download and enjoy"

But thank you! And wtf is with the survey they give us before the download... The management has too much fun.

Heads up, in the survey, you have to have a working email 'cause it emails you the song. You don't directly download it from the site. o_O
In the question that said "What the hell are you doing here?" I of course answered with "To download and enjoy"...

Blakeich

12-06-2010, 00:22

OMFG this song is so beautiful. I love it. Thank you lena :D

thelastblossom

12-06-2010, 13:23

bravo to lena for offering the mp3. the production could be better but its okay. she is taking the solo project very serious. good girl

fanoff

12-06-2010, 14:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoLVQzAgfTU

For those who doesn't want to deal with Zhenya's stupid survey:)

manatsu103

12-06-2010, 18:51

A very pretty song!

regigigas1505

12-06-2010, 20:02

I kinda expected more regarding her vocals. It actually sounds more emotional than ALL of t.A.T.u.'s 3rd album songs, but I expected something more, uh, impressive.

I'll stuck with the live versions.

UPDATE

Troy has been updating his Twitter account (http://twitter.com/TroyMaccubbin) with pictures and so on involving Lena and the crew (including those nice back singers) before her gig. Check it out!

Serduchka Fan

13-06-2010, 03:14

Pridefest Mix of Lost in this Dance: www.lena-katina.com

Download and enjoy.

It's an incredible song. I love it.

regigigas1505

13-06-2010, 04:40

It's finished.

I wonder if Talyubittu liked it. I hope so!

MalchikGeiBrand

13-06-2010, 06:26

It doesn't sound too different from the versions she's performed lived. It's a nice step up in quality to listen to.
I wonder if the normal, non-"Pridefest" remix will be any different... Or did they just randomly slap on "Pridefest remix" for fun, with the future official version having 1, 2, maybe zero differences? o_o

podnebesnya

13-06-2010, 07:16

This is what I was afraid of, a song that's too literal, there's no fun in trying to figure out what she's talking about.

Argos

13-06-2010, 11:08

Pubertal drivel.

Flo181

13-06-2010, 17:32

Lena Katina @PrideFest, Milwaukee:

Second day of Milwaukee PrideFest smashes attendance records

Milwaukee, WI — Another night, another record-breaking attendance, and a new attitude. PrideFest continued into its second day with stellar performances by Lena Katina of electronica group t.A.T.u, pop opera singer Rose Jang, Oprah-favorite Charice, comedian Bruce Vilanch and the legendary Miss Patti LaBelle.

Before the diva and divas-in-training took the stage, PrideFest's day was filled with educational, family, youth, and health activities. The LGBT History Project chronicles the community's heritage in an intimate tent just near the entrance of the festival. Families enjoyed magicians and animal showcases. Youth participated in fashion shows and an inter-generational dialogue. PrideFest hosted HIV testing in the Health and Wellness Area. Mayor Tom Barrett even paid a visit applauding PrideFest for another "lovely festival."

As the cloudy day turned into a clear night, Lena Katina's high-octave voice filled the evening air. The beautiful siren sang solo ballads as well as hits from her days as one-half of the electronica/dance music group t.A.T.u. After a colorful fireworks display, Bruce Vilanch hosted the headline show likening the festival to "a gay cruise." The show also featured Rose Jang and Charice (who won acclaim and an enthusiastic thumbs up from Oprah Winfrey and Patti LaBelle ). Lena Katina even did the can-can backstage as Jang sang, "All That Jazz."

But the show stopper was the woman who paved the way for all of the songbirds mentioned thus far...Patti LaBelle. An illustrious career that still continues to flourish and evolve to this day, LaBelle graced the Miller Lite Main Stage with hits such as "New Attitude," "On My Own," "Lady Marmalade," "If Only You Knew," and the awesomely appropriate "Somewhere Over the Rainbow."

LaBelle's presence on stage was both full of awe and full of humility. During "If Only You Knew" she walked up to one of the signers to learn the sign language for her lyrics. She kicked off her high-heeled shoes to replace them with flatter sandals (bejeweled of course). The singer requested air conditioning be turned on stating that "menopause is in the house." Labelle even defied security's advice and brought a disorderly patron on stage, hugging the patron and ensuring that he was escorted back to his seat.

"We're two steps away from everything," LaBelle said. "Loneliness. Happiness. Our last paycheck. Loving our neighbor, black, white, gay, straight... stay gay! Stay the way you are!"

PrideFest 2010 ends Sunday night with a performance by fashion maven and comedienne Joan Rivers. For more information about PrideFest, or to review Sunday's schedule, please visit www.pridefest.com.

by Press Release

http://www.chicagopride.com/news/article.cfm/articleid/11279025

Running Blind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdYJd-PFjes

fanoff

13-06-2010, 18:05

Lena - hotness!

elaktronnye_k

13-06-2010, 18:57

Better outfit... not sure about her gloves, theyre kind of big for her. But she looks gorgeous, specially when they close up on the big screen.

She sang well, Im happy about that! Hope we get more footage.

mulder

13-06-2010, 19:04

World: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcSotPRFP5g

ATTSS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkDlT_JMEL8

fanoff

13-06-2010, 19:40

I don't like World.

mulder

13-06-2010, 21:23

I don't like World.

I have to admit I find it a bit meh myself.

MP4 versions available on Mediafire:

ATTSS: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?5tim5gzy5zc
IRS: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mgcmg2myy55
Running Blind: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?qmeyjlgnjzu
World: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?fondkkjxgjq

thelastblossom

13-06-2010, 22:39

To me World is one of the better ones. I ve seen world and ATTSS. She sang ATTSS really bad i think =/ but she looked beautiful and her solo project looks much more promising than TATU. hope she will come to NL so I can meet

regigigas1505

14-06-2010, 00:31

I do not dislike World, but it sure is my least favourite out of her new songs. It's not conventional, and for that I give it some credits -- but it also kills the possibility for it to be 100% enjoyable to me. But it's an OK song.

thelastblossom, is that so? I really liked it! It sounded better than ever to me (as in, live).

She sure looked nice and the singing is really outstanding. She didn't seem to move like she did @ Troubadour, though. Seemed less hyper. That's fine, though, as it was still great!

So Not Cool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_iauuv2k00
Really like this song, especially how different it is from t.A.T.u.'s! She did it gorgeously, too.

Starrgurl

14-06-2010, 02:35

My least favorite is So Not Cool, I actually really like World. It sounds pretty.

mulder

14-06-2010, 09:27

More performances for download in MP4 format:

Lost in this Dance: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nawynmttmuy
NGGU: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mmnznzmz52w
So Not Cool: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mku25ngzagj
Stay: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yjqygjziyin
Show Me Love: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zlm4wmzomxz

sakuya

18-06-2010, 15:44

New Lena's Vlog (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxmZTFE_oJw)

regigigas1505

18-06-2010, 19:59

http://www.youtube.com/user/tATuLuvers1#p/u

This user have HQ videos from the concert. Many more songs, too.

I'm surprised by the lack of reports we're getting around here. :confused:

mulder

19-06-2010, 13:29

I'm surprised by the lack of reports we're getting around here. :confused:

It's all been happening at tatu.ru - videos, audios, pictures, reports. They're an excitable bunch, not as world weary as in here ;)

Argos

19-06-2010, 19:57

http://www.youtube.com/user/tATuLuvers1#p/u

This user have HQ videos from the concert.
Was she doing the dishes before or after the show with those blue gloves? Taste police - arrest her!

taturocks8

20-06-2010, 14:44

I noticed its very quiet in here compare to tatu ru.

I like lenas new songs :D

fanoff

27-06-2010, 11:27

Yulia looks much better.

Argos

27-06-2010, 21:29

I see only one good looking. Svenny.

little_polar_bear

27-06-2010, 22:02

Good to see them, yeah. And true, Sven knows how to hide his chubby cute spots on pix :D No wonder he is always best-looking. :)

regigigas1505

27-06-2010, 22:37

mulder, I was saying that because I was expecting talyubittu to report somehow. :p

And yeah, good to see them together. It's a shame they look so horrible, though. Fortunately, Lena just needs a shower and she'll be OK. Yulia, on the other hand... Needs to born again. :coctail:

AshMcAuliffe

28-06-2010, 00:22

Forget the girls!
Sven = :love:

robbie

28-06-2010, 09:00

Forget the girls!
Sven = :love:

Yes! Sven is so hot :dead:

Talyubittu

28-06-2010, 09:43

It's so sad looking at old photographs of t.A.T.u. and looking at the mess they've become now. Props to Lena for the new project but wow. Way down hill for both of these girls.

thelastblossom

28-06-2010, 12:12

I don't think Lena looks worse than before. this is just the picture. on the recent things I think she still looks as good as before

taturocks8

28-06-2010, 13:30

thanks for the photo ;) They all look good. Its just Something about yulias makeup Just something about her that it making her look old there.

regigigas1505

28-06-2010, 19:39

^ Yeah, her plastic face, permanent-makeup. :rolleyes:

Serduchka Fan

29-06-2010, 05:03

Lena looks great in that pic, just no makeup. Yulia on the other hand needs her whole face fixed. Yikes.

RowerB

29-06-2010, 08:46

Talyubittu

29-06-2010, 09:20

People don’t seem to understand that Yulia is the best thing that ever breathed. They go on about her appearance, but there is no doubt she still has the potential of unparalleled beauty. That being said, her greatest asset is her voice.

You need to float down from your cloud. If she were this amazing, she'd be all over the place. She threw away the potential for unparalleled beauty when she ruined her skin with tanning and engorged her pores out the ass. And her voice hasn't been anything to listen to without the help of a studio.

Argos

29-06-2010, 16:14

...Yulia is the best thing that ever breathed.
Although I'm sure that she's not a thing, but a living organism...I can't see this best whatever. Currently she is one of the most needless artists of the Russian scene. To date she hasn't come out with anything on her own, although she is in the biz for more than a decade.
...there is no doubt she still has the potential of unparalleled beauty.
I've never seen anybody achieve beauty by means of self mutilation, but maybe she'll be the first woman on Earth to do so. :D
...her greatest asset is her voice.
Any idea when her voice has been heard singing without the help of electronic auxiliary devices? I can't remember. Time for proving her abilities: there are many events in summer for showing her talents, unfortunately I've not noticed any activity from her in that direction.

regigigas1505

29-06-2010, 18:48

I used to think Yulia was one of the most beautiful woman on earth... Thank God I'm not blind, though. I can see what she did to herself and I won't lie to myself about it -- it sucks! Just tragic... She ruined something nature made almost perfectly. Shame on her.

I wonder what's next.

MalchikGeiBrand

29-06-2010, 23:17

It'll be so refreshing to see Yulia without make up, reverted back to her natural blond hair, and allowing her lips to go back to normal. Some creams and foundation is okay, since all that make up and surgery must have dried her face up and distorted the natural tone...
Also, either she got a growth spurt at 25, Lena shrunk, or she's wearing massive heels. :p

I'm loving all the simple stuff Lena and the band have been giving us and I'm pleased with the live performances. I'm especially glad we get to see Lena interact with us online more personally.

I remember in the early Tatu days where Lena and Yulia would go on to the official forums. Whether it was really them, or their management was posing as them, I don't know. :gigi:

Юлян Julian

01-07-2010, 09:48

W-O-W
I really have missed out on a lot, eh

Lena's perf is hot. She looks fantastic and sounds amazing! Though she could've done without the blue gloves. But damn. So looking forward to her album

Starrgurl

02-07-2010, 02:54

So did you guys hear Lena's going back to Moscow?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvmcq5cOnZ8&playnext_from=TL&videos=NCwOOXvtees

waster

02-07-2010, 05:43

Who cares if she's in Moscow now... she needs to finish her album soon... she need to release a single... to get a label... !!!!!!!

While we wait for all this miracles.... a little off-topic but you must listen this, it is worthwhile!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW89Pv8QrX4

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0BsI8R4izQ

waster

02-07-2010, 17:37

:blabla: Lena Katina Solo project is one hundred times more boring crazy malchik :) ... The songs are hmm... boring... :D she's trying to do it interesting but everybody know in the deepest part of their heart that she won't have success in this project... another project between more interesting music and singers with more potential and qualities... I still love t.A.T.u and love Lena but I'm being realistic... I will wait her first single... if she release a single some day .... ;)
I don't spek english very well... but I think everybody here can understand.... :coctail:

RowerB

02-07-2010, 18:31

^
I’ve not taken much interest in Lena’s solo project, but she’s is in serious trouble if her stuff really is more boring than that rubbish you posted, waster. I hope you understood what I wrote.

waster

02-07-2010, 18:49

Well RowerB.... then... Lena is in serious trouble... her stuff is more boring than that "rubbish" I posted... :D
At least... This new project works in something creative... at least they are working.. they're getting a solid fan base... an army... Lena is just a shadow from a group that was applauded in the past.... she's not a potential artist... that's the true....
Some people are talking about Iamamiwhoami... 32519 persons have watched their last video in 24 hours... How many people are talking about Lena... how many people are watching their videos in youtube.... how many people are listening "Lost in this dance".... ?¿?

PEACE!

thelastblossom

02-07-2010, 21:06

lol at the PEACE! part

Argos

02-07-2010, 22:23

If Lena started licking trees...
She fought against roots, she's close, so so close! :laugh:

regigigas1505

04-07-2010, 23:19

^ LOL!
:rolleyes: @ waster...

Anyway, did you guys see THIS> http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=LenaKatinaVEVO ?

Looks like she made it! Can't decide if it's a bad thing or not, but I guess it's something.

Simple_Motions

05-07-2010, 01:26

fanoff

08-07-2010, 20:47

http://www.youtube.com/user/quoth09

The best quality of first appearance at LA. The Running Blind performance is awesome

fanoff

08-07-2010, 20:52

I really like Stay after hearing from this recording.

Talyubittu

08-07-2010, 21:23

http://www.youtube.com/user/quoth09

The best quality of first appearance at LA. The Running Blind performance is awesome

Her mic was not on for half of the performance. And she didn't even notice.

fanoff

08-07-2010, 21:25

That's why it's awesome :lol:

regigigas1505

09-07-2010, 22:25

I love every song, except WORLD. This one I just like... :p

And they commented after the PrideFest performance "FINALLY we can hear ourselves on stage!", so I figured they could not @ the Troubadour.

I think both performances were gold! Can't wait for Lena to come to my country! :D

Edgar

11-07-2010, 10:18

:blabla: Lena Katina Solo project is one hundred times more boring crazy malchik :) ... The songs are hmm... boring...

woow I don't want to be bad guy but I really think same thing about lena project.... I've tried to listen her music but that's no possible. Right now she got some songs but I can't see any hit in her music ..... I really hope that she can make a big hit. My hope is Sven Martin

About Performance.... What's up with that? She was so nervous that she can't give them a good performance. That was so lame (she really kills the chorus of Running Blind in a bad way)

Maybe I'm wrong......

regigigas1505

12-07-2010, 00:59

Maybe I'm wrong......

I'm glad you realized that :p

Joke. I respect your opinions, but I hope you come to see the good side of this project... It really is good and Lena really improved. She's giving her best, IMHO. x)

Talyubittu

12-07-2010, 03:10

They need to release an album. Like, now.

Edgar

12-07-2010, 03:15

I'm glad you realized that :p

Joke. I respect your opinions, but I hope you come to see the good side of this project... It really is good and Lena really improved. She's giving her best, IMHO. x)

:p Maybe someday I will see the good side of this project but right now that's not time for me to say something like that's so great. Because Right now there's nothing what I can say that's great in this project. I will wait for Yulia's project too and i will try to be honest with myself. Anyway my best wishes for them.

manatsu103

12-07-2010, 06:25

They need to release an album. Like, now.

I totally agree!

MalchikGeiBrand

12-07-2010, 17:30

Or at least some sort of EP, since they're "new to the world"... A lot of groups have started that way.

They need to produce something that will gain them a decent fan base, and not just the group of Tatu fans who actually update themselves on Tatu every once in a while.

I mean, if that's what they're going for anyway. I think they said once that they're doing this for fun? I dunno. :p

We can hope the Pridefest performance gave Lena's band some number of new fans.
I think Lena's stage presence is pretty cute and at least she's trying. She's naturally humble so we can't expect her to go "completely all out and crazy".

Starrgurl

12-07-2010, 20:20

They said they might release an EP. I think it should be called World, and the tracklisting should be something like...

1. World
2. IRS
3. Just A Day
4. Lost In This Dance
5. So Not Cool
6. Stay

Argos

12-07-2010, 20:26

...at least she's trying.
That's not enough. Basically the new songs are considerably away from hit material. Her performances are with the handbrake on. Fans, especially potentially new ones, want to feel their stars. Stronger emotions are needed (possibly not the best songs for that?).

I don't see this kind of uniqueness which distinguishes the star from the average. If she wanted to show herself as the girl next door - congratulation, perfectly done! Unfortunately this won't interest many people.

For an international career she has to find her own clear position, which she has not to share with hundreds of other wannabe starlets like she has to at the moment. Well, half a dozen more demands necessary to be successful as a non-english native in the international biz, but without being special she has no chance.

Even for a career in Russia she is far away from fit. Dozens of girls with decent singing abilities who stand as if rooted on the ground on stage and perform with poor emotion try their luck there the same way as Lena does. Using English language isn't really helpful either in this country. Most people won't understand her. Not to speak about her complete lack of contacts to important people of the music scene (reading books or stalking VIPs - her decision).

If she wants to gain more than releasing one or two download albums and singing at mini events organized by (ex-) tatu fans, the whole team has to rethink image, creative work and strategy. The whole thing is nice (you know, that's the sister of boring), but not more.

MalchikGeiBrand

13-07-2010, 03:31

Well, yeah, I also think her attempts of stage presence particularly aren't at a typically amazing level, but it pleases me at this point, because her little movements are better than her just standing in front of a mic looking bored. :p I do agree though. If they do want to have a strong, booming audience, they're going to have to make something stand out and really impress someone. What they're doing right now is cute and fun. But a lot of it (the blogs, vlogs, tweets, meetings) is just fan service and of course no one but the fans they already have are noticing.

regigigas1505

20-07-2010, 22:35

Some tension has laid on both sides.

Yulia, in this interview > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwnHvFEaZvA < said two important things:

* She dislikes the fact that Lena sang ATTSS and NGGU in her performances; she thinks it's stupid.
* She thinks Lena's work and new songs are silly and, therefore, are meant to disappear really soon.

Lena responded in this video to Yulia's comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFUDW3FdImU&feature=player_embedded

And Yulia also said in the same interview that her project will be a BIG BOOM; "it'll make people want to make love with each other!".

sakuya

21-07-2010, 12:21

Its not her.. Its her lips talking. IT take over her!!!!

franb

21-07-2010, 14:41

I've subbed the "offending" vid by Yulia

If she ever turned her sensational words into actions she would truly rule the world

I for one totally agree with her comments re Lena singing YSSU and NND solo.
Any other album songs would have been OK.

Rock on Yulia.

Thanks to easya and Ira for infos

Yulia Hearing Test from MTV 17.07.2010 subs.avi (53 MB) was uploaded

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RI3P3P4Q

Could somebody kindly up it to youtube and post the link

Thanks in advance

little_polar_bear

21-07-2010, 15:41

Thanks, franb for the constant work you're doing!

AshMcAuliffe

21-07-2010, 16:49

So you guys are telling me that when Yulia finally gets up off of her lazy 'lips' she's not going to use t.A.T.u.'s 2 biggest hits to help promote her solo stuff? I highly doubt that she won't!

Argos

21-07-2010, 17:12

* She dislikes the fact that Lena sang ATTSS and NGGU in her performances; she thinks it's stupid.
Me too!
* She thinks Lena's work and new songs are silly...
Again agreed.
... and, therefore, are meant to disappear really soon.
Premature conclusion. She has enough time to make it better.
Lena responded in this video to Yulia's comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFUDW3FdImU&feature=player_embedded
There are times I'm honestly sure that Lena is the female incarnation of John Cleese in 'A Fish Called Wanda' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7mIy97_rlo), so composed in every situation, hardly showing any emotion. Yulya told that Lena does stupid things and she is like "I have a completely different attitude towards the whole situation". Eh, what? Why can't she just say "Shut up, Volkova!"?

little_polar_bear

21-07-2010, 17:13

She would be mega-stupid if she used YSSU etc. after what she has said, so no, she won't use 'em. Don't even know if she could copyright-wise and why should she go back to a project that she lost her interest in, at least in the last year 2008... ?

You see it clearly:

Lena Katina (project) = t.A.T.u. - Yulia
Yulia Volkova = Yulia Volkova

AshMcAuliffe

21-07-2010, 17:20

she's the one currently living off her past glories. Stupid, pointless interviews and turning up at parties etc... VERY productive Volkova. She'll be the one needing t.A.T.u. more when everything bombs... erm, i mean, fails to take off. The West is hardly going to take that face and that strangled voice seriously.

Argos

21-07-2010, 17:56

she's the one currently living off her past glories.
You are talking about Lena, right? The only songs which sounded good at her perfomances were songs written for tatu, everything else is for the trash bin.
Stupid, pointless interviews...
...and you've witnessed intelligent interviews in a news section of a music channel? At least she told honestly about her opinions, not like other people on earth who never tell enough that I can see what they think.
... and turning up at parties etc... VERY productive Volkova.
You were on parties of Volkova? This is JOB! Publicity, important people of the biz...When she was partying FOR TATU the project went quite well, when she discovered the washing machine and the pressing iron for Parviz the project tatu fell vertically to the ground.
She'll be the one needing t.A.T.u. more when everything bombs... erm, i mean, fails to take off.
They will both fail evenly. Yulya can't focus on one single thing and scatters her energies on various things, and Lena has no creativity nor independence. She lets others decide for herself. Their tatu past doesn't help both of them. I give them hundred albums more sold for some tatu songs reanimated.

AshMcAuliffe

21-07-2010, 18:06

I'll stick with Lena A.K.A. t.A.T.u. minus Yulia. Yulia is a farce and has been for quite a while now.

RowerB

21-07-2010, 19:06

and that strangled voice seriously.
I think the West the East and everywhere else will go crazy for that strangled voice.

AshMcAuliffe

21-07-2010, 19:21

They won't for that face! Repulsed more like.

thelastblossom

21-07-2010, 23:27

it strikes me how RowerB can still be soooo supportive for the horrible yulia noise. Argos, I disagree with you. Because telling yulia to shut up in public is a different thing than if it would be private. To me Lena handled this very mature. (but maybe even a lil more mature if she kept silent about it)

podnebesnya

22-07-2010, 01:41

that's bitchy of her, but Yulia is far more interesting...I downloaded the song off Lena's website and only listened to 50 seconds of it and never played it again.

parasun

22-07-2010, 09:43

Unfortunately, I think podnebesnya is right... I'm pretty sure I will LOVE Yulia's new music, even though I am super pissed at her and I think she is kind of a bitch for being mean to the sweetest girl on earth :(

Endri

22-07-2010, 09:46

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nugTJ423i58

franb

22-07-2010, 12:11

Thanks :)

regigigas1505

22-07-2010, 15:16

You see it clearly:

Lena Katina (project) = t.A.T.u. - Yulia
Yulia Volkova = Yulia Volkova

About the bold part: not really. You didn't watch the whole performances, did ya?

I see Lena's songs as something coming from the BAND, not RENSKI. The sound is just NOT t.A.T.u.! It's not that electronical, non-sense storm of beats we last got. It's different. It's kinda blah, yeah, kinda stopped, kinda... Lena. But it's still good, quite and advance from what I expected. I think two of the songs are top-liners and the rest are good -- they're not bad. None of them you listen and think "oh, I hate it".

I think people like you spend too much time blaming Renski for everything and forget Lena's solo project is not REALLY an embodiment of his visions and ideas. Of course he's part of it, but he sure isn't the head.

And I belive such people as Argos could respect Lena more, because she's not a lost frog in the night without a mom. :rolleyes:
She can handle herself and YES, she needs to get MUCH better - but she's on the way, at least. 2010 Lena is far far ahead of 2008, 2007, 2006 and 2005 Lena AND Yulia. And present Yulia, of course.

AshMcAuliffe

22-07-2010, 17:14

About the bold part: not really. You didn't watch the whole performances, did ya?

I see Lena's songs as something coming from the BAND, not RENSKI. The sound is just NOT t.A.T.u.! It's not that electronical, non-sense storm of beats we last got. It's different. It's kinda blah, yeah, kinda stopped, kinda... Lena. But it's still good, quite and advance from what I expected. I think two of the songs are top-liners and the rest are good -- they're not bad. None of them you listen and think "oh, I hate it".

I think people like you spend too much time blaming Renski for everything and forget Lena's solo project is not REALLY an embodiment of his visions and ideas. Of course he's part of it, but he sure isn't the head.

And I belive such people as Argos could respect Lena more, because she's not a lost frog in the night without a mom. :rolleyes:
She can handle herself and YES, she needs to get MUCH better - but she's on the way, at least. 2010 Lena is far far ahead of 2008, 2007, 2006 and 2005 Lena AND Yulia. And present Yulia, of course.

Amen to this! :)

RowerB

22-07-2010, 19:43

at least. 2010 Lena is far far ahead of 2008, 2007, 2006 and 2005 Lena AND Yulia. And present Yulia, of course.
I think 2008, 2007, 2006 and 2005 Yulia AND Lena were far far ahead of 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001 and 2000 Yulia AND Lena. Just listen to D&M, LI, Happy Smiles and Waste Management and look at the concerts and you’ll see too.

Argos

22-07-2010, 20:59

The birth of the Lena Katina project wasn't out of heart, it was the only thinkable way to act after Yulya left the group. I don't believe that Renskij or Lena had any vision or concept about it when they started. Lena suddenly had no 'job' and Renskij was without his project, which is, as far as I know, pretty much his only occupation, if we put aside his dedication to Russian spaceflight and charity activities.

Yulya wanted to move to the USA and build up her career there. Of course she wanted to get the tatu musicians to help her and work together as a band. Renskij knew it, he was faster and took the band. They are not enough successful that they would easily reject his well paid offers. As we know Renskij and Katina came to LA with no song, no concept, no anything. The goal was just to avert Yulya getting the band and having a good chance for a start. This is not fair play, but understandable. A successful Yulya will kill the tatu project definitely. He acts as a business professional and we can't even blame him for that. The lack of his own strong input into the Katina project proves that he is realistic enough to doubt chances for Lena. His aim is still to save the tatu project, and for Lena the whole thing is an occupational therapy.

But somehow his calculations got wrong. Unexpectedly Yulya got the more than half a million dollars she needed to record her album and everything is on track. Renskij has to deal with the creative emptiness of the Katina project, has to keep the musicians in good mood and be in everything faster, better and more successful than Yulya to frustrate her enough that she will give up.

The Volkova project has to be a success for one reason: A project should never be grounded on destructivity and never should Renskij get the satisfaction that his tactics get rewarded. Of course this all made Yulya angry and when she saw the poor results of the efforts of the TA Music combo she kicked back, and she has all the right on Earth for this. Unfortunately, with her typical lack of sensibility, she hit the person who is to blame the least for that.

As for the Volkova project in particular: Yulya's part in recording the album seems to be done (there were hints in a Russian yellow press article) and the video to her first single in Malibu is probably shot too (Yulya's last trip to USA, which she hardly could await the last several weeks, as she told).

All those people mocking at her voice: I blame this simply on your malevolence. Yulya has proved numerous times that she can handle her problems most of the time. A hoarse voice isn't a big problem nowadays, a simple noise filter does wonders here. The sometimes occurring short failure of the vocal chords, when strained too much, may be a bigger problem, not good for a clean licked fairy pop act, but she won't do that crap, so she may work around quite well on her live performances, if she has smart ideas for such incidents.

The lips - the number one drama for people who have nothing else to say: there is a big fashion in Russia for those things and unfortunately Yulya didn't want to stay behind. I blame it on her sex-rock project for which she wanted to look more sexy. Obviously things went wrong, her body resists to this malefaction and she got edemas and inflammations. That makes the lips so big. Currently she has too much work to do to fix them, but I'm sure you'll see her with better looks in the near future and then you have to find other subjects for your spitefulness.

Back to Lena and her project. As already told, Renskij has no concept, the musicians, so good they are on their instruments, they are not the best in composing songs, not to mention in creating good lyrics. I see one song good enough as an album song, two others which could be pepped up to make fillers, the rest isn't worth any further work or even performance.

What I really see great, is the new version of 'Craving' - I adore it. 'Fly On The Wall', stripped off the horrible Timbaland sound, is now good for me too. The other tatu songs are of course something which can't fail. As Aileen already told - the anthems of tatu , NGGU, ATTSS, those songs should be performed by no means. Lena, the person who most of all regrets their former image, makes herself unbelievable and the aim to exploit (old!!!) tatu's image for her empty project is so obvious that it can only do damage.

What the project needs, I told it already on tatu.ru - Lena has to create her own image. Nobody can do it for her. The people around her are not competent at all for this. To be a star you don't have to be yourself, you have to create yourself, and it doesn't necessarily have much to do with your current self, more with your inner self, your desires, your own dream figure.

But Lena doesn't take the reins in her own hands and lets others decide , she does what others tell her, and she completely neglects her own wishes and needs just to please other people. In that respect my quote from above that she should have said: "Volkova, shut up!" would have given birth to Lena Katina, her own Lena Katina, not the one of mom, Renskij or the strange leftovers from the former tatu community. As long as she doesn't push away the people around her with her ellbows, jumps on a pedestal and shouts: "I am Lena Katina and I do what I like!", as long as she doesn't have this courage, the project will remain brain dead. From the moment she forms her own self the creative people in her team (Lena included), if there are some, will have a much better comprehension of the project and therefore can way better feel, create and produce, what's needed for a project with prospect. But so far the whole thing remains random and meaningless, from head to toe.

Finally quite a frustrated remark at the whole tatu community which zombies around here on the forums. It's very disturbing for me to see so many people (young people, that's even worse!) here to worship exaggerated politeness and considerateness, housewife mentality, submission and self-denial. How come that you became tatu-fans? Did you ever think about the meaning of the tatu project? Is there no more star at the Disney front to worship that you come here to annoy people with your moral hooliganism?

thelastblossom

22-07-2010, 23:55

if lena was being polite and decent for the sake of fitting in the moral and fitting in the norms of a disneystar, then yes. but if it is her inner nature to deal with this calmly and respect >HER OWN< vision, her approach would be good i think. to me it is very immature to tell shut up volkova since it is done in a public way (not because it would be against the disney norm but because of the influence her words would have on volkova and the world). deal with those problems privately as it should be and stay true to her nature. imo she shouldnt let any factors influence her attitude and opinion besides her inner ones. If she would tell volkova to shut up it would only show her weakness to me. there is a difference between having a provocating statement and being rude plus doing unthoughtfull things.

about the yulia voice; for each their own but to me. she really has a horrible voice AND vocal skills. lena also doesnt have the best but to me at least is decent and less strained.

regigigas1505

23-07-2010, 03:10

OK, Argos, thanks for this one.

Now, it's nice to hear those things form you. What I miss about t.A.T.u. is news. I google it and can't find a word about'em. Nothing. I don't know what's going on with Yulia and Lena is the only one who SEEMS to be doing anything at all.

So. Yulia's lips make me feel sad about her and lose hopes regarding her sanity. Things she says also do. But it's not that I dislike her. And I'm sure everyone here does NOT dislike Yulia. That's strong. Everyone loves t.A.T.u. and Yulia IS t.A.T.u. - maybe even more than Lena. Yeah, she's the voice, blah blah blah. It's not wrong or a shame for me to say that. But, you know, Lena proved herself more interesting. Yulia seems obscene and blah. She could, with Lena, be OK right now. She threw it all away -- IT WAS NOT RENSKI, it was Yulia V.

Don't you think it's too risky for her to take a step like that?

And Lena, well. I do find both of these girls strange, actually. I do like them. I do. But, you see, Yulia seems lunatic and Lena looks and acts like a robot. But Lena's been changing. She stopped smoking, for God's sake! She sings so much better. And she'll keep getting better, I'm sure.

This whole "t.A.T.u. team X Yulia" thing does make sense, but, you know, I don't seem anybody to blame but Yulia. And I'm not angry at her, I'm just being realistic here. She seems like she's lost it. She doesn't seem to care about her t.A.T.u. fans.

You said Lena regrets their old image the most. I disagree. Yulia does, obviously. She doesn't write her t.A.T.u. fans a diary for a very, VERY long time. You know that. And, now, she'll refuse to sing t.A.T.u. songs because she wants something completely NEW. She does not want anything to do with Lena OR t.A.T.u.! She went crazy and destroyed her looks because she hates her old safe. Therefore, I don't see Lena as the one who regrets it.

About defending Lena, I believe someone who fights for equality, peace and love will stand by it. That's all. Yulia has a problem? Learn how to deal with it. She's angry? Go home. Life's not easy for anyone. She took a step -- she shoulda know there would be consequences.

I use to defend Yulia from everyone's comments when she had her babies, etc.; I use to dislike Lena. I thought she was ugly and hated her voice. I hated Stars, I hated All About Us bridge. I liked t.A.T.u. for Yulia. I liked it because I though she was brave and unique. She is, indeed. But, sadly, look where it took her.

Lena, on the other hand, proved herself better. She's been there for us and she's been trying to get where she wants. I'm sure she'll get there. She may not be successful, but she'll sure rock audiences where she passes. And so will Yulia. They'll both be OK, I'm sure. Yulia may be more successful and everything -- it doesn't really matter to me, to be honest.

All I care is for their sake. I may be sad for Yulia and the things she's been doing and saying, but I deeply wish her the best -- above it all, I wish she learns from her mistakes and becomes a better person. She should chill out, actually. Now that it happaned, the t.A.T.u. breaking up she longed for so much, that's just it.

On another note, if Renski was the problem, why not: "hey, I'm not OK, I don't feel right. Me AND Lena deserve better. I'll talk to her and we'll search for someone who can help us be who we are. We'll seek success together". BUT NOT, she had to do it alone. "Fuck Lena, I don't need that woman anymore". Fuck t.A.T.u., fuck everything. That's Yulia, after all.

Talyubittu

23-07-2010, 07:10

She doesn't seem to care about her t.A.T.u. fans.

Why would she waste her time worrying about 250-300 (maybe) dedicated fans, when she could launch a career herself and actually produce something interesting?

Blakeich

23-07-2010, 09:40

Well i think your all wrong. I think that Yulia wont be as big as everyone is making her out to be. For a start only t.A.T.u fans no who she is, her name ect..... if you ask a person who isnt into t.A.T.u, who is yulia volkova? they will go, who?. So i dont think neither of them will ever be as big as tatu was. Not even a 3rd. But on one side. We have actually heard a lot of material from lena none of the less.

fanoff

23-07-2010, 12:59

Argos, great writing! But I'm not too sure about Yulia project.

regigigas1505

23-07-2010, 15:49

Did you guys see Troy's last tweets?

Here are they:

Don't know anything about Yulia interview

All I'll say is there is a reason why the whole band is with Lena & not Yulia.

All of us want to write, record, play music & tour. There was one person in Tatu who didn't want to do anything. Guess who

:rolleyes:

Talyubittu, well, I agree with you, but it's still sad, you know? And it sure makes me care lesser and lesser about her. As everything she does.

Argos

23-07-2010, 16:03

There are three musicians who know that they know a little bit of tatu internals, but rarely tell something, because they are intelligent enough to realize that everything you say, can influence the project in a negative way.

...and there is one hyper intellectual, who always has so much to tell about tatu, that I'm honestly concerned if he finds enough time to rehearse for the LK project. It would be a pity if he lost his ability to play the guitar, but to be a virtuoso on his keyboard (of his MacBook, of course).

@fanoff: I share your evaluation.
I think she began too late, she doesn't have the financial background, she begins ten things and gets lost in the middle of the work. But at least she has a chance, something I don't see for Lena with the current management and creative team.

QueenBee

23-07-2010, 17:03

It's very disturbing for me to see so many people (young people, that's even worse!) here to worship exaggerated politeness and considerateness, housewife mentality, submission and self-denial.
It is a matter of common courtesy. I think Yulia made a big mistake by publically speaking badly about her so-called sister's project. I don't really care about Lena or her project, I don't follow it and I haven't heard one whole song, but I think if your best friend writes the shittiest book in the world, you still tell them it was a nice read. If you are a bit more honest you can say it's not your style. If it is somebody you care about, you support them when they try and when they fail. I understand they are not friends but at least have some respect for all the years you had together. I think Lena handled herself in a mature way, I mean, why start even more drama? I think a lot of us can agree that drama and scandals can get you far but not all the way. Was there even a reason to say this type of thing in public in front of a camera? What could anybody possibly gain from this statement? Besides the papers having something to write about? Then the question is whether a "friend" or 15-minutes of fame (until this discussion dies out) is more important to Yulia.

Sometimes, a person will yell about their self-confidence so loud that nobody can see how insecure they really are. Yulia talks about how she does what she wants but for some reason she felt the need to be a "thin wife" for Parviz because he "wouldn't love her" otherwise. She talks about self-sufficient she is, but before she met Parviz she didn't seem to have such a glamorous life and suddenly she had clothes from the biggest brands, a nice car, a huge house, "fabulous dogs" :p and whatnot. Nothing wrong with that, of course, if she and Parviz agreed that she could live off of his money - good for her, but I don't think she was as independent as she claimed to be. I think Parviz is a reason why she changed so much, not because it was "his fault" but because she loved him so much and had to please him in any way she thought was right. And why is she so quickly with a new guy? No time to even recuperate from such a long relationship and have some time for herself to be... herself. I think both of the girls are quite insecure, in their own ways.

Whatever. :D I don't care about Lena's project really, I would be more interested in Yulia if there was anything of artistic value to comment on. I think a lot of Tatu fans seem to forget that there is a big sea of more famous, "fabulous", well-known (among people), hard-working and creative starts in the world and I think both of the girls are far away from the fame they get credit for from some people.

Kisses to everyone :D

Argos

23-07-2010, 17:33

Hello Monika! Nice to meet you again, missed you!
I think if your best friend writes the shittiest book in the world, you still tell them it was a nice read.
They were no more friends for years, inspite of their claims. In fact they became hard competitors, and as it seems, even enemies. Too many bad words between them and there was nobody who was able to mediate, all the people around were biased in one or the other direction.
And why is she so quickly with a new guy?
Money. Standing alone with your project needs a lot of it. Get the next best guy who is willing to support you. Materialistic? No, idealistic. The project has to survive.
I think both of the girls are quite insecure, in their own ways.
Very much, indeed. Yulya just can mask with her loud and sometimes bitchy behaviour.

RowerB

23-07-2010, 18:12

I think a lot of Tatu fans seem to forget that there is a big sea of more famous, "fabulous", well-known (among people), hard-working and creative starts in the world
I didn’t forget it because I didn’t know it in the first place. None of them would make a sound like Yulia so they are second besters at best.

thelastblossom

23-07-2010, 18:15

I didn’t forget it because I didn’t know it in the first place. None of them would make a sound like Yulia so they are second besters at best.

even yulia doesnt sound like yulia anymore. she sounds like a dinosaur. but you could watch jurassic park for the same effect. so to speak, the t rex would be among yulia the best singer in the world :D

Argos

23-07-2010, 18:28

even yulia doesnt sound like yulia anymore. she sounds like a dinosaur. but you could watch jurassic park for the same effect. so to speak, the t rex would be among yulia the best singer in the world :D
1. If you think that it's funny - sorry, it's not.
2. Bashing artists, especially if it's based on poor grounds, don't make your arguments very convincing.
3. You haven't heard her voice for years. You don't know how she sounds.
4. Some of the greatest music has been sung by people who sounded worse than crows, and people love it, and spend money on all of their albums.
5. If you want to hear perfect voices you are wrong here. Try Anna Netrebko or some other opera singer.

RowerB

23-07-2010, 19:02

thelastblossom

23-07-2010, 19:57

1. If you think that it's funny - sorry, it's not.
2. Bashing artists, especially if it's based on poor grounds, don't make your arguments very convincing.
3. You haven't heard her voice for years. You don't know how she sounds.
4. Some of the greatest music has been sung by people who sounded worse than crows, and people love it, and spend money on all of their albums.
5. If you want to hear perfect voices you are wrong here. Try Anna Netrebko or some other opera singer.

1. sorry, i think it was funny ;)
2. it is not based on poor grounds, you dont know my ground. I was just telling how I think she sounds, just like rowerB. you are the one speculating all the time with detailed sketches but doesnt seem to know that nobody knows any truth.
3. that doesn't matter, as you can see, my post was not a serious argument based post. it was just an expression of my thoughts. its just pointless to bring this up. but of course, yes I based my judgement on my past hearings. I wouldnt expect her to sound like a sarah brightman suddenly right.
4. I never made the link from having poor vocals to bad music.
5. of course I am also member of forums of artists that I like, whether they have better vocals or not.

ANYHOW, T-rex is a serious match to Yulia in my eyes. :D let's put his vocals over a great beat for some sex-rock ;)

Argos

23-07-2010, 20:13

T-rex is a serious match to Yulia in my eyes. :D
Let me hear your T-rex. I'm intrigued how you get a sound tape from an animal which is extinct for more than 65 million years. Again, poor grounds!

thelastblossom

23-07-2010, 20:21

Let me hear your T-rex. I'm intrigued how you get a sound tape from an animal which is extinct for more than 65 million years. Again, poor grounds!

lol are you really taking this t-rex thing serious? look, if my observation led to the right conclusion you will endlessly write to prove your point. but it is not in my priority interest to spend my time doing, so just leave that in the dark. to me, I was just saying what came on mind, just like rowerB and everybody else. so please chill out

Edgar

23-07-2010, 20:21

1. sorry, i think it was funny ;)

I don't think that he's kidding about that. it wasn't funny

ANYHOW, T-rex is a serious match to Yulia in my eyes.
Maybe You're blind or something like that. Come on guy go to the hospital.

thelastblossom

23-07-2010, 20:29

oh no! you got me wrong Edgar! I didnt mean to express that Yulia looks like T-rex. I meant that they (the artificial creature of the movie jurassic park and yulia) have the same voice! But remember, the T-rex is just an artificial interpretation of the real one. So we cant know for sure. ;)

Argos

23-07-2010, 20:39

Ok, your bashing is based on the comparison of an artificial interpretation of a filmmaker on an extinct animal nobody knows how it really sounded with the voice of one person you haven't heard for years just remembering recordings from far pasttime, which wasn't even really live, because Lena and Yulya didn't sing entirely live since 2006. Is this so correct, or do you have to add something I overlooked?

Starrgurl

23-07-2010, 20:39

I thought you were talking about the band T-Rex.

But to compare how Yulia's voice sounds now, it seems pretty much dead in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZVDfpMI9-k

RowerB

23-07-2010, 21:08

I thought you were talking about the band T-Rex.
I was.

sakuya

23-07-2010, 21:56

well at least yulia gave life to dead tatu forums. Haven't seen so much posts in awhile. Let the cat fight begin!
*Wheres my popcorn* :rolleyes:

Talyubittu

23-07-2010, 22:05

I didn’t forget it because I didn’t know it in the first place. None of them would make a sound like Yulia so they are second besters at best.

You're a goon. Nobody gives two piles of rat shit about Yulia. The only thing second best to Yulia's voice that we know of is a foghorn. - She is not a great vocalist, and she has never been a great vocalist without the aid of a studio. She rants and raves about supporting creativity but has so far put nothing creative into t.A.T.u. or anything else that we've seen in the past ten years. No writing. No production. And still a shabby voice. Unless she finds a good way to reinvent herself, which is going to be hard to do since she's been both a lesbian and the chairwoman for people with disabilities in the past - I don't see her being successful. And Argos, I do disagree with you here. The fact that they didn't sing live in the first place should be enough evidence to support the fact that neither of them have the ability to handle their poor and untrained vocals during a live show. In a studio, multiple takes can be done. On stage, their countless moments of being off-key are evident every thirty seconds.

regigigas1505

23-07-2010, 23:35

It is (...)

I'm so happy you're still alive! :D

Miss your posts!!!

regigigas1505

24-07-2010, 00:06

I honestly don't know why I like t.A.T.u.! Seriously!!!

Untalented, insecure, crazy, enigmatic, not really beautiful anymore... Wah! Not even their fans support them. First, the ones who were frustrated they were NOT REALLY lesbianskis. Now, the ones who just realized these girls are nothing compared to those so awesome and marvelous artists.

Oh. So long, t.A.T.u.!

Anyways.

Since the last album, it's funny to listen to their songs and think about how better they could be. And think about how the girls don't even sound good in a record! They're off-key at many moments. LOL, so funny those girls!

Now, lipsy lipsy Yulia only makes scandals and lips. Fans who think others are just too hard on her fight for her rights. Great fans!
And little chubby Lena... Ah, Lena! Now she's improved and so many people are happy. The 100 and something people who still are left. Oh. What a beatiful smile you've got there, Lenka! So smart girl!!!

Anyways. I'll listen to them and watch them. They're part of my life, after all. I was 13 when I first got to know them and was intrigued by them. Back then, I didn't think about who could or couldn't sing or any of this complex business. All I liked was Pearl Jam and Silverchair, but these girls just had something to them! Something that, actually, doesn't exist. I wanted them to have it. Why? Go ask my mind. Everything's crazy. It doesn't have to make sense, it just is. For all of us.

So, here's where I'm trying to get: there ARE, it's obvious, FAR more interesting and talented artists out there. I follow them. However, everybody deserves a chance if they mean something to you and especially if they are good people to your eyes. Lena fits in here. Yulia fits the first one.

So, let me follow them. I don't need a reason. And ALSO, let me get mad. Let me think without raping my thoughts. Just think for yourselves and be the nice people you are.

Thanks. :D

MalchikGeiBrand

24-07-2010, 04:07

I think I'm the same way. I still follow Tatu somehow even though there's not really a defined reason I can think of as to why. I was attached to them so much when I first got into them (I was 12, and this was back in the summer of '05 so it was kind of late in their career) and it's one of those things where I can't detach myself. It's not like I'm being delusional and over optimistic.

Myself compared to some fans of Tatu on YouTube and facebook... It seems I'm definitely not as delusional and over optimistic. :p

My case with Tatu is quite similar with this case. It's like this one pop group from Thailand I liked since I was about 8... I thought those girls were the "coolest thing ever" even though I now know they were totally completely manufactured. They can't sing, they have cute looks but their attempts at being sexy are just so awkwardly hilarious. I don't often listen to their music anymore - only the old ones for my nostalgia, but I still follow them somehow? And I don't really need to explain the reason why I do, because there isn't really one.

Personally, I don't imagine Lena's current stuff reaching outbreaking success, but I still find myself casually looking up for her updates.

Argos

24-07-2010, 10:49

I don't see her being successful. And Argos, I do disagree with you here. The fact that they didn't sing live in the first place should be enough evidence to support the fact that neither of them have the ability to handle their poor and untrained vocals during a live show.
i don't see where we disagree here. I'd sign every word of your comment. I don't believe in success for both of them. For an international career, especially when English is not your first language, you need a lot of important people working behind you. And I don't even speak about the fact that you need to be really unique and creative in your artistical work, which both of them haven't shown until now even once (although we don't know whether they ar capable or not).

Lena is singing better than Yulya, but certainly not good enough to compete with the first league of international music scene, and Yulya, even if her vocal chords were ok, wouldn't be much better. Their skills are far behind a typical mid twenties pop artist on the international scene.

Their only fair chance is the Russian market and the neighbouring countries. Even there both of them are considerably behind, but Yulya has at least a tiny chance. She has more contacts in the scene, she is regularly together with other singers, producers, sponsors (her oh so damnable partying), and therefore gets echo from professionals, some advice (we know, not everything is a good one --> lips) and she may find a way through this labyrinth. She is about to take a position, which isn't occupied so far by another Russian artist. If I'm not misled her concept should be similar to the Ukrainian singer Svetlana Loboda (you may know her from the ESC 2009), and if she gets MUCH professional help, she could grow into it.

Lena on the other hand does what hundreds of Russian singers do. Standing there, singing ballads, everything random and not really touching or intoxicating. Yeah, nice, thank you. Some may say now, it's her nature, but Michael Jackson was shy and polite and reclusive too. This is what the main problem of the Katina project is - lack of an active image of her, something which makes all people interested, not just a handful of overly romantic teenage girls. The singing skills are not soo important, in Russia most of the shows are playback anyway and it's more important for pop stars to sell dreams than great musical achievements. That she concentrates on the English language doesn't help her much, most Russians don't understand it at all, and lyrics are far more important in Russian pop than in western. A band on the other end of the world isn't exactly a good solution too. So I see many handicaps, which I can't see to be resolved, if everything remains like this.

thelastblossom

24-07-2010, 11:17

but is it that important to reach succes? maybe lena just wants to do music she likes and grow as an artist whether she will gain a lot of succes or not. maybe she is already happy with a handfull of fans? if thats her interest than what is the problem? I dont think anybody here believes that Lena is getting international succes

Argos

24-07-2010, 11:39

^There is absolutely no problem with that, on a first look. But we have to accept that this can only go so long, as Renskij wants to support her. His investments will always be more than they can get back. If he loses interest, or if he dies (unfortunately he is considerably older than Lena), Lena will be left alone. She has no other profession, but has to begin with something else then (and probably something she doesn't like). It's always better if your artistical career can feed you well, just my view.

Argos

26-07-2010, 16:05

I mean. What's the problem in singing "Not Gonna Get Us"?
Not really. To repeat the discussion of tatu.ru ont that topic: Lena was the one who most of all rejected the old tatu image, but had no problem singing all the hit songs of the first album (five of them). Furthermore the tatu songs, she chose, are not just any songs, nor are they songs which suit to her new project, no, they are the best of all tatu songs. She sings twice as much tatu songs than her own new ones. This all gives the image that she just exploits tatu's creative work for her own project, which hasn't much to offer.

On the other hand in the USA were many tatu fans, who never heard tatu live in concert and so could hear the best of tatu at least with one participant. Furthermore the versions of Craving, Cosmos and Fly On The Wall (and to some extent Running Blind too) were really an enrichment. I think the point is here - a better choice of the tatu songs, which connect more to the Katina project and not to give the impression that the new songs are just alibi and the real intention is to keep the tatu products alive as long as possible (until Yulya returns or nobody is interested anymore).

Is she planning to perform only her songs on her shows (if there are any)...?! C'mon.
She has no choice. She doesn't have copyrights, Renskij has. Therefore she would have to pay him for performance rights. This is certainly not an option for Yulya.

MalchikGeiBrand

26-07-2010, 16:58

I know there's some people who talk about how Lena doesn't sing the old Tatu hits as well as Yulia did... But Yulia recorded those hits almost a decade ago and she barely sang them live. The famous, early Tatu songs are very high range and I'm surprised even Lena can sing them. Even if Yulia wanted to (which she's made it clear she doesn't) I don't think Yulia would be able to perform the Tatu hits, since in her recent Tatu performances, when she'd sing the "hits", she would sing an octave lower or let Lena sing it, due to her voice change.
But then again, we don't really know if Yulia's regained her capabilities.

I can also understand the displeasure with Lena performing the Tatu songs, but I originally didn't think it was that much of a problem. I thought, "well, why not perform them?" Part of the reason her project performs it is likely fan service, like Argos mentioned. I can see people thinking she's riding off of her previous Tatu days for attention, though I also don't see it as a huge deal.

Edgar

26-07-2010, 22:10

I don't think Yulia would be able to perform the Tatu hits, since in her recent Tatu performances, when she'd sing the "hits", she would sing an octave lower or let Lena sing it, due to her voice change.

But I really don't enjoy the voice of Lena on Not gonna get us and I don't think that she got to sing so well. The fact was that Even song doesn't sound good, I really think that was too lame. I think the same thing about Yulia perform the t.A.T.u. hits. But I don't think that Lena would be able to perform Not gonna get us either. :bum: (I really tried to listen Not gonna get us (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1h-QwpbIYg) again)

But then again, we don't really know if Yulia's regained her capabilities. You're right, Who Knows? I remember that I've listened a voice more healthy of Yulia during last performance

fanoff

27-07-2010, 10:55

I'd love to hear OBezyanka Nol from ony Yulia.

mulder

27-07-2010, 20:06

She has no choice. She doesn't have copyrights, Renskij has. Therefore she would have to pay him for performance rights. This is certainly not an option for Yulya.

This goes some way towards explaining the recent petulant outburst by Yulia. Sort of "If I can't do them, nobody can".

For Lena, though, it makes perfect sense for her to do Tatu songs. Like anyone else who has left a band to go solo, she wants to take some of the old songs with her, to let people know who she is and to help make a decent length set list. Most artists striking out on their own won't have enough of their own songs to begin with, so either have to use songs from their old band, or do covers.

So why not wait until they have enough of their own songs? Because it would mean a long wait before Lena and band could get an album out and get on the road. This might be fine for Yulia, who has turned "keeping the fans waiting" into an art form, but Lena, Renski and the band obviously want to keep the momentum going. Despite what some people have said, they have written and recorded several new songs quite quickly and have started live performances as soon as they had enough songs.

Of course the thing with the Tatu songs, is that Lena is performing some songs that Tatu never did live, so I don't see the problem with that. Mind you, I can see Yulia's annoyance at Lena doing Running Blind, as that was practically a Yulia solo song on the album. In fact I think the only songs Lena does, that were performed by Tatu, are NGGU and ATTSS, and since they are the "big hits" that everyone knows, it would be stupid not to do them.

I have to admit that I find the Tatu fans' attitude of "they can only be performed by both the girls together" ludicrous. Ozzy does old Sabbath songs, Sting does old Police songs, Robert Plant does old Zep songs, Paul Rodgers does old Free songs, Slash does old G'N'R songs. Why should Tatu be any different?

podnebesnya

28-07-2010, 07:48

http://photo.lena-music.org/displayimage.php?pid=217&fullsize=1

Talyubittu

28-07-2010, 08:55

This goes some way towards explaining the recent petulant outburst by Yulia. Sort of "If I can't do them, nobody can".

For Lena, though, it makes perfect sense for her to do Tatu songs. Like anyone else who has left a band to go solo, she wants to take some of the old songs with her, to let people know who she is and to help make a decent length set list. Most artists striking out on their own won't have enough of their own songs to begin with, so either have to use songs from their old band, or do covers.

So why not wait until they have enough of their own songs? Because it would mean a long wait before Lena and band could get an album out and get on the road. This might be fine for Yulia, who has turned "keeping the fans waiting" into an art form, but Lena, Renski and the band obviously want to keep the momentum going. Despite what some people have said, they have written and recorded several new songs quite quickly and have started live performances as soon as they had enough songs.

Of course the thing with the Tatu songs, is that Lena is performing some songs that Tatu never did live, so I don't see the problem with that. Mind you, I can see Yulia's annoyance at Lena doing Running Blind, as that was practically a Yulia solo song on the album. In fact I think the only songs Lena does, that were performed by Tatu, are NGGU and ATTSS, and since they are the "big hits" that everyone knows, it would be stupid not to do them.

I have to admit that I find the Tatu fans' attitude of "they can only be performed by both the girls together" ludicrous. Ozzy does old Sabbath songs, Sting does old Police songs, Robert Plant does old Zep songs, Paul Rodgers does old Free songs, Slash does old G'N'R songs. Why should Tatu be any different?

Dot dot dot. No. - The entire point is that Lena is not t.A.T.u., if she wants people to know who she is - the woman needs to get her ass out to more than one gig a month and actually perform quality songs that will get her recognized. In the amount of time they have had, good songs and a lack of them should not be a problem. They should be plenty of music to establish a full on show. And correction - it is Renski that has for the past four years been the entire problem with things being produced and released on time, Yulia plays no part in that aspect of t.A.T.u. | In addition, I don't know where you've come up with "Running Blind" being an almost exclusive Yulia track, considering Lena sang the verses throughout the entire thing. 220, now that's a different story. The fact that NGGU and ATTSS are big hits is exactly why it's stupid to perform them. She's not establishing her own sound, she's establishing herself as a piece of washed up early 2000's pop music. Newsflash: Nobody cares. - And t.A.T.u. is different because all of the bands and artists you've listed below have produced multiple albums of decent or better quality that brings in fans by themselves, the older music is just a treat. In Lena's case it's the entire main course.

RowerB

28-07-2010, 15:23

"Running Blind"
I think we can all agree that Yulia is outstanding in Running Blind and Lena’s bits are no more than tedious preludes to the good stuff.

Argos

28-07-2010, 17:21

The entire point is that Lena is not t.A.T.u....
the woman needs to get her ass out to more than one gig a month...
actually perform quality songs...
In the amount of time they have had, good songs and a lack of them should not be a problem.
Renski ... been the entire problem with things being produced and released on time
The fact that NGGU and ATTSS are big hits is exactly why it's stupid to perform them.
She's not establishing her own sound
she's establishing herself as a piece of washed up early 2000's pop music
Newsflash: Nobody cares.
...artists you've listed below have produced multiple albums of decent or better quality that brings in fans by themselves
In Lena's case it's the entire main course.
Summary ---> wow, point after point :yes:

Just to add: I wouldn't mind if Lena sang some tatu songs, but doing the "best of tatu" from three albums, 2/3 of the performance, and here and there a few new ones, which sound older than the demo tapes of the first album, and not at least as creative as the worst product written for tatu, makes the whole project pathetic. Change is urgently needed. This is a barrel burst.

sakuya

30-07-2010, 10:12

copy paste from russiian side. New video :confused:
(pls translate)

Немного слухов:
28 июля начинаются съемки дебютного клипа проекта экс-солистки дуэта t.A.T.u. - "Lena Katina" на трек "HoldHate"!
Более года прошло с момента начала записи альбома Лены и вот, наконец, она решила порадовать публику долгожданным релизом.
Съемки пройдут в три дня в Лос-Анджелесе. Скорее всего, релиз видео будет приурочен к сольному концерту Лены в Сан-Франциско 17 сентября.
Также, почти готов материал для дебютного альбома проекта "Lena Katina". Он будет состоять из 14 треков, несколько из них Лена исполнила на своих выступлениях. Выход альбома "Marvellous Rustle" ожидается в конце этого года.
Как сообщает Intermedia, со ссылкой на пресс-атташе группы Евгению Воеводину, в конце лета начнется международная пиар-кампания проекта.
Нам остается только ждать "Изумительного Шелеста" и изумительных песен от бывшей солистки всемирно известного дуэта t.A.T.u.
Источниик (http://www.intermedia.ru/index.php3?action=view&id=109686&gid=56)

Troys tweets:
_Christina_M_: You guys are doing a music video this week, or is it just a rumor?

TroyMaccubbin: Mmmmmmmm maybe

podnebesnya

30-07-2010, 17:26

So...
-28th July- the shooting for her first video begins for the track "HoldHate"
-Shooting will take place in L.A. over 3 days
-The release of the video is scheduled during a concert on September 17th
-All the material is almost ready for the release
-There will be 14 tracks- her band members performed in some songs (idk if they mean play instruments or sing)
-The album is called "Marvelous Rustle"
-At the end of the summer an international PR campaign will begin for Lena according to Zhenya

fanoff

31-07-2010, 12:00

The name HoldHate is not so promising to me. It's probably something like IRS, probably a little better.

mulder

01-08-2010, 15:47

Originally Posted by Talyubittu
The entire point is that Lena is not t.A.T.u....

I never said she was, nor did any one else.

the woman needs to get her ass out to more than one gig a month...

She can do as many or as few gigs as she wants to. What you want is irrelevant.

actually perform quality songs...

She does. They are good pop/rock songs, and while they may not set the world on fire, I think a lot of people will like them.

In the amount of time they have had, good songs and a lack of them should not be a problem.

Writing songs is easy, writing good songs is more difficult. The end result has got to be something people will want to listen to over time.

Renski ... been the entire problem with things being produced and released on time

I don't know the internal workings of Lena's management, so I can't comment. However things seem to be moving along quickly enough, as far as I can see.

The fact that NGGU and ATTSS are big hits is exactly why it's stupid to perform them.

No, the fact that they are the big hits is exactly why Lena should perform them. I hope you never go into band management, as you don't seem to have grasped the way things are done. Remember the idea is to make money, and therefore you compromise - do what you want to do, and what the fans want to hear/see.

She's not establishing her own sound

Oh for goodness sake :rolleyes: that's exactly what she is doing.

she's establishing herself as a piece of washed up early 2000's pop music

Rubbish.

Newsflash: Nobody cares.

No, you don't care, which is why I wonder why you are still here.

In Lena's case, she only has one album, and that hasn't even been released yet. What do you expect her to do - oh that's right, do a concert comprising of new songs nobody's heard yet. Yes, that's going to be successful :rolleyes:

Just to add: I wouldn't mind if Lena sang some tatu songs, but doing the "best of tatu" from three albums, 2/3 of the performance, and here and there a few new ones, which sound older than the demo tapes of the first album, and not at least as creative as the worst product written for tatu, makes the whole project pathetic. Change is urgently needed. This is a barrel burst.

OK, let's look at her set list for The Troubadour:

Running Blind - Tatu - Never performed live before
Fly on the Wall - Tatu - Never performed live before
ATTSS - Tatu
World - New
Craving - Tatu - Never performed live before
Cosmos - Tatu
HSIN - Smith's Cover
IRS - New
Just A Day - New
Lost In Love - New
Show Me Love - Tatu
So Not Cool - New
Stay - New
30 Minutes - Tatu
NGGU - Tatu

Tatu - 8 - 3 of which Tatu never performed
New - 6
Cover - 1

I think that's reasonable for someone starting out as a solo performer, after the previous band imploded.

I don't really want to get into tedious arguments about this, it's just that I think everyone should give Lena a chance to establish herself before condemning her as useless, when she hasn't even released her first solo album.

Yves

01-08-2010, 18:04

Totally agree with everything mulder said. Nothing to add.

regigigas1505

02-08-2010, 02:11

^ Me too.

Edgar

02-08-2010, 03:28

It's a pity, I really love most all your comments, Mulder
I never said she was, nor did any one else.
Yeah, You're right, You never said that. But Sometimes seems that Somepeople thinks so.

She can do as many or as few gigs as she wants to. What you want is irrelevant. Of course, She can do as many gigs as she want to (rather they want to) But it's not correct to this new project. Why? Beacuse they just be to using image of t.A.T.u. and not Lena K. project.

She does. They are good pop/rock songs, and while they may not set the world on fire, I think a lot of people will like them.
Maybe you want to say They are good pop songs but I don't see any good song there, I mean what is a good song? I would say that A good song is a work of art or a hit. (Though that Pop's world it should be more a hit). Maybe we got to have a different point of view.

Writing songs is easy, writing good songs is more difficult. The end result has got to be something people will want to listen to over time. Yeah wiriting good songs is more difficult. it seems that it's too hard to do for them.

I don't know the internal workings of Lena's management, so I can't comment. However things seem to be moving along quickly enough, as far as I can see.

Moving along quickly?. I don't think so, I still remember when they just finished the third album for the project t.A.T.u. We do not get it until much later. It seems that it is too difficult for them to release a album. Creating music has never been problem for them. They used to get it from other artists. So I wouldn't say that Things seem to be moving along quickly, Right now it's too wrong to say that.

No, the fact that they are the big hits is exactly why Lena should perform them. I hope you never go into band management, as you don't seem to have grasped the way things are done. Remember the idea is to make money, and therefore you compromise - do what you want to do, and what the fans want to hear/see.
It's a new thing to me, Lena is playing to be t.A.T.u. then she shouldn't make a new project. Because if fans want to hear just t.A.T.u. then her solo project is done.

Oh for goodness sake :rolleyes: that's exactly what she is doing.
Wrong if You would see it from my view, that's exactly what they are doing. (Renski, Staff of t.A.T.u., maybe the band except lena)

In Lena's case, she only has one album, and that hasn't even been released yet. What do you expect her to do - oh that's right, do a concert comprising of new songs nobody's heard yet. Yes, that's going to be successful :rolleyes:
No more concerts? They should be making a new video, new promotion and They really need to finish their album. Then they would make better concerts with the music from this new project.

OK, let's look at her set list for The Troubadour:

Running Blind - Tatu - Never performed live before
Fly on the Wall - Tatu - Never performed live before
ATTSS - Tatu
World - New
Craving - Tatu - Never performed live before
Cosmos - Tatu
HSIN - Smith's Cover
IRS - New
Just A Day - New
Lost In Love - New
Show Me Love - Tatu
So Not Cool - New
Stay - New
30 Minutes - Tatu
NGGU - Tatu

Tatu - 8 - 3 of which Tatu never performed
New - 6
Cover - 1

Anyway this is music from t.A.T.u. project even if there's not a live performe of them. Not Lena Project. So you think that's reasonable have more music from other projects that their music? No Mulder that's no reasonable. You can have music from other projects on your concerts but that should be a extra thing.

I don't really want to get into tedious arguments about this, it's just that I think everyone should give Lena a chance to establish herself before condemning her as useless, when she hasn't even released her first solo album.

Anyone really can give Lena a chance if they really think that she is making good things but example I don't see good things on this project. But I won't close my mind about that. If they start to make new things and that're good things, I will give her a chance.

Argos

02-08-2010, 13:08

She can do as many or as few gigs as she wants to. What you want is irrelevant.
The result is not irrelevant. A stuttering project may not work anywhere. Matter of opinion of course!(until time tells...)
Writing songs is easy, writing good songs is more difficult.
If a team is talented they can write a good song in a reasonable amount of time. That's the very purpose of a music project. Well, you can prove me wrong anytime. For at least two years the team knows that tatu is over and that they have to create something for the Katina project. Time enough for two or three songs with hit potential. My hope is still that they didn't reveal their best ones, but honestly, I don't see a reason for that.
I hope you never go into band management, as you don't seem to have grasped the way things are done. Remember the idea is to make money...
Thanks for the advice! I'll try to keep away. Anyway, in full approval of your profound knowledge of the music business I dare to bet that this will soon bring your project to the end of the line. I can't remember a manager trying to make money with his project before he has a solid package, with a clear profile, some good songs and a well developed unique sound. You can tell me that you can build a house from the roof down to the basement, but I won't believe until I have seen it.

About the tatu songs in her concerts: There is (in principle) nothing to say against Lena using them in her concert. The tricky point is the choice and the amount. She can use any of the third album, it's practically not released outside Russia and therefore can even be treated as if the songs were written for Lena. To some degree the same goes for the second album, if she leaves the hit song(s) alone. Hardly anybody outside the tatu community will recognize that it's not genuinely Katina. The songs of the first album ARE known and exactly that can cause trouble. The tatu songs she performs are all considerably "better" than her own new songs (you may of course see the quality of the new songs different, but that's my own impression, and not only mine), even the best ones simply can't compete, they go under. Professional people, who know the origin of the songs, will immediately recognize this and come to the conclusion that the entire project is based on tatu's creative work alone, and you won't get support from them, which is the last thing you want to achieve (seen from the viewpoint of an incompetent never will be band manager).

Seeing that the gigs had much to do with tatu fan service, I would nevertheless choose less songs from the tatu past and at least partly avoid the top hits because of too much competition for my own new songs. I think somewhat smaller gigs or some covers of other artists' work are no bad alternatives.
I don't really want to get into tedious arguments about this, it's just that I think everyone should give Lena a chance to establish herself before condemning her as useless, when she hasn't even released her first solo album.
We have to see Katina different from a typical band in it's embryo stage. A local group soon has it's 200 fans going to their concerts and giving their support, they have local media behind them and they can mostly get some friend of the local music business. Good chances for development. Even with some big mistakes they can build their project over time and at some time may become successful.

With a foreign project, where the main figure doesn't live at the point, where they start and develop the business, it's different. The option of slowly developing the project is way too expensive and your time in the foreign country is limited. I see no other way than have the right package complete and launch with a good amount of noise. Veni - vidi - vici, if everything goes well. Not knowing the huge American scene I can't remember an artist working outside the USA, English being not his first language, and working slowly to the top or at least to some point of common recognition. I can't imagine this can ever work outside your home country.

My biggest concern is the image. I will never understand why they dropped the idea from the beginning, this unusual style from the start of her own website, I guess everybody loved it. It's something different and it feeds your imagination. You can develop (almost) anything on top of that, you are not limited as it was with the tatu image. But we got Lena clothed as boring as possible, with blue gloves (oh my God, what a great idea - making strange hand moves with blue gloves - a genius who made this up!). Of course there are some acts who can live with the image of the girl next door, but unfortunately next door is more than 10.000 miles away, and therefore not a credible image.

Add to this weak image and style a girl with anything but a firm voice, no self-assuredness nor individuality in appearance, no new song with hit potential, a sound which doesn't stand out (so that people immediately identify and see apart from other groups), no message (in songs, appearances, media releases, interviews etc...) whatsoever, the highlights being the oldest hits from the former group, nothing what defines a clear and assertive Lena Katina profile, which can be sold, and you are satisfied with the development over two years of working on the project? In my old-fashioned dilettante view of showbiz I don't see a pivot for an international career with prospect, not without considerable changes.

I want to see a successful Lena Katina (at least to a reasonable degree) and not a project which stumbles from fiasco to fiasco, as the tatu project did since 2007. It's no fun to see a project you follow with interest and sympathy either be ignored or ridiculed everytime someone writes an article.

Talyubittu

02-08-2010, 16:31

And, Argos, I hope I'm wrong, then. I hope I'm wrong about others, too, like little_polar_bear. It seems like Lena's doomed just because Renski with her. Because all you do is critisize Lena - not wisely, but spitefully.

The entire point is that Lena is not t.A.T.u....
the woman needs to get her ass out to more than one gig a month...
actually perform quality songs...
In the amount of time they have had, good songs and a lack of them should not be a problem.
Renski ... been the entire problem with things being produced and released on time
The fact that NGGU and ATTSS are big hits is exactly why it's stupid to perform them.
She's not establishing her own sound
she's establishing herself as a piece of washed up early 2000's pop music
Newsflash: Nobody cares.
...artists you've listed below have produced multiple albums of decent or better quality that brings in fans by themselves
In Lena's case it's the entire main course.

That's not spite. - The fact that she has only DONE two performances first off, is a major flaw. Second - t.A.T.u. music, at least, well known t.A.T.u. music - should not be a part of the Lena Katina project.

Talyubittu

02-08-2010, 16:57

She can do as many or as few gigs as she wants to. What you want is irrelevant.

Correction. What you believe is irrelevant. You do not establish a brand or a name by doing the least number of shows possible - something t.A.T.u. and anyone involved with Renski is known for. Whether you believe this or not, it is truth.

She does. They are good pop/rock songs, and while they may not set the world on fire, I think a lot of people will like them.

A lot of people like Craving, Gomenasai, Snegopady and many other t.A.T.u. songs. But, they're only known for All The Things She Said or possibly Not Gonna Get us. The songs that set the world on fire.

Writing songs is easy, writing good songs is more difficult. The end result has got to be something people will want to listen to over time.

Exactly? - Don't write music if you don't write good music. End of the story.

I don't know the internal workings of Lena's management, so I can't comment. However things seem to be moving along quickly enough, as far as I can see.

Two shows. Possible album release. - A decent progress for the album maybe, but for Lena's brand. No way. She doesn't even have a following past 200 loyal fans that would purchase her album.

No, the fact that they are the big hits is exactly why Lena should perform them. I hope you never go into band management, as you don't seem to have grasped the way things are done. Remember the idea is to make money, and therefore you compromise - do what you want to do, and what the fans want to hear/see.

Aha! The fact that you, who is blatantly ignoring every important aspect of band management, have the audacity to tell me how to properly do it is probably the most amusing thing on the interwebz to date. | The idea for Renski is to make money - while appearing overly creative of course. As a newcomer trying to establish her own sound, Lena should not be performing any t.A.T.u. music - especially the hits. t.A.T.u. is not Lena Katina, that is the sole purpose of why she is now a solo artist. So please inform me why t.A.T.u. discography is still a part of her setlist? This is the Lena Katina Solo Project, not the Lena Katina Cover Band. - And I'm sorry, but you're an idiot if you think she has any fans outside the t.A.T.u. network. Nobody even knows who she is other than the random people that still remember her name from Milwaukee's Pridefest. It's not like there are millions of people eagerly awaiting Lena Katina's new record. If Renski and Lena's goal is to please current fans, they can kiss new ones outside of the t.A.T.u. spectrum goodbye - because they will never increase their fan base like this.

Oh for goodness sake :rolleyes: that's exactly what she is doing.

No, it is not. She has some of her own material yes. But it is only being recognized because she is flaunting herself as a former part of t.A.T.u. - You cannot work both ends of the street. You cannot establish your own sound while retaining your image as a former t.A.T.u. member.

Rubbish.

All The Things She Said - Released: August 18, 2002
Not Gonna Get Us - Released: May 5, 2003

Sounds like early 2000's pop music to me. The facts do not lie.

No, you don't care, which is why I wonder why you are still here.

I am hear to preach truth to people that would otherwise be swept away in this wave of bullshit you're torching out faster than even the Republic party is capable of doing.

In Lena's case, she only has one album, and that hasn't even been released yet. What do you expect her to do - oh that's right, do a concert comprising of new songs nobody's heard yet. Yes, that's going to be successful :rolleyes:

Case and point - you have no idea what you are talking about. The reason an artist puts on more than one show a month is because they are promoting their music. In Lena's case, it would be prudent to play good music in clubs around L.A. and other cities in order to circulate her brand and her new music. While many people may not know her live music at first, it's safe to say that even fewer people will actually purchase the album containing this music if they do not know it in the first place. And in case you didn't notice, t.A.T.u. was a bit of a failure for the most part - why do the exact same thing with the exception of Yulia being absent. Sounds like a bad idea to me.

OK, let's look at her set list for The Troubadour:

Running Blind - Tatu - Never performed live before
Fly on the Wall - Tatu - Never performed live before
ATTSS - Tatu
World - New
Craving - Tatu - Never performed live before
Cosmos - Tatu
HSIN - Smith's Cover
IRS - New
Just A Day - New
Lost In Love - New
Show Me Love - Tatu
So Not Cool - New
Stay - New
30 Minutes - Tatu
NGGU - Tatu

Tatu - 8 - 3 of which Tatu never performed
New - 6
Cover - 1

I think that's reasonable for someone starting out as a solo performer, after the previous band imploded.

This is the part of the discussion where I honestly do not know why I'm even bothering to reply to your nonsense. Look at what is bold up above. All of that is t.A.T.u. music, whether it was performed live or not, it is not Lena Katina. And out of those 9 songs, six of them were songs that were performed by t.A.T.u. - that is an issue. I do not count HSIN as a cover because it was in fact recorded and released on their album. It is a t.A.T.u. song when Lena Katina performs it. I doubt she could even tell you who the original artist is.

I don't really want to get into tedious arguments about this, it's just that I think everyone should give Lena a chance to establish herself before condemning her as useless, when she hasn't even released her first solo album.

Then don't spew your rubbish as anything other than rubbish. There is no reason this project should be operating the way it currently is. I think Lena should actually give herself a chance as Lena and not a former part of t.A.T.u. - maybe then people wouldn't condemn her as "useless".

sakuya

02-08-2010, 17:34

That's not spite. - The fact that she has only DONE two performances first off, is a major flaw. Second - t.A.T.u. music, at least, well known t.A.T.u. music - should not be a part of the Lena Katina project.

Why? Many solo artist perform old band stuff later. Why Lena cant?

Talyubittu

02-08-2010, 17:38

Why? Many solo artist perform old band stuff later. Why Lena cant?

Because. You're missing the entire point that Lena should be establishing herself as Lena Katina. Nobody is saying she should completely abandon all t.A.T.u. material. But eight songs of t.A.T.u. in her entire setlist? Seriously? No former band member does that injustice to their former band.

regigigas1505

02-08-2010, 20:16

And What? it was her decision to be with him then that's her fault. But I really think that Nobody here does is critisize Lena by that. Even I should say that We do is critisize her by her own limitations (aleast me)

What I said was: they critisize because of that. I never mentiones Lena was with him because she was forced to -- it doesn't really matter to me.

That's not spite. - The fact that she has only DONE two performances first off, is a major flaw. Second - t.A.T.u. music, at least, well known t.A.T.u. music - should not be a part of the Lena Katina project.

It's spite because Lena's the silly, untalented one; she's repetitive and seems like rooted on stage, she's got nothing going for her, she's ought to thank Yulia for talking sh*t about her, bla bla bla.

That's not related to her live performances.

I don't know what you mean exactly. Aileen and I explained with many arguments and without personal insults toward Lena, what we think about the Katina project and how they handle certain critical points without being mean. If I remember correctly, lately I was even more 'spiteful' towards Yulya than her.

Arguments? You're both baised on opinions. Facts are different from guesses, you know that. Don't try to sell your takes on these girls lives as truth.

Without being mean?

Let's see...

Uhm, can't say that she had to. She gets noticed anyway and everybody talks about her, even without lips, parties and other dramas. Lets make a resumé:

Lena is working hard and lets every fan know it, has an own webpage, she does diary entries, video blogs, lets musicians tweet, releases a song on the webpage, has two full concerts, six new songs, announces the release time of the debut album, the shooting of a video...and nobody in Russia takes notice.

Yulya on the other hand has nothing like that to offer. She drops her lover and everybody knows, comes home with a glass of herbals, and everybody knows, her new friend kisses her on the belly-button and everybody knows, and finally she mocks at her former partner, and people notice for the first time that Lena is doing something. Actually Lena should thank her for doing promotion for the Katina project! :laugh:

And, also: http://forum.tatysite.net/showpost.php?p=393623&postcount=936

It's all here. You're sarcastic towards the whole situation... Which can only be powered by your spite towards Katina.

That's of course not spiteful, but wisely critisizing Yulya. May it be that you are a bit biased, even a little bit blind on one eye?

Ah, come one. I was shocked by the selfdestruction of Yulia AND her suddenly coward and traitor behavior. I reacted like that, but I don't hate Yulia and only wish her the best.

And thanks for the compliments. ;)